Re: Anyone seen results with Hcg...?

[Guest guest]

Bobby -

I just started using hcg on Sunday. I am on Arimidex

and I will be injecting 500 IU every 4 days. I think

maybe I am seeing a slight improvement in libido and

energy level but it could just be placebo effect.

Let's stay in touch and compare notes.

Jim

--- bobbycfromep <clark.hypog@...> wrote:

>

> About three weeks ago Dr. started me on twice a

> week injections

> of Hcg (250 IU). The injections are two days before

> and the day

> before my 180 mg t-cyp injection. My question is,

> what kind of

> changes should I be feeling? To this point my

> libido has not

> improved and erections are still somewhat difficult

> (without a lot of

> extra " attention " ). I was curious to hear from the

> guys that been

> using it WITH TRT for a period of time.

>

> TIA

>

> Bobby

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Did you have to convice your doctor to prescribe HCG? My endo is worthless so

I will be heading back to my PC doc. I want to convince him to prescribe HCG

but not sure how to go about it. Any suggestions? Was diagnosed secondary so

I should be a good candidate.

Dave

" JimS. " <jms_in_fairfax@...> wrote:

Bobby -

I just started using hcg on Sunday. I am on Arimidex

and I will be injecting 500 IU every 4 days. I think

maybe I am seeing a slight improvement in libido and

energy level but it could just be placebo effect.

Let's stay in touch and compare notes.

Jim

--- bobbycfromep <clark.hypog@...> wrote:

>

> About three weeks ago Dr. started me on twice a

> week injections

> of Hcg (250 IU). The injections are two days before

> and the day

> before my 180 mg t-cyp injection. My question is,

> what kind of

> changes should I be feeling? To this point my

> libido has not

> improved and erections are still somewhat difficult

> (without a lot of

> extra " attention " ). I was curious to hear from the

> guys that been

> using it WITH TRT for a period of time.

>

> TIA

>

> Bobby

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Dave -

I am being treated by Dr. Crisler. HCG is part of

his new standard TRT protocol. I am also secondary. If

you want to contact Dr. to inquire about

treatment you can reach him through his website

www.allthingsmale.com.

Jim

--- Brown <kidsxx5@...> wrote:

> Did you have to convice your doctor to prescribe

> HCG? My endo is worthless so I will be heading

> back to my PC doc. I want to convince him to

> prescribe HCG but not sure how to go about it. Any

> suggestions? Was diagnosed secondary so I should be

> a good candidate.

>

> Dave

>

> " JimS. " <jms_in_fairfax@...> wrote:

> Bobby -

>

> I just started using hcg on Sunday. I am on Arimidex

> and I will be injecting 500 IU every 4 days. I think

> maybe I am seeing a slight improvement in libido and

> energy level but it could just be placebo effect.

> Let's stay in touch and compare notes.

>

> Jim

>

> --- bobbycfromep <clark.hypog@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > About three weeks ago Dr. started me on twice

> a

> > week injections

> > of Hcg (250 IU). The injections are two days

> before

> > and the day

> > before my 180 mg t-cyp injection. My question is,

> > what kind of

> > changes should I be feeling? To this point my

> > libido has not

> > improved and erections are still somewhat

> difficult

> > (without a lot of

> > extra " attention " ). I was curious to hear from

> the

> > guys that been

> > using it WITH TRT for a period of time.

> >

> > TIA

> >

> > Bobby

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Jim,

Can you give me some information on how this process works? Since

you don't actually see the doctor what does he require?

Dave

> >

> > >

> > > About three weeks ago Dr. started me on twice

> > a

> > > week injections

> > > of Hcg (250 IU). The injections are two days

> > before

> > > and the day

> > > before my 180 mg t-cyp injection. My question is,

> > > what kind of

> > > changes should I be feeling? To this point my

> > > libido has not

> > > improved and erections are still somewhat

> > difficult

> > > (without a lot of

> > > extra " attention " ). I was curious to hear from

> > the

> > > guys that been

> > > using it WITH TRT for a period of time.

> > >

> > > TIA

> > >

> > > Bobby

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Dave -

As I remember, I contacted Dr. through his

website and we exchanged a couple of e-mails regarding

what I was looking for and what Dr. would

provide. I think he also sent me a medical

questionnaire which I had to complete. He also

required that I have a physical by my PCP and the

results forwarded to him.

I had been on Androgel (prescribed by my urologist)

when I first contacted Dr. and I had some recent

lab test results to send to him. He immediately

started me on Arimidex to lower my E2 and ordered a

new set of labs after I had been on Arimidex for about

a month. Since then we have adjusted the Arimidex

dosage and had one more set of labs.

Dr. is very thorough. He makes sure that your

overall health is being monitored by your local

physician and he prescribes TRT based on your lab

results and your description of how you feel.

I would prefer to have a local physician just so I

could sit down and talk with him instead of

communicating by e-mail. But Dr. has been very

thorough and responsive and I would definitely

recommend him to anyone who has had a problem of

getting competent treatment from a local physician.

Jim

--- Dave <kidsxx5@...> wrote:

>

> Jim,

>

> Can you give me some information on how this process

> works? Since

> you don't actually see the doctor what does he

> require?

>

> Dave

>

>

> > >

> > > >

> > > > About three weeks ago Dr. started me on

> twice

> > > a

> > > > week injections

> > > > of Hcg (250 IU). The injections are two days

> > > before

> > > > and the day

> > > > before my 180 mg t-cyp injection. My question

> is,

> > > > what kind of

> > > > changes should I be feeling? To this point my

> > > > libido has not

> > > > improved and erections are still somewhat

> > > difficult

> > > > (without a lot of

> > > > extra " attention " ). I was curious to hear

> from

> > > the

> > > > guys that been

> > > > using it WITH TRT for a period of time.

> > > >

> > > > TIA

> > > >

> > > > Bobby

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

Jim,

Thanks for the information. I am going to see what I come up with locally but

if all fails I may give Dr. a try. Currently on Testim but have tried

them all over the last 5 years (off and on as I could afford it). My last tests

showed low LH/FSH along with low T. MRI showed no issue with my pituitary so

it's kind of a mystery. Tried to get the endo to run a E2 test but he refused

saying I had no obvious feminization. I still think I need to get this checked

Dave

" JimS. " <jms_in_fairfax@...> wrote:

Dave -

As I remember, I contacted Dr. through his

website and we exchanged a couple of e-mails regarding

what I was looking for and what Dr. would

provide. I think he also sent me a medical

questionnaire which I had to complete. He also

required that I have a physical by my PCP and the

results forwarded to him.

I had been on Androgel (prescribed by my urologist)

when I first contacted Dr. and I had some recent

lab test results to send to him. He immediately

started me on Arimidex to lower my E2 and ordered a

new set of labs after I had been on Arimidex for about

a month. Since then we have adjusted the Arimidex

dosage and had one more set of labs.

Dr. is very thorough. He makes sure that your

overall health is being monitored by your local

physician and he prescribes TRT based on your lab

results and your description of how you feel.

I would prefer to have a local physician just so I

could sit down and talk with him instead of

communicating by e-mail. But Dr. has been very

thorough and responsive and I would definitely

recommend him to anyone who has had a problem of

getting competent treatment from a local physician.

Jim

--- Dave wrote:

>

> Jim,

>

> Can you give me some information on how this process

> works? Since

> you don't actually see the doctor what does he

> require?

>

> Dave

>

>

> > >

> > > >

> > > > About three weeks ago Dr. started me on

> twice

> > > a

> > > > week injections

> > > > of Hcg (250 IU). The injections are two days

> > > before

> > > > and the day

> > > > before my 180 mg t-cyp injection. My question

> is,

> > > > what kind of

> > > > changes should I be feeling? To this point my

> > > > libido has not

> > > > improved and erections are still somewhat

> > > difficult

> > > > (without a lot of

> > > > extra " attention " ). I was curious to hear

> from

> > > the

> > > > guys that been

> > > > using it WITH TRT for a period of time.

> > > >

> > > > TIA

> > > >

> > > > Bobby

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Bobby it may not help. I was in bad shape with ED and could not reach an

orgasm this was caused by high E2 Estradiol after getting it down my ED was 80%

better and I now reach an orgasm to fast sometimes. To get the other 20% up to

par my Dr. put me on Cialis 20 mgs. every 72 hrs. I now with the help of Cialis

can have sex when ever the need comes. Also I now have my NE back all nitght

long and this is good for you penis the more you get at night the healthier it

is for your penis. Also it is keeping my BP down so no more BP meds.

Phil

bobbycfromep <clark.hypog@...> wrote:

About three weeks ago Dr. started me on twice a week injections

of Hcg (250 IU). The injections are two days before and the day

before my 180 mg t-cyp injection. My question is, what kind of

changes should I be feeling? To this point my libido has not

improved and erections are still somewhat difficult (without a lot of

extra " attention " ). I was curious to hear from the guys that been

using it WITH TRT for a period of time.

TIA

Bobby

[Guest guest]

I have been working wiith my family Dr. for over 10 years the first time I

asked him to treat me he said he would look into it and the next time I went to

see him he was an expert. When I come accross new info I print it and give it

to him. Print this and give it to your Dr. high light the part on seconday and

using hcg.

Phil

http://www.aace.com/clin/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

Brown <kidsxx5@...> wrote:

Did you have to convice your doctor to prescribe HCG? My endo is worthless so

I will be heading back to my PC doc. I want to convince him to prescribe HCG

but not sure how to go about it. Any suggestions? Was diagnosed secondary so

I should be a good candidate.

Dave

" JimS. " <jms_in_fairfax@...> wrote:

Bobby -

I just started using hcg on Sunday. I am on Arimidex

and I will be injecting 500 IU every 4 days. I think

maybe I am seeing a slight improvement in libido and

energy level but it could just be placebo effect.

Let's stay in touch and compare notes.

Jim

--- bobbycfromep <clark.hypog@...> wrote:

>

> About three weeks ago Dr. started me on twice a

> week injections

> of Hcg (250 IU). The injections are two days before

> and the day

> before my 180 mg t-cyp injection. My question is,

> what kind of

> changes should I be feeling? To this point my

> libido has not

> improved and erections are still somewhat difficult

> (without a lot of

> extra " attention " ). I was curious to hear from the

> guys that been

> using it WITH TRT for a period of time.

>

> TIA

>

> Bobby

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Dave,

It is possible to be secondary with no abnormality showing up on the

MRI. It can be caused by damage by a viral infection, autoimmune

process, and other things (I think the AACE guidelines talk about some

of this as well as other books, articles, etc). In fact, I think that

most of us who are secondary have had normal MRIs.

Mark