Guest guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Bruce, Hang in there and keep that positive attitude going. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 If you have the cover Bruce, why not switch to a daily preparation like a gel or Striant? Nick > High T but depressed > > > Hi, > > I'm working my way through the third week of a major depressive > episode that's got me mentally & physically squashed. I'm > assuming that's the reason I'm not seeing results from TRT. > This is part of a lifelong history of bipolar disorder. I > know I'll get > through this, like I have in the past. I'm seeing a good > psychologist, and may adjust psych meds. > > Tests done Monday show T 1105, free T 38 and E2 23. Doctor > says to cut back T-cyp injections (200mg) from every 7 days to > every 10 days. I asked about possible peaks and lows from > extending the frequency, and wouldn't it be better to decrease the > dosage still on a weekly basis. He assured me that this > preparation (from Solutions Pharmacy) was long-lasting enough > to avoid excessive fluctuation in T levels. He's added DHEA to > the mix. He's also spoken with my psychologist. > > Any suggestions? > > Best, > Bruce > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Hi, Nick- I'm not sure what you mean by " the cover " . Insurance? I think I'll stay with the T-cyp injections for now. They're getting my T levels up, and I don't mind the " needlework " . This is the first delivery method to really raise my T since starting TRT in 1998. Previous " recorded " high was 355 ng/mL, so current 1105 is impressive. I'm reasonably certain my lack of physical improvement is due to a neurochemically-caused depression, and once I'm through that I'll enjoy the results of new T levels. Thanks, Bruce > If you have the cover Bruce, why not switch to a daily preparation like > a gel or Striant? > > Nick > > > > > High T but depressed > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm working my way through the third week of a major depressive > > episode that's got me mentally & physically squashed. I'm > > assuming that's the reason I'm not seeing results from TRT. > > This is part of a lifelong history of bipolar disorder. I > > know I'll get > > through this, like I have in the past. I'm seeing a good > > psychologist, and may adjust psych meds. > > > > Tests done Monday show T 1105, free T 38 and E2 23. Doctor > > says to cut back T-cyp injections (200mg) from every 7 days to > > every 10 days. I asked about possible peaks and lows from > > extending the frequency, and wouldn't it be better to decrease the > > dosage still on a weekly basis. He assured me that this > > preparation (from Solutions Pharmacy) was long-lasting enough > > to avoid excessive fluctuation in T levels. He's added DHEA to > > the mix. He's also spoken with my psychologist. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Best, > > Bruce > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Bruce what kind of AD meds. are you on? When I was on a big coattail of 3 meds for major D. I found out I had Low T. the higher the T. got the more the AD meds interfered and I was also told that I had Bipolar and was put on the salts for it never felt any better. As my Dr. started weaning me off the AD meds the better I felt. In my case I never had Major D. or Bipolar and I question the way they come up with these types of Depression in my case I just told the shrink how I felt and he told me I had this WTF is the deal with that. Any way this is what happened to me and my not be the case with you. I would cut back on the weekly shots to 150 mgs. Doing shots every 10 days you will feel low on the last 3 days before you next shot. But for me your levels are not to high these levels are what make me feel good. Today I am having one hell of a time and know it is no fun. But I have learned that this is Distressing Buy Not Dangerous. The crap I am going through is form lowing my E2 to low and your is on the low side should be up between 30-40 on my labs ranges <20 to 56. Phil > Hi, > > I'm working my way through the third week of a major depressive > episode that's got me mentally & physically squashed. I'm > assuming that's the reason I'm not seeing results from TRT. > This is part of a lifelong history of bipolar disorder. I know I'll get > through this, like I have in the past. I'm seeing a good > psychologist, and may adjust psych meds. > > Tests done Monday show T 1105, free T 38 and E2 23. Doctor > says to cut back T-cyp injections (200mg) from every 7 days to > every 10 days. I asked about possible peaks and lows from > extending the frequency, and wouldn't it be better to decrease the > dosage still on a weekly basis. He assured me that this > preparation (from Solutions Pharmacy) was long-lasting enough > to avoid excessive fluctuation in T levels. He's added DHEA to > the mix. He's also spoken with my psychologist. > > Any suggestions? > > Best, > Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Hi Phil, Sorry to hear you're ill & missed your vacation trip. I'm on Prozac 40mg/day (increased from 20mg last week), Lamictal 150mg 2xday (great mood stabilizer, present condition notwithstanding), and Klonopin, 0.5 to 1.0mg/day. I plan to find a new psychiatrist soon (low confidence in current one at VA), and switch to something other than orgasm-destroying Prozac. My bipolar disorder is lifelong, so stopping AD meds is not an option, changing them is. I don't think AD meds affected my T, but I could be wrong. I see a brief study linking Prozac to low T, at http://www.mhsanctuary.com/rx/testos.htm Did you identify meds that affected your T? Thanks for your kind support, Bruce > > Hi, > > > > I'm working my way through the third week of a major depressive > > episode that's got me mentally & physically squashed. I'm > > assuming that's the reason I'm not seeing results from TRT. > > This is part of a lifelong history of bipolar disorder. I know > I'll get > > through this, like I have in the past. I'm seeing a good > > psychologist, and may adjust psych meds. > > > > Tests done Monday show T 1105, free T 38 and E2 23. Doctor > > says to cut back T-cyp injections (200mg) from every 7 days to > > every 10 days. I asked about possible peaks and lows from > > extending the frequency, and wouldn't it be better to decrease the > > dosage still on a weekly basis. He assured me that this > > preparation (from Solutions Pharmacy) was long-lasting enough > > to avoid excessive fluctuation in T levels. He's added DHEA to > > the mix. He's also spoken with my psychologist. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Best, > > Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Hi Bruce the only med you are on that gave me trouble is Prozac this is some bad shit. I not only could not reach an orgasm but I could not void and ended up with a bad bladder infection. It was Prozac that got me to an Urologist and he is the one that found me to have Low Testosterone. Klonopin I could not take I broke out in a bad rash. Have you ever tried Wellbutrin I was on this for a long time and had no trouble with it and knew a man that was Bipolar and said it helped him a lot and no sex side effects. I hope you start feeling better I am disappointed that this morning I had to go back on Xanax I can't take these dam panic attacks. But now that I took a Xanax I am feeling better. Phil > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm working my way through the third week of a major > depressive > > > episode that's got me mentally & physically squashed. I'm > > > assuming that's the reason I'm not seeing results from TRT. > > > This is part of a lifelong history of bipolar disorder. I know > > I'll get > > > through this, like I have in the past. I'm seeing a good > > > psychologist, and may adjust psych meds. > > > > > > Tests done Monday show T 1105, free T 38 and E2 23. > Doctor > > > says to cut back T-cyp injections (200mg) from every 7 days > to > > > every 10 days. I asked about possible peaks and lows from > > > extending the frequency, and wouldn't it be better to decrease > the > > > dosage still on a weekly basis. He assured me that this > > > preparation (from Solutions Pharmacy) was long-lasting > enough > > > to avoid excessive fluctuation in T levels. He's added DHEA > to > > > the mix. He's also spoken with my psychologist. > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > Best, > > > Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Bruce, I second Phil's observation that your E2 is too low. Quest Lab range is 20-50. Once my E2 dropped too low and I got depressed. I understand that you have been diagnosed Bipolar so E2 is not the only factor, but the E2 being on the low side is not going to help your situation. By the way, sometimes anti-seizure type medications are sometimes very effective with Bipolar. I'm thinking of Tegretol and Carbitrol. Dean > > Hi, > > > > I'm working my way through the third week of a major depressive > > episode that's got me mentally & physically squashed. I'm > > assuming that's the reason I'm not seeing results from TRT. > > This is part of a lifelong history of bipolar disorder. I know > I'll get > > through this, like I have in the past. I'm seeing a good > > psychologist, and may adjust psych meds. > > > > Tests done Monday show T 1105, free T 38 and E2 23. Doctor > > says to cut back T-cyp injections (200mg) from every 7 days to > > every 10 days. I asked about possible peaks and lows from > > extending the frequency, and wouldn't it be better to decrease the > > dosage still on a weekly basis. He assured me that this > > preparation (from Solutions Pharmacy) was long-lasting enough > > to avoid excessive fluctuation in T levels. He's added DHEA to > > the mix. He's also spoken with my psychologist. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Best, > > Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Phil, Good advice. I was on Wellbutrin before but stopped because I thought it might be what made me tired. Wrong. Worth another try. Glad you're feeling better. Do you think your present symptoms have something to do with stopping Arimidex? Your recent report of diarhea suggests viral complications. Best, Bruce > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I'm working my way through the third week of a major > > depressive > > > > episode that's got me mentally & physically squashed. I'm > > > > assuming that's the reason I'm not seeing results from TRT. > > > > This is part of a lifelong history of bipolar disorder. I know > > > I'll get > > > > through this, like I have in the past. I'm seeing a good > > > > psychologist, and may adjust psych meds. > > > > > > > > Tests done Monday show T 1105, free T 38 and E2 23. > > Doctor > > > > says to cut back T-cyp injections (200mg) from every 7 days > > to > > > > every 10 days. I asked about possible peaks and lows from > > > > extending the frequency, and wouldn't it be better to decrease > > the > > > > dosage still on a weekly basis. He assured me that this > > > > preparation (from Solutions Pharmacy) was long-lasting > > enough > > > > to avoid excessive fluctuation in T levels. He's added DHEA > > to > > > > the mix. He's also spoken with my psychologist. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Dean, That's two opinions for low E2. I'll consult my doc about adjusting Arimidex. Thanks, Bruce > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm working my way through the third week of a major depressive > > > episode that's got me mentally & physically squashed. I'm > > > assuming that's the reason I'm not seeing results from TRT. > > > This is part of a lifelong history of bipolar disorder. I know > > I'll get > > > through this, like I have in the past. I'm seeing a good > > > psychologist, and may adjust psych meds. > > > > > > Tests done Monday show T 1105, free T 38 and E2 23. Doctor > > > says to cut back T-cyp injections (200mg) from every 7 days to > > > every 10 days. I asked about possible peaks and lows from > > > extending the frequency, and wouldn't it be better to decrease > the > > > dosage still on a weekly basis. He assured me that this > > > preparation (from Solutions Pharmacy) was long-lasting enough > > > to avoid excessive fluctuation in T levels. He's added DHEA to > > > the mix. He's also spoken with my psychologist. > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > Best, > > > Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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