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I've taken adderall in the past for adult add. Its pure speed and it

will do damge to you long term just as anyother stimulant will. If

you dont think you need it, dont take it. I too could sleep after

taking adderall. Speed gives a quick boost but ultimately sucks the

life out individules. Ever seen a crank addict? They get skin

blisters and their teeth fall out from nutrient depletion. Cant

advise against adderall enough.

As far as taking the other meds, you really need to get some tests

done to find out if you need it or not. What you're doing is driving

in the dark with no lights or gauges. You may get to where you're

going but most likely, your gonna get hurt in a crash.

Sounds like you may have CFS. You shuld get a new doctor even if you

have to pay out of pocket.

Chris

> Dr put me on Testim 50mg a day for low T (270). No other tests

yet.

> I also take 30mg Adderall twice/day for Adult ADD. I don't think

I

> have ADD, but I scored high enough for the meds. I was hoping for

> some energy, sometimes I get a burst after taking the adderall but

> like this morning - woke at 7am took 30mg Adderall(amphtimine)

went

> back to bed at 8:30am woke up at 10am. I don't know anyone that

can

> take an amphtimine and then go to sleep. After reading several

posts

> and other resources, I started taking 50mg DHEA pills to lower my

E

> (even though I haven't been tested yet) I also started taking

500mg

> pill of Acetyl-L-Carnitine and flax seed oil pills. I am

desperate -

> I am always tired and taking naps, I haven't worked a full day

since

> April. The Dr sent me for a sleep study since I use a cpap

machine

> and it seems that everything is normal, I just need to increase

the

> pressure a little. I could really use some advise from you guys.

>

> BTW, does anyone know if it is okay to put on baby powder on after

I

> apply the Testim gel? The gel sticks to my shirts, even after it

> dries. I tried powder twice and liked it since it makes the

> stickiness go away. I just didn't know if the powder could be

> harmful since I am putting it over a transdermal medicine.

>

> Thanks for listening, I have learned a lot from this group since

the

> end of june.

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:36:02 -0000, you wrote:

>I've taken adderall in the past for adult add. Its pure speed and it

>will do damge to you long term just as anyother stimulant will. If

>you dont think you need it, dont take it.

Question if low T is the reason they think you had ADD and needed the

stimulant. Many here were on anti-depressants till they were diagnosed

with low T. Once they got their hormones right they found the

anti-depressants were unnecessary (and may always have been

unnecessary).

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One more note, I've read many antidepressants actually mess up the

hormones more so becareful with using anti depressants..

>

> >I've taken adderall in the past for adult add. Its pure speed and

it

> >will do damge to you long term just as anyother stimulant will. If

> >you dont think you need it, dont take it.

>

>

> Question if low T is the reason they think you had ADD and needed

the

> stimulant. Many here were on anti-depressants till they were

diagnosed

> with low T. Once they got their hormones right they found the

> anti-depressants were unnecessary (and may always have been

> unnecessary).

>

> - - - -

> Just another albino black sheep

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Oops, forgot to mention the antidepressants. I've been on different

ones for the past 15 years. Right now Effexor and Wellbutrin.

That's why I was excited to hear that having low T is possibly the

problem I have for so long and that it can be fixed. I am 40 years

old now and noticed in the past 6 months my strength has really gone

down, more tired than usual, taking 2-3 naps everyday. Called a Dr

instead of my psychiatrist and explained to him the problems. He

wanted to check my T level and put me on the Testim. While talking

to him, I told him about an online test that I took showing that I

might be ADD. He gave me a similar test and put me on Straterra, but

it caused my prostate to hurt, so now I am taking the Testim,

Effexor, Wellbutrin and Adderall. I just don't understand how I can

take stimulants and still be tired.

>

> >I've taken adderall in the past for adult add. Its pure speed and

it

> >will do damge to you long term just as anyother stimulant will. If

> >you dont think you need it, dont take it.

>

>

> Question if low T is the reason they think you had ADD and needed

the

> stimulant. Many here were on anti-depressants till they were

diagnosed

> with low T. Once they got their hormones right they found the

> anti-depressants were unnecessary (and may always have been

> unnecessary).

>

> - - - -

> Just another albino black sheep

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I suggest that you find out why you have low T. Is it genetic, are you

getting up in the years, or are you sick.

For me, I was sick with iron overload (hemochromatosis). This is one of the

most common genetic diseases and the easiest to treat (giving blood). You can

accurately test for hemochromatosis only through a test for " ferritin " . Of

course, this is listed in the AACE guidelines which can be found in the links

section.

What is your T on testim? It may not be high enough.

I was also extraordinarily fatigued when my T was below 300. When it was 400

I was depressed and also very tired.

You need to find out what is causing your low T and then get lots of labs

while you are beginning your treatment.

Best,

In a message dated 7/27/2004 4:19:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

no_reply writes:

Dr put me on Testim 50mg a day for low T (270). No other tests yet.

I also take 30mg Adderall twice/day for Adult ADD. I don't think I

have ADD, but I scored high enough for the meds. I was hoping for

some energy, sometimes I get a burst after taking the adderall but

like this morning - woke at 7am took 30mg Adderall(amphtimine) went

back to bed at 8:30am woke up at 10am. I don't know anyone that can

take an amphtimine and then go to sleep. After reading several posts

and other resources, I started taking 50mg DHEA pills to lower my E

(even though I haven't been tested yet) I also started taking 500mg

pill of Acetyl-L-Carnitine and flax seed oil pills. I am desperate -

I am always tired and taking naps, I haven't worked a full day since

April. The Dr sent me for a sleep study since I use a cpap machine

and it seems that everything is normal, I just need to increase the

pressure a little. I could really use some advise from you guys.

BTW, does anyone know if it is okay to put on baby powder on after I

apply the Testim gel? The gel sticks to my shirts, even after it

dries. I tried powder twice and liked it since it makes the

stickiness go away. I just didn't know if the powder could be

harmful since I am putting it over a transdermal medicine.

Thanks for listening, I have learned a lot from this group since the

end of june.

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Kenny when u say Straterra caused ur prostate to hurt..how can u

tell? What kind of feeling do u experience

> >

> > >I've taken adderall in the past for adult add. Its pure speed

and

> it

> > >will do damge to you long term just as anyother stimulant will.

If

> > >you dont think you need it, dont take it.

> >

> >

> > Question if low T is the reason they think you had ADD and needed

> the

> > stimulant. Many here were on anti-depressants till they were

> diagnosed

> > with low T. Once they got their hormones right they found the

> > anti-depressants were unnecessary (and may always have been

> > unnecessary).

> >

> > - - - -

> > Just another albino black sheep

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My boyfriend tried Straterra. He had to discontinue the drug because

it caused him pain that seemed to come from the bladder.

Brad

> > >

> > > >I've taken adderall in the past for adult add. Its pure speed

> and

> > it

> > > >will do damge to you long term just as anyother stimulant will.

> If

> > > >you dont think you need it, dont take it.

> > >

> > >

> > > Question if low T is the reason they think you had ADD and needed

> > the

> > > stimulant. Many here were on anti-depressants till they were

> > diagnosed

> > > with low T. Once they got their hormones right they found the

> > > anti-depressants were unnecessary (and may always have been

> > > unnecessary).

> > >

> > > - - - -

> > > Just another albino black sheep

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