Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 > I just told him my breasts were sore and he gave me some keflex. When I was leaving, I noticed that was what he put on my chart. The blood test is not back yet. I gained the weight over a period of 15 months. He said a lot of different things (minor) could be the reason for the soreness. I think it will go away soon. My main problem is chronic prostatitis & an old injury to my left testicle. The ultrasound (scrotal) came back OK, but I'm having pain. It will take me a while to get used to this message board...confusing a bit. I have ADD also, and that makes things worse. I'm on central time, so it's 1:30AM. now. Thanks for your comment and concern. --Dale..Royw22- > > > >From: " Dale " <royw2@t...> > >Reply- > > > >Subject: Gynecomastia > How did he diganose your gyno? Did he do an estrogen blood test. Gaining > 83 pounds would give most men some extra breast development so breast > enlargement alone is not sufficient to diagnose gyno. > > Winter > > > >Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:01:39 -0000 > >I joined this group Sun 11Th, > >My Dr. diagnosed me with mild Gynecomastia and gave me keflex to last > >10 day's. I have chronic prostatitis also. He took a blood sample > >today to check my testosterone level. > > > >I am 44 y/o white male--6' 1 " 283 lb's, yeah the extra 83 has just > >been added since I got this PC a year ago. > >I would appreciate any advice. > >Thanks to " pmgamer18 " . He answered a question for me in another > >health site and gave me some good link's, this group was one of them. > >This group has so much mail, I had to change the way I get it. > >--Dale- > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Rethink your business approach for the new year with the helpful tips here. > http://special.msn.com/bcentral/prep04.armx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 True, T will actually become estrogen, it happens in all bodies and moreso at very high levels of T. However, this can be managed with an anti-e like arimidex or aromasin. That will control the aromatisation of T to E regardless of how much T is in, or is added to, the system! Armyguy > Your endo is right but it is also true that extremely high T results in > gyno. That is because high T converts over to estrogen. That is why some > pubescent boys develop breasts, not because they are low in T but because > they have high spikes of T and it is converting over to E. So, they have > both high T and E at the same time - just like body builders who abuse T. > > Winter > > > >From: " nort828 " <nort828@y...> > >Reply- > > > >Subject: gynecomastia > >Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:11:32 -0000 > > > >what causes it? My endo says it is a lack of testosterone, > >resulting in estrogen becoming dominant. Maybe. So it this were > >true, why is it that normally healthy weightlifters injecting > >testosterone get gynecomastia ? That would seem they have an EXCESS > >of testosterone would it not? > >nort828 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Take off on a romantic weekend or a family adventure to these great U.S. > locations. http://special.msn.com/local/hotdestinations.armx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 would indolplex with dim help prevent/reduce gynecomastia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 I feel it will prevent it from getting worse but will not get rid of it. Phil boyyy77 <niu_guy@...> wrote: would indolplex with dim help prevent/reduce gynecomastia? --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 Gyno is caused by a hormone imbalance. They will keep growing as long as you keep the hormone imbalance. Best to fix the problem before it gets worse. The only thing that I know of to reverse it is surgery.------ Fixing the hormone imbalance should cause breast tissue to disappear when estrogen (specifically estradiol or E2) levels are lowered sufficiently, without having to resort to surgery. As soon as we scrape together the $, we plan on trying very low levels of an aromatase inhibitor to try to reverse my husband's persistent gynecomastia (and excess weight which is also part of the insulin resistence cycle). I'm thinking that a quarter of a tablet per week is a reasonable starting dose for him since many men on TRT find a half a tab once or twice a week too strong, and my husband has only the testosterone that is naturally present in his body; he's not taking supplemental T. (I'm also wondering if grinding or fragmenting that 1/4 tablet so that tiny amounts can be consumed on a daily continuous basis might work better. Hormones are better utilized when administered in frequent smaller doses; not sure if the rule also applies to hormone blockers.) In addition to anastrozole (trade names: Arimidex, Altraz) there are 2 newly approved drugs with similar action: letrozole (trade names: Femara, Letroz) and exemestane (trade name: Aromasin) Generic letrozole seems to be the cheapest. If we have any luck with Arimidex or its " cousins " I'll post. I have been looking at DIIM but find most of the research on its actions to be inconclusive and contradictory. I think that selecting a drug with documented predictable aromatase inhibiting action is a safer bet. I'm hoping that very conservative dosing will avoid driving his E2 too low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 there are a lot of guys taking DIM I take Indolplex/DIM and my blood tests show that my E2 has come down and is staying down. You would be better off trying this does you husband have morning wood. I have not had them in over 35 yrs. I first got my E2 down on Arimidex .5 mgs. eveyday for 4 weeks then starting cutting the dose down I was doing 1/4 of a one mg. pill every 5 days and going to low. When I tryed Indolplex/DIM as per Z I got my morning wood back and so hard it wakes me up. I use this as a gauge to keep from going to low on my E2. When the wood stops it means my E2 is to low and I stop the DIM until the wood comes back then I go back on it but take Half the dose. http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html I need my levels higher and take a lot of T 150 mgs. of Depo T shots every week and 500 IU's of Hcg 3 times a week and I am keeping my E2 in the zone taking one half a tablet of Indolplex/DIM also I have added TMG to it to bring my Total E as per Dr. . Post and ask the guys how they are doing on DIM. Phil Summers <rsummers@...> wrote: Gyno is caused by a hormone imbalance. They will keep growing as long as you keep the hormone imbalance. Best to fix the problem before it gets worse. The only thing that I know of to reverse it is surgery.------ Fixing the hormone imbalance should cause breast tissue to disappear when estrogen (specifically estradiol or E2) levels are lowered sufficiently, without having to resort to surgery. As soon as we scrape together the $, we plan on trying very low levels of an aromatase inhibitor to try to reverse my husband's persistent gynecomastia (and excess weight which is also part of the insulin resistence cycle). I'm thinking that a quarter of a tablet per week is a reasonable starting dose for him since many men on TRT find a half a tab once or twice a week too strong, and my husband has only the testosterone that is naturally present in his body; he's not taking supplemental T. (I'm also wondering if grinding or fragmenting that 1/4 tablet so that tiny amounts can be consumed on a daily continuous basis might work better. Hormones are better utilized when administered in frequent smaller doses; not sure if the rule also applies to hormone blockers.) In addition to anastrozole (trade names: Arimidex, Altraz) there are 2 newly approved drugs with similar action: letrozole (trade names: Femara, Letroz) and exemestane (trade name: Aromasin) Generic letrozole seems to be the cheapest. If we have any luck with Arimidex or its " cousins " I'll post. I have been looking at DIIM but find most of the research on its actions to be inconclusive and contradictory. I think that selecting a drug with documented predictable aromatase inhibiting action is a safer bet. I'm hoping that very conservative dosing will avoid driving his E2 too low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Yes anything you take to get high Estradiol will fix gynecomastia as long as it's not breast tissue. Arimidex if you can get your Dr. to give it to you but PLEASE do labs to test your Estradiol first if it's not high and you take anything to lower it your can go down to low this is if not worse just as bad as being to high. If your Dr. will not treat this find a better one or get a supplement you can take Zinc I like NOW brand ZMA I take 3 at bedtime and zinc lower copper so I take 2mgs of Copper at lunch time every guy here needs Zinc the testis need this and we don't get it from the meat we eat that is corn fed. Now this will help keep Estradiol levels down a little but Indolplex/DIM will lower it it's sold OTC and works great take one tablet at dinner time get some TMG to help your liver wash out the high E's that get converted doing DIM. Links following. http://www.myvitanet.com/indolplex-with-dim-60-tab-phytopharmica.html http://www.myvitanet.com/tmgtr75120ca.html http://www.myvitanet.com/zmaanspre90c.html http://www.myvitanet.com/biocitrate-copper-2-mg-60-count-solaray.html http://www.dimfaq.com/index.htm The above links are where I get my supplements but the links are just for info. Co-Moderator Phil > From: lawil32 <lawil32@...> > Subject: gynecomastia > > Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 7:58 AM > on THT 7 yrs have mild > gynecomastia will Arimidex correct or reduce symptom is > anything helpful, Exclude operation > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 It might help some people, but DIM did nothing for me. > > would indolplex with dim help prevent/reduce gynecomastia? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 What kind did you use there is a lot of junk out there I found the only good one is Indolplex/DIM I tried a lot of brands this one worked. http://www.myvitanet.com/indolplex-with-dim-60-tab-phytopharmica.html But I was all ready down using arimidex I started at the time doing Indolplex/DIM because the arimidex was taking me to low doing .25 mgs every 5 days and the half life is 3 days. The Indolplex/DIM was even to strong I was taking a half a tablet a day. Co-Moderator Phil > From: esplinbj <no_reply > > Subject: Re: gynecomastia > > Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 12:16 PM > It might help some people, but DIM > did nothing for me. > > > > > > > would indolplex with dim help prevent/reduce > gynecomastia? > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I have used Nature's Way DIM Plus. It has BioResponse DIM, which is supposed to have good absorbtion. I don't know how it compares with Indolplex DIM. > > > > > > would indolplex with dim help prevent/reduce > > gynecomastia? > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Yes this is true thanks for that. Co-Moderator Phil > From: esplinbj <no_reply > > Subject: Re: gynecomastia > > Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 7:36 PM > It depends on what you are calling > gynecomastia. If all that's there is fat, then DIM, > Arimidex, or whatever wouldn't help because the fat isn't > there because of E2. Just losing weight should get rid > of it. If it's true gynecomastia with breast tissue > growth, then something to lower E2 should stop the > progression of it, but not necessarily reverse the breast > tissue growth, in which case surgery would be the only > treatment to get rid of the tissue. > > > > > > Tried DIMM for a long time, could not tell any > difference in > > anything. Stopped bothering with it years ago. > > > > Had liposuction surgery to suck fat out of > breasts, > > best think I ever did. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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