Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I know that flax seed and hemp are popularly-recommended plant-based sources of omega-3. However, with this being discussed here, and figuring most members here are pretty open-minded, I'd like to share some info from Creel. I don't know how I would re-phrase this as it is a series of facts so I hope she doesn't mind if I use her own words. She has said the following about plant-based omega-3 sources: <<Plant-based omega-3s provide alpha linolenic acid, which then must be converted by the body to EPA and DHA. The conversion rate is about 4% for EPA and less than 2% for DHA IF everything is present in the proper quantities for the conversion to occur (this is a rarity). At this rate, a person would have to drink quarts a day of a plant-based omega-3, still, with no guaranteee of getting the EPA and DHA. One of the reasons for taking fish oil is to balance the ratio of omega3 to omega-6. Another problem with the most popular plant-based omega-3 products is that they contain an over-abundance of omega-6, an essential fatty acid much too prevalent in our diets today. Consequently, one never gets to rectify the ratio if one is using a product like flax.>> This really struck me because most literature you read does not mention the fact that plant-based sources do not contain the actual EPA and DHA, but only the ALA. And then, if you're lucky, the body only converts a small portion of this. I'm not sure how a person would be able to balance omega-3s with omega-6s without actual fish oil, though surely it would be a big help to cut down on all rich sources of omega-6s, such as vegetable oils (excluding olive oil). When gives info like this I know that she has done research and is not making it up. I have seen for myself that people commonly claim that various nutrients are available from plants, without explaining or even knowing that their bioavailability is different than if the nutrients came from other sources such as meat or grains. There's usually more to these things than meets the eye. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I know that flax seed and hemp are popularly-recommended plant-based sources of omega-3. However, with this being discussed here, and figuring most members here are pretty open-minded, I'd like to share some info from Creel. I don't know how I would re-phrase this as it is a series of facts so I hope she doesn't mind if I use her own words. She has said the following about plant-based omega-3 sources: <<Plant-based omega-3s provide alpha linolenic acid, which then must be converted by the body to EPA and DHA. The conversion rate is about 4% for EPA and less than 2% for DHA IF everything is present in the proper quantities for the conversion to occur (this is a rarity). At this rate, a person would have to drink quarts a day of a plant-based omega-3, still, with no guaranteee of getting the EPA and DHA. One of the reasons for taking fish oil is to balance the ratio of omega3 to omega-6. Another problem with the most popular plant-based omega-3 products is that they contain an over-abundance of omega-6, an essential fatty acid much too prevalent in our diets today. Consequently, one never gets to rectify the ratio if one is using a product like flax.>> This really struck me because most literature you read does not mention the fact that plant-based sources do not contain the actual EPA and DHA, but only the ALA. And then, if you're lucky, the body only converts a small portion of this. I'm not sure how a person would be able to balance omega-3s with omega-6s without actual fish oil, though surely it would be a big help to cut down on all rich sources of omega-6s, such as vegetable oils (excluding olive oil). When gives info like this I know that she has done research and is not making it up. I have seen for myself that people commonly claim that various nutrients are available from plants, without explaining or even knowing that their bioavailability is different than if the nutrients came from other sources such as meat or grains. There's usually more to these things than meets the eye. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 You're right . Fish oil is an unbeatable source. A shame Sue is allergic...big shame. Sardines is a powerhouse of nutrients, lowest mercury levels. > > I know that flax seed and hemp are popularly-recommended plant-based > sources of omega-3. However, with this being discussed here, and > figuring most members here are pretty open-minded, I'd like to share > some info from Creel. I don't know how I would re-phrase > this as it is a series of facts so I hope she doesn't mind if I use > her own words. She has said the following about plant-based omega-3 > sources: > > <<Plant-based omega-3s provide alpha linolenic acid, which then must > be converted by the body to EPA and DHA. The conversion rate is about > 4% for EPA and less than 2% for DHA IF everything is present in the > proper quantities for the conversion to occur (this is a rarity). At > this rate, a person would have to drink quarts a day of a plant-based > omega-3, still, with no guaranteee of getting the EPA and DHA. > > > One of the reasons for taking fish oil is to balance the ratio of > omega3 to omega-6. Another problem with the most popular plant-based > omega-3 products is that they contain an over-abundance of omega-6, > an essential fatty acid much too prevalent in our diets today. > Consequently, one never gets to rectify the ratio if one is using a > product like flax.>> > > This really struck me because most literature you read does not > mention the fact that plant-based sources do not contain the actual > EPA and DHA, but only the ALA. And then, if you're lucky, the body > only converts a small portion of this. I'm not sure how a person > would be able to balance omega-3s with omega-6s without actual fish > oil, though surely it would be a big help to cut down on all rich > sources of omega-6s, such as vegetable oils (excluding olive oil). > > When gives info like this I know that she has done research > and is not making it up. I have seen for myself that people commonly > claim that various nutrients are available from plants, without > explaining or even knowing that their bioavailability is different > than if the nutrients came from other sources such as meat or grains. > There's usually more to these things than meets the eye. > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 You're right . Fish oil is an unbeatable source. A shame Sue is allergic...big shame. Sardines is a powerhouse of nutrients, lowest mercury levels. > > I know that flax seed and hemp are popularly-recommended plant-based > sources of omega-3. However, with this being discussed here, and > figuring most members here are pretty open-minded, I'd like to share > some info from Creel. I don't know how I would re-phrase > this as it is a series of facts so I hope she doesn't mind if I use > her own words. She has said the following about plant-based omega-3 > sources: > > <<Plant-based omega-3s provide alpha linolenic acid, which then must > be converted by the body to EPA and DHA. The conversion rate is about > 4% for EPA and less than 2% for DHA IF everything is present in the > proper quantities for the conversion to occur (this is a rarity). At > this rate, a person would have to drink quarts a day of a plant-based > omega-3, still, with no guaranteee of getting the EPA and DHA. > > > One of the reasons for taking fish oil is to balance the ratio of > omega3 to omega-6. Another problem with the most popular plant-based > omega-3 products is that they contain an over-abundance of omega-6, > an essential fatty acid much too prevalent in our diets today. > Consequently, one never gets to rectify the ratio if one is using a > product like flax.>> > > This really struck me because most literature you read does not > mention the fact that plant-based sources do not contain the actual > EPA and DHA, but only the ALA. And then, if you're lucky, the body > only converts a small portion of this. I'm not sure how a person > would be able to balance omega-3s with omega-6s without actual fish > oil, though surely it would be a big help to cut down on all rich > sources of omega-6s, such as vegetable oils (excluding olive oil). > > When gives info like this I know that she has done research > and is not making it up. I have seen for myself that people commonly > claim that various nutrients are available from plants, without > explaining or even knowing that their bioavailability is different > than if the nutrients came from other sources such as meat or grains. > There's usually more to these things than meets the eye. > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 You're right . Fish oil is an unbeatable source. A shame Sue is allergic...big shame. Sardines is a powerhouse of nutrients, lowest mercury levels. > > I know that flax seed and hemp are popularly-recommended plant-based > sources of omega-3. However, with this being discussed here, and > figuring most members here are pretty open-minded, I'd like to share > some info from Creel. I don't know how I would re-phrase > this as it is a series of facts so I hope she doesn't mind if I use > her own words. She has said the following about plant-based omega-3 > sources: > > <<Plant-based omega-3s provide alpha linolenic acid, which then must > be converted by the body to EPA and DHA. The conversion rate is about > 4% for EPA and less than 2% for DHA IF everything is present in the > proper quantities for the conversion to occur (this is a rarity). At > this rate, a person would have to drink quarts a day of a plant-based > omega-3, still, with no guaranteee of getting the EPA and DHA. > > > One of the reasons for taking fish oil is to balance the ratio of > omega3 to omega-6. Another problem with the most popular plant-based > omega-3 products is that they contain an over-abundance of omega-6, > an essential fatty acid much too prevalent in our diets today. > Consequently, one never gets to rectify the ratio if one is using a > product like flax.>> > > This really struck me because most literature you read does not > mention the fact that plant-based sources do not contain the actual > EPA and DHA, but only the ALA. And then, if you're lucky, the body > only converts a small portion of this. I'm not sure how a person > would be able to balance omega-3s with omega-6s without actual fish > oil, though surely it would be a big help to cut down on all rich > sources of omega-6s, such as vegetable oils (excluding olive oil). > > When gives info like this I know that she has done research > and is not making it up. I have seen for myself that people commonly > claim that various nutrients are available from plants, without > explaining or even knowing that their bioavailability is different > than if the nutrients came from other sources such as meat or grains. > There's usually more to these things than meets the eye. > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 You're right . Fish oil is an unbeatable source. A shame Sue is allergic...big shame. Sardines is a powerhouse of nutrients, lowest mercury levels. > > I know that flax seed and hemp are popularly-recommended plant-based > sources of omega-3. However, with this being discussed here, and > figuring most members here are pretty open-minded, I'd like to share > some info from Creel. I don't know how I would re-phrase > this as it is a series of facts so I hope she doesn't mind if I use > her own words. She has said the following about plant-based omega-3 > sources: > > <<Plant-based omega-3s provide alpha linolenic acid, which then must > be converted by the body to EPA and DHA. The conversion rate is about > 4% for EPA and less than 2% for DHA IF everything is present in the > proper quantities for the conversion to occur (this is a rarity). At > this rate, a person would have to drink quarts a day of a plant-based > omega-3, still, with no guaranteee of getting the EPA and DHA. > > > One of the reasons for taking fish oil is to balance the ratio of > omega3 to omega-6. Another problem with the most popular plant-based > omega-3 products is that they contain an over-abundance of omega-6, > an essential fatty acid much too prevalent in our diets today. > Consequently, one never gets to rectify the ratio if one is using a > product like flax.>> > > This really struck me because most literature you read does not > mention the fact that plant-based sources do not contain the actual > EPA and DHA, but only the ALA. And then, if you're lucky, the body > only converts a small portion of this. I'm not sure how a person > would be able to balance omega-3s with omega-6s without actual fish > oil, though surely it would be a big help to cut down on all rich > sources of omega-6s, such as vegetable oils (excluding olive oil). > > When gives info like this I know that she has done research > and is not making it up. I have seen for myself that people commonly > claim that various nutrients are available from plants, without > explaining or even knowing that their bioavailability is different > than if the nutrients came from other sources such as meat or grains. > There's usually more to these things than meets the eye. > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Diet Could be Life or Death for Prostate Cancer Patients In a study funded by the National Institutes of Health, Yong Q. Chen of the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, and team, fed a diet rich in omega-3 fatty acids to a group of mice that had been genetically engineered to develop prostate cancer. The omega-3 mice developed fewer tumors and lived longer than those on other diets. The scientists speculate that consuming foods high in omega-3s, like fish and nuts, may benefit men who are genetically predisposed to prostate cancer. (Journal of Clinical Investigation, online edition) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 > Good Morning...I was wondering if anyone could help me as to a dosage appropriate for my 22 month old of Omega-3? Does it come in a powder form that can be mixed with other foods? Any insight would be helpful.This a new endeavor for me. ### I'm not sure there is an amount. You might want to read up here on the different omega acids: http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html The basic idea is to get the proper balance of omega 3 to omega 6 - most people get very little 3 and much too much 6. I try to get most of my omegas from food - unrefined salmon oil is probably the best choice. Eating wild salmon is also good as is flax oil. Feel free to email me off-list - this might be OT. > Secondly, I am visiting a cranio-facial team with my son on the 21st...I am being questioned about my vaccine choices, which I feel has nothing to do with why he is seeing them. Any suggestions? ### I would ask why they want to know. Depending on how they answer and their attitude, you can explain why you don't vax. Otherwise I wouldn't bring it up. Magda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 > > > > Good Morning...I was wondering if anyone could help me as to a dosage appropriate for my 22 month old of Omega-3? Does it come in a powder form that can be mixed with other foods? Any insight would be helpful. This a new endeavor for me. > > > > Secondly, I am visiting a cranio-facial team with my son on the 21st...I am being questioned about my vaccine choices, which I feel has nothing to do with why he is seeing them. Any suggestions? > > > > Thank you in advance! > > Taralee I would ask pointed questions of whomever is questioning your child's vax status. Will he be exposed to diseases during his treatment? What are their concerns with his non-vax status? If you are not fully satisfied with their requests for information that it is pertinent to THEIR medical procedures, I would tell them in that they are to leave the child's vax status with his pediatrician and not to concern themselves with it, since it is not their particular area of oversight in his medical condition. I would be firm but pleasant and you are allowed to just give a nice smile and decide not to discuss it too. About the Omega's, it is important to take supplements based on *weight* of the child. I like the Nordic Naturals Omega 3's for *children*. Go by the weight recommendations on the package and do not give more than that. Be careful if giving fish oils, there are a lot of fat soluble vitamins that you don't want too much of. Nordic Naturals does not have that issue and they have been filtered to remove the mercury. I prefer less of a very high quality supplement or food than to have more of a poor quality substitute. Just my opinion. -Arlynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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