Re: Deprenyl - Two Words...

February 9, 2004

Yeah, I've been cheating a little on the cheese. But my dose is only

6 mg per day.

How long have you been taking deprenyl? Have you seen a difference?

y

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep hearing...... where do i

get

> >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> >

February 9, 2004

I started taking deprenyl about 10 years ago, but at a very low dose, for

possible life extension effects and protection against the development of

Parkinson's disease. My dose has been, probably, too low to have any

significant effect on libido, but I'll try a higher dose, now.

>From: scotty082865 <no_reply >

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Deprenyl - Two Words...

>Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 23:56:19 -0000

>

>Yeah, I've been cheating a little on the cheese. But my dose is only

>6 mg per day.

>

>How long have you been taking deprenyl? Have you seen a difference?

>

>y

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep hearing...... where do i

>get

> > >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > >

>

February 9, 2004

I'm as interested in the life extension aspects as I am in the

libido enhancement. Although both would be great.

Good luck.

y

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep hearing...... where

do i

> >get

> > > >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > >

> >

February 9, 2004

Wow! I don't know if I would give three of the best foods around up

for some deprenyl...

> > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep hearing...... where do i

get

> it?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > >

February 9, 2004

Life without Chocolate, Wine or Cheese???? That's no life at

all...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep hearing...... where

> do i

> > >get

> > > > >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple

weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

February 10, 2004

Like I've said earlier, I've cheated a little here and there and have

not found it effects me. At my dose, it likely will not be an issue

and I will certainly stay away from the wine as my doctor speficially

warned against that. I don't need the empty calories anyway.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep hearing......

where

> > do i

> > > >get

> > > > > >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple

> weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

February 10, 2004

Wine, empty calories! Not at all! Red wine contains resveratrol, a substance

that may help extend one's life and prevent Alzheimer's disease. Moderate

wine consumption lowers one's risk of heart disease, hypertension, etc.

Drink up!

>From: scotty082865 <no_reply >

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Deprenyl - Two Words...

>Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:59:08 -0000

>

>Like I've said earlier, I've cheated a little here and there and have

>not found it effects me. At my dose, it likely will not be an issue

>and I will certainly stay away from the wine as my doctor speficially

>warned against that. I don't need the empty calories anyway.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep hearing......

>where

> > > do i

> > > > >get

> > > > > > >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple

> > weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

>

February 10, 2004

I would rather eat the grapes or take a resveratrol suppliment. I

have an extensive wine collection but unfortunately have lost my

taste for it. Will probably end up selling it all. I will enjoy a

glass of red every once and a while at a party but just have found

the alcohol is no longer an attraction.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep hearing......

> >where

> > > > do i

> > > > > >get

> > > > > > > >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple

> > > weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> >

February 10, 2004

Dowling,

http://kilosports.com/ sells grape seed extract

" Grape Seed Extract

Notes: N/A

Type: Capsules 1000 count (50mg) $ 59.95

Product Summary

'Grape seed extract is a rich source of bioflavonoids. Of particulular

interest are the proanthocyanidins of the procyanidin type.

Proanthocyanidins (a.k.a. condensed tannins, oligomeric catechins) are

polymers (oligomers) of polyhydroxy flavan-3-ol units such as catechin and

epicatechin.

Owing to their protective effects on vascular structures,

proanthocyanidin-rich grape seed extract may be of use in the treatment of

venous insufficiency, edema, and other vascular disorders. A partially

purified proanthocyanidin extract comprising oligomers with degrees of

polymerization from 2 to 7 has been used in Europe to reduce blood vessel

fragility and permeability. Grape seed extract supplements have been

marketed in Australia, Japan, Korea and the US. In Japan, grape seed extract

is being used as a food additive.

Additional applications of grape seed extract may include:

--wound healing

--inflammation

--allergies

--oxidative stress

--regulation of cellular apoptosis (programmed cell death)

The antioxidant and vasodilating properties of grape seed extract make it

attractive as an adjunctive in the treatment of a host of

free-radical-associated chronic diseases including cardiovascular disease,

diabetes, and Alzheimer's.

Pataki et al. (2002), in examining the effects of grape seed

proanthocyanidins on rat hearts subjected to ischemia-reperfusion, comments

on the useful biological properties of these plant chemicals: " Although the

results of our study attribute the protective effects of proanthocyanidins

to their ability to eliminate hydroxyl radicals, other possibilities should

not be overlooked. Proanthocyanidins comprise a group of polyphenolic

bioflavonoids ubiquitously found in fruit and vegetables. In this context,

the effect of proanthocyanidins on intracellular calcium concentrations and

the possible biological effects of other components of the extract merit

discussion. Flavonoids may interact with intracellular calcium ions, leading

to a reduction in the ionized calcium content. By this mechanism, flavonoids

may increase the binding affinity of a substrate or improve the electron

transfer efficacy between NADPH ferrihemoprotein reductase and the P-450

enzyme (31), thereby providing further protection against

reperfusion-induced calcium overload. Thus, we believe that any simple

effect on intracellular calcium is likely to be relevant and important in

the protection observed in our model system. "

" The observation that proanthocyanidins are active when given as a 3-wk

pretreatment is of particular interest. Antioxidants, for example those

involved in the glutathione peroxidase system, can reduce hydroxyl radicals

to water. Thus, proanthocyanidins may not bind to the myocardium, but may

instead remain active for several days or weeks and act as a sink for

hydroxyl radicals. Furthermore, proanthocyanidins may act as a regenerator

of other antioxidants, keeping the concentrations of other antioxidants high

enough to affect the formation of hydroxyl radicals. It was shown by Cestaro

et al (32) that red wine increases concentrations of ascorbic acid and

-tocopherol, 2 major antioxidants, in the body. In addition, Roig et al (33)

showed that red wine consumption by rats enhanced catalase glutathione

peroxidase activity and lowered the ratio of reduced to oxidized

glutathione. "

" The ability of proanthocyanidins to improve the functional recovery of the

heart and reduce the incidence of arrhythmias after a period of global

ischemia could have valuable applications during routine cardiac surgery and

might also be useful in cardiac transplantation. This statement is supported

by Feng et al (8), who found that long-term consumption of red and white

wine decreases intimal thickening after balloon injury in cholesterol-fed

rabbits. The ethanol content, as well as the phenolic antioxidants, in red

wine might be responsible for these favorable effects. Because antioxidants

were shown to effectively inhibit neointimal thickening and macrophage

accumulation in animals (34) and to reduce restenosis after balloon

angioplasty in humans (35), it would be worthwhile to determine whether red

wine might alter restenosis after coronary angioplasty. Finally, the

extrapolation of our results, obtained in isolated rat hearts, to an actual

clinical situation should be viewed with some caution because of the absence

of blood and its elements in our model system. "

REFERENCES

Pataki T, Bak I, Kovacs P et al. (2002). Grape seed proanthocyanidins

improved cardiac recovery during reperfusion after ischemia in isolated rat

hearts. Am J Clin Nutr, 75: 894.

Suggested Doses

100 to 200 mg daily for 7 to 10 days, then 60 to 100 mg daily, or as

desired. Usage ranges from 30 mg per day (venous-lymphatic insufficiency) to

300 mg per day (eye stress from use of video display terminal) in studies

reporting significant results.

Safety Issues

Grapeseed extract is non-toxic both in acute dosage (LD50>4,000 mg/kg in

rats and mice) and high long-term dosage (no toxic effects at 60 mg/kg/day

for 12 months in dogs and six months in rats). They have no potential for

causing mutations for birth defects, and have no adverse effect on

fertility, pregnancy, or nursing.

Yamakoshi et al. (2002) reported that the " no-observed-adverse-effect level "

of grape seed extract in a subchronic toxicity study was 2% in the diet

(equal to 1410 mg/kg body weight/day in males and 1501 mg/kg body weight/day

in females). Thus, " The results of our studies indicate a lack of toxicity

and support the use of proanthocyanidin-rich extract from grape seeds for

various foods. " (Yamakoshi et al., 2002). Similar studies have come to the

same conclusion.

Whole-body glutamine appearance in plasma may amount to up to 60-100 g per

day for a 70-kg man (Nurjhan et al., 1995). Thus, to produce a noticeable

effect, a multi-gram dose of glutamine is expected to be required.

These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug

Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or

prevent any disease. "

OR eon

GayMan

Re: Deprenyl - Two Words...

>Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:59:08 -0000

>

>Like I've said earlier, I've cheated a little here and there and have

>not found it effects me. At my dose, it likely will not be an issue

>and I will certainly stay away from the wine as my doctor speficially

>warned against that. I don't need the empty calories anyway.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep hearing......

>where

> > > do i

> > > > >get

> > > > > > >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple

> > weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

>

February 10, 2004

Yeah, yeah. But most epidemiological studies of disease, survival, etc. have

shown that nutrients derived from real foods (tomatos vs. lycopene

supplementation for example) usually display superior health benefits vs.

those associated with supplementatioin.

I do actually take grape seed extract, as well as drink red wine, eat lots

of fruits and veggies, exercise, all that......

Do everything; believe in nothing!

>From: " oreon " <oreon@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: RE: Re: Deprenyl - Two Words...

>Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:57:13 -0600

>

> Dowling,

>

>http://kilosports.com/ sells grape seed extract

>

> " Grape Seed Extract

>Notes: N/A

>Type: Capsules 1000 count (50mg) $ 59.95

>

>Product Summary

>

>'Grape seed extract is a rich source of bioflavonoids. Of particulular

>interest are the proanthocyanidins of the procyanidin type.

>Proanthocyanidins (a.k.a. condensed tannins, oligomeric catechins) are

>polymers (oligomers) of polyhydroxy flavan-3-ol units such as catechin and

>epicatechin.

>

>Owing to their protective effects on vascular structures,

>proanthocyanidin-rich grape seed extract may be of use in the treatment of

>venous insufficiency, edema, and other vascular disorders. A partially

>purified proanthocyanidin extract comprising oligomers with degrees of

>polymerization from 2 to 7 has been used in Europe to reduce blood vessel

>fragility and permeability. Grape seed extract supplements have been

>marketed in Australia, Japan, Korea and the US. In Japan, grape seed

>extract

>is being used as a food additive.

>

>Additional applications of grape seed extract may include:

>

>--wound healing

>

>--inflammation

>

>--allergies

>

>--oxidative stress

>

>--regulation of cellular apoptosis (programmed cell death)

>

>The antioxidant and vasodilating properties of grape seed extract make it

>attractive as an adjunctive in the treatment of a host of

>free-radical-associated chronic diseases including cardiovascular disease,

>diabetes, and Alzheimer's.

>

>Pataki et al. (2002), in examining the effects of grape seed

>proanthocyanidins on rat hearts subjected to ischemia-reperfusion, comments

>on the useful biological properties of these plant chemicals: " Although the

>results of our study attribute the protective effects of proanthocyanidins

>to their ability to eliminate hydroxyl radicals, other possibilities should

>not be overlooked. Proanthocyanidins comprise a group of polyphenolic

>bioflavonoids ubiquitously found in fruit and vegetables. In this context,

>the effect of proanthocyanidins on intracellular calcium concentrations and

>the possible biological effects of other components of the extract merit

>discussion. Flavonoids may interact with intracellular calcium ions,

>leading

>to a reduction in the ionized calcium content. By this mechanism,

>flavonoids

>may increase the binding affinity of a substrate or improve the electron

>transfer efficacy between NADPH ferrihemoprotein reductase and the P-450

>enzyme (31), thereby providing further protection against

>reperfusion-induced calcium overload. Thus, we believe that any simple

>effect on intracellular calcium is likely to be relevant and important in

>the protection observed in our model system. "

>

> " The observation that proanthocyanidins are active when given as a 3-wk

>pretreatment is of particular interest. Antioxidants, for example those

>involved in the glutathione peroxidase system, can reduce hydroxyl radicals

>to water. Thus, proanthocyanidins may not bind to the myocardium, but may

>instead remain active for several days or weeks and act as a sink for

>hydroxyl radicals. Furthermore, proanthocyanidins may act as a regenerator

>of other antioxidants, keeping the concentrations of other antioxidants

>high

>enough to affect the formation of hydroxyl radicals. It was shown by

>Cestaro

>et al (32) that red wine increases concentrations of ascorbic acid and

>-tocopherol, 2 major antioxidants, in the body. In addition, Roig et al

>(33)

>showed that red wine consumption by rats enhanced catalase glutathione

>peroxidase activity and lowered the ratio of reduced to oxidized

>glutathione. "

>

> " The ability of proanthocyanidins to improve the functional recovery of the

>heart and reduce the incidence of arrhythmias after a period of global

>ischemia could have valuable applications during routine cardiac surgery

>and

>might also be useful in cardiac transplantation. This statement is

>supported

>by Feng et al (8), who found that long-term consumption of red and white

>wine decreases intimal thickening after balloon injury in cholesterol-fed

>rabbits. The ethanol content, as well as the phenolic antioxidants, in red

>wine might be responsible for these favorable effects. Because antioxidants

>were shown to effectively inhibit neointimal thickening and macrophage

>accumulation in animals (34) and to reduce restenosis after balloon

>angioplasty in humans (35), it would be worthwhile to determine whether red

>wine might alter restenosis after coronary angioplasty. Finally, the

>extrapolation of our results, obtained in isolated rat hearts, to an actual

>clinical situation should be viewed with some caution because of the

>absence

>of blood and its elements in our model system. "

>

>REFERENCES

>

>Pataki T, Bak I, Kovacs P et al. (2002). Grape seed proanthocyanidins

>improved cardiac recovery during reperfusion after ischemia in isolated rat

>hearts. Am J Clin Nutr, 75: 894.

>

>Suggested Doses

>100 to 200 mg daily for 7 to 10 days, then 60 to 100 mg daily, or as

>desired. Usage ranges from 30 mg per day (venous-lymphatic insufficiency)

>to

>300 mg per day (eye stress from use of video display terminal) in studies

>reporting significant results.

>

>Safety Issues

>Grapeseed extract is non-toxic both in acute dosage (LD50>4,000 mg/kg in

>rats and mice) and high long-term dosage (no toxic effects at 60 mg/kg/day

>for 12 months in dogs and six months in rats). They have no potential for

>causing mutations for birth defects, and have no adverse effect on

>fertility, pregnancy, or nursing.

>

>Yamakoshi et al. (2002) reported that the " no-observed-adverse-effect

>level "

>of grape seed extract in a subchronic toxicity study was 2% in the diet

>(equal to 1410 mg/kg body weight/day in males and 1501 mg/kg body

>weight/day

>in females). Thus, " The results of our studies indicate a lack of toxicity

>and support the use of proanthocyanidin-rich extract from grape seeds for

>various foods. " (Yamakoshi et al., 2002). Similar studies have come to the

>same conclusion.

>

>Whole-body glutamine appearance in plasma may amount to up to 60-100 g per

>day for a 70-kg man (Nurjhan et al., 1995). Thus, to produce a noticeable

>effect, a multi-gram dose of glutamine is expected to be required.

>

>These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug

>Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or

>prevent any disease. "

>

>OR eon

>GayMan

>

> Re: Deprenyl - Two Words...

> >Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:59:08 -0000

> >

> >Like I've said earlier, I've cheated a little here and there and have

> >not found it effects me. At my dose, it likely will not be an issue

> >and I will certainly stay away from the wine as my doctor speficially

> >warned against that. I don't need the empty calories anyway.

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep hearing......

> >where

> > > > do i

> > > > > >get

> > > > > > > >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple

> > > weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> >

>

February 10, 2004

Maybe you oughta try anti-depression therapy of some sort. Sounds like you

may have some kind of anhedonia thing goin' on (not trying to be critical,

really)

>From: scotty082865 <no_reply >

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Deprenyl - Two Words...

>Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:31:06 -0000

>

>I would rather eat the grapes or take a resveratrol suppliment. I

>have an extensive wine collection but unfortunately have lost my

>taste for it. Will probably end up selling it all. I will enjoy a

>glass of red every once and a while at a party but just have found

>the alcohol is no longer an attraction.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep hearing......

> > >where

> > > > > do i

> > > > > > >get

> > > > > > > > >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple

> > > > weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

>

February 10, 2004

More wine and resveratrol stuff. So far, it appear, the supplements of it

may not be the greatest, anyway:

http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/040106a.asp

>From: scotty082865 <no_reply >

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Deprenyl - Two Words...

>Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:31:06 -0000

>

>I would rather eat the grapes or take a resveratrol suppliment. I

>have an extensive wine collection but unfortunately have lost my

>taste for it. Will probably end up selling it all. I will enjoy a

>glass of red every once and a while at a party but just have found

>the alcohol is no longer an attraction.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep hearing......

> > >where

> > > > > do i

> > > > > > >get

> > > > > > > > >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple

> > > > weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

>

February 10, 2004

y,

Is 6mg/day considered a low dose?

And do you see any effects on your sex drive?

How does it compare to Proviron?

I am very interested

Thanks

>From: scotty082865 <no_reply >

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Deprenyl - Two Words...

>Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:59:08 -0000

>

>Like I've said earlier, I've cheated a little here and there and have

>not found it effects me. At my dose, it likely will not be an issue

>and I will certainly stay away from the wine as my doctor speficially

>warned against that. I don't need the empty calories anyway.

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep hearing......

>where

> > > do i

> > > > >get

> > > > > > >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple

> > weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

>

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February 11, 2004

Wow, so you think I have an inability to gain pleasure from normally

pleasurable experiences? Interesting. I just thought I didn't like

wine anymore. :-)

The truth of the matter is, I'm one of those crazy health nuts. I'm

very type-A and tend to go all out on just about every aspect of my

life. 2.5 years ago I hit my target weight and began living again

having lost 145 lbs (320 to 175). Since then I have become very

critical about what I put into my body. Especially food and drugs.

Alcohol is a drug, which is not a bad thing, but something that I

find I no longer enjoy. Far from anhedonia. I find I enjoy so many

more things now that I never could or did when eating and drinking my

life away.

Thanks for your thoughts though.

y

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep

hearing......

> > > >where

> > > > > > do i

> > > > > > > >get

> > > > > > > > > >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple

> > > > > weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > >

> >

February 11, 2004

I'm not sure if 6 mg is a low dose or not. On the sex thing, I find

I think of it more but feelt hat the real benifit for me has been

from the mental focus aspect. Proviron was more intense for me

sexually but the jury is still out for me on deprenyl for libido. I

think it has real promise. But I want to take it slow.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep hearing......

> >where

> > > > do i

> > > > > >get

> > > > > > > >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple

> > > weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> >

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February 11, 2004

No offense or critisim intend. I was merely speculating- inaccurately,

obviously. I figured since you had a big wine collection, I figured you had

merely lost interest in one of your previously favorite things.

I'm kind of a health nazi myself. Haven't missed a daily workout in more

years than I can remember. Eat no sugar or refined foods; used to be a

fairly strict vegetarian, etc.

But you may be missing some health benefits with moderate red wine

consumption.

>From: scotty082865 <no_reply >

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Deprenyl - Two Words...

>Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:36:36 -0000

>

>Wow, so you think I have an inability to gain pleasure from normally

>pleasurable experiences? Interesting. I just thought I didn't like

>wine anymore. :-)

>

>The truth of the matter is, I'm one of those crazy health nuts. I'm

>very type-A and tend to go all out on just about every aspect of my

>life. 2.5 years ago I hit my target weight and began living again

>having lost 145 lbs (320 to 175). Since then I have become very

>critical about what I put into my body. Especially food and drugs.

>Alcohol is a drug, which is not a bad thing, but something that I

>find I no longer enjoy. Far from anhedonia. I find I enjoy so many

>more things now that I never could or did when eating and drinking my

>life away.

>

>Thanks for your thoughts though.

>

>y

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep

>hearing......

> > > > >where

> > > > > > > do i

> > > > > > > > >get

> > > > > > > > > > >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a couple

> > > > > > weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

>

February 11, 2004

No problem. No offense taken. Your diet and workout schedule sounds

like mine so you know where I am.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what i keep

> >hearing......

> > > > > >where

> > > > > > > > do i

> > > > > > > > > >get

> > > > > > > > > > > >it?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will update on HGH in a

couple

> > > > > > > weeks....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> >

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