Re: Does a zapper cleanse Candida overgrowth?

[Guest guest]

If only it were that easy....

My experience with the zapper and candida has been that the zapper helps

to keep some aspects of the candida in check.

IMO, on it's own it is not capable of winning the war.

Also, I've never seen an army comprised of one weapon either...

So much of the battle with candida can occur within the intestinal track

beyond the reach of a normal zapper....

That said, I believe it helps me as an addition to my arsenal of

weapons...grrrr...LOL

Khepri

debnjohn93@... wrote:

> Does anyone have any experience with a zapper getting rid of yeast

> overgrowth? I am battling a yeast infection that I've had for years and was

> made worse after taking prescription steroid prescribed by a doctor. I am

> on the yeast cleansing diet which is difficult and would like to increase my

> speed of getting rid of this awful candida overgrowth.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Deborah

>

[Guest guest]

I know Dr. said in her first book that most candida can be killed

off by zapping daily for a month. It doesn't work, though. At least not

for systemic infections. It will, however, help alleviate sinus problems

and skin irritations due to yeast, but since candida's overgrowth starts in

the colon, you can never rid yourself of overgrown yeast from zapping alone.

The current simply cannot penetrate the intestines, stomach or eyes.

Therefore anything living within these are safe from zapping. It is a very

difficult and there are a wide-spectrum of things that must be done to keep

candida in check. Either way, use it every day and notice the difference,

but as far as a cure-all goes, it's not going to happen. Raw garlic and

grapefruit seed extract are excellent antifungals as well as Nystatin and

Diflucan if you can convince your doctor that you need it. These are what

will put a hurting on the yeast itself. Just make sure you cover all of the

other bases as there are plenty more to cover before you will be healthy

again. Your immune system should keep candida in check...fix the problem

preventing this or else it will recur every time.

There is another method called plate zapping. This will reach anywhere

provided you have the correct tissue sample and a syncrometer. You can read

about this in her later books.

Ken

-- Does a zapper cleanse candida overgrowth?

Does anyone have any experience with a zapper getting rid of yeast

overgrowth? I am battling a yeast infection that I've had for years and was

made worse after taking prescription steroid prescribed by a doctor. I am

on the yeast cleansing diet which is difficult and would like to increase my

speed of getting rid of this awful candida overgrowth.

Thanks,

Deborah

[Guest guest]

In order to clear out Candida you have to be on strict Candida diet.

Nystatin and Diflucan will not help you. It will only mask the symptoms but

you'll never be Candida free. I know this because I've been down that road.

I know a good site were you can get some basics on were to start, they also

have forum so you could use it to ask direct questions. I was following the

instructions giving there and so far have not hade any problems with my

Candida.

Wish you all the best Deborah,

Iva

-- Does a zapper cleanse candida overgrowth?

Does anyone have any experience with a zapper getting rid of yeast

overgrowth? I am battling a yeast infection that I've had for years and was

made worse after taking prescription steroid prescribed by a doctor. I am

on the yeast cleansing diet which is difficult and would like to increase my

speed of getting rid of this awful candida overgrowth.

Thanks,

Deborah

[Guest guest]

I agree completely with Iva. Nystatin and Diflucan dont do anything

permanent for us here--they just offer temporary assistance if you

have a systemic yeast issue.

I used to have a great yeast fighting diet bookmarked but I got a

new computer and would have to dig it up for you. STill, here are

some guidelines:

The Anti-Candida Diet. AVOID:

Yeast, Bread and Pastries

All fermented products

Alcohol and all fermented drinks

Sugar and all sweet things

White Flour In All Forms

Malted Products

Citrus Fruit Juices

Many Vitamin Products

Milk and milk products

Processed and Smoked Meats and Fish

Dried and Candied Fruits

Melons, Ripe Bananas and Grapes

Mushrooms and all fungi

Cheeses + things made with a fermentation process

Certain Nuts

Foods Going Stale

Processed Foods

Drugs which promote the growth of yeasts - steroids, antibiotics,

the contraceptive pill

Coffee and tea

Mould, Mildew and Damp conditions

OTHER WAYS to Combat Candida:

Grapefruit seed extract such as Citricidal or nutribiotic (I put the

liquid form of Nutribiotic in empty capsules from Self Health).

Camomile has antifungal properties.

Rooibosch (Redbush) tea.

Aloe Vera has antifungal action and promotes healthy intestinal

flora.

Pau D'Arco has strong anti-candida effects and is anti-inflammatory.

Tea Tree Oil has strong anti-fungal properties.

Oxygen Therapies can also help control candida.

Caprystatin. This is very dilute caprylic acid (coconut extract).

Caprylic acid. Used successfully to treat severe intestinal candida

in a form which allows a timed release so it is not absorbed in the

upper intestinal tract. This may not suit you if you are sensitive

to coconut.

Colonic Irrigation. This is the administration of water into the

bowel, sometimes with other substances such as acidophilus, garlic

extract, or oxygen. Debris is flushed from the region and the

additives can greatly reduce candida and improve bowel health.

Enemas. These are less effective as they don't penetrate as far as

colonics. Both need to be given by experts.

Also, I really like Candex which is an enzyme that targets yeast.

The probiotic formula 3Lac has also helped us as has Olive Leaf

extract.

Systemic yeast is so hard to overcome but it can be done. Good luck!

Lorna

>

> In order to clear out Candida you have to be on strict Candida

diet.

> Nystatin and Diflucan will not help you. It will only mask the

symptoms but

> you'll never be Candida free. I know this because I've been down

that road.

>

> I know a good site were you can get some basics on were to start,

they also

> have forum so you could use it to ask direct questions. I was

following the

> instructions giving there and so far have not hade any problems

with my

> Candida.

>

> Wish you all the best Deborah,

>

> Iva

>

>

> -- Does a zapper cleanse candida overgrowth?

>

> Does anyone have any experience with a zapper getting rid of yeast

> overgrowth? I am battling a yeast infection that I've had for

years and was

>

> made worse after taking prescription steroid prescribed by a

doctor. I am

> on the yeast cleansing diet which is difficult and would like to

increase my

>

> speed of getting rid of this awful candida overgrowth.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Deborah

>

>

[Guest guest]

lornabeaverman wrote:

> The Anti-Candida Diet. AVOID:

>

> All fermented products

> Alcohol and all fermented drinks

I cannot bring myself to agree with this.

See Dr. Jordin Rubin

The benefits bestowed by yogurt, kefir, sauerkraut, non-GMO miso,

non-GMO tempeh, kimchee, indeed any fermented vegetable...

The probiotics and enzymes provided by these foods far outweigh any

possible negative effects for most people...

Also, we're talking about REAL yogurt and kefir (lacto) as one would

make themselves or find at a health food store and NOT the commercial

garbage one would find at a regular grocery...those add sugar to sweeten

which of course feeds the candida...

The sugars are consumed during fermentation.

Alcohol, even though fermented should be avoided because the body turns

the alcohol into sugar.

Avoid yeast and mold containing foods, and aged foods as these can

stimulate the yeast growth. These include alcohol, vinegar and all foods

that contain vinegar like mustard, salad dressings and mayonnaise;

yeast-containing foods like leavened bread; mold-containing foods like

peanuts and corn; and aged foods like cheeses.

Basically we're talking foods fermented by yeast/fungi VS. foods

fermented by bacteria, such as the soy, milk and veggies...

Khepri

[Guest guest]

Adding my .02 at the risk of being flamed. ;-)

First, Jordan Rubin is a salesman now. Sure there's a lot to learn

from his books, and generally speaking I'm a fan, but he is making a

huge profit from his products. Let's not be too naive. A while ago,

someone on this list or the other list posted that some of the

formulas he sells (Garden of Life sells) were not exactly those from

which he himself benefitted but were instead modified much to the

chagrin of the original manufacturer. Does anyone remember that? It

may have been one of the Bolens, but I cannot recall exactly. I've

been on this list a long time, so this could have occurred years

ago. It stuck in my head though (partially! LOL). Jordan Rubin's

protocol is not curing autism, so he is not a deity to me and I

cannot hang on his every word. One of the protocols he snubs in

Maker's Diet, namely the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, has cured some

autistic children however. To me, the bottom line is that everyone

is different, and you really have to figure out what's best for your

particular condition.

Second, a parent of an autistic child who posts on another

group in which I participate had the contents of her Primal Defense

tested by an independent lab within this past year and those tests

revealed that the product contained lead. Some of us parents of

autistic children tend to be maniacs about what is contained in the

products we give our children because their detoxification pathways

are completely shot.

Finally, as for our experience, I tried Primal Defense on myself and

my autistic offspring (this was almost 3 years ago) and I did not

see any benefit. Nada. No improvement whatsoever. We use other

probiotics now.

Lorna (who works on her candida problem without Kefir or any dairy

or casein containing food items due to allergy)

> > > That completely undermines Jordans arguement that our soil is

depleted

> > > of these organisms today in relation to levels in the soil of

the

> > > past. Hence it would not be " unnatural " . In fact it would be

the

> > > opposite, a return to a normal state.

> >

> > I don't intend to undermine Jordan's contention, but I have seen

> > no evidence of soil depletion of SBOs.

>

>

> Are you implying he made it up?

>

>

> > Your statements seem to imply that his product is untested,

which it

> > > is not; unsafe, which it apparently is not (I could only find

one

> > > complaint froma user of the product in my light search, and

even his

> > > complaint was highly questionable and was challeged on the

board at

> > > Curezone); and unnatrual, which it apparently is not...

> >

> > Primal Defense is being currently tested on the population at

> > large in a similar manner to drugs that are rushed to market now,

> > with the big pay-outs to injured parties to come later when the

> > injuries become apparent.

>

>

>

> That is the problem I'm having with your statements. That

is " opinion " and

> not " fact " of the gravest order.

>

> Damn near slanderous. So when the company says they have done

internal

> studies and testing on the product you are calling them liars?

>

> With respect, there are potential dangers, and sure enough, the

> > problematic B. Licheniformis, one potential danger, has you say

> > been removed before the class actions start, not at all unlike

> > the recalls seen in drugs.

> >

> > Duncan Crow

> >

>

> You have evidence that a class action suit was being put together

and that

> their discontinuing of the by-product was a direct result of that?

>

> Libelous.

>

> BTW, the reply came;

>

> " Dear Idris,

> Thank you for your email and the chance to respond to your question

> about the safety of Primal Defense. Unfortunately some information

is

> being spread without actually knowing the facts. They assume the

> bacterial species B. lichenformis is found in the product Primal

> Defense, we do use that organism. What we do use is an enzyme

obtained

> from that species which is totally different. The final product

contains

> no B. Lichenformis and therefore is not on the Supplement Facts

part of

> the Primal Defense Label. We are confident in the safety of our

> products, Primal Defense in particular, and welcome your inquiry.

> Perhaps you would be so kind as to pass this information on please

feel

> free to share this so that they have the truth and the accurate

facts

> about Primal Defense. Thank you for your support and the chance to

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