Reducing E2 Increases Testosterone Alot

[Guest guest]

I had very high E2 and when I found it I was taking 10 grams of Testim per day

and getting a 200 mg shot every other week. When we got my E2 down my Free T

and Total T shot way up. So we cut out the shots my last test doing just testim

it is still very high. We may cut back to 5 grams per day. As far as I can see

if you have high E2 it is very hard to get you T levels up. Be it through your

testis or from meds.

Phil

modestman3 <no_reply > wrote:

I am more impressed but still left a little flat. The study was

conducted on older men. BUT, they did not have especially low T to

start with. The intial levels were not low for their age group and

are low normal for a man in his 20s. The study smacks of cherry-

picking high responder candidates.

Nevertheless, the study shows that suppression of E2 should be the

first therapeutic course of action after ruling out illness.

> > >

> > >>

> > >>Funny you should mention that list. I called one of the docs

on

> the

> > >>list that was ten miles away. She had never heard of the

> > >>organization that was sponsoring this and wasn't taking new

> patients

> > >>for TRT. The bulk of the other docs are 100 miles away, but I

> may

> > >>make a few calls. The endo doc I'm seeing right now is

willing

> to

> > >>work with on keeping my levels at the top and getting the

right

> blood

> > >>tests. I would like to find one that considers E2 levels an

> > >>important hormone to check as well. Thanks!

> > >

> > >I've got an article some where on what's called E2 and

> Testosterone

> > >cross talk from a medical journal. Let me look for it.

> > >

> > >If I don't post in the next day or two give me a reminder nudge.

> >

> > Here's a couple. My thinking is if you can show your endo these

to

> > help her focus on it. Also there's an article in the files

> section or

> > link section about older males have low T treated by only

> addressing

> > heir E2 levels with Arimidex.

> >

> > http://www.asiaandro.com/1008-682X/5/307.htm

> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=12699299 & dopt=Abstract

> >

> >

> > - - - -

> > Just another albino black sheep

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Unless E2 is normal, right? We all need E2, just not too much of it.

Mark

>

> Nevertheless, the study shows that suppression of E2 should be the

> first therapeutic course of action after ruling out illness.

[Guest guest]

Hi Mark

According to the study, many of them didn't have extraordinary high

levels of estradiol. It seems like the highest they would of been at

prior to using Arimidex was 34 pg/mL, but the numbers could be

misleading without a range given.

Serum estradiol levels decreased from 26 +/- 8 to 17 +/- 6 pg/ml in

group 1 and from 27 +/- 8 to 17 +/- 5 pg/ml in group 2

> Unless E2 is normal, right? We all need E2, just not too much of

it.

>

> Mark

>

> >

> > Nevertheless, the study shows that suppression of E2 should be

the

> > first therapeutic course of action after ruling out illness.