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A brief history:

Vasecotomy with left testicle infection

6 months later ED sets in

Since that time yearly T levels have been around 500 ng/dl (241-827)

In June T was 308 and Free T was 46.9 (47-244), FSH was 0.3 mIU/ML

(0.9-15.0), LH was 3.3 (1.3-12.9)

Went to endo yesterday. He says testicles are fine or FSH would be

high so T issue must stem from message sent from brain (i.e.,

pituitary gland). He wants to draw T again to see if reading was

anamolous and if it comes back in 300 range will call for MRI of

pituitary.

That was about it - he did say T replacement is needed if it is

still low. Nothing about Clomid, etc. but we haven't gotten very

far yet.

Any comments from you more experienced sorts? Does he sound like he

is following appropriate protocol?

Thanks,

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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:31:17 -0000, you wrote:

>

>Subject: First endo visit

>From: " devo101 " <edeaver@...>

>Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:31:17 -0000

>

>A brief history:

>

>Vasecotomy with left testicle infection

>6 months later ED sets in

>Since that time yearly T levels have been around 500 ng/dl (241-827)

>In June T was 308 and Free T was 46.9 (47-244), FSH was 0.3 mIU/ML

>(0.9-15.0), LH was 3.3 (1.3-12.9)

>

>Went to endo yesterday. He says testicles are fine or FSH would be

>high so T issue must stem from message sent from brain (i.e.,

>pituitary gland). He wants to draw T again to see if reading was

>anamolous and if it comes back in 300 range will call for MRI of

>pituitary.

>

>That was about it - he did say T replacement is needed if it is

>still low. Nothing about Clomid, etc. but we haven't gotten very

>far yet.

>

>Any comments from you more experienced sorts? Does he sound like he

>is following appropriate protocol?

His position sounds reasonable to me. If the 2nd T tests come back

lower see he does ferritin, and prolactin tests. And I'd probably push

for an E2 test also before that.

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Just another albino black sheep

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Hi , 

Sounds like he knows what he's doing. He's tested for more than T, and has =

found something interesting. He considers T low " in range " as requiring

treatment. These are good indications of his competence.

He's describing secondary hypogonadism, so Clomid or HCG are an option.

TRT may be okay, since fertility isn't an issue.

The following is a list of tests from the s Hopkins Mens Health Guide:

AFP, DEXA, DHEA, DHEA-S, Estradiol (E2), FSH, HCG, IGF-1, LH, Prolactin,

PSA, Semen Analysis and SHBG. Not all are appropriate at this point. There =

are explanations of the tests and interpretation of results at:

http://www.hopkins-menshealth.org/labs_article.php3

Here's my GUESS at what he'll do next (or soon): order an MRI of your

hypothalamus and pituitary. The former sends FRH to the latter, telling it =

to

make FSH. That ain't happening. He should rule out a tumor in one of those.=

This MRI is pretty much standard practice for endos. No cause for alarm. If=

there is one, it's probably benign and treatable.

Best,

Bruce

   

> A brief history:

>

> Vasecotomy with left testicle infection

> 6 months later ED sets in

> Since that time yearly T levels have been around 500 ng/dl (241-827)

> In June T was 308 and Free T was 46.9 (47-244), FSH was 0.3 mIU/ML

> (0.9-15.0), LH was 3.3 (1.3-12.9)

>

> Went to endo yesterday. He says testicles are fine or FSH would be

> high so T issue must stem from message sent from brain (i.e.,

> pituitary gland). He wants to draw T again to see if reading was

> anamolous and if it comes back in 300 range will call for MRI of

> pituitary.

>

> That was about it - he did say T replacement is needed if it is

> still low. Nothing about Clomid, etc. but we haven't gotten very

> far yet.

>

> Any comments from you more experienced sorts? Does he sound like he

> is following appropriate protocol?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

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  • 2 years later...

You need a better Dr. but I can give you links is she an Endo if so don't waste

your time find a better Dr. in the files section that is a file " Finding a Male

Hormone Dr. " here are some links. After all I was on TRT for 22 yrs. my testis

were the size of small grapes and they came back on HCG.

Go to this link and print out Dr. 's HCG update.

http://www.allthingsmale.com/Publications.html

And then show her this link.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/90/5/2595

Show her his on Arimidex for high E2.

http://www.medibolics.com/ArimidexBoostsTestosterone.htm

And this.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/3/1174

http://www.smart-drugs.com/ias-estrogen.htm

Phil

Hugh <hcarr2002@...> wrote:

Phil,

Had my first visit with an endo today, she said having been on

Androgel for 5 years, I was more than likely sterile as a result. She

doesn't want me on HCG unless I was looking for fertility help, and

said that she doubted she could " bring them back " from the atrophy

state they are in as a result of being on TRT for 5 years. I brought

up E2, Arimidex, Clomid, etc., but she shrugged them off for now.

Said I just need to live with " small ones " unless it was an extreme

barrier for me. I go for blood tests tomorrow to give her a baseline

on where I stand. Got any suggestions on discussions with her on my

second visit?

Hugh

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