Re: Re: What do these figures mean?

[Guest guest]

How long have you felt like shit I have Primary H and have had it for over 20

yrs. The first 5 yrs. the Dr.'s said it was all in my head so to keep my job I

had to see a head Dr. or shrink was pumped full of AD drugs and walked around in

a fog. So when they told me I had Low T. I was happy just knowing I was not

nuts.

Phil

steve5452 <steve5452@...> wrote:

Yes Brad I was diagnosed with Primary Hypogonadism, I would like to know how

long I have had it for too.

Message: 24

Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:23:50 -0000

From: brad999us

Subject: Re: What do these figures mean?

>

> Hello I have just got these results through and they mean nothing to

> me, are they very low?

>

> Testosterone of 5 but with elevated gonadotrophins with an LH of

> 22.7 and an FSH of 41.7

>

> This may as well be written in Russian as I have no idea what it

> means.

>

> Steve

Yes, it is probably a low reading. Was the test for free testosterone

levels or for total testosterone? It is helpful to have the units of

measure and the reference ranges before trying to interpret. I've

never seen LH and FSH that high in people not taking clomid. So my

guess would be that it is a low level that may indicate primary

hypogonadism.

See:

http://www.alt-support-impotence.org/hormone_charts.htm

Brad

[Guest guest]

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:23:50 -0000, you wrote:

>

>>

>> Hello I have just got these results through and they mean nothing to

>> me, are they very low?

>>

>> Testosterone of 5 but with elevated gonadotrophins with an LH of

>> 22.7 and an FSH of 41.7

>>

>> This may as well be written in Russian as I have no idea what it

>> means.

With low T and high LH and FSH it would indicate you may have primary

hypogonadism. That is the testes are not working. The pituitary is

sending out more and more LH and FSH try to order them to make more T,

but they are not up to it.

But another T test would be in order to confirm the first one. T

levels should be measured early in the morning - they are higher then.

They can drop by as much as 50% over the day.

You can confirm the primary hypo-g issue by taking hCG or Clomotrin to

push the testes harder to make T.

For T levels by age group see

http://www.alt-support-impotence.org/hormone_charts.htm

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Just another albino black sheep

[Guest guest]

Steve now that you are on TRT you will be fine and just stay here and post your

problems as they come up.

Phil

Steve <steve5452@...> wrote:

Hi Phil,

I feel much the same way as you, I have been on anti-depressants for

a while but now glad that the symptoms I described to the Dr are a

medical condition (Low T) and not just im my mind. I think that

seeing as a low T level can cause so many varied symptoms, that it

should have been tested for long ago, especially seeing as I have a

history of testicular problems.

That said there is no way of changing the past so its time to start

getting my life back and I hope that the Testogel works wonders.

Steve

> How long have you felt like shit I have Primary H and have had it

for over 20 yrs. The first 5 yrs. the Dr.'s said it was all in my

head so to keep my job I had to see a head Dr. or shrink was pumped

full of AD drugs and walked around in a fog. So when they told me I

had Low T. I was happy just knowing I was not nuts.

> Phil

>