Re: Recent tests results confusing to me

[Guest guest]

Hi Tony,

Let me get this straight: You're not on TRT or E2 management,

right? So

(1) You raised T from 129 ng/dl to 747ng/dl (241 - 827) using

only diet, exercise & clean living? and

(2) Your E2 is 19 pg/mL (0 - <54) without any special E2

management? and

(3) You beat a gastrointestinal Candida overgrowth in a couple of

weeks, primarily with water?

The implications are I have to eat right, get off my ass and give

up Hershey bars. I hate you:-)

On libido, I can only guess: (a) It takes longer than 30 days dry

for the brain to get back on track with libido, ( as you mention

frre T might not have caught up with things, and/or © there's a

remote chance your E2 19 is a little too low which could affect

some people (but not necessarily you).

I think your progress is so remarkable that you should not

change a thing. I suspect libido will improve within 30 days.

Your body is already doing a great job of healing itself, returning

hormones to their natural balances. Hold off on anything like

hCG or Seligiline: it might accidentally hinder your ongoing

improvement.

Congrats on the 30 days. That's another major accomplishment.

Don't let it go to your head.

Do you know of any published info. on a Candida-low

testosterone connection?

Bruce

) , apcoz33@h... wrote:

> Hi Group,

> I see my Endocrinologist tomorrow. Please guide me in the

right

> direction.

>

> I just got my tests from Friday the 24th faxed to me. I am

> perplexed.

> I need help figuring this out.

>

> Test results:

> June 7th: (on a big drinking binge)

> Testosterone,serum 230 ng/dl (normal 241-827) Placed on

Androgel.

> July 7th Quit Andro-gel after seeing an Endocrinologist.

>

> Test results:

> August 25: (on a bigger drinking binge, also suffering from

alcohol

> induced internal candida)

> LH 2.0 (normal 1.5 - 9.3)

> FSH 5.9 (Normal 0.7 - 18.1)

> Thyroxine (T4) Free, Direct, S 1.10 ng/dl (Normal 0.61 - 1.76)

> Testosterone, Serum 129 ng/dl (Normal 241 - 827) " I am very

low

> here "

> THS 1.767 uIU/ml (Normal 0.35 - 5.50)

> Cortisol 13.1 ug/dl (Normal 3.1 - 22.4)

>

> Group,

> I quit drinking on August 28th ish, ( I am due for my 30 day AA

> chip!) I also started to address the candida overgrowth. For the

> past month I have went on occasional fasts no food/water and

just

> water fasts to clean up toxins and continue killing off the

candida.

> Almost completely eliminated sugars (which feeds candida)

>

> Test results:

> September 24th:

> LH 3.0 ( Normal 1.5 -9.3 )

> FSH 5.5 ( Normal 1.4 - 18.1 )

> Testosterone serum 747ng/dl ( Normal 241 -827 )

> Estradiol 19 ( Normal 0 - <54 )

> PSA 1.1 ( Normal 0.0 - 4.0 )

> Hcg <5 ( Normal Male <10 )

> Prolactin 5.5 ( Normal Male 2.1 - 17.7 )

>

> Tests look great. Im not complaint at all! I just dont get it In

> one month my T rose 618??. I see my libido coming back

slowly but

> sometimes, usually, I have no interest, like last night, I even

took

> 1/2 Cialis and could not get it up for long and still had no libido,

> not enough to please my wife, she just went to sleep (so did I).

> Then I had a NE all night it seemed like.

>

> I basically have such a low libido, I know I said it was coming

> back, and it is slowly. Perhaps I need more T then a level of

747?

> It was a morning test too.

> Would I benefit from Hcg? or seligiline? Should I give it more

time?

> Energy is high, creativity is coming back, irritablilty is much

less

> but I am not anything like I used to be libido wise, I used to

want

> sex every day or 2x a day.

>

> Perhaps the T of 747 is bound? not free?? How to determine?

Whats

> next? maybe just time? Maybe father time is catching up with

me?

> What do I tell the Endo tomorrow?

>

> Thanks,

> Tony 36

[Guest guest]

Tony -

It seems to me from all I've read that libido lags behind everything

else. Especially in your case, your T production has recovered so

quickly. It probably depends also on how long you've had symptoms as

well. I agree with Bruce, hold off on any treatment and see if your

body " catches up " .

It's good you're not drinking as well. I'm a little concerned for

myself with the Red Sox making the playoffs, they tend to drive me

to drink....

Keep it up, and good luck

Dave K.

> > Hi Group,

> > I see my Endocrinologist tomorrow. Please guide me in the

> right

> > direction.

> >

> > I just got my tests from Friday the 24th faxed to me. I am

> > perplexed.

> > I need help figuring this out.

> >

> > Test results:

> > June 7th: (on a big drinking binge)

> > Testosterone,serum 230 ng/dl (normal 241-827) Placed on

> Androgel.

> > July 7th Quit Andro-gel after seeing an Endocrinologist.

> >

> > Test results:

> > August 25: (on a bigger drinking binge, also suffering from

> alcohol

> > induced internal candida)

> > LH 2.0 (normal 1.5 - 9.3)

> > FSH 5.9 (Normal 0.7 - 18.1)

> > Thyroxine (T4) Free, Direct, S 1.10 ng/dl (Normal 0.61 - 1.76)

> > Testosterone, Serum 129 ng/dl (Normal 241 - 827) " I am very

> low

> > here "

> > THS 1.767 uIU/ml (Normal 0.35 - 5.50)

> > Cortisol 13.1 ug/dl (Normal 3.1 - 22.4)

> >

> > Group,

> > I quit drinking on August 28th ish, ( I am due for my 30 day AA

> > chip!) I also started to address the candida overgrowth. For the

> > past month I have went on occasional fasts no food/water and

> just

> > water fasts to clean up toxins and continue killing off the

> candida.

> > Almost completely eliminated sugars (which feeds candida)

> >

> > Test results:

> > September 24th:

> > LH 3.0 ( Normal 1.5 -9.3 )

> > FSH 5.5 ( Normal 1.4 - 18.1 )

> > Testosterone serum 747ng/dl ( Normal 241 -827 )

> > Estradiol 19 ( Normal 0 - <54 )

> > PSA 1.1 ( Normal 0.0 - 4.0 )

> > Hcg <5 ( Normal Male <10 )

> > Prolactin 5.5 ( Normal Male 2.1 - 17.7 )

> >

> > Tests look great. Im not complaint at all! I just dont get it

In

> > one month my T rose 618??. I see my libido coming back

> slowly but

> > sometimes, usually, I have no interest, like last night, I even

> took

> > 1/2 Cialis and could not get it up for long and still had no

libido,

> > not enough to please my wife, she just went to sleep (so did I).

> > Then I had a NE all night it seemed like.

> >

> > I basically have such a low libido, I know I said it was coming

> > back, and it is slowly. Perhaps I need more T then a level of

> 747?

> > It was a morning test too.

> > Would I benefit from Hcg? or seligiline? Should I give it more

> time?

> > Energy is high, creativity is coming back, irritablilty is much

> less

> > but I am not anything like I used to be libido wise, I used to

> want

> > sex every day or 2x a day.

> >

> > Perhaps the T of 747 is bound? not free?? How to determine?

> Whats

> > next? maybe just time? Maybe father time is catching up with

> me?

> > What do I tell the Endo tomorrow?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Tony 36

[Guest guest]

Hi Bruce & Group,

Thats right, the tests results I gave are what the lab reported. No

E-2 inhibitors or TRT.

Concerning your question about Candida and testosterone, I called

one of the doctors my area o from the link on the left (files) under

innovative doctors and he told me that the toxic byproducts of

candida can cause a drop in T. I still have candida overgrowth it

takes 3 - 6 months of a strict diet to get rid of it , but I made

great improvments. Non-chlorinated water (just fill your water jugs

up and keep the lids off, the chloine will evaproate within 24

hours) acidipilous to rebuild the " good bacteria " and psyllim husk

at night to keep the toxins flushed out of the colon.

If anyone will hear me on this, the single best thing a person with

reasonable health can do to for an overall health improvment is to

FAST. Water only fasts is what I prefer, although I just resumed

them this month because you cant do them when you are on a 20 month

drinking about a case a beer a day binge.

I no longer have high blood pressure and you see how my tests are. I

fast once or 2x a week. The single most important supplement I can

recommend from 5 years of expeirence is MSM, I take 5-10,000 mgs a

day. It is an organic sulfer (not sulfate) found in every living

organism, vital for cell regeneration and removing toxins, I get it

at blue mountain 1-800-421-5201 www.puremsm.com I am 36 with no

wrinkles. buying beer at wallmart a few months ago, my ID was

initially rejected cause the clerk said there is no way Im 36. LOL

I use the cream on my face, dry skin, get a mosquito bite and rub

some MSM cream on and in 5 minutes or less youll it will never itch

you again. Its given to snake bite victims when the exact species is

unknown becuse it will flush toxins out like a hose. Its not

stronger than the alcohol though... I also drink atleast a gallon of

water a day, and pea alot too.

I appreciate all the help you people have freely given to me. I will

let you know what the endo says tomorrow and keep up on this board.

Tony

> > Hi Group,

> > I see my Endocrinologist tomorrow. Please guide me in the

> right

> > direction.

> >

> > I just got my tests from Friday the 24th faxed to me. I am

> > perplexed.

> > I need help figuring this out.

> >

> > Test results:

> > June 7th: (on a big drinking binge)

> > Testosterone,serum 230 ng/dl (normal 241-827) Placed on

> Androgel.

> > July 7th Quit Andro-gel after seeing an Endocrinologist.

> >

> > Test results:

> > August 25: (on a bigger drinking binge, also suffering from

> alcohol

> > induced internal candida)

> > LH 2.0 (normal 1.5 - 9.3)

> > FSH 5.9 (Normal 0.7 - 18.1)

> > Thyroxine (T4) Free, Direct, S 1.10 ng/dl (Normal 0.61 - 1.76)

> > Testosterone, Serum 129 ng/dl (Normal 241 - 827) " I am very

> low

> > here "

> > THS 1.767 uIU/ml (Normal 0.35 - 5.50)

> > Cortisol 13.1 ug/dl (Normal 3.1 - 22.4)

> >

> > Group,

> > I quit drinking on August 28th ish, ( I am due for my 30 day AA

> > chip!) I also started to address the candida overgrowth. For the

> > past month I have went on occasional fasts no food/water and

> just

> > water fasts to clean up toxins and continue killing off the

> candida.

> > Almost completely eliminated sugars (which feeds candida)

> >

> > Test results:

> > September 24th:

> > LH 3.0 ( Normal 1.5 -9.3 )

> > FSH 5.5 ( Normal 1.4 - 18.1 )

> > Testosterone serum 747ng/dl ( Normal 241 -827 )

> > Estradiol 19 ( Normal 0 - <54 )

> > PSA 1.1 ( Normal 0.0 - 4.0 )

> > Hcg <5 ( Normal Male <10 )

> > Prolactin 5.5 ( Normal Male 2.1 - 17.7 )

> >

> > Tests look great. Im not complaint at all! I just dont get it

In

> > one month my T rose 618??. I see my libido coming back

> slowly but

> > sometimes, usually, I have no interest, like last night, I even

> took

> > 1/2 Cialis and could not get it up for long and still had no

libido,

> > not enough to please my wife, she just went to sleep (so did I).

> > Then I had a NE all night it seemed like.

> >

> > I basically have such a low libido, I know I said it was coming

> > back, and it is slowly. Perhaps I need more T then a level of

> 747?

> > It was a morning test too.

> > Would I benefit from Hcg? or seligiline? Should I give it more

> time?

> > Energy is high, creativity is coming back, irritablilty is much

> less

> > but I am not anything like I used to be libido wise, I used to

> want

> > sex every day or 2x a day.

> >

> > Perhaps the T of 747 is bound? not free?? How to determine?

> Whats

> > next? maybe just time? Maybe father time is catching up with

> me?

> > What do I tell the Endo tomorrow?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Tony 36