Re: anybody share similiar experiences as this???

[Guest guest]

An erection isn't all physical. There is a mental element as well.

Maybe when you're awake you have anxiety about it and this interferes

with you getting a good erection. During sleep, this would not be a

factor. That's my theory...

Regards,

K4

> I have problems getting erections due to low test levels and

> hypogonadism. I almost never get spontanteous erections during the

> day. However, during the night I frequently get full erections and

> usually wake up with one. So if I am unable to get them during the

> day, how the hell is it happening in my sleep?

[Guest guest]

Myclassic,

Nocturnal erections (NEs) and morning erections, what I call piss

hard ons are on their own mission. Here are two reasonably good

sites discussing NEs...

http://www.health.harvard.edu/medline/Men/N0200b.html

http://webmd.lycos.com/content/article/1687.50697

Piss hardons are defined succintly in this site...

http://www.sleepmedservices.com/101questions/sex.html

" The relationship between REM sleep and erections is also the reason

that men frequently wake up in the morning with an erection without

having any particular desire to engage in sexual activity. There is a

commonly held, but incorrect, belief that morning erections are due

to a full urinary bladder. This belief really makes no sense. For

example, men do not get erections during the day before urination.

The correct explanation for morning erections involves the way

nighttime sleep is organized. We have most of our REM sleep in the

early morning, usually between 4 - 7 AM. Therefore, each morning we

are very likely to awaken directly from REM sleep or, at the very

least, soon after a long REM period has ended. Thus, men are very

likely to awaken in the morning with a REM sleep-relatederection. "

Men with erectile dysfunction (ED) if its psychogenic/performance

anxiety, they will have NEs. Generally this type ED is very amenable

to Viagra. If this is interfering with partner sex....I would

suggest you consult with your doctor. Pfizer provides doctors with

ample Viagra samples.

The fact that you do have NEs and piss hard ons shows that your

plumbing is working ok.

Good luck,

OR eon

> I have problems getting erections due to low test levels and

> hypogonadism. I almost never get spontanteous erections during the

> day. However, during the night I frequently get full erections and

> usually wake up with one. So if I am unable to get them during the

> day, how the hell is it happening in my sleep?

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info. So my plumbing isnt broke if I get nocturnal

erections? I really have a hard time laying fault on psychological

factors. I can understand having " performance anxiety " and having

difficulty with erections. But I cannot understand why at any given

time of day, even if I am having a great day, I never get spontaneous

erections. I can be driving down the road and start thinking of sex,

or look at visual images or recall past sex experiences, and I know I

should become aroused, but I don't. It should happen at least once in

a while, but it never does for me anymore. How does psychological

have that much affect on me? I certainly have no performance anxiety

if I am just thinking about sex. A few years ago all I had to do was

look at an attractive girl and I easily obtained an erection.

Nowadays I could have Miss America sit naked on my lap and I would

still have no reaction below the belt. Yes, viagra helps, but I hate

it. Makes me flushed and gives headaches. I don't want to rely on

that to get me going. I want to get to the bottom of things. If I am

underestimating the psychological piece of it, how do I get treatment

for that? a sex therapist? I really can't see how sitting on some

shrinks couch and telling he or she I have trouble getting erections

is going to fix the problem. Any thoughts?????

> > I have problems getting erections due to low test levels and

> > hypogonadism. I almost never get spontanteous erections during

the

> > day. However, during the night I frequently get full erections

and

> > usually wake up with one. So if I am unable to get them during

the

> > day, how the hell is it happening in my sleep?

[Guest guest]

My Classic,

Those were just some suggestions...now for a few more. If I recall

correctly, without having to go back to your original post in this

thread, you mentioned your testosterone was low. How low? Here's a

table giving optimal testosterone levels by age...

http://www.alt-support-impotence.org/hormone_charts.htm

What about your other sex hormones? Estrogen, estradiol, free test,

%free & weakly bound testosterone and sex hormone binding globulin

(SHBG)? At a minimum each time I have my sex hormones measured, I

always have first four run, from results of those I can generally

estimate what SHBG level will be.

You didn't state your age. You did state that just ~several years

ago, you had day spontaneous erections. Changes in our body do occur

and generally over a period of time. My hormones are balanced well

now...results from last two bleeds of 12-5-01 and 3-11-02...it's hard

for me to post columnar data in this format but I think you can

figure it out.

12-5-01 - 29 dy 3-11-02 - 96 dy

Tests Serum 750 704 (241- 827)

%Free & Weak 47.7 37.6 (18.3 - 62.3)

F & W bound 357.7 264.7 (66.6 - 276.3)

Estradiol 50 16 (0-54)

Estrogen 124 44 (40 - 115)

If anything my estrogen/estradiol are too low so I have cut Arimidex

dosing back to two days on 1 mg Arimides and one day off; I tried

eod and that didn't work for me.

I'm 64, my primary hypogonadism comes from HIV infection. Most of my

orgasms are cybersex generated...my erectile responses are variable.

I use Trimix to inject my cock when I have occasional sexual

partner....that gives me a 2 hr nonbendable erection...takes all

anxiety away...am I gonna get my cock up, can I keep my cock up, etc.

In the evening when I'm kicking back my cock/nuts get real fleshy and

get a little firms. I've not had a day spontaneous erection in years

and accept it as normal part of agin.

I would highly recommend that you post your question to the site

below, you will have to join Community zero which only entails

generating a user name/password.

ASI http://www.alt-support-impotence.org/

There's another good group that I've been subscribed to for nearly 3

yrs. Alt.Support Impotence NewsGroup, this is where I've learned all

that I know about ED and hormones.

Good luck,

Keep us posted as goes it how...

OR eon

> > > I have problems getting erections due to low test levels and

> > > hypogonadism. I almost never get spontanteous erections during

> the

> > > day. However, during the night I frequently get full erections

> and

> > > usually wake up with one. So if I am unable to get them during

> the

> > > day, how the hell is it happening in my sleep?

[Guest guest]

My Classic,

Those were just some suggestions...now for a few more. If I recall

correctly, without having to go back to your original post in this

thread, you mentioned your testosterone was low. How low? Here's a

table giving optimal testosterone levels by age...

http://www.alt-support-impotence.org/hormone_charts.htm

What about your other sex hormones? Estrogen, estradiol, free test,

%free & weakly bound testosterone and sex hormone binding globulin

(SHBG)? At a minimum each time I have my sex hormones measured, I

always have first four run, from results of those I can generally

estimate what SHBG level will be.

You didn't state your age. You did state that just ~several years

ago, you had day spontaneous erections. Changes in our body do occur

and generally over a period of time. My hormones are balanced well

now...results from last two bleeds of 12-5-01 and 3-11-02...it's hard

for me to post columnar data in this format but I think you can

figure it out.

12-5-01 - 29 dy 3-11-02 - 96 dy

Tests Serum 750 704 (241- 827)

%Free & Weak 47.7 37.6 (18.3 - 62.3)

F & W bound 357.7 264.7 (66.6 - 276.3)

Estradiol 50 16 (0-54)

Estrogen 124 44 (40 - 115)

If anything my estrogen/estradiol are too low so I have cut Arimidex

dosing back to two days on 1 mg Arimides and one day off; I tried

eod and that didn't work for me.

I'm 64, my primary hypogonadism comes from HIV infection. Most of my

orgasms are cybersex generated...my erectile responses are variable.

I use Trimix to inject my cock when I have occasional sexual

partner....that gives me a 2 hr nonbendable erection...takes all

anxiety away...am I gonna get my cock up, can I keep my cock up, etc.

In the evening when I'm kicking back my cock/nuts get real fleshy and

get a little firms. I've not had a day spontaneous erection in years

and accept it as normal part of agin.

I would highly recommend that you post your question to the site

below, you will have to join Community zero which only entails

generating a user name/password.

ASI http://www.alt-support-impotence.org/

There's another good group that I've been subscribed to for nearly 3

yrs. Alt.Support Impotence NewsGroup, this is where I've learned all

that I know about ED and hormones.

Good luck,

Keep us posted as goes it how...

OR eon

> > > I have problems getting erections due to low test levels and

> > > hypogonadism. I almost never get spontanteous erections during

> the

> > > day. However, during the night I frequently get full erections

> and

> > > usually wake up with one. So if I am unable to get them during

> the

> > > day, how the hell is it happening in my sleep?

[Guest guest]

My Classic,

Those were just some suggestions...now for a few more. If I recall

correctly, without having to go back to your original post in this

thread, you mentioned your testosterone was low. How low? Here's a

table giving optimal testosterone levels by age...

http://www.alt-support-impotence.org/hormone_charts.htm

What about your other sex hormones? Estrogen, estradiol, free test,

%free & weakly bound testosterone and sex hormone binding globulin

(SHBG)? At a minimum each time I have my sex hormones measured, I

always have first four run, from results of those I can generally

estimate what SHBG level will be.

You didn't state your age. You did state that just ~several years

ago, you had day spontaneous erections. Changes in our body do occur

and generally over a period of time. My hormones are balanced well

now...results from last two bleeds of 12-5-01 and 3-11-02...it's hard

for me to post columnar data in this format but I think you can

figure it out.

12-5-01 - 29 dy 3-11-02 - 96 dy

Tests Serum 750 704 (241- 827)

%Free & Weak 47.7 37.6 (18.3 - 62.3)

F & W bound 357.7 264.7 (66.6 - 276.3)

Estradiol 50 16 (0-54)

Estrogen 124 44 (40 - 115)

If anything my estrogen/estradiol are too low so I have cut Arimidex

dosing back to two days on 1 mg Arimides and one day off; I tried

eod and that didn't work for me.

I'm 64, my primary hypogonadism comes from HIV infection. Most of my

orgasms are cybersex generated...my erectile responses are variable.

I use Trimix to inject my cock when I have occasional sexual

partner....that gives me a 2 hr nonbendable erection...takes all

anxiety away...am I gonna get my cock up, can I keep my cock up, etc.

In the evening when I'm kicking back my cock/nuts get real fleshy and

get a little firms. I've not had a day spontaneous erection in years

and accept it as normal part of agin.

I would highly recommend that you post your question to the site

below, you will have to join Community zero which only entails

generating a user name/password.

ASI http://www.alt-support-impotence.org/

There's another good group that I've been subscribed to for nearly 3

yrs. Alt.Support Impotence NewsGroup, this is where I've learned all

that I know about ED and hormones.

Good luck,

Keep us posted as goes it how...

OR eon

> > > I have problems getting erections due to low test levels and

> > > hypogonadism. I almost never get spontanteous erections during

> the

> > > day. However, during the night I frequently get full erections

> and

> > > usually wake up with one. So if I am unable to get them during

> the

> > > day, how the hell is it happening in my sleep?

[Guest guest]

sorry I left out some info. i don't have all the numbers you are

looking for but I will tell you some. I am 31. Too damn young to be

walking around with limp dick. Last year was found to have test level

of 135, this found after complaining of fatigue, ED,etc. Went to

urologist and he put me on Androgel. Said I had primary hypogonadism.

After a couple of months on androgel, got tested again and this time

test was 335 and LH was 1.4. He said LH was normal, strange for

primary he said. I decided to go to and endro, and he ran other tests

(cortisol,prolactin,thyroid) plus had an MRI of pituitiary. MRI was

ok as were all test results. He found nothing abnormal and had no

answer for my ED. He said it was depression. I decided for myself to

ask for a lab to get a sperm count. It was zero! I continued on

androgel for a couple of more months, then decided I wanted one more

opinion. Found a new urologist, a young gun right out of Boston Univ.

I made an appt and stopped the androgel so I would go in " clean " . I

was off for a month before my appt finally rolled around. Had a

second sperm count done before I went because I knew he would want at

least two tests of that nature. Once again zero. Had test level

measured again, it had dropped back down to 143. He was at the point

where I would have to go to Boston for a biopsy to see why I am

producing no sperm. He said before that, he wanted to run one more

test, this time for LSH. Looking through all my records he did not

see that had been tested. Why the first urologist and the endro did

not test for this I will never know. Yesterday I go back in for the

results of that thinking it would be high and my next step was

Boston. What a surprise when my LH was 0.5 and my FSH 0.37, both

below normal which is a sign of secondary, not primary. So he

concludes that I have secondary hypo. Before I got my hopes up, I

asked to get another FSH and LH testing, to rule out lab error. If it

comes back low again, as expected, then I will be looking at Hormone

therapy. This is why you get second and third opinions, people, too

many doctors are knuckleheads. what kind of an endrocronologist would

not test for FSH? mine, thats who. All these past months I have been

concentrating on researching primary hypo, now I have to go back and

look at the secondary postings. Too bad this new format has virtually

stopped me from being able to navigate through multiple postings

without taking 4 hours for the page to come up. Yes, this new format

sucks! Thanks Oreon, for you words..............

> > > > I have problems getting erections due to low test levels and

> > > > hypogonadism. I almost never get spontanteous erections

during

> > the

> > > > day. However, during the night I frequently get full

erections

> > and

> > > > usually wake up with one. So if I am unable to get them

during

> > the

> > > > day, how the hell is it happening in my sleep?

[Guest guest]

I think this is just the low test levels. You aren't having

erections because your libido is in the basement. Keep working on

getting the test level up. Push it up well past the lower threshold

if necessary. Libido isn't so much a factor for nocturnal

erections. I'll bet once your libido is online again you'll have no

further trouble with erections.

Take care

Brad

> > > I have problems getting erections due to low test levels and

> > > hypogonadism. I almost never get spontanteous erections during

> the

> > > day. However, during the night I frequently get full erections

> and

> > > usually wake up with one. So if I am unable to get them during

> the

> > > day, how the hell is it happening in my sleep?