RE: Low testosterone levels

[Guest guest]

--Eugene,

Your morning body temp is NOT low. 97.4 is perfectly normal for any

man morning or night. Some people run a little hotter and some a

little cooler. 97.8 to 99.1 is the normal body temp range. To be

97.4 during times of inactivity (such as sleeping) is perfectly

normal. Now if your normal temp during the day were 97.4, you might

find a relationship between a physical issue and your temp but

you're very much normal during the day. Go have a nice 4th of July.

Be Safe,

- In , " eugenekeddy " <eugenekeddy@...>

wrote:

>

> Phil,

>

> I get plenty of morning wood, even with E2 at 10. I'm relatively

> young (38), so maybe that helps.

>

> My body temp is low also (about 97.4 when I awake, about 98.1

during

> the day). I have some thyroid and/or adrenal problems that might

be

> causing it. I'll keep an eye on my E2 and my temp to see if there

is

> a relationship.

>

> I do my Novarel exactly the way you do (1/2 " needle into the thigh,

> which is IM for me) and feel no effects whatsoever. Maybe my LH is

> still high (I'm primary) so adding more HCG wouldn't be that much

of a

> change for me. Maybe one's LH would need to be low in order to

feel a

> difference when using HCG. Maybe my HPA axis hasn't shut down yet.

>

>

> > Phil,

> >

> > I felt really good when I was doing the compounded topical on my

> > scrotum. I don't feel quite as good on injections, but I'm still

in

> > the process of stabilizing my levels and getting my E2 in a good

spot.

> > My E2 was 10 on a recent test, so I am really cutting back on the

> > Arimidex (I was doing 1/2 mg twice per week - going to try 1/4

mg once

> > per week - I'm very thin so I don't aromatize that much). I was

doing

> > 60 mg T cyp once per week, but my T level was 227 on the day of

my

> > shot (before the shot), so I have been doing 120 mg per week for

a

> > couple of weeks now and feeling better. I have also started

Novarel

> > (250 IU twice per week per Dr. ), but it does not have any

effect

> > on mood or wellbeing.

> >

> > Eugene

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hear is a good link on taking your Temp and in this is a graf you can print and

keep track. Today my Temp is staying steady at 97 so there seams to be no rime

or reason to my Temp.

http://www.drrind.com/tempgraph.asp#directions

I must have low Cortisol levels. I have heard men say they don't get a

feeling of well being doing HCG shots by there libido came up and there T levels

come up some. As for LH it makes not difference where it is at doing HCG.

Maybe it is too soon yet and you need to be on it for a wile. I did not get my

levels up higher untill I was past my 15th shot of HCG.

Phil

eugenekeddy <eugenekeddy@...> wrote:

Phil,

I get plenty of morning wood, even with E2 at 10. I'm relatively

young (38), so maybe that helps.

My body temp is low also (about 97.4 when I awake, about 98.1 during

the day). I have some thyroid and/or adrenal problems that might be

causing it. I'll keep an eye on my E2 and my temp to see if there is

a relationship.

I do my Novarel exactly the way you do (1/2 " needle into the thigh,

which is IM for me) and feel no effects whatsoever. Maybe my LH is

still high (I'm primary) so adding more HCG wouldn't be that much of a

change for me. Maybe one's LH would need to be low in order to feel a

difference when using HCG. Maybe my HPA axis hasn't shut down yet.

> Phil,

>

> I felt really good when I was doing the compounded topical on my

> scrotum. I don't feel quite as good on injections, but I'm still in

> the process of stabilizing my levels and getting my E2 in a good spot.

> My E2 was 10 on a recent test, so I am really cutting back on the

> Arimidex (I was doing 1/2 mg twice per week - going to try 1/4 mg once

> per week - I'm very thin so I don't aromatize that much). I was doing

> 60 mg T cyp once per week, but my T level was 227 on the day of my

> shot (before the shot), so I have been doing 120 mg per week for a

> couple of weeks now and feeling better. I have also started Novarel

> (250 IU twice per week per Dr. ), but it does not have any effect

> on mood or wellbeing.

>

> Eugene

>

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

Age related ED comes back again after your T level stabilizes at the

new higher level if it is truley age related.

When I began TRT many years ago, it was in search of a cure for my ED

which was severe at 60. The first set of pellets seemed to cure my ED

as erections were quick and long lasting for several weeks while the T

levels were increasing in my body. Then this effect of ramping up T

began to loose its effect. I thought the next set of hormone pellets

would restore this benefit but NO.

The doctor explained it is a sympton of increasing levels of T in the

blood. Once the level stabilizes, whatever form of age related ED you

had, will return. I'm still on TRT as the other benefits were well

wroth it.

ernestnolan

> > Phil,

> >

> > I felt really good when I was doing the compounded topical on my

> > scrotum. I don't feel quite as good on injections, but I'm still in

> > the process of stabilizing my levels and getting my E2 in a good spot.

> > My E2 was 10 on a recent test, so I am really cutting back on the

> > Arimidex (I was doing 1/2 mg twice per week - going to try 1/4 mg once

> > per week - I'm very thin so I don't aromatize that much). I was doing

> > 60 mg T cyp once per week, but my T level was 227 on the day of my

> > shot (before the shot), so I have been doing 120 mg per week for a

> > couple of weeks now and feeling better. I have also started Novarel

> > (250 IU twice per week per Dr. ), but it does not have any effect

> > on mood or wellbeing.

> >

> > Eugene

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have asked you this before and you never answered did you ever have your

Estradiol Checked. You can still have high Estradiol on pellets and this can

keep you from having good wood. We have Roy here that had his estradiol checked

and found it to be high and getting it down he had some morning wood he is in

his 80's.

Phil

ernestnolan <ernestnolan@...> wrote:

Hi All,

Age related ED comes back again after your T level stabilizes at the

new higher level if it is truley age related.

When I began TRT many years ago, it was in search of a cure for my ED

which was severe at 60. The first set of pellets seemed to cure my ED

as erections were quick and long lasting for several weeks while the T

levels were increasing in my body. Then this effect of ramping up T

began to loose its effect. I thought the next set of hormone pellets

would restore this benefit but NO.

The doctor explained it is a sympton of increasing levels of T in the

blood. Once the level stabilizes, whatever form of age related ED you

had, will return. I'm still on TRT as the other benefits were well

wroth it.

ernestnolan

> > Phil,

> >

> > I felt really good when I was doing the compounded topical on my

> > scrotum. I don't feel quite as good on injections, but I'm still in

> > the process of stabilizing my levels and getting my E2 in a good spot.

> > My E2 was 10 on a recent test, so I am really cutting back on the

> > Arimidex (I was doing 1/2 mg twice per week - going to try 1/4 mg once

> > per week - I'm very thin so I don't aromatize that much). I was doing

> > 60 mg T cyp once per week, but my T level was 227 on the day of my

> > shot (before the shot), so I have been doing 120 mg per week for a

> > couple of weeks now and feeling better. I have also started Novarel

> > (250 IU twice per week per Dr. ), but it does not have any effect

> > on mood or wellbeing.

> >

> > Eugene

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Eugene and toward the other gentlemen. Hope the holiday weekend is super

for you all. Im also primary Eugene and about to add HCG if Im lucky along with

that anti E2 to my formula.

I was wondering, does HCG really improve your LH and FSH thus, stimulate your

testes to produce testestone given you are primary?

I'm confused as well with something. If HCG allows the testes to produce sperm

in a male, is taking TRT for that same pupose, over-whelming the Testosterone in

the system or is their a limit of T the testes can produce if HCG works, given

the testes are still damaged?

I typed that thinking the body converts HCG into testesterone or atleast is a

gateway that stimulates.

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[Guest guest]

Elliot,

I am primary, which means my testes don't work as well as they should.

If I only took HCG, it probably wouldn't anything for me. I take the

HCG to keep my testes functioning, to prevent the shutdown that occurs

when on TRT.

>

> Hello Eugene and toward the other gentlemen. Hope the holiday

weekend is super for you all. Im also primary Eugene and about to add

HCG if Im lucky along with that anti E2 to my formula.

>

> I was wondering, does HCG really improve your LH and FSH thus,

stimulate your testes to produce testestone given you are primary?

>

> I'm confused as well with something. If HCG allows the testes to

produce sperm in a male, is taking TRT for that same pupose,

over-whelming the Testosterone in the system or is their a limit of T

the testes can produce if HCG works, given the testes are still damaged?

>

> I typed that thinking the body converts HCG into testesterone or

atleast is a gateway that stimulates.

[Guest guest]

Hey Elliot - HCG acts as an analog to Luetinizing Hormone. The body thinks it

LH. LH signals the testes to start production of testosterone. Your testes can

only produce so much so if you add more HCG it will not always make more T. In

fact, too much can desensitize you so you don't produce as much. For example,

prior to starting TRT, your body was producing some amount of T. HCG will

stimulate you to produce some amount of T.

Hope this helps - Arkansas

ELLIOT BAKER <elliotbkr@...> wrote:

Hello Eugene and toward the other gentlemen. Hope the holiday weekend

is super for you all. Im also primary Eugene and about to add HCG if Im lucky

along with that anti E2 to my formula.

I was wondering, does HCG really improve your LH and FSH thus, stimulate your

testes to produce testestone given you are primary?

I'm confused as well with something. If HCG allows the testes to produce sperm

in a male, is taking TRT for that same pupose, over-whelming the Testosterone in

the system or is their a limit of T the testes can produce if HCG works, given

the testes are still damaged?

I typed that thinking the body converts HCG into testesterone or atleast is a

gateway that stimulates.

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