Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 If you are going to go to HCG alone, just go for it. It will start working immediately. It will take you a little while to get in the groove though. But no matter what you do, you need to manage your estradiol. Estradiol will almost definitely continue to be a problem while on HCG alone. Arimidex is the tool that I use. Some men, like Zolt, manage their estradiol using DIM while on low dose HCG. Armyguy > Endo appointment moved from Thurs to this upcoming Monday. > > I had been taking a 300mg cypionate shot every two weeks, and 500iu hcg 3x > week. Although, with HCG I noticed a lot of bloating and skipped a few shots and > made a few only about 300iu. > > After the first 300mg shot I didn't feel a spike from the depression I was > feeling two weeks after my previous 200mg shot. Then a day later we went to HCG > and it made a positive impact. The second 300mg shot was incredible, it was > like the old me before I got sick. The feeling last for 7 days but the next > seven days were quite long and unhappy. Also, I had to watch the HCG because of > bloating. A few days back I took my third 300mg shot and it didn't have much of > an effect at all. > > Thinking I obviously have the estradiol problem. However, now I am thinking > maybe I should just go to HCG. If so, how long on HCG before it works on its > own? I have been on TRT for about 4.5 months. If I drop the T and go straight to > HCG 500iu/eod plus Arimidex, are we talking a few weeks to feel better or > does HCG work really fast on its own? > > Thanks, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 > But no matter what you do, you need to manage your estradiol. > Estradiol will almost definitely continue to be a problem while on > HCG alone. Arimidex is the tool that I use. Some men, like > Zolt, manage their estradiol using DIM while on low dose HCG. And some men, like me, go on HCG and have zero problems with estradiol or other forms of estrogen. The point is, do the bloodwork before you self-diagnosis. Dex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Agreed, blood work is critical. Curious, if you were on HCG and did not have nay problelms with estradiol, why did you not stay with HCG alone? Armyguy > > > But no matter what you do, you need to manage your estradiol. > > Estradiol will almost definitely continue to be a problem while on > > HCG alone. Arimidex is the tool that I use. Some men, like > > Zolt, manage their estradiol using DIM while on low dose HCG. > > And some men, like me, go on HCG and have zero problems with estradiol or other forms > of estrogen. The point is, do the bloodwork before you self- diagnosis. > > Dex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 > Agreed, blood work is critical. Curious, if you were on HCG and did > not have nay problelms with estradiol, why did you not stay with HCG > alone? That's easy... it didn't get my T levels up to where they needed to be. HCG gave me excellent subjective results for the first month or two. Then I noticed a decline in effectiveness. My T levels were in the low 700s with HCG. My doctor suggested I try actual TRT to see if there was any improvement. I started full TRT with T-cypionate, which got my T levels into the low 900s, a very comfortable level for me. I occasionally return to HCG for a few weeks. Switching between the two therapies seems to produce a boost in benefits for me, but this is purely subjective. Dex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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