Re: Dr. Crisler's transdermal TRT recommendation

[Guest guest]

Drake,

I've re-read the Dr. Crisler docs again and I cannot find where he

suggests 4 times a day. He did recommend at some dosages above 5g Gel

that BID (twice a day) might be appropriate. Can you include the text

in a post where he suggests 4 times a day from those documents? I've

never heard of gel being applied 4 times a day, it's either once a day

or twice a day.

> I was just re-reading some of the documentation in the Files

section.

> The documents regarding Dr. Crisler's recommendations for T

> replacement state that Androgel should be applied QD, or 4 times

> daily. Is that a typo?

>

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> Drake

[Guest guest]

Yes.

Phil

veganman23 <veganman23@...> wrote:

I was just re-reading some of the documentation in the Files section.

The documents regarding Dr. Crisler's recommendations for T

replacement state that Androgel should be applied QD, or 4 times

daily. Is that a typo?

Drake

[Guest guest]

Here is a link to his site at the bottom is his TRT:A Recipe for Success and his

HCG Update. Nothing in it that states this.

Phil

asaxon67 <no_reply > wrote:

Drake,

I've re-read the Dr. Crisler docs again and I cannot find where he

suggests 4 times a day. He did recommend at some dosages above 5g Gel

that BID (twice a day) might be appropriate. Can you include the text

in a post where he suggests 4 times a day from those documents? I've

never heard of gel being applied 4 times a day, it's either once a day

or twice a day.

> I was just re-reading some of the documentation in the Files

section.

> The documents regarding Dr. Crisler's recommendations for T

> replacement state that Androgel should be applied QD, or 4 times

> daily. Is that a typo?

>

>

> Drake

[Guest guest]

Sorry here is the link.

http://www.allthingsmale.com/

Phil

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

Here is a link to his site at the bottom is his TRT:A Recipe for Success and his

HCG Update. Nothing in it that states this.

Phil

asaxon67 <no_reply > wrote:

Drake,

I've re-read the Dr. Crisler docs again and I cannot find where he

suggests 4 times a day. He did recommend at some dosages above 5g Gel

that BID (twice a day) might be appropriate. Can you include the text

in a post where he suggests 4 times a day from those documents? I've

never heard of gel being applied 4 times a day, it's either once a day

or twice a day.

> I was just re-reading some of the documentation in the Files

section.

> The documents regarding Dr. Crisler's recommendations for T

> replacement state that Androgel should be applied QD, or 4 times

> daily. Is that a typo?

>

>

> Drake

[Guest guest]

I went to the Files on this Egroup, and looked at TRT.doc posted in

July 2005. It states:

" I start my guys out on either testosterone cream/gel 5mgs QD or

testosterone cypionate 100mg per week. The IM test cyp must be

administered in weekly injections, as opposed to taking twice the

dosage every other week. Some physicians even dose every third or

fourth week, producing wide swings in serum androgen levels. This

puts the patient on an emotional roller coaster, increases the risk

of developing polycythemia, greatly accentuates aromatase activity,

and actually leaves them lower than they were when they started for

the last half of the cycle. In order to get the serum androgen

concentration to a stable level more quickly, I " frontload " 200mg

the first injection (unless converting over from a gel/cream). "

> > I was just re-reading some of the documentation in the Files

> section.

> > The documents regarding Dr. Crisler's recommendations for T

> > replacement state that Androgel should be applied QD, or 4 times

> > daily. Is that a typo?

> >

> >

> > Drake

[Guest guest]

qd means every day

http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle.php/article1344.html

Brad

> > > I was just re-reading some of the documentation in the Files

> > section.

> > > The documents regarding Dr. Crisler's recommendations for T

> > > replacement state that Androgel should be applied QD, or 4 times

> > > daily. Is that a typo?

> > >

> > >

> > > Drake

[Guest guest]

Thanks Brad -

the sites I was looking at said it meant 4x a day. They must have

been wrong.

Drake

> > > > I was just re-reading some of the documentation in the Files

> > > section.

> > > > The documents regarding Dr. Crisler's recommendations for T

> > > > replacement state that Androgel should be applied QD, or 4

times

> > > > daily. Is that a typo?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Drake

[Guest guest]

qd means every day------

The confusion lies in the similarity between QID (4 times daily) and

QD which apparently does mean " every day " .

I'm more familiar with the 3-digit abbreviations:

SID: once a day

BID: twice a day

TID: 3 times per day

and QID: 4 times a day

They're easy to remember. I'm not well versed in latin, but the roots

spill into other languages or else coincide with synonymous

terminology:

S=single, B=bi, T=tri, Q=quad

[Guest guest]

Phil;

If I remember correctly, when Dr uses QD it means everyday.

Kissie

Re: Dr. Crisler's transdermal TRT recommendation

Yes.

Phil

veganman23 <veganman23@...> wrote:

I was just re-reading some of the documentation in the Files section.

The documents regarding Dr. Crisler's recommendations for T

replacement state that Androgel should be applied QD, or 4 times

daily. Is that a typo?

Drake

[Guest guest]

It does but from talking to him and reading his posts it has to be a typo. He

does this sometimes we all do.

Phil

kissie2004@... wrote:

Phil;

If I remember correctly, when Dr uses QD it means everyday.

Kissie

Re: Dr. Crisler's transdermal TRT recommendation

Yes.

Phil

veganman23 <veganman23@...> wrote:

I was just re-reading some of the documentation in the Files section.

The documents regarding Dr. Crisler's recommendations for T

replacement state that Androgel should be applied QD, or 4 times

daily. Is that a typo?

Drake

[Guest guest]

It's not a typo, QD stands for once a day.

(See " http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/hl/sp/home/alert01132

005.jsp " for a list of Rx shorthand). I don't think he would make

the same typo in three or four places throughout the document. He's

actually using the abbreviation correctly.

> I was just re-reading some of the documentation in the Files

section.

> The documents regarding Dr. Crisler's recommendations for T

> replacement state that Androgel should be applied QD, or 4 times

> daily. Is that a typo?

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> Drake

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[Guest guest]

Phil,

It is not a typo.

Doctor hasd it right.

QD means once a day, not " four times daily " ....

Larry

> I was just re-reading some of the documentation in the Files

section.

> The documents regarding Dr. Crisler's recommendations for T

> replacement state that Androgel should be applied QD, or 4 times

> daily. Is that a typo?

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> Drake

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[Guest guest]

Your right I was stuck on the 4 times a day.

Phil

asaxon67 <no_reply > wrote:

It's not a typo, QD stands for once a day.

(See " http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/hl/sp/home/alert01132

005.jsp " for a list of Rx shorthand). I don't think he would make

the same typo in three or four places throughout the document. He's

actually using the abbreviation correctly.

> I was just re-reading some of the documentation in the Files

section.

> The documents regarding Dr. Crisler's recommendations for T

> replacement state that Androgel should be applied QD, or 4 times

> daily. Is that a typo?

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