Re: Introduction and issue with labido + Initial Lab results

[Guest guest]

Thank you Bruce, that makes me feel much better!

I went to my general practitioner and we agreed to send me to a

specialist in the NoVa area. She also gave me a copy of my test

results from May of this year. These results are from before my

initial use of the Androderm patch (and subsequestly where I am now

after 6 months of use).:

Name Result Range

Ferritin - 95 (20- 345)

LH Serum - 2.7 (1.5- 9.3)

FSH Serum - 2.4 (1.4- 18.1)

Testosterone 384 (241- 827)

Prolactum - 7.8 (3.0- 19.0)

TSH - .95 (.4- 5.5)

PSA total - .6 (0 - 4.0)

Protein 7.2

Albumin 4.6

Globulin 2.6

A/G ratio 1.8

Bilrubin total .8

Bilrubin Direct .0

AST 25

ALT 17

Alkaline Phosphatase 87

1 month later I had a testosterone score of 835 and I felt wonderful.

It is a few months later and I feel exactly where I was before

starting treatment. Hopefully the specialist will give me insight

next Tuesday.

Can anyone give me an idea of what my test results conclude? From my

research it shows a cut and dry case of Hypogonadism.

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> > Hello gents. I am a 27 year old male who stared on the androderm

> > patch about 7 months ago. a few months earlier I noticed a sharp

> > decrease in sex drive and inability to gain a full erection. Upon

> > checking with my doctor, and checking my T level, it was

determined

> > that my testosterone was in the 300 range. After a month of

applying

> > the patch, I was up in the 850 range and back to a stable sex

drive.

> >

> > After about 6 months of use, i discovered a decreased sex drive.

I

> > simply have very little interest and find it difficult to get a

full

> > erection. I am curious what it might be, and what i can do to get

my

> > sex drive back. I have an appointment with a urologist in about 3

> > weeks and hopefully we can determine something medical is the

cause.

> >

> > Now I have never been what i consider " normal " sexually. It has

> > always taken more for me to get excited then what I would think

the

> > normal male needs. I have historically gone through phases of

needing

> > viagra and honostly feel " normal " while on the drug. I hate the

side

> > effects (and cost) but what is a guy to do? All and all I wouldnt

> > think this is normal for a healthy fit 27 year old male.

> >

> > Have any of you experienced the same thing? Has anyone thought it

may

> > be more mental than physical? Have you taken antidepresents to

help?

> > Lately i have been " thinking " too much about my issues which

seems to

> > sabotage the erection even worse. I'm wondering if a low dose of

> > something would keep my mind focused.

> >

> > Again? Am I the only one experiencing these things?

[Guest guest]

Looks like you might be secondary to me. My endo recommends T shots

with HCG added in 6 months to a year after starting T shots for my

secondary. Others try different things.

Mark

[Guest guest]

Hi Will I am sorry my link did not go in the post.

http://www.aace.com/clin/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

Phil

Will <will.albers@...> wrote:

Thanks Phil... You say " read this " ... what were you implying to read?

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello gents. I am a 27 year old male who stared on the

androderm

> > > patch about 7 months ago. a few months earlier I noticed a

sharp

> > > decrease in sex drive and inability to gain a full erection.

Upon

> > > checking with my doctor, and checking my T level, it was

> determined

> > > that my testosterone was in the 300 range. After a month of

> applying

> > > the patch, I was up in the 850 range and back to a stable sex

> drive.

> > >

> > > After about 6 months of use, i discovered a decreased sex

drive.

> I

> > > simply have very little interest and find it difficult to get a

> full

> > > erection. I am curious what it might be, and what i can do to

get

> my

> > > sex drive back. I have an appointment with a urologist in about

3

> > > weeks and hopefully we can determine something medical is the

> cause.

> > >

> > > Now I have never been what i consider " normal " sexually. It has

> > > always taken more for me to get excited then what I would think

> the

> > > normal male needs. I have historically gone through phases of

> needing

> > > viagra and honostly feel " normal " while on the drug. I hate the

> side

> > > effects (and cost) but what is a guy to do? All and all I

wouldnt

> > > think this is normal for a healthy fit 27 year old male.

> > >

> > > Have any of you experienced the same thing? Has anyone thought

it

> may

> > > be more mental than physical? Have you taken antidepresents to

> help?

> > > Lately i have been " thinking " too much about my issues which

> seems to

> > > sabotage the erection even worse. I'm wondering if a low dose

of

> > > something would keep my mind focused.

> > >

> > > Again? Am I the only one experiencing these things?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Will,

IMO your GP is a good doc. She knows a doc has to consider the patients

symptoms, and that T 384 is not right for a 27 yo man. Supplemental T made

your symptoms go away. A cut and dry case of Hypogonadism? I think so.

Many docs would disagree, taking one look at your first T level being over 241

& pronouncing you healthy.

LH & FSH signal the testicles to make T. Your very low-normal levels suggest

pituitary or hypothalmic dysfunction. A dynamic stimulation test using hCG or

Clomid would tell if your testicles could be " jump-started " to make natural

testosterone again. If so stimulation therapy might be preferable to TRT,

especially if fertility is a concern.

I'm hoping your specialist will be good. Let us know what he has to say.

Best,

Bruce

>

> Thank you Bruce, that makes me feel much better!

>

> I went to my general practitioner and we agreed to send me to a

> specialist in the NoVa area. She also gave me a copy of my test

> results from May of this year. These results are from before my

> initial use of the Androderm patch (and subsequestly where I am now

> after 6 months of use).:

>

> Name Result Range

> Ferritin - 95 (20- 345)

> LH Serum - 2.7 (1.5- 9.3)

> FSH Serum - 2.4 (1.4- 18.1)

> Testosterone 384 (241- 827)

> Prolactum - 7.8 (3.0- 19.0)

> TSH - .95 (.4- 5.5)

> PSA total - .6 (0 - 4.0)

>

> Protein 7.2

> Albumin 4.6

> Globulin 2.6

> A/G ratio 1.8

> Bilrubin total .8

> Bilrubin Direct .0

> AST 25

> ALT 17

> Alkaline Phosphatase 87

>

>

> 1 month later I had a testosterone score of 835 and I felt wonderful.

> It is a few months later and I feel exactly where I was before

> starting treatment. Hopefully the specialist will give me insight

> next Tuesday.

>

> Can anyone give me an idea of what my test results conclude? From my

> research it shows a cut and dry case of Hypogonadism.

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