Re: Don't know what to do next...

[Guest guest]

Hi, Steve-

Your next step is to find a doctor who knows what he's doing!

Stay tuned, we'll help.

Never give up,

Bruce

> Hi Guys,

>

> Update, Im one of the one's on this list who are still suffering

from

> the side effects of propecia even after quitting the drug for 4

years.

>

> I just got back from my doctor and I had my T levels checked

and it

> came back high on one test and on another test T levels came

back mid

> low. He said T levels flucate, so its not too accurate a test,

when I

> asked him if it was possible that there was an error in one of

the

> test. Im going to go down to Quest Labs, to get my DHT levels

tested

> in the US, Im from Canada. He said he doesn't know how to

treat me, I

> really don't know as well anymore, all I know is Im really

frustrated

> and don't know how to deal with things anymore.

>

> I asked him about HGH and he said, there isn't enough

medical

> literature to support using it for my condition, I also asked if he

> would give Phil's doctor a call, and he said he wouldn't he said

he

> has to see proof from research reports that HGH works before

he would

> even consider it.

>

> I really don't know anymore, I really don't know how to live my

life

> like this. I really don't know what my next step will be...

>

> Steve

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bruce,

I'll have to keep on looking, he was suppose to be the top

endochrinologist in Vancouver, and when I asked him about why levels

flactuated so much about 300 points, he said T isn't an accurate

indicator. He said even my low T levels were within range and there

really isn't much he could do for me. I'll have to try to find

another endochrinologist, that would prescribe some clomiphene and

HCG atleast to see if it would help my symptoms...

Thanks!!

> > Hi Guys,

> >

> > Update, Im one of the one's on this list who are still suffering

> from

> > the side effects of propecia even after quitting the drug for 4

> years.

> >

> > I just got back from my doctor and I had my T levels checked

> and it

> > came back high on one test and on another test T levels came

> back mid

> > low. He said T levels flucate, so its not too accurate a test,

> when I

> > asked him if it was possible that there was an error in one of

> the

> > test. Im going to go down to Quest Labs, to get my DHT levels

> tested

> > in the US, Im from Canada. He said he doesn't know how to

> treat me, I

> > really don't know as well anymore, all I know is Im really

> frustrated

> > and don't know how to deal with things anymore.

> >

> > I asked him about HGH and he said, there isn't enough

> medical

> > literature to support using it for my condition, I also asked if

he

> > would give Phil's doctor a call, and he said he wouldn't he said

> he

> > has to see proof from research reports that HGH works before

> he would

> > even consider it.

> >

> > I really don't know anymore, I really don't know how to live my

> life

> > like this. I really don't know what my next step will be...

> >

> > Steve

[Guest guest]

Hi Steve,

I went though two board-certified endocrinologists, and they

were just as stupid as yours. My point is an endocrinologist may

not be the way to go, unless he's managed to rise above his

education. All reason would suggest that a specialist in glands

and hormones would know about hypogonadism and could

provide good clinical treatment. This is simply not the case.

The doctor I finally found is a D.O. who truly understands all

about male hormone modulation. You wouldn't know that from

his " official " specialty: clinical cardiology.

I started searching for a new doctor about two months ago. First I

found and joined this group. Then I took advice from here and

called a manufacturer of testosterone pellets. They gave me the

names of several doctors nearby (pellets might not be what

you're looking for, but a doctor is knowledgable about them, he is

likely to be knowledgeable about other therapies).

I called Bartor Pharmical in Rye, NY, 914-967-4219. Another very

helpful outfit is Collage Pharmacy in Colorado,

800-888-9358 or 719-262-0022.

My first appointment with my new doc was 5 weeks ago, and his

treatment has turned my life around.

Please know that your confusion and frustration are a

predictable result of your condition, aggrevated by a bad doctor's

attitude. Improvement will be found.

Steve, you won't believe what a marvelous relief it is to have a

competent doctor until you've finally found one. There's one out

there for you, perhaps closer to your area than you know. If you

look hard, with confidence, you'll find one. I promise.

Best,

Bruce

> > > Hi Guys,

> > >

> > > Update, Im one of the one's on this list who are still

suffering

> > from

> > > the side effects of propecia even after quitting the drug for 4

> > years.

> > >

> > > I just got back from my doctor and I had my T levels

checked

> > and it

> > > came back high on one test and on another test T levels

came

> > back mid

> > > low. He said T levels flucate, so its not too accurate a test,

> > when I

> > > asked him if it was possible that there was an error in one

of

> > the

> > > test. Im going to go down to Quest Labs, to get my DHT

levels

> > tested

> > > in the US, Im from Canada. He said he doesn't know how

to

> > treat me, I

> > > really don't know as well anymore, all I know is Im really

> > frustrated

> > > and don't know how to deal with things anymore.

> > >

> > > I asked him about HGH and he said, there isn't enough

> > medical

> > > literature to support using it for my condition, I also asked if

> he

> > > would give Phil's doctor a call, and he said he wouldn't he

said

> > he

> > > has to see proof from research reports that HGH works

before

> > he would

> > > even consider it.

> > >

> > > I really don't know anymore, I really don't know how to live

my

> > life

> > > like this. I really don't know what my next step will be...

> > >

> > > Steve

[Guest guest]

Hi Bruce,

The frustration was that all the doctors I've been to said he's the

top guy around, and when I went to see him, he didn't seem to want to

try anything, I understand he's busy, but my appt with him lasted

less then 15 minutes and he said he wasn't gonna try anything, that

just left an empty feeling in my stomach. My main concern is that I

start feeling better again.

Im also seeing a MD who's also a naturopath at the moment with, he

seems very like he's very willing to help. But I don't know how much

he knows about propecia side effects, atleast I know he cares.

Thanks Bruce, I hope this naturopath will do the trick and get me

back to normal again.

Sincerely,

Steve

> > > > Hi Guys,

> > > >

> > > > Update, Im one of the one's on this list who are still

> suffering

> > > from

> > > > the side effects of propecia even after quitting the drug for

4

> > > years.

> > > >

> > > > I just got back from my doctor and I had my T levels

> checked

> > > and it

> > > > came back high on one test and on another test T levels

> came

> > > back mid

> > > > low. He said T levels flucate, so its not too accurate a

test,

> > > when I

> > > > asked him if it was possible that there was an error in one

> of

> > > the

> > > > test. Im going to go down to Quest Labs, to get my DHT

> levels

> > > tested

> > > > in the US, Im from Canada. He said he doesn't know how

> to

> > > treat me, I

> > > > really don't know as well anymore, all I know is Im really

> > > frustrated

> > > > and don't know how to deal with things anymore.

> > > >

> > > > I asked him about HGH and he said, there isn't enough

> > > medical

> > > > literature to support using it for my condition, I also asked

if

> > he

> > > > would give Phil's doctor a call, and he said he wouldn't he

> said

> > > he

> > > > has to see proof from research reports that HGH works

> before

> > > he would

> > > > even consider it.

> > > >

> > > > I really don't know anymore, I really don't know how to live

> my

> > > life

> > > > like this. I really don't know what my next step will be...

> > > >

> > > > Steve