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Docs office just called and told me not to putb the gel on if I am

taking the test in the early morning. So I guess what I did was

correct.

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Stop seeing Endo's they feel if your levels are in range your fine. I can't see

how after being on TRT 12 yrs your LH and FSH levels are good I am betting they

are very low in the normal range. If your T levels are 50 your LH and FSH

should be very high near the top or over the top of the range. But you can't

get good lab in this if you were on TRT your brain is shut down from sending

this due to being on TRT.

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Phil

> From: globalresearch2001 <jbx10@...>

> Subject: Doc

>

> Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 11:12 AM

> Endo Dr suggests a Pituitary

> MRI..even though my LH and prolactin IGF1 are normal.Is this

> going overboard?I hear a Pituitary tumor or problems come

> with a host of symptoms which I don't have.

> In other words how can one confirm if its the testes or the

> Pituitary that's the problem?

>

>

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Not a problem that’s what I do just keep asking until your on point.

I feel any kind of Dr. is good that treats a lot of men for low T and tests and

treats high Estraidol levels with Arimidex and if you go back on TRT your

Estraidol levels will come back up your way to low. But when you did them labs

for your Estraidol how long were you off the Nolvedex it is an SERM and you need

to be off it 2 months or longer to get too labs on Estraidol. Why were you on

this body builders use this when coming off steroids to jump start them self's

it's not good for low T.

To find a good Dr. go to the Database Section at the home page click on

Physician Reference see if one of the guys Dr.'s is in your area. But still

before seeing one call them ask how many men do they treat for low T and if they

test for high Estradiol and use Arimidex to lower it. Ask if one is Secondary

do they use HCG to treat them men that are Secondary there testis work just

don't get told to work. You will know if you found good one.

If you want to try to jump start your self see if your Family Dr. will work with

Dr. over the phone to try this he is the best at this but with your age I

don't know if this will work most of the time it does not work. Men that go on

TRT end up on it for life if you stop you will go back to were you were in

levels before trying TRT is your lucky.

Your can't test LH and FSH once you have been on TRT even if your off it your

brain is shut down from sending this message to your testis from being on

Testosterone meds any good Dr. up on this knows this.

Your IGF-1 levels will be off with low T your range is by age Dr.'s up on HGH

know to keep ones levels up like in younger men say 300. When you get back on

TRT an leveled off or tuned up your IGF-1 or Growth Hormone levels will go back

up some retest them then.

Your Cortisol if done in the morning doing a fasting test are fine people get a

little stressed in the Dr.'s office and being stuck by a needle.

To tell you need to do a 4x's in a day Saliva test you can buy this your self

still get your T levels up before doing this.

You need more testing for your Thyroid having a TSH that high is a Flag going up

anything over 2 is needed to be looked at. All TSH is is the message from our

brain that tells your thyroid to make more and a level of 3 says you need more

and don't have it. One way to tell there is a home test you can do by taking

your temp under your arm before getting out of bed in the morning read this

link on how to do this.

http://drbate.com/Ref/thyroid.html

And read this link for labs you need to test your Thyroid and where to buy a

4x's in a day saliva test for Cortisol.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/

I use Test Cypionate most men start with 100 mgs /week hold this for about 8

weeks do labs if your not up into the upper 1/3 of your labs range and don't

feel great go up to 125mgs hold 8 weeks and repeat. If you find your feeling

low by your next shot try doing half the dose 2x's a week or adding HCG to the

mix doing 250 IU's the 2 days each before your next weekly Test C shot.

The following like is a good read about TRT and the diff. kinds it's a link for

women becoming men but still has dam good info.

http://www.ftmguide.org/ttypes.html#cypionate

Yes Androgel in most men converts into DHT faster then Shot and it coverts into

Estariol faster then shots.

Go to the files section and read " Find a Male Hormone Dr. " then try calling some

Compounding Pharmacy's and ask for the name and number of Dr.'s in your area

that buy Testosterone meds from them.

http://www.collegepharmacy.com/menshealth/andropause.asp

ANEWrx

523 Parkway View Drive

Pittsburgh, PA 15205

877-788-8908 (ph)

877-788-8948 (fax)

Monday - Friday (9am - 6pm)

Saturday 10am - 2pm

www.ANEWrx.com

men have a lot of good luck doing this.

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Phil

> From: globalresearch2001 <jbx10@...>

> Subject: Re: Doc

>

> Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 1:35 PM

>

> Thank you for your help..

> Wow what a story you have..I have some more qs if you can

> share your experience its greatly appreciated.

> Your right about endos,what do you think about these

> rejuvenation centers like the ones athletes use?

> My cortisol is high 24.2

> my FSH is 1.8 borderline low.

> LH 1.7 borderline low.

> Prolactin 9.2 mid range.

> Estradiol 7 which is good and low.Probably because i took

> Nolvedex.

> IGF 138 midrange

> TSH 3rd generation  3.13 good high range.

> Testosterone free and total

> ,Lc/ms/ms   70  low out of range

> %free testosterone 1.52  in a range of - 

> 1.5-2.2(quest)

> testosterone free  10.6 low  range

> 35.0-155.0  quest

> what is your opinion on this?

> I would like to feel good yet not have to rely on drugs to

> keep me alive and well.Can I ever get my testes to work

> again?

> Does androgel convert more DHT than shots?

> What kind of shots for long term

> cipinate?proprionate?ethanate?

> Thanks again..

>

>

>

> >

> > > From: globalresearch2001 <jbx10@...>

> > > Subject: Doc

> > >

> > > Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 11:12 AM

> > > Endo Dr suggests a Pituitary

> > > MRI..even though my LH and prolactin IGF1 are

> normal.Is this

> > > going overboard?I hear a Pituitary tumor or

> problems come

> > > with a host of symptoms which I don't have.

> > > In other words how can one confirm if its the

> testes or the

> > > Pituitary that's the problem?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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