Guest guest Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Flaco I would drop the Soy Shakes using that much Soy will drive up your Estrogens levels not your E2 but Soy is not good for a man to take. I don't have the study in my files but if you did a search you will find that doing soy is not good. Have your E2 and Total E tested if they are high this can keep you Total and Free T down. Phil rndchemist <rndchemist@...> wrote:This is Flaco reporting again! It has been a while since I have posted or checked the site. I have been very busy at work and been feeling well for the most part. Recently, I have been feeling tired at the end of the day. I thought it had to do with my allergies, but this year they are under control with my treatments. For background info: I am 47 years old on 5 g/day of Androgel. I went to my Int. Med. doctor and she first suspected it was my thyroid (I used to be hyper, and she thought I may be going hypo). She ordered CBC, Free T4 & TSH and T & free T. These were the results: CBC - normal across the board T4 - 1.3 ng/dL Range: 0.9 to 1.8 (normal) TSH - 0.28 MIU/ml Range: 0.35 - 5.50 (low, but because of the T4 value this is acceptable). T - 654 ng/dL Range 260 to 1000 Free T - 18.2 ng/dL Range 8.3 to 35.1 % Free T - 0.3 Range 0.2 to 0.6. So she said it must be stress related. Last year, after I have been missusing the Androgel for almost 3 years, I had a imbalance of T/E ratio. Once I started using the Androgel accordingly, my symptoms improved. Two weeks after starting the Andro correctly, these were my results (from memory): T - 697 % T (free) - 0.3 E - 24 (I think) What concerns me is my % Free T has not improved in a year even after 1- I started using Andro correctly 2- Take soy protein shakes every day 3- Take 65 mg of Zinc/day 4- Do not drink nor smoke. Am I over reacting or is there something I am missing? Thanks! Flaco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Phil: Thanks for your reply! Soy is a controversial item. Some praise it and others the opposite. Dr. Shippen in his book recommends it to control the estrogen levels. Dr. Sippen states that the phytoestrogens in soy, a chemical with similar chemical structure as human estrogen but about 1/500 of the potency of estradiol, compete for the same receptors in the human body as human estrogens. Therefore, if the receptors are filled with the phytoestrogens, instead of the human estrogens, the excess of human estrogens get eliminated. I will switch to a non-soy based protein shake and see what happens. I want to try everything before I ask my doctor to increase my Andro. Thanks! Flaco This is Flaco reporting again! > > It has been a while since I have posted or checked the site. I have > been very busy at work and been feeling well for the most part. > > Recently, I have been feeling tired at the end of the day. I thought > it had to do with my allergies, but this year they are under control > with my treatments. > > For background info: I am 47 years old on 5 g/day of Androgel. > > I went to my Int. Med. doctor and she first suspected it was my > thyroid (I used to be hyper, and she thought I may be going hypo). > She ordered CBC, Free T4 & TSH and T & free T. > > These were the results: > > CBC - normal across the board > > T4 - 1.3 ng/dL Range: 0.9 to 1.8 (normal) > TSH - 0.28 MIU/ml Range: 0.35 - 5.50 (low, but because of the T4 > value this is acceptable). > > T - 654 ng/dL Range 260 to 1000 > Free T - 18.2 ng/dL Range 8.3 to 35.1 > % Free T - 0.3 Range 0.2 to 0.6. > > So she said it must be stress related. > > Last year, after I have been missusing the Androgel for almost 3 > years, I had a imbalance of T/E ratio. Once I started using the > Androgel accordingly, my symptoms improved. Two weeks after starting > the Andro correctly, these were my results (from memory): > > T - 697 > % T (free) - 0.3 > E - 24 (I think) > > What concerns me is my % Free T has not improved in a year even after > 1- I started using Andro correctly > 2- Take soy protein shakes every day > 3- Take 65 mg of Zinc/day > 4- Do not drink nor smoke. > > Am I over reacting or is there something I am missing? > > Thanks! > > Flaco. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 At the time he wrote the book it was the thinking but now we know that E taking the space in the cells keeps the T for getting there. The brain can't tell the difference between E and T so if you cells are full of Soy E then you T meds are going down the drain. So Yes try not taking soy I talk to a guy in the Bahamas that was having trouble with ED and felt like he had low T. I asked him about him self and he said he drank a lot of Soy Milk. I told him to try taking Indolplex/DIM to see if he would help. He can't get a blood test to tell if he has low T or high E2. So he E-mailed me that he got the Indolplex/DIM and his morning wood came back and he is not back to his old self. He stoped taking the Indolplex/DIM and the Soy milk. The last time I talked to him he is still doing great. Phil rndchemist <rndchemist@...> wrote: Phil: Thanks for your reply! Soy is a controversial item. Some praise it and others the opposite. Dr. Shippen in his book recommends it to control the estrogen levels. Dr. Sippen states that the phytoestrogens in soy, a chemical with similar chemical structure as human estrogen but about 1/500 of the potency of estradiol, compete for the same receptors in the human body as human estrogens. Therefore, if the receptors are filled with the phytoestrogens, instead of the human estrogens, the excess of human estrogens get eliminated. I will switch to a non-soy based protein shake and see what happens. I want to try everything before I ask my doctor to increase my Andro. Thanks! Flaco This is Flaco reporting again! > > It has been a while since I have posted or checked the site. I have > been very busy at work and been feeling well for the most part. > > Recently, I have been feeling tired at the end of the day. I thought > it had to do with my allergies, but this year they are under control > with my treatments. > > For background info: I am 47 years old on 5 g/day of Androgel. > > I went to my Int. Med. doctor and she first suspected it was my > thyroid (I used to be hyper, and she thought I may be going hypo). > She ordered CBC, Free T4 & TSH and T & free T. > > These were the results: > > CBC - normal across the board > > T4 - 1.3 ng/dL Range: 0.9 to 1.8 (normal) > TSH - 0.28 MIU/ml Range: 0.35 - 5.50 (low, but because of the T4 > value this is acceptable). > > T - 654 ng/dL Range 260 to 1000 > Free T - 18.2 ng/dL Range 8.3 to 35.1 > % Free T - 0.3 Range 0.2 to 0.6. > > So she said it must be stress related. > > Last year, after I have been missusing the Androgel for almost 3 > years, I had a imbalance of T/E ratio. Once I started using the > Androgel accordingly, my symptoms improved. Two weeks after starting > the Andro correctly, these were my results (from memory): > > T - 697 > % T (free) - 0.3 > E - 24 (I think) > > What concerns me is my % Free T has not improved in a year even after > 1- I started using Andro correctly > 2- Take soy protein shakes every day > 3- Take 65 mg of Zinc/day > 4- Do not drink nor smoke. > > Am I over reacting or is there something I am missing? > > Thanks! > > Flaco. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Just to go along with this theme, some articles and info for ya'.... http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html#articles http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/isoflavones.html Larry P.S. While Dr. Shippen was a great innovator for his time, and really helped start the push for Male TRT (and to get what little did exist out of the Dark Ages), his book was written in something like 1997 or 1998 (???) and a considerable amount of information has been found since then. Some by trial-and-error, some by research and some by advanced clinical studies. Like with DIM or with HcG or whatever, it is important to realize that progress IS eventually made, on one front here and another front there. A new product emerges. Some new therapy protcol is developed. Use of a natural hormone (possibly progesterone?) in TRT is found to be better at dertain things. Older recommendations are found to have some " pesky " (or sometimes serious) problems, etc., etc. This is Flaco reporting again! > > > > It has been a while since I have posted or checked the site. I > have > > been very busy at work and been feeling well for the most part. > > > > Recently, I have been feeling tired at the end of the day. I > thought > > it had to do with my allergies, but this year they are under > control > > with my treatments. > > > > For background info: I am 47 years old on 5 g/day of Androgel. > > > > I went to my Int. Med. doctor and she first suspected it was my > > thyroid (I used to be hyper, and she thought I may be going hypo). > > She ordered CBC, Free T4 & TSH and T & free T. > > > > These were the results: > > > > CBC - normal across the board > > > > T4 - 1.3 ng/dL Range: 0.9 to 1.8 (normal) > > TSH - 0.28 MIU/ml Range: 0.35 - 5.50 (low, but because of the T4 > > value this is acceptable). > > > > T - 654 ng/dL Range 260 to 1000 > > Free T - 18.2 ng/dL Range 8.3 to 35.1 > > % Free T - 0.3 Range 0.2 to 0.6. > > > > So she said it must be stress related. > > > > Last year, after I have been missusing the Androgel for almost 3 > > years, I had a imbalance of T/E ratio. Once I started using the > > Androgel accordingly, my symptoms improved. Two weeks after > starting > > the Andro correctly, these were my results (from memory): > > > > T - 697 > > % T (free) - 0.3 > > E - 24 (I think) > > > > What concerns me is my % Free T has not improved in a year even > after > > 1- I started using Andro correctly > > 2- Take soy protein shakes every day > > 3- Take 65 mg of Zinc/day > > 4- Do not drink nor smoke. > > > > Am I over reacting or is there something I am missing? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Flaco. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Dam good post Larry you are a big help to this group. Thanks Phil lrs1951 <stat1951@...> wrote: Just to go along with this theme, some articles and info for ya'.... http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html#articles http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/isoflavones.html Larry P.S. While Dr. Shippen was a great innovator for his time, and really helped start the push for Male TRT (and to get what little did exist out of the Dark Ages), his book was written in something like 1997 or 1998 (???) and a considerable amount of information has been found since then. Some by trial-and-error, some by research and some by advanced clinical studies. Like with DIM or with HcG or whatever, it is important to realize that progress IS eventually made, on one front here and another front there. A new product emerges. Some new therapy protcol is developed. Use of a natural hormone (possibly progesterone?) in TRT is found to be better at dertain things. Older recommendations are found to have some " pesky " (or sometimes serious) problems, etc., etc. This is Flaco reporting again! > > > > It has been a while since I have posted or checked the site. I > have > > been very busy at work and been feeling well for the most part. > > > > Recently, I have been feeling tired at the end of the day. I > thought > > it had to do with my allergies, but this year they are under > control > > with my treatments. > > > > For background info: I am 47 years old on 5 g/day of Androgel. > > > > I went to my Int. Med. doctor and she first suspected it was my > > thyroid (I used to be hyper, and she thought I may be going hypo). > > She ordered CBC, Free T4 & TSH and T & free T. > > > > These were the results: > > > > CBC - normal across the board > > > > T4 - 1.3 ng/dL Range: 0.9 to 1.8 (normal) > > TSH - 0.28 MIU/ml Range: 0.35 - 5.50 (low, but because of the T4 > > value this is acceptable). > > > > T - 654 ng/dL Range 260 to 1000 > > Free T - 18.2 ng/dL Range 8.3 to 35.1 > > % Free T - 0.3 Range 0.2 to 0.6. > > > > So she said it must be stress related. > > > > Last year, after I have been missusing the Androgel for almost 3 > > years, I had a imbalance of T/E ratio. Once I started using the > > Androgel accordingly, my symptoms improved. Two weeks after > starting > > the Andro correctly, these were my results (from memory): > > > > T - 697 > > % T (free) - 0.3 > > E - 24 (I think) > > > > What concerns me is my % Free T has not improved in a year even > after > > 1- I started using Andro correctly > > 2- Take soy protein shakes every day > > 3- Take 65 mg of Zinc/day > > 4- Do not drink nor smoke. > > > > Am I over reacting or is there something I am missing? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Flaco. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Larry & : Thanks! And for the articles too! Yesterday I stopped the soy protein powder and started on Whey protein powder. Even though I am lactose intolerant, and whey is a milk constituent product rich in lactose, I will continue to use it (all I have to do is take more lactase tablets). I will keep you posted of my progress. Flaco. This is Flaco reporting again! > > > > > > It has been a while since I have posted or checked the site. I > > have > > > been very busy at work and been feeling well for the most part. > > > > > > Recently, I have been feeling tired at the end of the day. I > > thought > > > it had to do with my allergies, but this year they are under > > control > > > with my treatments. > > > > > > For background info: I am 47 years old on 5 g/day of Androgel. > > > > > > I went to my Int. Med. doctor and she first suspected it was my > > > thyroid (I used to be hyper, and she thought I may be going hypo). > > > She ordered CBC, Free T4 & TSH and T & free T. > > > > > > These were the results: > > > > > > CBC - normal across the board > > > > > > T4 - 1.3 ng/dL Range: 0.9 to 1.8 (normal) > > > TSH - 0.28 MIU/ml Range: 0.35 - 5.50 (low, but because of the T4 > > > value this is acceptable). > > > > > > T - 654 ng/dL Range 260 to 1000 > > > Free T - 18.2 ng/dL Range 8.3 to 35.1 > > > % Free T - 0.3 Range 0.2 to 0.6. > > > > > > So she said it must be stress related. > > > > > > Last year, after I have been missusing the Androgel for almost 3 > > > years, I had a imbalance of T/E ratio. Once I started using the > > > Androgel accordingly, my symptoms improved. Two weeks after > > starting > > > the Andro correctly, these were my results (from memory): > > > > > > T - 697 > > > % T (free) - 0.3 > > > E - 24 (I think) > > > > > > What concerns me is my % Free T has not improved in a year even > > after > > > 1- I started using Andro correctly > > > 2- Take soy protein shakes every day > > > 3- Take 65 mg of Zinc/day > > > 4- Do not drink nor smoke. > > > > > > Am I over reacting or is there something I am missing? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Flaco. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Still you need to have your E2 tested on every Test and if you find your high take some DIM. Phil rndchemist <rndchemist@...> wrote: Larry & : Thanks! And for the articles too! Yesterday I stopped the soy protein powder and started on Whey protein powder. Even though I am lactose intolerant, and whey is a milk constituent product rich in lactose, I will continue to use it (all I have to do is take more lactase tablets). I will keep you posted of my progress. Flaco. This is Flaco reporting again! > > > > > > It has been a while since I have posted or checked the site. I > > have > > > been very busy at work and been feeling well for the most part. > > > > > > Recently, I have been feeling tired at the end of the day. I > > thought > > > it had to do with my allergies, but this year they are under > > control > > > with my treatments. > > > > > > For background info: I am 47 years old on 5 g/day of Androgel. > > > > > > I went to my Int. Med. doctor and she first suspected it was my > > > thyroid (I used to be hyper, and she thought I may be going hypo). > > > She ordered CBC, Free T4 & TSH and T & free T. > > > > > > These were the results: > > > > > > CBC - normal across the board > > > > > > T4 - 1.3 ng/dL Range: 0.9 to 1.8 (normal) > > > TSH - 0.28 MIU/ml Range: 0.35 - 5.50 (low, but because of the T4 > > > value this is acceptable). > > > > > > T - 654 ng/dL Range 260 to 1000 > > > Free T - 18.2 ng/dL Range 8.3 to 35.1 > > > % Free T - 0.3 Range 0.2 to 0.6. > > > > > > So she said it must be stress related. > > > > > > Last year, after I have been missusing the Androgel for almost 3 > > > years, I had a imbalance of T/E ratio. Once I started using the > > > Androgel accordingly, my symptoms improved. Two weeks after > > starting > > > the Andro correctly, these were my results (from memory): > > > > > > T - 697 > > > % T (free) - 0.3 > > > E - 24 (I think) > > > > > > What concerns me is my % Free T has not improved in a year even > > after > > > 1- I started using Andro correctly > > > 2- Take soy protein shakes every day > > > 3- Take 65 mg of Zinc/day > > > 4- Do not drink nor smoke. > > > > > > Am I over reacting or is there something I am missing? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Flaco. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Phill: What is DIM? Flaco This is Flaco reporting > again! > > > > > > > > It has been a while since I have posted or checked the site. I > > > have > > > > been very busy at work and been feeling well for the most part. > > > > > > > > Recently, I have been feeling tired at the end of the day. I > > > thought > > > > it had to do with my allergies, but this year they are under > > > control > > > > with my treatments. > > > > > > > > For background info: I am 47 years old on 5 g/day of Androgel. > > > > > > > > I went to my Int. Med. doctor and she first suspected it was my > > > > thyroid (I used to be hyper, and she thought I may be going > hypo). > > > > She ordered CBC, Free T4 & TSH and T & free T. > > > > > > > > These were the results: > > > > > > > > CBC - normal across the board > > > > > > > > T4 - 1.3 ng/dL Range: 0.9 to 1.8 (normal) > > > > TSH - 0.28 MIU/ml Range: 0.35 - 5.50 (low, but because of the > T4 > > > > value this is acceptable). > > > > > > > > T - 654 ng/dL Range 260 to 1000 > > > > Free T - 18.2 ng/dL Range 8.3 to 35.1 > > > > % Free T - 0.3 Range 0.2 to 0.6. > > > > > > > > So she said it must be stress related. > > > > > > > > Last year, after I have been missusing the Androgel for almost > 3 > > > > years, I had a imbalance of T/E ratio. Once I started using > the > > > > Androgel accordingly, my symptoms improved. Two weeks after > > > starting > > > > the Andro correctly, these were my results (from memory): > > > > > > > > T - 697 > > > > % T (free) - 0.3 > > > > E - 24 (I think) > > > > > > > > What concerns me is my % Free T has not improved in a year even > > > after > > > > 1- I started using Andro correctly > > > > 2- Take soy protein shakes every day > > > > 3- Take 65 mg of Zinc/day > > > > 4- Do not drink nor smoke. > > > > > > > > Am I over reacting or is there something I am missing? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Flaco. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Here is a link on it. http://www.dimfaq.com/index.htm I take Indolplex/DIM to keep my E2 Estradiol down. http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html Phil rndchemist <rndchemist@...> wrote: Phill: What is DIM? Flaco This is Flaco reporting > again! > > > > > > > > It has been a while since I have posted or checked the site. I > > > have > > > > been very busy at work and been feeling well for the most part. > > > > > > > > Recently, I have been feeling tired at the end of the day. I > > > thought > > > > it had to do with my allergies, but this year they are under > > > control > > > > with my treatments. > > > > > > > > For background info: I am 47 years old on 5 g/day of Androgel. > > > > > > > > I went to my Int. Med. doctor and she first suspected it was my > > > > thyroid (I used to be hyper, and she thought I may be going > hypo). > > > > She ordered CBC, Free T4 & TSH and T & free T. > > > > > > > > These were the results: > > > > > > > > CBC - normal across the board > > > > > > > > T4 - 1.3 ng/dL Range: 0.9 to 1.8 (normal) > > > > TSH - 0.28 MIU/ml Range: 0.35 - 5.50 (low, but because of the > T4 > > > > value this is acceptable). > > > > > > > > T - 654 ng/dL Range 260 to 1000 > > > > Free T - 18.2 ng/dL Range 8.3 to 35.1 > > > > % Free T - 0.3 Range 0.2 to 0.6. > > > > > > > > So she said it must be stress related. > > > > > > > > Last year, after I have been missusing the Androgel for almost > 3 > > > > years, I had a imbalance of T/E ratio. Once I started using > the > > > > Androgel accordingly, my symptoms improved. Two weeks after > > > starting > > > > the Andro correctly, these were my results (from memory): > > > > > > > > T - 697 > > > > % T (free) - 0.3 > > > > E - 24 (I think) > > > > > > > > What concerns me is my % Free T has not improved in a year even > > > after > > > > 1- I started using Andro correctly > > > > 2- Take soy protein shakes every day > > > > 3- Take 65 mg of Zinc/day > > > > 4- Do not drink nor smoke. > > > > > > > > Am I over reacting or is there something I am missing? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Flaco. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Shop for a whey protein that is 100% whey protein ISOLATE.... as I recall, while a little more expensive, it is lactose free or almost so (check to make sure as I'm going by memory right here... but I'm pretty sure)..... Larry This is Flaco reporting > again! > > > > > > > > It has been a while since I have posted or checked the site. I > > > have > > > > been very busy at work and been feeling well for the most part. > > > > > > > > Recently, I have been feeling tired at the end of the day. I > > > thought > > > > it had to do with my allergies, but this year they are under > > > control > > > > with my treatments. > > > > > > > > For background info: I am 47 years old on 5 g/day of Androgel. > > > > > > > > I went to my Int. Med. doctor and she first suspected it was my > > > > thyroid (I used to be hyper, and she thought I may be going > hypo). > > > > She ordered CBC, Free T4 & TSH and T & free T. > > > > > > > > These were the results: > > > > > > > > CBC - normal across the board > > > > > > > > T4 - 1.3 ng/dL Range: 0.9 to 1.8 (normal) > > > > TSH - 0.28 MIU/ml Range: 0.35 - 5.50 (low, but because of the > T4 > > > > value this is acceptable). > > > > > > > > T - 654 ng/dL Range 260 to 1000 > > > > Free T - 18.2 ng/dL Range 8.3 to 35.1 > > > > % Free T - 0.3 Range 0.2 to 0.6. > > > > > > > > So she said it must be stress related. > > > > > > > > Last year, after I have been missusing the Androgel for almost > 3 > > > > years, I had a imbalance of T/E ratio. Once I started using > the > > > > Androgel accordingly, my symptoms improved. Two weeks after > > > starting > > > > the Andro correctly, these were my results (from memory): > > > > > > > > T - 697 > > > > % T (free) - 0.3 > > > > E - 24 (I think) > > > > > > > > What concerns me is my % Free T has not improved in a year even > > > after > > > > 1- I started using Andro correctly > > > > 2- Take soy protein shakes every day > > > > 3- Take 65 mg of Zinc/day > > > > 4- Do not drink nor smoke. > > > > > > > > Am I over reacting or is there something I am missing? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Flaco. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 The one I got is made from concentrate and isolate. So far my lactase tablets are doing the job. I have not had to increase the number too much over the soy protein. I use lactose free milk, of course! Flaco This is Flaco reporting > > again! > > > > > > > > > > It has been a while since I have posted or checked the site. I > > > > have > > > > > been very busy at work and been feeling well for the most part. > > > > > > > > > > Recently, I have been feeling tired at the end of the day. I > > > > thought > > > > > it had to do with my allergies, but this year they are under > > > > control > > > > > with my treatments. > > > > > > > > > > For background info: I am 47 years old on 5 g/day of Androgel. > > > > > > > > > > I went to my Int. Med. doctor and she first suspected it was my > > > > > thyroid (I used to be hyper, and she thought I may be going > > hypo). > > > > > She ordered CBC, Free T4 & TSH and T & free T. > > > > > > > > > > These were the results: > > > > > > > > > > CBC - normal across the board > > > > > > > > > > T4 - 1.3 ng/dL Range: 0.9 to 1.8 (normal) > > > > > TSH - 0.28 MIU/ml Range: 0.35 - 5.50 (low, but because of the > > T4 > > > > > value this is acceptable). > > > > > > > > > > T - 654 ng/dL Range 260 to 1000 > > > > > Free T - 18.2 ng/dL Range 8.3 to 35.1 > > > > > % Free T - 0.3 Range 0.2 to 0.6. > > > > > > > > > > So she said it must be stress related. > > > > > > > > > > Last year, after I have been missusing the Androgel for almost > > 3 > > > > > years, I had a imbalance of T/E ratio. Once I started using > > the > > > > > Androgel accordingly, my symptoms improved. Two weeks after > > > > starting > > > > > the Andro correctly, these were my results (from memory): > > > > > > > > > > T - 697 > > > > > % T (free) - 0.3 > > > > > E - 24 (I think) > > > > > > > > > > What concerns me is my % Free T has not improved in a year even > > > > after > > > > > 1- I started using Andro correctly > > > > > 2- Take soy protein shakes every day > > > > > 3- Take 65 mg of Zinc/day > > > > > 4- Do not drink nor smoke. > > > > > > > > > > Am I over reacting or is there something I am missing? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > Flaco. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Your Free T3 is low but I don't know if that has anything to do with your other ailments. Possibly fatigue? Research it. 1Pingitore A, et.al. Acute effects of triodothyronine replacement therapy in patients with chronic heart failure and low-T3 syndrome: a randomized, placebo-controlled study. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2008 Jan 2 [Epub ahead of print] 2Alevizaki M , et.al. Low triiodothyronine: a strong predictor of outcome in acute stroke patients. Eur J Clin Invest. 2007 Aug;37(8):651-7. 3Pingitore A, et.al. Thyroid function and heart failure: from the new clinical evidences to the potential therapeutical implications. Recenti Prog Med. 2005 Nov;96(11):535-41. 4Giorgio I, et.al. Low-T3 Syndrome: A Strong Prognostic Predictor of Death in Patients With Heart Disease. Circulation. 2003;107:708-713. I can't find Terrosin on drugs.com. What is it? Your B-12 is high - do you know why? Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of kip_walls MEDS In the PM Levothoroxin 100mcg As well as Bp meds (3)and Diabetes meds Terrosin 10mg Sular 30mg Metformin 1000 mg AM & PM Benazepril 40 mg AM and PM Triam hctz 37.5 AM ============================================ TEST RESULTS My free T3 tested at 2.6 vs 2.3 - 4.2 B12 was 634 vs a range of 250 -100 Ferritin was 38 vs 12 - 282 Free T4 was 1.25 vs .73 - 1.95 TSH was 1.1 vs .3 - 5.1 Comprehensive Metabolic Panel Glucose 112 vs 65 - 100 Bun 15 vs 8 - 25 Creatinine 1.0 vs .8 - 1.4 Calculated Bun / Creat 15 vs 6 - 28 Sodium 135 vs 133 - 146 Potassium 3.6 vs 3.5 - 5.3 Chloride 99 vs 97 - 110 Carbon Dioxide 28 vs 18 - 30 Calcium 9.3 vs 8.5 - 10.5 Protein, Total 7.4 vs 6.0 8.4 Albumin 4.6 vs 2.9 - 5.0 Calculated Globulin 2.8 vs 2.0 - 3.8 Calculated A/G Ratio vs .9 - 2.5 Bilirubin, Total .4 vs .1 - 1.3 Alkaline Phospatase 48 vs 30 - 132 SGOT (AST) 22 vs 5 - 35 SGPT 25 vs 7 - 56 CBC ( Complete Blood Count ) WBC 8.4 vs 4.0 - 11.0 RBC 4.95 vs 4.1 - 5.7 Hemoglobin 15.8 vs 13.0 - 17.0 Hematocrit 45.4 vs 37.0 - 49.0 MCV 91.7 vs 80 - 100 MCH 31.9 vs 27.0 - 34.0 MCHC 34.8 vs 34.8 - 36.4 RDW 14.2 vs 11.0 - 15.0 Neutrophils 49 vs 40 - 74 Lymphocytes 40 vs 19 - 48 Monocytes 4 vs 3 - 11 Eosinophils 5 vs 0 -7 Basophils 2 vs 0 - 2 Platelent Count 299 vs 130 - 400 ============================================= Suffering from fatigue and dizziness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Please ask for your calculated creatinine clearance- most modern labs do this as part of the print out. There prob is a site that will allow you to enter your age, gender, and ethnicity to get this better estimate of your kidney function. On Mar 8, 2008, at 11:05 AM, kip_walls wrote: > MEDS > > In the PM > Levothoroxin 100mcg As well as Bp meds (3)and Diabetes meds > Terrosin 10mg > Sular 30mg > > Metformin 1000 mg AM & PM > Benazepril 40 mg AM and PM > > Triam hctz 37.5 AM > > ============================================ > > TEST RESULTS > > My free T3 tested at 2.6 vs 2.3 - 4.2 > > B12 was 634 vs a range of 250 -100 > > Ferritin was 38 vs 12 - 282 > > Free T4 was 1.25 vs .73 - 1.95 > > TSH was 1.1 vs .3 - 5.1 > > Comprehensive Metabolic Panel > Glucose 112 vs 65 - 100 > Bun 15 vs 8 - 25 > Creatinine 1.0 vs .8 - 1.4 > Calculated Bun / Creat 15 vs 6 - 28 > Sodium 135 vs 133 - 146 > Potassium 3.6 vs 3.5 - 5.3 > Chloride 99 vs 97 - 110 > Carbon Dioxide 28 vs 18 - 30 > Calcium 9.3 vs 8.5 - 10.5 > Protein, Total 7.4 vs 6.0 8.4 > Albumin 4.6 vs 2.9 - 5.0 > Calculated Globulin 2.8 vs 2.0 - 3.8 > Calculated A/G Ratio vs .9 - 2.5 > Bilirubin, Total .4 vs .1 - 1.3 > Alkaline Phospatase 48 vs 30 - 132 > SGOT (AST) 22 vs 5 - 35 > SGPT 25 vs 7 - 56 > > CBC ( Complete Blood Count ) > WBC 8.4 vs 4.0 - 11.0 > RBC 4.95 vs 4.1 - 5.7 > Hemoglobin 15.8 vs 13.0 - 17.0 > Hematocrit 45.4 vs 37.0 - 49.0 > MCV 91.7 vs 80 - 100 > MCH 31.9 vs 27.0 - 34.0 > MCHC 34.8 vs 34.8 - 36.4 > RDW 14.2 vs 11.0 - 15.0 > Neutrophils 49 vs 40 - 74 > Lymphocytes 40 vs 19 - 48 > Monocytes 4 vs 3 - 11 > Eosinophils 5 vs 0 -7 > Basophils 2 vs 0 - 2 > Platelent Count 299 vs 130 - 400 > > ============================================= > Suffering from fatigue and dizziness > > Diagnosed with Post Polio, Sleep Apnea, Allergies to EGG whites, > Wheat, and Dairy and more on lesser scale. > > Any ideas? > > May your pressure be low! CE Grim BS, MS, MD High Blood Pressure Consulting Specializing in Difficult to Manage High Blood Pressure Consult the following at for details bloodpressureline hyperaldosteronism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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