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Carolyn, just hang on. take it one day at a time. yes, there is the

possibility of damage but ignore the negative and only dwell on the positive.

If I ever get the use of my hands back or get my voice commands completely

instqalled, I will create docs in word that I can link you too. I paid

thousands of $$ to learn coping skills and relaxation skills. God put my

hand on that book full of stuff tonight but I am still very limited with my

typing. Car accident 2/2. I have had lyme since age 9 and I am now 59. I

was able to have some really good years. So, hang on! I would suggest this

very minute that you put your pride in your hip pocket and SIT ON IT! God

gave people abilities to create what He knew we would need one day.

Depression meds is one. There is NO WAY you can deal with this horrible

disease without some help. All the techniques in the world cannot replace

the need for a few little pills. Dont hurt yourself by refusing to seek

medical assistance with the guilt, pride, ALL signs of depression. Deal with

it NOW. Get help NOW. It will actually help the pain! I know what I am

talking about. Trust me on this one. Lovey Call me at anyhour if you need

to talk. 407-839-0200. I am listed at LymeNet.org under Support Groups in

Florida. I have no secrets.

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Hi Jennie, what clinic at UCSF would that be? The UCSF Chronic Fatigue

Clinic, started by Dr. and Dr. Jay Levy closed in late '96 due to

lack of funding.

<< Subject: Re: and UCSF

Hi -

Sorry to hear of your experience at UCSF. My brother

is an MD in Florida and keeps trying to get me to go

to their clinic, as apparently they are a well-known

diagnostic lab. I'm glad I didn't bother!

Hang in there - Jennie F. in SF

--- patrickmm4@... wrote:

> I did have a lumbar puncture in his office in

> February and my cerebrospinal

> fluid tested positive for HHV6. When I brought those

> results to a local

> infectious disease specialist at UCSF, he shook his

> head and said that it

> meant nothing because HHV6 is found in everyone and

> the connection with CFS

> is totally unproven. He would hear nonthing else

> about it.

> By the way dont anyone EVER go to the infectious

> disease department at UCSF

> in San Francisco expecting them to take your CFS, or

> your HHV6, or mycoplasma

> seriously. Believe me, they wont.

> >>

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> question asked...

> <Who all has been to Disneyland/world ?>........i have been to disneyland....2

times ...when i was 18 then about 1991. I've been to disney world 3 times.....2

times for holidays with my children...once with 74 kids for the day....this was

a dream wish flight for the sunshine foundation of canada...we took them for 1

long tiring memorable day...it was a blast!!

> Deb...lol...thanks for the tip..i have a 15 y.o. that swears like a trooper...

<My Mother didn't believe in spanking much (unless it was a really bad

offense), but she did use a tablespoon of cayenne pepper held in our mouths>...i

likely wont do it..but it would be a good threat..haha

> Helen....

> Subject: When I Whine- for those who beleive

> that was great...shows we should all just be grateful.....actually thats my

secret to being so happy..i know that so many things could always be worse!

Chelle...good to hear you got some rest!

Jessi....<<I can't wait for it to be just Nana and me again>.....enjoy you are

so lucky to have her ....cherish every memory....i went to a funeral a couple

days ago...a girl was so broken hearted ...she and her mother lived with her

grandma and she passed away this week...i sure felt badly for them...her grandma

was a wonderful lady!

Ling...lol...on the puter names!

ttfn sheena:)

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Dont do it Roy ,wait for protease inhibtor.tx almost killed me. go to

DR.ZHANG . COM chinese herbs or HCV PROTEASE .COM do your home work

before deciding tx. sides are horrible,Iam 1a also stage 2, 450.000

before treatment 3.9 million after 24 weeks ended up in hosp. pharm. co.

are pushing meds on doctors. remember this is a slow moveing virus ,

diet ,supplements and lots water Bigg rick@...

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Re:

Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 08:21:22 -0700 (PDT)

From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Test Results - help please! - Hypogonadism Digest

Number 1025

,

Thanks for the info.

RE: The Endo... Exactly my point right now. I'm really hoping that this

Endo that I've been referred to does know his stuff! Right now, the

first step that I would appreciate would simply to be getting a full

range of tests done. My test that uncovered all of this problem was

about 3 1/2 weeks ago and showed a 189 total T level. And my regular doc

wouldn't even consider running a follow-up test for free T, E2, DHT,

DHEA, etc. his eyes just started glassing over when I started talking

about those particulars. So I have no clue as to what those levels are!

Anyway, anyone familiar with the Endos listed with either The Hormone

Foundation (www.hormone.org) or the AACE - American Association of

Clinical Endocrinologists (http://www.aace.com/index.php)? The guy that

I was referred to comes up as listed ( " Find-A-Doc " ) on both of those

sites. But does that really indicate anything??? In lieu of that,

anyone familiar with an excellent Endo (excellent in this area of

expertise!) in the NE Ohio (Cleveland) area? Wouldn't mind having a

back-up if this current guy is clueless!

Thanks.

LRS

>Message: 15

> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 08:21:22 -0700 (PDT)

> From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

>Subject: Re: Re: Test Results - help please! - Hypogonadism Digest Number 1025

>

>Hi LRS the links you gave I use for info only. The links section here at the

home page is full of good info. I was on a compounded gel for T with DHEA in it

for a long time and it worked real good but this was before AndroGel and Testim

came out. Today I use Testim 10 grams / day and my levels are very good once I

got my E2 (Estrodiol) down. Your levels should be in the upper 1/3 of the labs

range for a 25 year old man as per this link.

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-130.shtml#too

>

>As for seeing an Endro I have been to a lot of them in the last 20 yrs. and

have yet to find a good one I would tell him about my problems and that I have

Low T. and that my thyroid is good form my last test. Anyway they would tell me

they want to check it again and my sugar These Endro's in MI. don't know squat

about Low T let alone treating it. So don't get your hopes up to high seeing

this Endro unless you asked him if he trusts a lot of men for Low T. It does

not matter what kind of Dr. you see for this as long as he knows what to Do.

Here is a cut and paste form Dr. just to give you an idea of a good Dr.

Phil

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LRS,

The sooner you find a knowledgeable doc the better. You need to find one

who regulary treats men for hypogonadism, regardless of " official " specialty.

Surprisingly, many endos are not even competent to order the correct tests.

You can screen them by asking questions before commiting to an

appointment. Do they regularly treat hypogonadism? Do they get good clinical

results? What tests do they regularly order? What do they think about estradiol

and male hormone therapy?

The following docs were found at: http://www.tuneupyourt.com

Presence on the list doesn't necessarily mean competence.

Best,

Bruce

-------------------------

Dr. Dunnan

5130 Bradenton Ave., Suite A

Bublin, OH 43017

614-734-1100

Dr. Schroer

4985 Cemetery Rd.

Hilliard, OH 43026

614-876-9558

Dr. Marivi Soto

Millennium Healthcare Assoc

4178 Maystar Way

Hilliard, OH 43026

614-777-8060

Dr. S. Chan

3484 Cincinnati - Zanesville Rd.

Lancaster, OH 43130

740-653-0017

Dr. Kent Guisinger

PO Box 2419

Lancaster, OH 43130

740-687-1770

Dr. Sielski

2405 N. Columbus St., Suite 200

Lancaster, OH 43130

740-687-0303

Dr. Penelope Halliday

403 E. Market St.

Washington C.H., OH 43160

740-335-0741

Dr. Hallet

5969 E. Broad St., Suite 301

Columbus, OH 43213

614-864-0673

Dr. Harbrecht

Columbus Urology, Inc.

500 Ln., Suite 3C

Columbus, OH 43214

614-538-2222

Dr. Garner

1069 Delaware Ave., Suite 205C

n, OH 43302

740-387-3256

Dr. Rodica P. Busui

Medical College of Ohio

3120 Glendale Ave.

Toledo, OH 43614

419-383-3707

Dr. Carin Hopps

Medical College of Ohio

3065 Arlington Ave.

Toledo, OH 43614

419-383-3584

Dr. Monath

Southeastern Ohio Urology

751 Forest Ave., Suite 303

Zanesville, OH 43701

740-450-4580

Dr. Fereshte Khavari

Monroe Family Health Center

37984 Airport Rd.

Woodsfiled, OH 43793

740-472-0757

Dr. Hugus

Nordonia Hills Clinic, Inc.

7689 Sagamore Hills Blvd.

Sagamore Hills, OH 44067

330-467-8101

Dr. Brad Hillard

8900 Darrow Rd., Suite H112

Twinsburg, OH 44087

330-425-2212

Dr. Seftel

11100 Euclid Ave.

Cleveland, OH 44106

216-844-7632

Dr. Coseriu

Urological Institute, Cleveland Clinic

14701 Detroit Ave., Suite 640

Lakewood, OH 44107

216-221-6814

Dr. Iierena

18099 Lorain Ave.

Cleveland, OH 44111

216-257-9000

Dr. Leonard Bernstein

12000 McCrackon Rd.

Garfield, OH 44122

216-581-9222

Dr. Shyam Allamaneni

A 191 Cleveland Clinic Foundation, 9500 Euclid

Cleveland, OH 44195

Dr. S. Lehner

104 3rd St. N.W.

Barberton, OH 44203

230-861-2104

Dr. Kathy Richmond

2095 East Ave.

Akron, OH 44314

330-848-2600

Dr. D. Vrable

Firestone Health Care

9671 Callawoods Dr.

Canfield, OH 44406

330-426-9484

Dr. D. Vrable

Firestone Health Care

132 N. Market St.

East Palestine, OH 44406

330-426-9484

Dr. Nichols

North East Ohio Medical Care

310 Windsor Dr.

Courtland, OH 44410

330-637-2444

Dr. Reghetti

115 State Rd. N.W.

Warren, OH 44483

330-847-3334

Dr. Detesco

7341 Eisenhower Dr.

Boardman, OH 44512

330-726-1138

Dr. Jeff Schulz

49 Maple St.

Appe Creek, OH 44606

330-698-2015

Dr. Marco Corallo

18586 W. 5th St.

Beloit, OH 44609

330-938-3333

Dr. Gashash

175 N.Main St.

Magnolia, OH 44643

330-866-5578

Dr. Ravi Shenai

10196 Springfield Pike

Cincinnati, OH 45215

513-771-0800

Dr. Sway

1540 W. Northbend Rd.

Cincinnati, OH 45224

Dr. F. on

12103 Sheraton Ln.

Cincinnati, OH 45246

513-671-4911

Dr. Leonid Macheret

Partners in Wellness, Inc.

375 Glensprings Dr., Suite 400

Springdale, OH 45246

513-851-8791

Dr. Scheidler

PO Box 62657

Cincinnati, OH 45262

513-563-4426

Dr. Philip Whitecar

4428 Indian Ripple Rd.

BeaverCreek, OH 45440

937-431-4144

Dr. P. Knight

90 Pike

Gallipolis, OH 45631

740-446-5237

Dr. J. Heiser

Holzer Clinic

280 Pathensville Rd.

, OH 45640

740-395-8805

Dr. Darold Lance

212 Pearl St., Suite E

, OH 45640

240-286-1822

Dr. Demint

lin Demint, Inc.

PO Box 646

Kingston, OH 45644

740-642-4154

Dr. Hoxie

Waverly Health Clinic

194 E. Emmitt Ave.

Waverly, OH 45690

740-947-7488

Dr. Halesh Patel

Patel Clinic

530 W. Union

Athens, OH 45701

740-592-5918

Dr. Wayne Myles

Albany Family Medicine

2364 Blizzard Ln.

Albany, OH 45710

740-698-1900

> Re:

> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 08:21:22 -0700 (PDT)

> From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@y...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Test Results - help please! - Hypogonadism Digest

> Number 1025

>

> ,

>

> Thanks for the info.

>

> RE: The Endo... Exactly my point right now. I'm really hoping that this

> Endo that I've been referred to does know his stuff! Right now, the

> first step that I would appreciate would simply to be getting a full

> range of tests done. My test that uncovered all of this problem was

> about 3 1/2 weeks ago and showed a 189 total T level. And my regular doc

> wouldn't even consider running a follow-up test for free T, E2, DHT,

> DHEA, etc. his eyes just started glassing over when I started talking

> about those particulars. So I have no clue as to what those levels are!

>

> Anyway, anyone familiar with the Endos listed with either The Hormone

> Foundation (www.hormone.org) or the AACE - American Association of

> Clinical Endocrinologists (http://www.aace.com/index.php)? The guy that

> I was referred to comes up as listed ( " Find-A-Doc " ) on both of those

> sites. But does that really indicate anything??? In lieu of that,

> anyone familiar with an excellent Endo (excellent in this area of

> expertise!) in the NE Ohio (Cleveland) area? Wouldn't mind having a

> back-up if this current guy is clueless!

>

> Thanks.

>

> LRS

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