Re: Better-SexSupplementsSlammed (fromWebMD)

[Guest guest]

Enzyte is rubbish. The commercial used to be shown at least 5 times

an hour on ESPN with that scary-looking smiley face guy. I was

suckered into it thinking it would turn me into a sex machine. A

waste of $30.

Dave K.

>

> Posting by request from another male sexual dysfunction group:

>

> On the subject of supplements and snake oil, here's an interesting

> article (and amusingly worded - ironically as I write this,

> the " enzyte " ad is playing on the tv in the background)

> http://my.webmd.com/content/article/94/102794.htm

> A few excerpts:

>

> Improve penis length! Girth! Erection! Sex drive! The science

behind

> these claims comes up short, according to a new report.

>

> The Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI) has set its

> researchers onto those better-erection pills. These are the

> supplements that are marketed in " pharmaspeak " with names such as

> Enzyte and Elexia, and Pro-Erex, Vahard, and VasoRect -- as well as

> Big Daddy, Libido-Max, Suregasm.

>

> Today, CSPI filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission

(FTC)

> about one product -- Enzyte -- for deceptive advertising. Enzyte's

> parent company, Berkeley Nutritionals, is also under scrutiny by

the

> Ohio State Attorney General's office. In addition, the company is

> also the target of two class-action lawsuits looking for customer

> refunds.

>

> CSPI also looked at Enzyte's past advertising claims. " The

company's

> original claim was that Enzyte would add 3 inches to a man's

penis, "

> says Schardt, a CSPI senior nutritionist. " That claim was

> challenged by the Better Business Bureau, which investigated and

> hammered them for having no evidence. That claim was dropped from

the

> advertising. "

>

> " Enzyte is more successful subtracting from the male wallet than it

> is adding to the male organ, " Schardt says in a news release.

>

> " People are so frustrated or desperate, and they don't want to

spend

> too much money, so they buy these things, " Jack Mydlo, MD,

professor

> and chair of urology at Temple University School of Medicine, tells

> WebMD. " It's the snake oil of the new millennium, " says

Mydlo. " Most

> of these companies make their millions in a few months, and then

pull

> up stakes by the time they're found out. "

>

> 16 Ingredients, but No Go

>

> In their study, CSPI (Center for Science in the Public Interest)

> researchers analyzed evidence on the most common ingredients

> contained in Enzyte and similar products -- arginine, ginseng,

> ginkgo, horny goat weed, maca, and Tribulus terrestris (testicle

> tissue), and the herb yohimbe.

>

> Arginine occurs naturally in nearly every food, and is converted in

> the body into nitric oxide, which relaxes and opens up blood

vessels

> in the body. (In fact, Viagra works by increasing the availability

of

> nitric oxide.) But there is little or no evidence that taking

> arginine as a supplement works with any sexual problems, says the

> CSPI.

>

> Yohimbe is an unreliable natural source of the prescription drug

> Yohimbine, which is sometimes prescribed for erectile dysfunction.

> But Yohimbine may cause sudden spikes in blood pressure, says CSPI.

>

> The only exception: Some ginseng products contain large amounts of

a

> specially processed form of ginseng which has been shown -- in two

> studies from South Korea -- to help one in four men with erectile

> dysfunction, Schardt says. " But that's not the type of ginseng

found

> in Enzyte, " he tells WebMD.

>

> " There's no evidence that any ingredient -- singly or in

combination,

> in amounts found in Enzyte -- have the effect the company claims.

> This applies to just about every one of these products out there. "

>

> from:

> Deceptive Advertising Complaint Issued Against Erection Products

> WebMD Medical News by Jeanie Lerche

> Reviewed by Brunilda Nazario, MD Thursday, September 23, 2004

[Guest guest]

Enzyte is rubbish.----

That is the point.

[Guest guest]

Well...my own experience with herbal Yohimbe is that it works to give good

hard erections, but it also makes my whole body jittery as hell.

Arginine in LARGE doses, like 15 grams (don't quote me) is often touted as

working for impotence in the alt.support.impotence group.

I can't comment on Enzyte, but cheap, OTC yohimbe and arginine seem to have

enough people on the boards that swear by them to make them at least worth a

try.

> Better-SexSupplementsSlammed (fromWebMD)

>

>

>

> Posting by request from another male sexual dysfunction group:

>

> On the subject of supplements and snake oil, here's an

> interesting article (and amusingly worded - ironically as I

> write this, the " enzyte " ad is playing on the tv in the

> background) http://my.webmd.com/content/article/94/102794.htm

> A few excerpts:

>

> Improve penis length! Girth! Erection! Sex drive! The science

> behind these claims comes up short, according to a new report.

>

> The Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI) has set

> its researchers onto those better-erection pills. These are

> the supplements that are marketed in " pharmaspeak " with names

> such as Enzyte and Elexia, and Pro-Erex, Vahard, and VasoRect

> -- as well as Big Daddy, Libido-Max, Suregasm.

>

> Today, CSPI filed a complaint with the Federal Trade

> Commission (FTC) about one product -- Enzyte -- for deceptive

> advertising. Enzyte's parent company, Berkeley Nutritionals,

> is also under scrutiny by the Ohio State Attorney General's

> office. In addition, the company is also the target of two

> class-action lawsuits looking for customer refunds.

>

> CSPI also looked at Enzyte's past advertising claims. " The

> company's original claim was that Enzyte would add 3 inches

> to a man's penis, "

> says Schardt, a CSPI senior nutritionist. " That claim

> was challenged by the Better Business Bureau, which

> investigated and hammered them for having no evidence. That

> claim was dropped from the advertising. "

>

> " Enzyte is more successful subtracting from the male wallet

> than it is adding to the male organ, " Schardt says in a news release.

>

> " People are so frustrated or desperate, and they don't want

> to spend too much money, so they buy these things, " Jack

> Mydlo, MD, professor and chair of urology at Temple

> University School of Medicine, tells WebMD. " It's the snake

> oil of the new millennium, " says Mydlo. " Most of these

> companies make their millions in a few months, and then pull

> up stakes by the time they're found out. "

>

> 16 Ingredients, but No Go

>

> In their study, CSPI (Center for Science in the Public

> Interest) researchers analyzed evidence on the most common

> ingredients contained in Enzyte and similar products --

> arginine, ginseng, ginkgo, horny goat weed, maca, and

> Tribulus terrestris (testicle tissue), and the herb yohimbe.

>

> Arginine occurs naturally in nearly every food, and is

> converted in the body into nitric oxide, which relaxes and

> opens up blood vessels in the body. (In fact, Viagra works by

> increasing the availability of nitric oxide.) But there is

> little or no evidence that taking arginine as a supplement

> works with any sexual problems, says the CSPI.

>

> Yohimbe is an unreliable natural source of the prescription

> drug Yohimbine, which is sometimes prescribed for erectile

> dysfunction.

> But Yohimbine may cause sudden spikes in blood pressure, says CSPI.

>

> The only exception: Some ginseng products contain large

> amounts of a specially processed form of ginseng which has

> been shown -- in two studies from South Korea -- to help one

> in four men with erectile dysfunction, Schardt says. " But

> that's not the type of ginseng found in Enzyte, " he tells WebMD.

>

> " There's no evidence that any ingredient -- singly or in

> combination, in amounts found in Enzyte -- have the effect

> the company claims.

> This applies to just about every one of these products out there. "

>

> from:

> Deceptive Advertising Complaint Issued Against Erection

> Products WebMD Medical News by Jeanie Lerche Reviewed

> by Brunilda Nazario, MD Thursday, September 23, 2004

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for the info. IMO the Enzyte people should be horsewhipped for

annoyance in advertising.

How's your husband doing?

Bruce

>

> On the subject of supplements and snake oil, here's an interesting

> article (and amusingly worded - ironically as I write this,

> the " enzyte " ad is playing on the tv in the background)

> http://my.webmd.com/content/article/94/102794.htm

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