Re: question about mood for those with low free T

August 2, 2004

Yeah, could be the zinc. I have no idea how long it takes to kick in,

so I shouldn't comment on how fast you saw results. Enjoy.

You posted your estridiol test came back 3.9 pg/ml, ref. range 1.0-

3.0. (Sabre Labs Inc.) IMO, you ARE significantly over range, enough

to cause high E2 symptoms. My lab doesn't use numbers like that, but

it looks like you were 45% over range (if my math's right).

What were your T & free T numbers?

Bruce

> Hi all,

>

> As some of you know already, I suffer from CFS and ED. Every test

> I've had, and believe me I've had a lot, come back normal with the

> exception of two and that is low free T and estridiol. My total T

is

> high yet my free T is on the lower side of normal with a .2 percent

> ratio on my most recent test. My estrodiol is a little higher than

> normal but not dramaticly.

>

> Let me preface my question by saying that I have bouts of severe

> depression for no explained reason, feel tired all the time and

have

> aching muscles. I also experience periods of inner rage and anger

> that tear me up inside. I've described that particular feeling as

> what a woman with bad PMS might be like, bitching, yelling and

> otherwise out of control emotionaly. I dont show this on the

outside

> but I feel it on my inside.

>

> My Zinc levels are in the mid range but I decided to add 50mg of

> zinc to my diet a week ago. I dont know if what I'm feeling is a

> cyclical mood swing or what. But, I can say that my dick is now

more

> sensitive to touch, I'm beginning to get erections again (although

> not totally full) and I'm feeling some extra drive and energy as

> well as lees depression. I'm not saying I've popped out of my ailes

> but I swear something is changing within me physically. One more

> thing, I've always had loose bowels and now they are firming up,

too.

>

> MY QUESTION: I know Zinc is believed to be an estridiol blocker. Is

> it possible, what I'm feeling is because the extra zinc is blocking

> my estridiol and raising my free T? I seriously doubt this is some

> placebo effect I'm feeling. Can the reults of blocking estridiol be

> felt within a matter of days? Also, for those in the know, what

> should be my next step if what I'm feeling is a result of blocking

> estridiol? Move up to Arimidal? I'm sure someone in this astutely

> intelligent group will have some experience with this.

>

> Feelin good coz I got a boner again!

August 2, 2004

Hi,

Increasing your T levels usually does not improve you erections unless

they are absent because of a lack of interest before hand. If you are

very young or also very lucky the erections improve with TRT or

increased T levels.

There is a fantastic benefit initially when your T levels are going

up. Erections arrive at even the least thought. You realize it hasn't

been like this before or maybe since my teens. Trouble is, when the

level of T becomes stabilizes at the new higher levels you may have

the interest but the erections now are just as tough to generate and

last just as long as before starting TRT. I was really ticked off as I

thought I had cured my ED and expected the second set of hormone

pellets to give it all back to me like the first set. Never happened.

Had to continue to search for an ED cure till I found out about Dr.

Goldstein, Boston Univ who developed trimix and have been good now for

more than 10 years.

ernestnolan

> Hi all,

>

> As some of you know already, I suffer from CFS and ED. Every test

> I've had, and believe me I've had a lot, come back normal with the

> exception of two and that is low free T and estridiol. My total T is

> high yet my free T is on the lower side of normal with a .2 percent

> ratio on my most recent test. My estrodiol is a little higher than

> normal but not dramaticly.

>

> Let me preface my question by saying that I have bouts of severe

> depression for no explained reason, feel tired all the time and have

> aching muscles. I also experience periods of inner rage and anger

> that tear me up inside. I've described that particular feeling as

> what a woman with bad PMS might be like, bitching, yelling and

> otherwise out of control emotionaly. I dont show this on the outside

> but I feel it on my inside.

>

> My Zinc levels are in the mid range but I decided to add 50mg of

> zinc to my diet a week ago. I dont know if what I'm feeling is a

> cyclical mood swing or what. But, I can say that my dick is now more

> sensitive to touch, I'm beginning to get erections again (although

> not totally full) and I'm feeling some extra drive and energy as

> well as lees depression. I'm not saying I've popped out of my ailes

> but I swear something is changing within me physically. One more

> thing, I've always had loose bowels and now they are firming up, too.

>

> MY QUESTION: I know Zinc is believed to be an estridiol blocker. Is

> it possible, what I'm feeling is because the extra zinc is blocking

> my estridiol and raising my free T? I seriously doubt this is some

> placebo effect I'm feeling. Can the reults of blocking estridiol be

> felt within a matter of days? Also, for those in the know, what

> should be my next step if what I'm feeling is a result of blocking

> estridiol? Move up to Arimidal? I'm sure someone in this astutely

> intelligent group will have some experience with this.

>

> Feelin good coz I got a boner again!

August 2, 2004

Here is a link for Zinc Deficiency.

http://www.ctds.info/zinc1.html#zinc_deficiency

Includes Hypogonadism

The link is from a connective tissue disorder web site.

http://www.ctds.info/

No question Zinc is great, just be sure to get some copper with it.

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What were your DHEA-S, igf-1 and Thyroid panel levels at?