Posts vs studies (was Once and for all, Does Clomid Work for a longterm TRT?)

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> >

> > I'll weigh in. First, Clomid is not testosterone, so it can't be

> TRT.

> > I'm not sure what you mean by " discuss among yourselves " ??? No

> > studies (that I know of) have been done where Clomid is part of

> > long-term therapy for hypogonadal men.

> >

> > My thoughts about Clomid are shaped solely on the results of

> studies

> > in peer-reviewed medical literature. Most of these articles

> describe

> > what one might call " controlled " studies. Not all of the

anecdotal

> > evidence posted here are from such controlled experiments. I've

> also

> > corresponded with the chair of an AACE panel who has studied the

> use

> > of Clomid in hypogonadal men. To be honest, I put more weight in

> > peer-reviewed studies than in a post where someone says they

" don't

> > feel that well. " To many variables to take into account.

> >

> > Based on the half dozen studies out there, Clomid shows some

> promise.

> > I'll wrap by saying, ... " the jury is still out. "

> >

> > Tom

> >

> >

> >

> > > Ok, I have seen a number of posts of people who have used

Clomid

> > > initially as a TRT, but I have yet to see anyone who has been

on

> it

> > > long term and has had success. Most posts are as follows,

> > >

> > > If you are secondary, you should try clomid

> > >

> > > Clomid should stimulate the HPTA and create testosterone.

> > >

> > > Clomid is a much more mild TRT

> > >

> > > Then, it usually digresses into:

> > >

> > > I didn't really feel that better, so I tried exogeneous T (or

> HCG)

> > > and I feel a lot better.

> > >

> > > On Clomid my libidio still stunk (and I cried during movies).

> > > Actually that last bit was from a post from a bodybuilder using

> > > clomid as to recover his HPTA.

> > >

> > > So, most people seem to think, Clomid should work as a TRT, but

> > > doesn't....if Clomid did work, wouldn't every secondary

> hypogonadic

> > > person needing TRT use Clomid? Wouldn't anti-aging clinics

> > recommend

> > > clomid instead of IM Shots.

> > >

> > > Sorry about the rant, but there seems to be somewhat of a

> > disconnect

> > > with respect to Clomid as a valid TRT.

> > >

> > >

> > > Clomid is neither a TRT, nor a HRT, please discuss amongst

> > yourselves

> > > (a little SNL humor).