Re: Re: Prostate Cancer and TRT

[Guest guest]

HI Bob what are you just curious I am a retired Auto Engineer.

Phil

Bob <ballen3_2000@...> wrote:

I am sure some of the benifits of hcG are psycological. When a man(

i am being generic and everyone is different) finds out that he has

low testosterone a lot goes through his mind. I am still a real man?

what is wrong with my Jewels? Then he starts on TRT, fells better,

but notices changes in those jewels. Changes could be shrinking

and/or just a loss of sensation. This does a number on his head.

Add hcG into the picture and the jewels get there feeling back and

swell back up. It gives him his manhood back. Men can deal with a

problem in there head much ezier then a problem in the plumbing.

Just my opinion,

Bob. Not a Dr.

> Dr. and my endo add in HCG if you are secondary after getting

> levels up with TRT. I would imagine if you are secondary it will

> boost natural testosterone production. If you are primary I would

> think you would see no difference. Supposedly many men feel

better on

> the combo - not sure what all it improves exactly, though.

>

> Mark

>

> >

> > Fertility isn't a concern. Testicular volume might be an

interest

> > but if the size of the " boys " is all I get out of it, I'm have

my

> > doubts about the real benefit. Will it improve ejaculate volume

and

> > other sexual performance effects?

> >

[Guest guest]

I have to use merk-medco too I think when I asked my Dr. to try Hcg he must have

thought that I said HGH because Hcg is not that much money.

Phil

Bob <ballen3_2000@...> wrote:

This stuff is really cheap now. 10,000 IUs are about $35.00 from a

local pharmacy before your ins pays anything. From the internet you

can get it 15,000 IUs for $48.00

Remember the does people are recommending are 200-500 IUs 3x/week.

a 10,000 IU amp should last 6 to 8 weeks.

With my insurance using merk-medco is my prescription plan.

Help

Patient: Bobby

(Date of Birth: 07/20/1967)

Medication: Chor Gonadot Pwd/Inj W/Dil (Generic) Pkg. size: 1ea.

Vial 10,000u Various

Using Your When Days' Supply† Qty† Plan pays You pay*

Retail Pharmacy First three fills 30 1 $28.10 $7.03

Retail Pharmacy After third fill 30 1 $0.00 $35.13

Medco Health Home Delivery

Pharmacy Service each fill 90 3 $68.40 $17.10

> > > I've already been through a three week stretch in no-TRT hell

> and my

> > > arrogant endo didn't do any testing, just put me right back on

> > > injections.

> >

> > If you intend to use exogenous t regardless of primary vs

> secondary,

> > there is no need to find that stuff out. That's probably why.

> >

> > > Short of repeating that torture is there any way to

> > > distinguish primary from secondary?

> > >

> > Sorry, but I cannot think of a reliable method of sorting that

out

> > while on injections.

> >

> > If you are going with the combo treatment (hcg + test), I don't

> think

> > you have to distinguish primary from secondary. If you want to

go

> on

> > hcg alone you'll need to be secondary. If you wanted, you could

> > simply discontinue the exogenous test and commence with hcg at

> > more-or-less the same time. If your test level falls too far

over

> the

> > next few weeks, you'll know that you are primary since the hcg

> > treatment is failing. That is effectively an hcg stimulation

test

> > (see AACE clinical guidelines) without the customary baseline t

> > reading. That's probably not a huge problem since you likely

know

> > your approx t levels without treatment anyway. In the end, hcg

> alone

> > will be able to keep you at asymptomatic t levels or it won't and

> > you'll know in a few weeks. I have no idea of appropriate hcg

> doses

> > in this circumstance. If hcg alone fails, then you could re-

> introduce

> > exogenous t. The only advantage would be a shorter low t crash

> than

> > withdrawing all treatment for 3 or 4 weeks for diagnostic

testing.

> >

> > > Fertility isn't a concern. Testicular volume might be an

> interest

> > > but if the size of the " boys " is all I get out of it, I'm have

> my

> > > doubts about the real benefit. Will it improve ejaculate

volume

> and

> > > other sexual performance effects?

> > >

> > > Thanks Phil and Brad...

> >

> > I am not sure about ejaculate volume. If I recall correctly, it

is

> > Dr. 's claim that the combo treatment (hcg + test) makes you

> feel

> > better (better libido) than test alone. I have no experience

with

> that.

> >

> > Brad

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