Guest guest Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 ======================================= Friday i go back on T-injections after 5 weeks from my last injection. Looking foreward to it, as i am starting to feel a bit run down and sleeping more. For some unknown reason, i have done very well off injections, the only thing that might be doing this is the HGH. No HCG for the last two weeks. A funny thing did happen a few days ago, i thought i might try to lower my E and see if that helped, big mistake, i felt like crap and even put on some of my wife's biest cream, that did help. I only took .5mg of Arimidex and some 200mg of indole-3-carbinol and 60mg of di-indolemethane which is in a anti-e pill called " Pro-Brassica " only took 1 a day for 2 days, by the 3rd day i felt real bad, hot flashes... wierd. Must be one of the lucky guy that does not have to worry about E yet. I do feel like my HPTA axis is getting back on line. I do think going through the PCT that BB's do might be good for secondary hypo men. ======================================= > It's week three off of testosterone injections. Here is my protocol: > > HGH 1-2 iu every am > HCG started off with 500 eod. Stopped a week ago. > Formestane (4-hydroxyandrostenedione acetate) .5 ml oral every 3 days > Selegiline 3 drops eod > Melatonin 3mg every pm > 5-HTP 100mg every pm > DHEA 50mg every 3 day > Pregnenolone 100mg every 3 days > Zinc with copper every 3 days > T4 100mcg ed > T3 6.25 mcg 2 x day > > The HCG caused too much bloat, dose must of been too high, will let it run out and try > much lower dose around 100iu eod. Possible in the future to not use HCG at all and just > use Formestane. > > The HGH is wonderfull. 90% of my joint/tissue pain gone. Started one week after last t- > injection. > > Formestane (4-hydroxyandrostenedione acetate) can be injected, a bit stronger injected. It > is a very strong anti-e. (estrogen is a main feedback signal to control the release of > testosterone) > > Added the T3 in the last week, adds amazing amount of nice clean energy. Will up the > dose next week to 25 mcg a day in 4 doses. > > I think that it is a good practice to cycle TRT for secondary hypogonadism as long as one > has a good protocol in place. So far so good, no question that my body is trying, but my > strength and get up and go is lower. Doing much better then i expected and much better > then my first cycle off TRT. > > I started TRT injections in Dec 2003 and this my 2nd cycle off of injections. I don't worry > about the number of weeks on, at least 10-12 is fine. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Hi , What are you using HGH for, to restore your HPTA or for anti aging purposes. Thanks!!! > > It's week three off of testosterone injections. Here is my protocol: > > > > HGH 1-2 iu every am > > HCG started off with 500 eod. Stopped a week ago. > > Formestane (4-hydroxyandrostenedione acetate) .5 ml oral every 3 > days > > Selegiline 3 drops eod > > Melatonin 3mg every pm > > 5-HTP 100mg every pm > > DHEA 50mg every 3 day > > Pregnenolone 100mg every 3 days > > Zinc with copper every 3 days > > T4 100mcg ed > > T3 6.25 mcg 2 x day > > > > The HCG caused too much bloat, dose must of been too high, will let > it run out and try > > much lower dose around 100iu eod. Possible in the future to not use > HCG at all and just > > use Formestane. > > > > The HGH is wonderfull. 90% of my joint/tissue pain gone. Started > one week after last t- > > injection. > > > > Formestane (4-hydroxyandrostenedione acetate) can be injected, a > bit stronger injected. > It > > is a very strong anti-e. (estrogen is a main feedback signal to > control the release of > > testosterone) > > > > Added the T3 in the last week, adds amazing amount of nice clean > energy. Will up the > > dose next week to 25 mcg a day in 4 doses. > > > > I think that it is a good practice to cycle TRT for secondary > hypogonadism as long as > one > > has a good protocol in place. So far so good, no question that my > body is trying, but my > > strength and get up and go is lower. Doing much better then i > expected and much > better > > then my first cycle off TRT. > > > > I started TRT injections in Dec 2003 and this my 2nd cycle off of > injections. I don't worry > > about the number of weeks on, at least 10-12 is fine. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 It is a RX from a anti-aging clinic for anti-aging. I am very impressed with what it has done for me. I ran it for 3 months at 1-2 iu a day, and ended with 6 iu a day for 5 days, then off for a few months. it took around 2 months for the effects to wear off, and so i started up once more 5 weeks a go. i do feel that it has to some degree restarted my HPTA axis, and i think it was from the larger dose of 6 iu for 5 days. But now i take 2 iu every other day and it seems to work great. It is neat to take it at night sometimes as it gives me fantasic dreams. After a few months i will try 10 iu a day for 5 days and then off of T-injections to see how well it works at the larger dose. > > > It's week three off of testosterone injections. Here is my > protocol: > > > > > > HGH 1-2 iu every am > > > HCG started off with 500 eod. Stopped a week ago. > > > Formestane (4-hydroxyandrostenedione acetate) .5 ml oral every 3 > > days > > > Selegiline 3 drops eod > > > Melatonin 3mg every pm > > > 5-HTP 100mg every pm > > > DHEA 50mg every 3 day > > > Pregnenolone 100mg every 3 days > > > Zinc with copper every 3 days > > > T4 100mcg ed > > > T3 6.25 mcg 2 x day > > > > > > The HCG caused too much bloat, dose must of been too high, will > let > > it run out and try > > > much lower dose around 100iu eod. Possible in the future to not > use > > HCG at all and just > > > use Formestane. > > > > > > The HGH is wonderfull. 90% of my joint/tissue pain gone. Started > > one week after last t- > > > injection. > > > > > > Formestane (4-hydroxyandrostenedione acetate) can be injected, a > > bit stronger injected. > > It > > > is a very strong anti-e. (estrogen is a main feedback signal to > > control the release of > > > testosterone) > > > > > > Added the T3 in the last week, adds amazing amount of nice clean > > energy. Will up the > > > dose next week to 25 mcg a day in 4 doses. > > > > > > I think that it is a good practice to cycle TRT for secondary > > hypogonadism as long as > > one > > > has a good protocol in place. So far so good, no question that my > > body is trying, but my > > > strength and get up and go is lower. Doing much better then i > > expected and much > > better > > > then my first cycle off TRT. > > > > > > I started TRT injections in Dec 2003 and this my 2nd cycle off of > > injections. I don't worry > > > about the number of weeks on, at least 10-12 is fine. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Hi , Becareful with higher dosages, I know it can cause an increase or decrease (I forget) in insulin if high dosages are used for long periods of time. Thanks, let me know if you get your HPTA restarted, that would interesting to know. Just curious, why do you think its restarted your HPTA, have the test indicated changes in LH and FSH levels. Thanks!!! > > > > It's week three off of testosterone injections. Here is my > > protocol: > > > > > > > > HGH 1-2 iu every am > > > > HCG started off with 500 eod. Stopped a week ago. > > > > Formestane (4-hydroxyandrostenedione acetate) .5 ml oral every 3 > > > days > > > > Selegiline 3 drops eod > > > > Melatonin 3mg every pm > > > > 5-HTP 100mg every pm > > > > DHEA 50mg every 3 day > > > > Pregnenolone 100mg every 3 days > > > > Zinc with copper every 3 days > > > > T4 100mcg ed > > > > T3 6.25 mcg 2 x day > > > > > > > > The HCG caused too much bloat, dose must of been too high, will > > let > > > it run out and try > > > > much lower dose around 100iu eod. Possible in the future to not > > use > > > HCG at all and just > > > > use Formestane. > > > > > > > > The HGH is wonderfull. 90% of my joint/tissue pain gone. Started > > > one week after last t- > > > > injection. > > > > > > > > Formestane (4-hydroxyandrostenedione acetate) can be injected, a > > > bit stronger injected. > > > It > > > > is a very strong anti-e. (estrogen is a main feedback signal to > > > control the release of > > > > testosterone) > > > > > > > > Added the T3 in the last week, adds amazing amount of nice clean > > > energy. Will up the > > > > dose next week to 25 mcg a day in 4 doses. > > > > > > > > I think that it is a good practice to cycle TRT for secondary > > > hypogonadism as long as > > > one > > > > has a good protocol in place. So far so good, no question that my > > > body is trying, but my > > > > strength and get up and go is lower. Doing much better then i > > > expected and much > > > better > > > > then my first cycle off TRT. > > > > > > > > I started TRT injections in Dec 2003 and this my 2nd cycle off of > > > injections. I don't worry > > > > about the number of weeks on, at least 10-12 is fine. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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