Joint Pain ? Phil? Others?

[Guest guest]

I started with the patch about 10 years ago, then AndroGel about 4

years ago. Since then I have developed severe joint pain in the

ankles, knees, & shoulders. Xrays are clean of any spurs, arthritis,

or causes that 4 differents doctors might think causes it. The last

bone/joint doctor said I just needed more exercise.

Then as I was reviewing this group I saw a passing remark about Joint

Pain & hormones, brain fog, & muscle ache.

My pain is so bad sometimes I can not walk. Vioxx helped it, Bextra

helps it, Celebrex, asprin, ibupropin, naproxin do not help.

I think Phil may have hit on a problem that many of us have. I hope

he will expand on the subject since he seemed to keep a record of his

treatments & conditions.

What levels of " T " , " E " , & other hormones or precursors lessened the

joint pain?

Did others get rid of joint pain with proper levels of hormones?

This seems to need more study & the doctors just ignore any thing

new. I think most of them are deaf anyway. They never listen to a

patient.