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Hi Randy,

Your testosterone is looking good to me. But your lipids are another

matter. Your good protective HDL is extremely low, I would imagine

your most protective marker, your HDL2 subfraction would be

dangerously low. Your triglycerides and LDL are rather high, have you

had your thyroid checked? If not that, are you on a low fat diet or

eat a lot of grains (bread, cookies, crackers, bagels, pretezels,

Raisin Bran, etc? That can really ruin your HDL, you should be

including high dose fish oil, with olive oil on your salad, eat lots

of vegetables and protein, etc. That will bring down your

triglycerides and raise your HDL, so much so you will be stunned.

Be well, Neil

>

> After 6 months of treatment my labs are back and the results are as

> follows:

>

> Total T: 719.0 (240-950) Up from 221

> Free T: 31.6 (9-30) up from 2.1

> PSA: 0.7 ( 0-4.0)

> Estradiol 38.0 (20-75)

>

> WBC 6.6 (4.5-9.5)

> RBC 5.6 (4.6-6.2)

> HGB 17.5 (13.5-18.0) Up from 15.3

> HCT 50.5 (40-54) up from 45.7

> MCV 90.0 (80-94)

> MCH 31.0 (27-31)

> MCHC 35.0 (33-37)

> RDW 12.8 (13.1-15.3)

> MPV 7.7 (8.5-9.9)

> PLT 250.0 (150-400)

> NA 140.0 (135-145)

> K 4.2 (3.5-4.1)

> CL 102.0 (95-108)

> CO2 27.3 (22-33)

> GLU 95.0 (70-139)

> BUN 13.0 (8-28)

> Chol Tot 257.0 (0-200) up from 229

> Trig 179.0 (50-165)

> HDL 30.0 (29-165) up from 25

> LDL 191.0 (70-205) up from 178

> TP 7.6 (6.0-8.0)

> CA 10.1 (8.5-10.5)

> ALK 84.0 (30-115)

> SGPT 54.0 (6-40) Stable but high

> SGOT 37.0 (7-40)

> TBIL 1.4 (0-1.4)

> Cre .8 (.8-1.2)

> Bun/Cre 16.0 (10-20)

> Albumin 4.6 (3.0-5.0)

> Alb/Glob 1.5 (1.1-1.8)

>

> Doctor is diagnosing slight liver issues and possible polycythemia

> because of the increase in HGB and HCT. I understand that this can

> be a common issue with some folks, and it is worse on cyp than on

> gels. I am a smoker so I smoked my last cig about an hour ago (I've

> quit before I'll do it again!) and I also understand that some folks

> do what is called theraputic phlebotomy (give blood regularly) in

> order to cope with the poly. I've also read that taking a blood

> thinner such as naproxet is an additional approach.

>

> My girlfriend is a MAJOR fan of homeopathic medecin, thus a trip to

> the natural food and supplement store yesterday had me pick up

> several things including DimSum, Gaba, Milk Thistle, Beta-

> Sitosterol, " Liver Care " (a collection of herbs??) and Omega 3 fatty

> acids.

>

> She has banned me from buying beef unless it is hormone and

> antibiotic free, and then only once a month, egg beaters, fat free

> half and half, and tons of chicken and turkey... Add a return to the

> gym since summer os over (3 days cardio only 3 days resistance

> training), and I'm hoping to turn most of this around in 3 months or

> so.

>

> From the above, does anyone see anything else I should be paying

> attention to?? Is there anything else I should be doing?? I'm

> already making some fairly major lifestyle alterations May as well

> get them all in at once.

>

> Thanks in advance folks

>

> Randy

>

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On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:07:03 -0000, you wrote:

>Trig 179.0 (50-165)

You can get your triglycerides to plummet by simply reducing your

sugar intake. Start paying attention to how much sugar is in the

things you eat. You';d be surprised. I thought I was eating healthy -

breakfast was yogurt, whole grain cereal, and OJ. I found out the

yogurt had 8 teaspoons of sugar, the cereal had 4, and the OH another

5!

I looked for low sugar foods and in a matter of weeks my Trig dropped

by over half. (I also effortlessly dropped 10 pounds in the first

month.)

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I feel great! Thanks for asking :) and my girlfriend wants a nite off, so wood

is pure OAK these days!! I do get the itch and we have so far assumed it had to

be stress but that would also affect my BP which has never been off by more than

3 or 4 points from a perfect 120/80.

Stopped the gym for the summer but should start back after labor day when school

starts for my son and I have to get him there for 7:30 and have 90 minutes to

burn before work. Will go to 3 days on weights and 2 on cardio as of then

I took an appointment to see the vampires on Sept 5th and will repeat every 8

weeks now

That should only leave my lipids as an issue

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Labs are back

Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 1:07 PM

After 6 months of treatment my labs are back and the results are as

follows:

Total T: 719.0 (240-950) Up from 221

Free T: 31.6 (9-30) up from 2.1

PSA: 0.7 ( 0-4.0)

Estradiol 38.0 (20-75)

WBC 6.6 (4.5-9.5)

RBC 5.6 (4.6-6.2)

HGB 17.5 (13.5-18.0) Up from 15.3

HCT 50.5 (40-54) up from 45.7

MCV 90.0 (80-94)

MCH 31.0 (27-31)

MCHC 35.0 (33-37)

RDW 12.8 (13.1-15.3)

MPV 7.7 (8.5-9.9)

PLT 250.0 (150-400)

NA 140.0 (135-145)

K 4.2 (3.5-4.1)

CL 102.0 (95-108)

CO2 27.3 (22-33)

GLU 95.0 (70-139)

BUN 13.0 (8-28)

Chol Tot 257.0 (0-200) up from 229

Trig 179.0 (50-165)

HDL 30.0 (29-165) up from 25

LDL 191.0 (70-205) up from 178

TP 7.6 (6.0-8.0)

CA 10.1 (8.5-10.5)

ALK 84.0 (30-115)

SGPT 54.0 (6-40) Stable but high

SGOT 37.0 (7-40)

TBIL 1.4 (0-1.4)

Cre .8 (.8-1.2)

Bun/Cre 16.0 (10-20)

Albumin 4.6 (3.0-5.0)

Alb/Glob 1.5 (1.1-1.8)

Doctor is diagnosing slight liver issues and possible polycythemia

because of the increase in HGB and HCT. I understand that this can

be a common issue with some folks, and it is worse on cyp than on

gels. I am a smoker so I smoked my last cig about an hour ago (I've

quit before I'll do it again!) and I also understand that some folks

do what is called theraputic phlebotomy (give blood regularly) in

order to cope with the poly. I've also read that taking a blood

thinner such as naproxet is an additional approach.

My girlfriend is a MAJOR fan of homeopathic medecin, thus a trip to

the natural food and supplement store yesterday had me pick up

several things including DimSum, Gaba, Milk Thistle, Beta-

Sitosterol, " Liver Care " (a collection of herbs??) and Omega 3 fatty

acids.

She has banned me from buying beef unless it is hormone and

antibiotic free, and then only once a month, egg beaters, fat free

half and half, and tons of chicken and turkey... Add a return to the

gym since summer os over (3 days cardio only 3 days resistance

training), and I'm hoping to turn most of this around in 3 months or

so.

From the above, does anyone see anything else I should be paying

attention to?? Is there anything else I should be doing?? I'm

already making some fairly major lifestyle alterations May as well

get them all in at once.

Thanks in advance folks

Randy

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On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:47:23 +0000, you wrote:

>

>Neil,

>

>So sounds like atkin had some truth to it! I'm now stuck with the issue of

what to eat. Sounds like I should be living off of muscle milk shakes and

bananas and fish. Not sure what's left any more except pure protein. Are there

any sites that are good with the dietary advice based on this??

>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

This guy is the most sensible I've seen:

http://www.realage.com/ct/the-you-docs/you-on-a-diet/cbr/YDGGLE18

These are theOprah crew.

http://www.oprah.com/slideshow/health/weightloss/slideshow2_ss_yourbody_20061102\

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I just skimmed the Rosedale text you posted a link to, that stuff is

right on!

Other good bets would be this blog

http://www.drbganimalpharm.blogspot.com/

Dr. B.G. is a PHD in pharmacology and is a gread read.

Also these...

http://mypaleokitchen.blogspot.com/

http://feelgoodeating.blogspot.com/

http://lemurcuisine.blogspot.com/

And of course, Dr. 's blog.

http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/

Thornton wrote:

>

> Dr. Ron Rosedale has a book to sell but there is some pretty good

> information here. Long read.

> http://www.biblelife.org/rosedale.htm

> <http://www.biblelife.org/rosedale.htm>

>

> Re: Labs are back

>

> Hi Randy,

>

> I believe we are brainwashed into thinking grains are healthy, but

> grains are a relatively new thing for mankind. I used to eat a big

> bowl of Raisin Bran with skim milk and thought I was doing my body

> good. My HDL was 29....fast forward a bit....I had a heart attack at

> the age of 46.

>

> Grains=sugar. You can eat a piece of whole grain whatever, wait an

> hour and take your blood sugar. It will be through the roof. In many

> instances grains raise your blood sugar faster than if you ate right

> out of the sugar bowl.

>

> Now my HDL is 71, my HDL2 is way up there too. My views are not

> fringe, there is real science to support my position. This

> cardiologist, Dr. , has all his patients get off grains and gives

> them big doses of fish oil (I take 6,000 DHA+EPA daily, that would be

> about 20 regular fish oil capsules, but I use a liquid Carlson's

> prep.) and uses olive oil, etc, in his treatment. He sees HUGE

> improvements in their CT heart scan scores, yes often actual

> regression of plaque.

>

> http://heartscanblo g.blogspot. com/search/ label/Wheat

>

> Feel well,

>

> Neil

>

>

> > >

> > > After 6 months of treatment my labs are back and the results are as

> > > follows:

> > >

> > > Total T: 719.0 (240-950) Up from 221

> > > Free T: 31.6 (9-30) up from 2.1

> > > PSA: 0.7 ( 0-4.0)

> > > Estradiol 38.0 (20-75)

> > >

> > > WBC 6.6 (4.5-9.5)

> > > RBC 5.6 (4.6-6.2)

> > > HGB 17.5 (13.5-18.0) Up from 15.3

> > > HCT 50.5 (40-54) up from 45.7

> > > MCV 90.0 (80-94)

> > > MCH 31.0 (27-31)

> > > MCHC 35.0 (33-37)

> > > RDW 12.8 (13.1-15.3)

> > > MPV 7.7 (8.5-9.9)

> > > PLT 250.0 (150-400)

> > > NA 140.0 (135-145)

> > > K 4.2 (3.5-4.1)

> > > CL 102.0 (95-108)

> > > CO2 27.3 (22-33)

> > > GLU 95.0 (70-139)

> > > BUN 13.0 (8-28)

> > > Chol Tot 257.0 (0-200) up from 229

> > > Trig 179.0 (50-165)

> > > HDL 30.0 (29-165) up from 25

> > > LDL 191.0 (70-205) up from 178

> > > TP 7.6 (6.0-8.0)

> > > CA 10.1 (8.5-10.5)

> > > ALK 84.0 (30-115)

> > > SGPT 54.0 (6-40) Stable but high

> > > SGOT 37.0 (7-40)

> > > TBIL 1.4 (0-1.4)

> > > Cre .8 (.8-1.2)

> > > Bun/Cre 16.0 (10-20)

> > > Albumin 4.6 (3.0-5.0)

> > > Alb/Glob 1.5 (1.1-1.8)

> > >

> > > Doctor is diagnosing slight liver issues and possible polycythemia

> > > because of the increase in HGB and HCT. I understand that this can

> > > be a common issue with some folks, and it is worse on cyp than on

> > > gels. I am a smoker so I smoked my last cig about an hour ago (I've

> > > quit before I'll do it again!) and I also understand that some folks

> > > do what is called theraputic phlebotomy (give blood regularly) in

> > > order to cope with the poly. I've also read that taking a blood

> > > thinner such as naproxet is an additional approach.

> > >

> > > My girlfriend is a MAJOR fan of homeopathic medecin, thus a trip to

> > > the natural food and supplement store yesterday had me pick up

> > > several things including DimSum, Gaba, Milk Thistle, Beta-

> > > Sitosterol, " Liver Care " (a collection of herbs??) and Omega 3 fatty

> > > acids.

> > >

> > > She has banned me from buying beef unless it is hormone and

> > > antibiotic free, and then only once a month, egg beaters, fat free

> > > half and half, and tons of chicken and turkey... Add a return to the

> > > gym since summer os over (3 days cardio only 3 days resistance

> > > training), and I'm hoping to turn most of this around in 3 months or

> > > so.

> > >

> > > From the above, does anyone see anything else I should be paying

> > > attention to?? Is there anything else I should be doing?? I'm

> > > already making some fairly major lifestyle alterations May as well

> > > get them all in at once.

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance folks

> > >

> > > Randy

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thanks for the links Neil. Lots of reading to do!

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>

> Hi Randy,

>

> I believe we are brainwashed into thinking grains are healthy, but

> grains are a relatively new thing for mankind. I used to eat a big

> bowl of Raisin Bran with skim milk and thought I was doing my body

> good. My HDL was 29....fast forward a bit....I had a heart attack at

> the age of 46.

>

> Grains=sugar. You can eat a piece of whole grain whatever, wait an

> hour and take your blood sugar. It will be through the roof. In many

> instances grains raise your blood sugar faster than if you ate right

> out of the sugar bowl.

>

> Now my HDL is 71, my HDL2 is way up there too. My views are not

> fringe, there is real science to support my position. This

> cardiologist, Dr. , has all his patients get off grains and gives

> them big doses of fish oil (I take 6,000 DHA+EPA daily, that would be

> about 20 regular fish oil capsules, but I use a liquid Carlson's

> prep.) and uses olive oil, etc, in his treatment. He sees HUGE

> improvements in their CT heart scan scores, yes often actual

> regression of plaque.

>

> http://heartscanblo g.blogspot. com/search/ label/Wheat

>

> Feel well,

>

> Neil

>

>

> > >

> > > After 6 months of treatment my labs are back and the results are as

> > > follows:

> > >

> > > Total T: 719.0 (240-950) Up from 221

> > > Free T: 31.6 (9-30) up from 2.1

> > > PSA: 0.7 ( 0-4.0)

> > > Estradiol 38.0 (20-75)

> > >

> > > WBC 6.6 (4.5-9.5)

> > > RBC 5.6 (4.6-6.2)

> > > HGB 17.5 (13.5-18.0) Up from 15.3

> > > HCT 50.5 (40-54) up from 45.7

> > > MCV 90.0 (80-94)

> > > MCH 31.0 (27-31)

> > > MCHC 35.0 (33-37)

> > > RDW 12.8 (13.1-15.3)

> > > MPV 7.7 (8.5-9.9)

> > > PLT 250.0 (150-400)

> > > NA 140.0 (135-145)

> > > K 4.2 (3.5-4.1)

> > > CL 102.0 (95-108)

> > > CO2 27.3 (22-33)

> > > GLU 95.0 (70-139)

> > > BUN 13.0 (8-28)

> > > Chol Tot 257.0 (0-200) up from 229

> > > Trig 179.0 (50-165)

> > > HDL 30.0 (29-165) up from 25

> > > LDL 191.0 (70-205) up from 178

> > > TP 7.6 (6.0-8.0)

> > > CA 10.1 (8.5-10.5)

> > > ALK 84.0 (30-115)

> > > SGPT 54.0 (6-40) Stable but high

> > > SGOT 37.0 (7-40)

> > > TBIL 1.4 (0-1.4)

> > > Cre .8 (.8-1.2)

> > > Bun/Cre 16.0 (10-20)

> > > Albumin 4.6 (3.0-5.0)

> > > Alb/Glob 1.5 (1.1-1.8)

> > >

> > > Doctor is diagnosing slight liver issues and possible polycythemia

> > > because of the increase in HGB and HCT. I understand that this can

> > > be a common issue with some folks, and it is worse on cyp than on

> > > gels. I am a smoker so I smoked my last cig about an hour ago (I've

> > > quit before I'll do it again!) and I also understand that some folks

> > > do what is called theraputic phlebotomy (give blood regularly) in

> > > order to cope with the poly. I've also read that taking a blood

> > > thinner such as naproxet is an additional approach.

> > >

> > > My girlfriend is a MAJOR fan of homeopathic medecin, thus a trip to

> > > the natural food and supplement store yesterday had me pick up

> > > several things including DimSum, Gaba, Milk Thistle, Beta-

> > > Sitosterol, " Liver Care " (a collection of herbs??) and Omega 3 fatty

> > > acids.

> > >

> > > She has banned me from buying beef unless it is hormone and

> > > antibiotic free, and then only once a month, egg beaters, fat free

> > > half and half, and tons of chicken and turkey... Add a return to the

> > > gym since summer os over (3 days cardio only 3 days resistance

> > > training), and I'm hoping to turn most of this around in 3 months or

> > > so.

> > >

> > > From the above, does anyone see anything else I should be paying

> > > attention to?? Is there anything else I should be doing?? I'm

> > > already making some fairly major lifestyle alterations May as well

> > > get them all in at once.

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance folks

> > >

> > > Randy

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi ,

Cardiologist Dr. has another website as well, that would

be www.trackyourplaque.com

He charges a modest fee for membership, just enough to cover bandwidth

and for someone to maintain the website, I think they billed me $19

bucks about six months ago! He sells nothing, although he has a

paperback book by the same title, also for a modest fee.

One advantage for having a membership is that he and many of the posters

will answer questions about diet, medications, niacin, fish oil and

fats. That PHD that has the blog I posted yesterday, " G " is her name,

regularly posts there as well on their " forum " . The conversation is at a

very high level. Some of the threads are simply amazing. Where else can

you pick the brain of a board certified cardiologist that is up on the

latest medical advancements and practices prevention??!!

One of the posters, Slim, has lost a great deal of weight

incorperating the dietary changes that we have been talking about here.

Here is his story.

http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/flying-in-fog.html

Hope this helps, sorry the links are fragmented, sucks that way.

Hope you can paste them back together.

Neil

Thornton wrote:

>

> Thanks for the links Neil. Lots of reading to do!

>

> Re: Labs are back

> >

> > Hi Randy,

> >

> > I believe we are brainwashed into thinking grains are healthy, but

> > grains are a relatively new thing for mankind. I used to eat a big

> > bowl of Raisin Bran with skim milk and thought I was doing my body

> > good. My HDL was 29....fast forward a bit....I had a heart attack at

> > the age of 46.

> >

> > Grains=sugar. You can eat a piece of whole grain whatever, wait an

> > hour and take your blood sugar. It will be through the roof. In many

> > instances grains raise your blood sugar faster than if you ate right

> > out of the sugar bowl.

> >

> > Now my HDL is 71, my HDL2 is way up there too. My views are not

> > fringe, there is real science to support my position. This

> > cardiologist, Dr. , has all his patients get off grains and gives

> > them big doses of fish oil (I take 6,000 DHA+EPA daily, that would be

> > about 20 regular fish oil capsules, but I use a liquid Carlson's

> > prep.) and uses olive oil, etc, in his treatment. He sees HUGE

> > improvements in their CT heart scan scores, yes often actual

> > regression of plaque.

> >

> > http://heartscanblo g.blogspot. com/search/ label/Wheat

> >

> > Feel well,

> >

> > Neil

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > After 6 months of treatment my labs are back and the results are as

> > > > follows:

> > > >

> > > > Total T: 719.0 (240-950) Up from 221

> > > > Free T: 31.6 (9-30) up from 2.1

> > > > PSA: 0.7 ( 0-4.0)

> > > > Estradiol 38.0 (20-75)

> > > >

> > > > WBC 6.6 (4.5-9.5)

> > > > RBC 5.6 (4.6-6.2)

> > > > HGB 17.5 (13.5-18.0) Up from 15.3

> > > > HCT 50.5 (40-54) up from 45.7

> > > > MCV 90.0 (80-94)

> > > > MCH 31.0 (27-31)

> > > > MCHC 35.0 (33-37)

> > > > RDW 12.8 (13.1-15.3)

> > > > MPV 7.7 (8.5-9.9)

> > > > PLT 250.0 (150-400)

> > > > NA 140.0 (135-145)

> > > > K 4.2 (3.5-4.1)

> > > > CL 102.0 (95-108)

> > > > CO2 27.3 (22-33)

> > > > GLU 95.0 (70-139)

> > > > BUN 13.0 (8-28)

> > > > Chol Tot 257.0 (0-200) up from 229

> > > > Trig 179.0 (50-165)

> > > > HDL 30.0 (29-165) up from 25

> > > > LDL 191.0 (70-205) up from 178

> > > > TP 7.6 (6.0-8.0)

> > > > CA 10.1 (8.5-10.5)

> > > > ALK 84.0 (30-115)

> > > > SGPT 54.0 (6-40) Stable but high

> > > > SGOT 37.0 (7-40)

> > > > TBIL 1.4 (0-1.4)

> > > > Cre .8 (.8-1.2)

> > > > Bun/Cre 16.0 (10-20)

> > > > Albumin 4.6 (3.0-5.0)

> > > > Alb/Glob 1.5 (1.1-1.8)

> > > >

> > > > Doctor is diagnosing slight liver issues and possible polycythemia

> > > > because of the increase in HGB and HCT. I understand that this can

> > > > be a common issue with some folks, and it is worse on cyp than on

> > > > gels. I am a smoker so I smoked my last cig about an hour ago (I've

> > > > quit before I'll do it again!) and I also understand that some folks

> > > > do what is called theraputic phlebotomy (give blood regularly) in

> > > > order to cope with the poly. I've also read that taking a blood

> > > > thinner such as naproxet is an additional approach.

> > > >

> > > > My girlfriend is a MAJOR fan of homeopathic medecin, thus a trip to

> > > > the natural food and supplement store yesterday had me pick up

> > > > several things including DimSum, Gaba, Milk Thistle, Beta-

> > > > Sitosterol, " Liver Care " (a collection of herbs??) and Omega 3 fatty

> > > > acids.

> > > >

> > > > She has banned me from buying beef unless it is hormone and

> > > > antibiotic free, and then only once a month, egg beaters, fat free

> > > > half and half, and tons of chicken and turkey... Add a return to the

> > > > gym since summer os over (3 days cardio only 3 days resistance

> > > > training), and I'm hoping to turn most of this around in 3 months or

> > > > so.

> > > >

> > > > From the above, does anyone see anything else I should be paying

> > > > attention to?? Is there anything else I should be doing?? I'm

> > > > already making some fairly major lifestyle alterations May as well

> > > > get them all in at once.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance folks

> > > >

> > > > Randy

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I got them. I will have to check it out. Thanks!

I am down 40lbs. so far with a modified low carb diet. It is definitely helping

everything else with me. It is modified for me by me so that I can enjoy it the

rest of my life and not make it a labor to temporarily lose weight. A diet needs

to be a just that, a diet, and not a temporary pain in the back side just to get

your weight down. That was my problem before. I was always all in and just

toughed it out. Of course the weight all came back and more. I am eating way

less carbs to help with the lipids, eating more vegetables which includes using

a juicer(above ground vegetables only) at least 5 days a week for breakfast, and

have a cheat day every week.

Re: Labs are back

> >

> > Hi Randy,

> >

> > I believe we are brainwashed into thinking grains are healthy, but

> > grains are a relatively new thing for mankind. I used to eat a big

> > bowl of Raisin Bran with skim milk and thought I was doing my body

> > good. My HDL was 29....fast forward a bit....I had a heart attack at

> > the age of 46.

> >

> > Grains=sugar. You can eat a piece of whole grain whatever, wait an

> > hour and take your blood sugar. It will be through the roof. In many

> > instances grains raise your blood sugar faster than if you ate right

> > out of the sugar bowl.

> >

> > Now my HDL is 71, my HDL2 is way up there too. My views are not

> > fringe, there is real science to support my position. This

> > cardiologist, Dr. , has all his patients get off grains and gives

> > them big doses of fish oil (I take 6,000 DHA+EPA daily, that would be

> > about 20 regular fish oil capsules, but I use a liquid Carlson's

> > prep.) and uses olive oil, etc, in his treatment. He sees HUGE

> > improvements in their CT heart scan scores, yes often actual

> > regression of plaque.

> >

> > http://heartscanblo g.blogspot. com/search/ label/Wheat

> >

> > Feel well,

> >

> > Neil

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > After 6 months of treatment my labs are back and the results are as

> > > > follows:

> > > >

> > > > Total T: 719.0 (240-950) Up from 221

> > > > Free T: 31.6 (9-30) up from 2.1

> > > > PSA: 0.7 ( 0-4.0)

> > > > Estradiol 38.0 (20-75)

> > > >

> > > > WBC 6.6 (4.5-9.5)

> > > > RBC 5.6 (4.6-6.2)

> > > > HGB 17.5 (13.5-18.0) Up from 15.3

> > > > HCT 50.5 (40-54) up from 45.7

> > > > MCV 90.0 (80-94)

> > > > MCH 31.0 (27-31)

> > > > MCHC 35.0 (33-37)

> > > > RDW 12.8 (13.1-15.3)

> > > > MPV 7.7 (8.5-9.9)

> > > > PLT 250.0 (150-400)

> > > > NA 140.0 (135-145)

> > > > K 4.2 (3.5-4.1)

> > > > CL 102.0 (95-108)

> > > > CO2 27.3 (22-33)

> > > > GLU 95.0 (70-139)

> > > > BUN 13.0 (8-28)

> > > > Chol Tot 257.0 (0-200) up from 229

> > > > Trig 179.0 (50-165)

> > > > HDL 30.0 (29-165) up from 25

> > > > LDL 191.0 (70-205) up from 178

> > > > TP 7.6 (6.0-8.0)

> > > > CA 10.1 (8.5-10.5)

> > > > ALK 84.0 (30-115)

> > > > SGPT 54.0 (6-40) Stable but high

> > > > SGOT 37.0 (7-40)

> > > > TBIL 1.4 (0-1.4)

> > > > Cre .8 (.8-1.2)

> > > > Bun/Cre 16.0 (10-20)

> > > > Albumin 4.6 (3.0-5.0)

> > > > Alb/Glob 1.5 (1.1-1.8)

> > > >

> > > > Doctor is diagnosing slight liver issues and possible polycythemia

> > > > because of the increase in HGB and HCT. I understand that this can

> > > > be a common issue with some folks, and it is worse on cyp than on

> > > > gels. I am a smoker so I smoked my last cig about an hour ago (I've

> > > > quit before I'll do it again!) and I also understand that some folks

> > > > do what is called theraputic phlebotomy (give blood regularly) in

> > > > order to cope with the poly. I've also read that taking a blood

> > > > thinner such as naproxet is an additional approach.

> > > >

> > > > My girlfriend is a MAJOR fan of homeopathic medecin, thus a trip to

> > > > the natural food and supplement store yesterday had me pick up

> > > > several things including DimSum, Gaba, Milk Thistle, Beta-

> > > > Sitosterol, " Liver Care " (a collection of herbs??) and Omega 3 fatty

> > > > acids.

> > > >

> > > > She has banned me from buying beef unless it is hormone and

> > > > antibiotic free, and then only once a month, egg beaters, fat free

> > > > half and half, and tons of chicken and turkey... Add a return to the

> > > > gym since summer os over (3 days cardio only 3 days resistance

> > > > training), and I'm hoping to turn most of this around in 3 months or

> > > > so.

> > > >

> > > > From the above, does anyone see anything else I should be paying

> > > > attention to?? Is there anything else I should be doing?? I'm

> > > > already making some fairly major lifestyle alterations May as well

> > > > get them all in at once.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance folks

> > > >

> > > > Randy

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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