Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Definitely on the low side. Just high enough that allot of doctor's will tell you it's all in your head. It's not. (and it's not in your nuts either unfortunately ). Definitely a case of secondary from where I'm standing. I would bet you would feel allot better with Clomid and/or HCG treatment. Any reason why it might be low? Did you take finasteride, cortizone cream, have a visectomy or the like? Definitely try taking zinc supplements immediately. Low zinc will prohibit your system from working properly. I thought I was fine for zinc, but I went to a natureopath and had a test where they get you to taste something that is supposed to taste very bitter. It did not taste at all to me which showed that I had very low zinc. Cheers, Armyguy > Ok, I just got my results from the lab. I have my doctors > appointment on Friday. > > Test 401 (241-827 ng/DL) > Free 13.2 (13-40 ng/dL) > % Free .33 (.2 - .7) > FSH 2.2 (1.4 to 18.1) > LH 2.7 (1.5 to 9.3) > Prolactin 7.5 (2.0 - 18.0) > > Obviously, the Free is a concern. I have low T symptoms, but I am > really afraid my Dr. is going to look at the over all Test number and > say I am allrigh. How about the FSH...that looks a bit low.... > > Any insight would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Thanks Armyguy for the quick response, I really don't know why it is low. However, I think it has been low for sometime. For a long time I thought (or still think) I was depressed. SSRI's don't do anything for me, so I really want to try something else. I will start the Zinc and someone else recommended DIM to access for free T. > > Ok, I just got my results from the lab. I have my doctors > > appointment on Friday. > > > > Test 401 (241-827 ng/DL) > > Free 13.2 (13-40 ng/dL) > > % Free .33 (.2 - .7) > > FSH 2.2 (1.4 to 18.1) > > LH 2.7 (1.5 to 9.3) > > Prolactin 7.5 (2.0 - 18.0) > > > > Obviously, the Free is a concern. I have low T symptoms, but I am > > really afraid my Dr. is going to look at the over all Test number > and > > say I am allrigh. How about the FSH...that looks a bit low.... > > > > Any insight would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 With the overall T number fairly low, I guess I am somewhat limited as to how much T I can " free " up. Is there anything else I can do short of TRT? I guess I can try some clomid and zinc and Dim.... > > > Ok, I just got my results from the lab. I have my doctors > > > appointment on Friday. > > > > > > Test 401 (241-827 ng/DL) > > > Free 13.2 (13-40 ng/dL) > > > % Free .33 (.2 - .7) > > > FSH 2.2 (1.4 to 18.1) > > > LH 2.7 (1.5 to 9.3) > > > Prolactin 7.5 (2.0 - 18.0) > > > > > > Obviously, the Free is a concern. I have low T symptoms, but I > am > > > really afraid my Dr. is going to look at the over all Test number > > and > > > say I am allrigh. How about the FSH...that looks a bit low.... > > > > > > Any insight would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 Bump for any other opinions. Thanks > Ok, I just got my results from the lab. I have my doctors > appointment on Friday. > > Test 401 (241-827 ng/DL) > Free 13.2 (13-40 ng/dL) > % Free .33 (.2 - .7) > FSH 2.2 (1.4 to 18.1) > LH 2.7 (1.5 to 9.3) > Prolactin 7.5 (2.0 - 18.0) > > Obviously, the Free is a concern. I have low T symptoms, but I am > really afraid my Dr. is going to look at the over all Test number and > say I am allrigh. How about the FSH...that looks a bit low.... > > Any insight would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 Well, you don't have an estradiol result to evaluate. Sadly, your concerns that your doc will declare you " ok " on the basis of results within the reference range may be well founded. I hate to be tiresomely repetitive but I would suggest undergoing a clomiphene stim test. I would wait to see what the doc says. Remind him or her of your symptoms. I would then produce a copy of the AACE clinical guidlines and ask for the clomiphene stimulation test described under " Dynamic Tests " on page 5 if the doc is dismissive of the possibility of hypo. Not mentioned in the discussion is the fact that your testosterone should also rise. This test will give some insight into how well your hypothalamus and pituitary function under some stimulation. Assuming you get a significant boost in LH, your testosterone should rise. If not, primary is suggested. As a bonus, you will get an idea of how (or if) you respond to clomiphene in case you are considering that as a treatment. If they will not attempt a trial with testosterone or will not administer the clomiphene stim test, I would suggest that you start doc-shopping. Brad > > Ok, I just got my results from the lab. I have my doctors > > appointment on Friday. > > > > Test 401 (241-827 ng/DL) > > Free 13.2 (13-40 ng/dL) > > % Free .33 (.2 - .7) > > FSH 2.2 (1.4 to 18.1) > > LH 2.7 (1.5 to 9.3) > > Prolactin 7.5 (2.0 - 18.0) > > > > Obviously, the Free is a concern. I have low T symptoms, but I am > > really afraid my Dr. is going to look at the over all Test number > and > > say I am allrigh. How about the FSH...that looks a bit low.... > > > > Any insight would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 I am trying to find an age-adjusted chart for free testosterone. According to most people, Free T is the most important stat as that is the T your body actually uses. My free T is probably the same as an 80 year old man (I am 34). > > Ok, I just got my results from the lab. I have my doctors > > appointment on Friday. > > > > Test 401 (241-827 ng/DL) > > Free 13.2 (13-40 ng/dL) > > % Free .33 (.2 - .7) > > FSH 2.2 (1.4 to 18.1) > > LH 2.7 (1.5 to 9.3) > > Prolactin 7.5 (2.0 - 18.0) > > > > Obviously, the Free is a concern. I have low T symptoms, but I am > > really afraid my Dr. is going to look at the over all Test number > and > > say I am allrigh. How about the FSH...that looks a bit low.... > > > > Any insight would be appreciated. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 Maybe K4 or Or eon can help but I seem to remember a chart in either the links secion or the files secion that shows a very nice age- adjusted chart from an actual study. I just can't seem to find it any more although I have it printed out. If we no longer have it I can scan it in and turn it into a PDF for the files section. In my opionion though, screw age-adjusted anything. You want to feel good, that's what is important. The age-related thing can be deceiving as it has been accepted that we men loose much of our T and Free T as we age, even in our 30's. That say that it is an acceptable and normal part of aging... Well, so is cancer and heart desease, but I'll take a rain-check on those. I will always shoot for youthful levels, regardless of my age. The research is overwelminly in favor of maintaining a youthful hormonal profile. This is so accepted for women, and now becoming so for men. But that's just my opinion. y > > > Ok, I just got my results from the lab. I have my doctors > > > appointment on Friday. > > > > > > Test 401 (241-827 ng/DL) > > > Free 13.2 (13-40 ng/dL) > > > % Free .33 (.2 - .7) > > > FSH 2.2 (1.4 to 18.1) > > > LH 2.7 (1.5 to 9.3) > > > Prolactin 7.5 (2.0 - 18.0) > > > > > > Obviously, the Free is a concern. I have low T symptoms, but I > am > > > really afraid my Dr. is going to look at the over all Test number > > and > > > say I am allrigh. How about the FSH...that looks a bit low.... > > > > > > Any insight would be appreciated. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 Amen. > > > > Ok, I just got my results from the lab. I have my doctors > > > > appointment on Friday. > > > > > > > > Test 401 (241-827 ng/DL) > > > > Free 13.2 (13-40 ng/dL) > > > > % Free .33 (.2 - .7) > > > > FSH 2.2 (1.4 to 18.1) > > > > LH 2.7 (1.5 to 9.3) > > > > Prolactin 7.5 (2.0 - 18.0) > > > > > > > > Obviously, the Free is a concern. I have low T symptoms, but I > >am > > > > really afraid my Dr. is going to look at the over all Test number > > > and > > > > say I am allrigh. How about the FSH...that looks a bit low.... > > > > > > > > Any insight would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 I agree. I was trying to get the info, so I can convince my Dr. that I am low in comparision, as the lab ranges are typically for everyone and are not age adjusted. > > > > > Ok, I just got my results from the lab. I have my doctors > > > > > appointment on Friday. > > > > > > > > > > Test 401 (241-827 ng/DL) > > > > > Free 13.2 (13-40 ng/dL) > > > > > % Free .33 (.2 - .7) > > > > > FSH 2.2 (1.4 to 18.1) > > > > > LH 2.7 (1.5 to 9.3) > > > > > Prolactin 7.5 (2.0 - 18.0) > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, the Free is a concern. I have low T symptoms, > but I > > >am > > > > > really afraid my Dr. is going to look at the over all Test > number > > > > and > > > > > say I am allrigh. How about the FSH...that looks a bit > low.... > > > > > > > > > > Any insight would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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