Re: Magnesium and cancer incidence

[Guest guest]

> In the USA, too much calcium is the enemy of getting a proper balance of

Ca/Mg.

>

> Epsom salts in low dosages titrated (increasing in small steps) to achieve

easy but not loose stools is the cheapest way to get magnesium in our diets.

Drug stores have it. Of course other sources are OK too, maybe more

convenient but more expensive..

>

> Most cancer patients are constipated and lack magnesium. If you have

kidney failure, don't take magnesium. Passing kidney stones is a sure sign

of low magnesium as is most high blood pressure and heart attacks. Muscle

soreness and low energy, tension, panic attacks, anxiety, and depression may

have low magnesium as a contributing factor.

>

> http://www.mgwater.com/rod02.shtml is about the very low cancer rates of

native Egyptians and the high amount of magnesium in their native diets.

>

I agree that the very well documented magnesium deficiency is practically

epidemic. I submit that transdermal absorption is even more effective. This

was documented by Dr. Shealy for energetically treated Twilight products.

Adding their Bath Crystals to your foot bath or regular bath is the most

effective magnesium supplementation known, as the study results would

suggest. See www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

I take a mag supp of 400 mgs (mag oxide/gluconate) - I used to take 2

tabs for a total of 800 mgs - I am wondering if I should go back. I take

coral calcium too and/or calcium citrate/w/vit. D. Any help appreciated.

paul

On Fri, 7 May 2004 08:33:31 -0600 " Pytela "

<martinp@...> writes:

> > In the USA, too much calcium is the enemy of getting a proper

> balance of

> Ca/Mg.

> >

> > Epsom salts in low dosages titrated (increasing in small steps) to

> achieve

> easy but not loose stools is the cheapest way to get magnesium in

> our diets.

> Drug stores have it. Of course other sources are OK too, maybe more

> convenient but more expensive..

> >

> > Most cancer patients are constipated and lack magnesium. If you

> have

> kidney failure, don't take magnesium. Passing kidney stones is a

> sure sign

> of low magnesium as is most high blood pressure and heart attacks.

> Muscle

> soreness and low energy, tension, panic attacks, anxiety, and

> depression may

> have low magnesium as a contributing factor.

> >

> > http://www.mgwater.com/rod02.shtml is about the very low cancer

> rates of

> native Egyptians and the high amount of magnesium in their native

> diets.

> >

> I agree that the very well documented magnesium deficiency is

> practically

> epidemic. I submit that transdermal absorption is even more

> effective. This

> was documented by Dr. Shealy for energetically treated Twilight

> products.

> Adding their Bath Crystals to your foot bath or regular bath is the

> most

> effective magnesium supplementation known, as the study results

> would

> suggest. See www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The literature states you need about 2/3 the Mg as Ca. However, it depends

on how much Ca you're getting. I think taking Mg until stools are easy is

the best way. Don't take it all in one dose. It is better absorbed on an

empty stomach or with a low-fat meal. Fat really hinders absorption. Some

B-6 helps utilization.

In most people it lowers high blood pressure, anxiety and muscular pain.

I used to hurt so bad with muscle pain I had to roll out of bed slowly.

That was probably 15 years ago. Magnesium took care of it in 3 or 4 days.

Never had any back pain since. I can lift big tree rounds and split them up,

and never have any pain next day. And I'm 77.

Loren

Re: [ ] Magnesium and cancer incidence

>

>

> Hi All,

>

> I take a mag supp of 400 mgs (mag oxide/gluconate) - I used to take 2

> tabs for a total of 800 mgs - I am wondering if I should go back. I take

> coral calcium too and/or calcium citrate/w/vit. D. Any help appreciated.

>

> paul

>

>

>

>

>

> On Fri, 7 May 2004 08:33:31 -0600 " Pytela "

> <martinp@...> writes:

> > > In the USA, too much calcium is the enemy of getting a proper

> > balance of

> > Ca/Mg.

> > >

> > > Epsom salts in low dosages titrated (increasing in small steps) to

> > achieve

> > easy but not loose stools is the cheapest way to get magnesium in

> > our diets.

> > Drug stores have it. Of course other sources are OK too, maybe more

> > convenient but more expensive..

> > >

> > > Most cancer patients are constipated and lack magnesium. If you

> > have

> > kidney failure, don't take magnesium. Passing kidney stones is a

> > sure sign

> > of low magnesium as is most high blood pressure and heart attacks.

> > Muscle

> > soreness and low energy, tension, panic attacks, anxiety, and

> > depression may

> > have low magnesium as a contributing factor.

> > >

> > > http://www.mgwater.com/rod02.shtml is about the very low cancer

> > rates of

> > native Egyptians and the high amount of magnesium in their native

> > diets.

> > >

> > I agree that the very well documented magnesium deficiency is

> > practically

> > epidemic. I submit that transdermal absorption is even more

> > effective. This

> > was documented by Dr. Shealy for energetically treated Twilight

> > products.

> > Adding their Bath Crystals to your foot bath or regular bath is the

> > most

> > effective magnesium supplementation known, as the study results

> > would

> > suggest. See www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

" Epsom salts in low dosages titrated (increasing in small steps) to

achieve easy but not loose stools is the cheapest way to get

magnesium in our diets. "

Loren, what Initial doseage would you suggest, and at what ratio of

epsom salt to water?

--Marcy

[Guest guest]

I'm no authority. There is a recommended laxative dose on the package. I

would start with 1/5 or so of that in a glass of water (any size) and pay

attention to how you feel. Try that for a few days, then double it for a few

days unless stools are too loose, then back off and maintain. Like for life,

barring kidney problems which contraindicates taking magnesium..

When I do psychotherapy for depression I have people make a self evaluation

of how they feel. 0 is suicidal, 10 is as happy as you've ever been. Where

are you on that scale now, by your gut feeling. As I work with them for a

few minutes they go up on that scale. Most people function around a 7.

Do the same thing but for aches and pains, mood etc. and record it as a

number so you can see if you're making progress.

I have lost my dizziness on going upstairs quickly or getting up out of bed

quickly and some of my minor muscle pains I thot were normal for a man my

age seem to be lessening. Overall I feel pretty good. But, I also take DHEA

as well and that helps mood. Muscles are definitely less sore. I have no

arthritis, no cancer, some prostatic hypertrophy, and my blood pressure at

the drug store machine runs about 120/80. But I've upped my intake so we'll

see if it's dropped. I would like to get it down to 120/70.

Each person has to find out what works best for him. Pay attention to your

body and continue with your other vitamins and minerals. Excess calcium is

the problem. Whole grains will diminish your magnesium and other mineral

absorption.

Loren

[ ] Re: Magnesium and cancer incidence

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> " Epsom salts in low dosages titrated (increasing in small steps) to

> achieve easy but not loose stools is the cheapest way to get

> magnesium in our diets. "

>

> Loren, what Initial doseage would you suggest, and at what ratio of

> epsom salt to water?

>

> --Marcy

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