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Hi ,

I can relate to your situation. When I started HRT in 9/2001, I

weighed 340 pounds, Im was 29 yo. Total T was 174 before HRT, was

getting monthly depo injections for the first 6 monthes then my

doctor put my Androgel instead. Since then my total T has went up to

1000, at 1 5 mg packet per day. However my wife and I are still

trying to have kids and I have heard that Androgel can cause lower

sperm production. So I am going to see another endo specializing in

fertility treatment. I am hoping to start HCG/HMG treatments. I have

been diagnosed with secondary and diagnosed as being healthy (low

LH/FSH, T levels indicate otherwise)by 2 different endos so I need to

get a third opinion. Isnt it funny that 2 endo can have opinions

worlds apart! Different schools I suppose.

Since 9/2001 I have lost 55 pounds, thats also with strength

training at the gym 3-5x a week plus 30 min cardio. 52 " waist to a

42 " although now having to use the belt again. Diet has changed

somewhat, I more monitor calories but still like to enjoy steak and

potatoes on the weekend, cant be good all of the time! I have gone

from 40% body fat to 23% as of a month ago. So as you can tell it

takes quite some time to start losing the weight and feeling better,

I suppose we are all different and the effects may effect some sooner

then others.

As far as the effects of HRT I really didnt start feeling better (I

had a hard time maintaining an erection and couldnt seem to get my

wife pregnant were my main symptoms) for several months after

starting treatment. Now I can maintain an erection allot easier and

have sex 4x a week and mastarbate daily.

In all it seems to take time for these things. Believe me it takes

allot of patients to get the results your looking for. I want to lose

another 40 pounds, I know its going to be hard and take some time,

but I know that if I dont think to much about it and maintain therapy

that it will all come in time. Now if I could just get the mrs

pregnant!

> > Thanks Mike.

> >

> >

> >

> > Your experiences may help me in knowing what to expect and how

long

> it

> > might take if you could answer some questions for me:

> >

> >

> >

> > 1. How overweight were you when you started HRT?

> >

> > 2. How long did it take for your gut to disappear?

> >

> > 3. How long into treatment was it that you first noticed real

change

> > that you couldn't dismiss as just your imagination? (I do that a

lot

> > already)

> >

> > 4. Did you exercise or diet much to speed the changes?

> >

> > 5. Did you lose actual weight or just trim down and become more

> > muscular?

> >

> >

> >

> > I am mostly interested in the Wellbrutrin/Zyban it in for the

> smoking

> > cessation, but I kind of liked the added benefits. But yes, I

guess

> I am

> > mostly just impatient to be back in good shape. I feel like a

> million

> > bucks already compared to what I did, but I sure don't look like

it.

> > Heh.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> > Connery

> >

> > Email: jonathan@s...

> > <mailto:jonathan@s...>

> >

> > Web: http://www.jonathanconnery.com

> > <http://www.jonathanconnery.com/>

> >

> >

> >

> > " We must always strive to do the things we think we cannot do. " -

> Eleanor

> > Roosevelt

> >

> > 's status...

> > >Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 15:23:02 -0500

> > >

> > >Well guys, I have been on treatment for about 3 months for HH. I

> was

> > >diagnosed a long time ago, but only went back to get full tests

> done 3

> > >months ago. At that time they found my testosterone level to be

> nearly

> > >undetectable at 15. I was prescribed AndroGel in 5G packs to

take

> once

> > a

> > >day, of course I went to 5G twice a day because I knew 5G would

> never

> > be

> > >enough. I was tested last month and my testosterone had gone up

to

> 676.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >After this, my doctor agreed to allow me to try hCG. I am

> currently on

> > a

> > >combination therapy of 5G of AG every morning, followed by 2CC

of

> hCG

> > >taken every 2 days. This is where I am now.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >I have another appointment with my endocrinologist on the 12th,

so

> > >tomorrow morning I am going in to get a ton of blood work done. I

> > >believe I am having the following tests:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Total and free testosterone

> > >

> > >Cholesterol

> > >

> > >Estrogen

> > >

> > >Prolactin

> > >

> > >Estradiol

> > >

> > >Growth hormone

> > >

> > >Diabetes test

> > >

> > >PSA

> > >

> > >Thyroid panel

> > >

> > >Liver enzymes

> > >

> > >Hemoglobin

> > >

> > >Hematocrit

> > >

> > >SHBG

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >When I go in on the 12th I am having a bone density scan to

check

> for

> > >osteoporosis, discuss Ameridex to control aromatase, as well as a

> > >welbrutrin prescription. There have been new studies released

that

> show

> > >that Wellbutrin can not only help with depression, quitting

> smoking,

> > but

> > >it also helps people lose weight. I may try it. I am determined

to

> do

> > >whatever it takes to get myself looking and feeling the way I

know

> I

> > >deserve to be. I am also looking into liposuction to assist with

> losing

> > >some of this. Once I get the results and talk them over with the

> > doctor,

> > >I will give everyone a full report.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Regarding obesity, for the past 2 years I have been fighting a

> losing

> > >battle against it. I was always small or was in fairly good shape

> > >(175lbs). 2 years ago, I theorize that what ever was left of the

> > >testosterone I produced must have failed entirely. That is when

my

> T

> > >dropped to 15, nearly undetectable. Within those 2 years I have

> gained

> > >70 pounds. Dieting didn't work; exercise is practically useless

for

> > >untreated HH patients.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Since going on therapy 3 months ago I have not yet lost weight,

> but I

> > am

> > >finding out new things about myself nearly every day. I am

growing

> > >facial hair for the first time in my life, my existing pubic,

leg,

> and

> > >arm hairs are coming in thicker and darker. My muscles are

> expanding

> > >(why the weight hasn't gone down) but I am trimming up. The best

> thing

> > >is that mentally I am motivated and hopeful, and physically I

have

> > >energy to ride 22 miles 3 times a week again, as well as blade

for

> 2

> > >hours on the off days I do not ride. My libido went from non-

> existent

> > >to being practically a pervert. The only bad thing is that my

acne

> has

> > >come back with a vengeance, which seriously sucks but I will

endure

> > >anything at this point.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Best of luck to all of us and never give up.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Regards,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Connery

> > >

> > >Email: jonathan@s...

> > ><mailto:jonathan@s...>

> > >

> > >Web: http://www.jonathanconnery.com

> > ><http://www.jonathanconnery.com/>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " We must always strive to do the things we think we cannot do. "

> > -Eleanor

> > >Roosevelt

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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