Re: What is wrong with me?

September 10, 2001

I would see an alternative practitioner, and holistic dentist. It could be your teeth. Be SURE to find a dentist who follows the correct protocol. I have websites for the correct protocol, and holistic dentists if you are interested. I also searched for two years to find an answer and it was my mercury amalgams.

Jan

I wouldn't normally post personal stuff like this but I am at a complete loss regarding my health problems and desparate for further advice.

It started one year ago after becoming seriously ill with a stomach bug following ingestion of some very out-of-date herbal capsules. I know that the over-aged herbs triggered the problem, but I don't know what the problem is (i.e I have yet to be given a definitive diagnosis).

The most immediate effects experienced were: increased hypersensitivities/allergies, severe nausea, dull-

headedness/confusion, fatigue, congestion - mainly in the right nostil with a white stringy discharge/mucus digestive problems, and, most prominently: a pressure underneath the right lung or diaphragm making breathing more difficult and causing me to lean slightly. Also of great concern was the fact that my ribcage no longer looked equalateral: the left side protrudes as normal; the right hand side does not, and seems lower.

I saw seen numerous doctors within the following 10 months and was proscribed all sorts of useless medications including various antibiotics and stereoidal nasal sprays. The main problem, I kept insisting, was the fact I seemed to have reduced lung capacity. They all said my ribcage looked normal and that it was natural for the lower ribs to change position. I had various blood tests, an X-ray and an ultrasound scan - nothing. After ten months I was told I had IBS and that there was nothing they could do. I then proceeded to spend lots of money on alternative treatments. Finally, I saw a Colonic Hydrotherapist who claimed that i did not have IBS, I merely had a congested colon. After just one treatment the intense nausea and and diahorea vanished and did not return. By the third treatment it was clear that my colon was fairly clean so I had no follow-ups. However, I still had all the other symptoms.

I was recommeded a book entitled "The amazing Liver Cleanse" by s Moritz which gives similar, though less detailed, information on gallstones and cleansing etc. In the past 3 months I have radically changed my diet (I was vegetarian before that anyway), undergone 4 cleanses and released about 150 stones, mainly small white ones, also larger green ones and a number of red "spikes". I have also undertaken the parasite cleansing program. As well as this, I have taken a course of Milk Thistle, Artichoke, dandelion and bupleurum as well as a number of other supplements in fairly large amounts.

I have had no improvement in the symptoms whatsoever, and in fact feel weaker than usual. A year ago i could easily cycle several miles without being out of breath. Now I can't climb a hill. I am in my mid 20's.

My current symtoms are: Chronic halitosis which does not respond to local antibacterials; dizziness, lightheadedness, confusion, memory-

loss, impaired vision, pale, clay-coloured stools, digestive problems, chronic fatigue and of course, the constant pressure underneath my diaphragm which is the most disturbing symptom. I also have terrible muscle cramp and allergies. I had these before I got ill anyway, but not to the degree I am experiencing at the moment. All my joints are extremely stiff.

I have no idea of what to do next. I have not been given a correct diagnosis and yet I've been written off by the medical profession. I've lost count of how many appointments I've had concerning my problems. I don't know what wrong with me and I don't know what to do about it. Logic leads me to believe I have an enlarged liver for some reason and that most of my symptoms are due to this. But an enlarged liver does not automatically mean obstructions, does it? How do I know I have got some form of hepatitus or some kind of infection? I am totally in the dark.

September 10, 2001

You wouldn't perchance still have those out of date capsules for

examination?

Leo

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> I wouldn't normally post personal stuff like this but I am at a

> complete loss regarding my health problems and desparate for further

> advice.

>

> It started one year ago after becoming seriously ill with a stomach

> bug following ingestion of some very out-of-date herbal capsules. I

> know that the over-aged herbs triggered the problem, but I don't

know

> what the problem is (i.e I have yet to be given a definitive

> diagnosis).

>

> The most immediate effects experienced were: increased

> hypersensitivities/allergies, severe nausea, dull-

> headedness/confusion, fatigue, congestion - mainly in the right

> nostil with a white stringy discharge/mucus digestive problems, and,

> most prominently: a pressure underneath the right lung or diaphragm

> making breathing more difficult and causing me to lean slightly.

Also

> of great concern was the fact that my ribcage no longer looked

> equalateral: the left side protrudes as normal; the right hand side

> does not, and seems lower.

>

> I saw seen numerous doctors within the following 10 months and was

> proscribed all sorts of useless medications including various

> antibiotics and stereoidal nasal sprays. The main problem, I kept

> insisting, was the fact I seemed to have reduced lung capacity. They

> all said my ribcage looked normal and that it was natural for the

> lower ribs to change position. I had various blood tests, an X-ray

> and an ultrasound scan - nothing. After ten months I was told I had

> IBS and that there was nothing they could do. I then proceeded to

> spend lots of money on alternative treatments. Finally, I saw a

> Colonic Hydrotherapist who claimed that i did not have IBS, I merely

> had a congested colon. After just one treatment the intense nausea

> and and diahorea vanished and did not return. By the third treatment

> it was clear that my colon was fairly clean so I had no follow-ups.

> However, I still had all the other symptoms.

>

> I was recommeded a book entitled " The amazing Liver Cleanse " by

> s Moritz which gives similar, though less detailed,

information

> on gallstones and cleansing etc. In the past 3 months I have

> radically changed my diet (I was vegetarian before that anyway),

> undergone 4 cleanses and released about 150 stones, mainly small

> white ones, also larger green ones and a number of red " spikes " . I

> have also undertaken the parasite cleansing program. As well as

this,

> I have taken a course of Milk Thistle, Artichoke, dandelion and

> bupleurum as well as a number of other supplements in fairly large

> amounts.

>

> I have had no improvement in the symptoms whatsoever, and in fact

> feel weaker than usual. A year ago i could easily cycle several

miles

> without being out of breath. Now I can't climb a hill. I am in my

mid

> 20's.

>

> My current symtoms are: Chronic halitosis which does not respond to

> local antibacterials; dizziness, lightheadedness, confusion, memory-

> loss, impaired vision, pale, clay-coloured stools, digestive

> problems, chronic fatigue and of course, the constant pressure

> underneath my diaphragm which is the most disturbing symptom. I also

> have terrible muscle cramp and allergies. I had these before I got

> ill anyway, but not to the degree I am experiencing at the moment.

> All my joints are extremely stiff.

>

> I have no idea of what to do next. I have not been given a correct

> diagnosis and yet I've been written off by the medical profession.

> I've lost count of how many appointments I've had concerning my

> problems. I don't know what wrong with me and I don't know what to

do

> about it. Logic leads me to believe I have an enlarged liver for

some

> reason and that most of my symptoms are due to this. But an enlarged

> liver does not automatically mean obstructions, does it? How do I

> know I have got some form of hepatitus or some kind of infection? I

> am totally in the dark.

September 10, 2001

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 00:07:04 -0000, conapt@... wrote in

<9nh078+iqppeGroups>:

>I saw seen numerous doctors within the following 10 months and was

>proscribed all sorts of useless medications including various

>antibiotics and stereoidal nasal sprays.

You didn't say what tests have been done by the doctors. What things

did they look for, or not look for?

Heidrun Beer

Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training

http://www.sgmt.at

September 10, 2001

Usually when people are prescribed antibiotic's and steroidal nasal

sprays that has to do with sinus and allergies. Is that your problem?

> I saw seen numerous doctors within the following 10 months and was

> >proscribed all sorts of useless medications including various

> >antibiotics and stereoidal nasal sprays.

>

September 10, 2001

> Usually when people are prescribed antibiotic's and steroidal

nasal

> sprays that has to do with sinus and allergies. Is that your

problem?

It is only one of many problems. I have exhaustively outlined all

current symptoms in detail. The most overwhelming problem is the

internal suffocation I am experiencing due to a constant pressure

beneath my right lung/diaphragm. The doctors seemed largely

unconcerned with this.

With the blood tests they were looking for infection, liver enzymes

and a couple of other things. I cant actually remember (memory loss

is one of my symptoms). I also, as mentioned, had an ultrasound scan

and chest x-ray. again, i cannot recall any details surrounding the

why's and wherefore's. again, you'll have to forgive my lack of

clarity.

Unfortunately, I did not keep the out of date capsules. In hindsight

that would have been extremely sensible to do, but I threw them away

to make sure I didn't take any more by accident (I have on accasion

taken the wrong capsule because the bottles look almost identical). I

should have kept them to be analysed.

I have already tried just about every herbal remedy and supplment I

can think of, and in substantial doses: garlic, pure allicin,

cayenne, echinacea, turmeric, goldenseal, bee propolis, ginseng,

mislk thisle, dandelion, bupleurum, ginger root, high dose Vit C,

omega oils etc etc etc. Only garlic or allicin in large amounts seems

to make a difference which is extremely short lived and thus

impossible to maintain.

I have already undergone the full parasite cleansing program. I

haven;t yet tried magnets or electric current. I will look into that.

I am just extremely frustrated (not to mention angry) at the way i

have been treated by the medical profession. I am 25 years of age,

but feel more like a 90 year old hobbling around with aching joints,

gasping for breath and feeling extremely ill. The doctors don't seem

to give a damn and I have spent almost an entire college loan on

trying to recover and have seemingly got nowhere. I have seen a

colonic hydrotherapist on three occasions, an ENT specialist, a

physiotherapist and a doctor specialising in bowel disorders. The

symptoms are so bad I feel unable to return to my undergraduate

studies. I find it hard to concentrate on normal things let alone

academic study.

September 10, 2001

> Usually when people are prescribed antibiotic's and steroidal

nasal

> sprays that has to do with sinus and allergies. Is that your

problem?

>

I have already outlined my symptoms in detail. The worst is the

internal suffocation caused my pressure below the right-hand side of

the diagphram. The doctors are unconcerned about this. I am not

however as it is making life unbearable.

I threw the out of date capsules away - something I now regret a

great deal. having said that, I couldn;t have afforded to have them

analysed.

I don;t know what they were looking for with reagrds to the abdominal

Ultrasound scan and chest x-ray. I do remember that the were looking

for infection and liver problems (enzyme imbalance, platelet count

probably) amongst other things with the 2 blood tests i had. It came

up all clear.

To date I have seen a Chinese herbalist, an ENT specialist, a

qualified physiotherapist, a colonic hydrotherapist (3 times) and a

doctor specialising in bowel disorders (the latter diagnosed me with

IBS). I also saw about five General Practioners on multiple occasions.

With regards to herbs and supplements, I have tried the following in

large amounts: cayenne, ginger, ginseng, turmeric, wormwood, cloves

and black walnut (as part of huldas parasite cleanse), milk thistle,

dandelion, bupleurum, artichoke, bee propolis, L-ornithine, L-

cysteine, Vit C (large amounts), vitamin and mineral supplements,

borage/flax oil, garlic, pure allicin, acidopholus and other

probiotics, cats claw, echinacea, goldenseal. There are others, but

this is all i can remember for now.

The only supplement to have any noticeable effect is garlic or

allicin capsules in large amounts. the effect is short-lived however,

and thus impossible to maintain.

I am in my mid-20's and honestly feel about 95 years of age. In fact,

it's almost crippling, both mentally and physically. I have no

confidence in conventional medicine and am very dubious about

alternative treatments as they often cost a lot of money and do

nothing or make you worse (a notible exception is colonic

hydrotherapy, which I would recommend to anyone).

I am not convinced that the so called " liver cleanse " actually

removes anything from the liver. As far as I am aware there is no

solid proof and if i have got an enlarged liver supposedly packed

with gallstones, then surely I would have felt some kind of relief

after four cleanses? I am not desparate enough to believe anything,

but desparate enough to try (providing i can afford it). Everything I

have tried so far - conventional and alternative - has failed to

reduce the pressure under my lung as well as all the other current

symptoms I listed in my previous post.

September 10, 2001

How do you know that expired herbal capsules caused your long-term illnesses?

Have you been tested for Lyme disease?

Unbiased opinion of quackwatch??? You are joking? I'll try. The information

provided on Quackwatch plays on the fears of people looking for effective

remedies in alternative medicine by scaring them into thinking that advocates

of alt med are engaging in charlatan activities and hustling dangerous herbs,

the reporting is bias and as one-sided as it gets and the " consumer watchdog "

activities of Barrett are questionable and offensive to the consumer

who has and does find relief with alternative remedies. It's garbage and

Kolas is his friend in the war against alt med.

Good luck.

In a message dated 9/9/2001 8:11:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

conapt@... writes:

<< I wouldn't normally post personal stuff like this but I am at a

complete loss regarding my health problems and desparate for further

advice.

It started one year ago after becoming seriously ill with a stomach

bug following ingestion of some very out-of-date herbal capsules. I

know that the over-aged herbs triggered the problem, but I don't know

what the problem is (i.e I have yet to be given a definitive

diagnosis).

The most immediate effects experienced were: increased

hypersensitivities/allergies, severe nausea, dull-

headedness/confusion, fatigue, congestion - mainly in the right

nostil with a white stringy discharge/mucus digestive problems, and,

most prominently: a pressure underneath the right lung or diaphragm

making breathing more difficult and causing me to lean slightly. Also

of great concern was the fact that my ribcage no longer looked

equalateral: the left side protrudes as normal; the right hand side

does not, and seems lower.

I saw seen numerous doctors within the following 10 months and was

proscribed all sorts of useless medications including various

antibiotics and stereoidal nasal sprays. The main problem, I kept

insisting, was the fact I seemed to have reduced lung capacity. They

all said my ribcage looked normal and that it was natural for the

lower ribs to change position. I had various blood tests, an X-ray

and an ultrasound scan - nothing. After ten months I was told I had

IBS and that there was nothing they could do. I then proceeded to

spend lots of money on alternative treatments. Finally, I saw a

Colonic Hydrotherapist who claimed that i did not have IBS, I merely

had a congested colon. After just one treatment the intense nausea

and and diahorea vanished and did not return. By the third treatment

it was clear that my colon was fairly clean so I had no follow-ups.

However, I still had all the other symptoms.

I was recommeded a book entitled " The amazing Liver Cleanse " by

s Moritz which gives similar, though less detailed, information

on gallstones and cleansing etc. In the past 3 months I have

radically changed my diet (I was vegetarian before that anyway),

undergone 4 cleanses and released about 150 stones, mainly small

white ones, also larger green ones and a number of red " spikes " . I

have also undertaken the parasite cleansing program. As well as this,

I have taken a course of Milk Thistle, Artichoke, dandelion and

bupleurum as well as a number of other supplements in fairly large

amounts.

I have had no improvement in the symptoms whatsoever, and in fact

feel weaker than usual. A year ago i could easily cycle several miles

without being out of breath. Now I can't climb a hill. I am in my mid

20's.

My current symtoms are: Chronic halitosis which does not respond to

local antibacterials; dizziness, lightheadedness, confusion, memory-

loss, impaired vision, pale, clay-coloured stools, digestive

problems, chronic fatigue and of course, the constant pressure

underneath my diaphragm which is the most disturbing symptom. I also

have terrible muscle cramp and allergies. I had these before I got

ill anyway, but not to the degree I am experiencing at the moment.

All my joints are extremely stiff.

I have no idea of what to do next. I have not been given a correct

diagnosis and yet I've been written off by the medical profession.

I've lost count of how many appointments I've had concerning my

problems. I don't know what wrong with me and I don't know what to do

about it. Logic leads me to believe I have an enlarged liver for some

reason and that most of my symptoms are due to this. But an enlarged

liver does not automatically mean obstructions, does it? How do I

know I have got some form of hepatitus or some kind of infection? I

am totally in the dark.

>>

In a message dated 9/10/2001 2:20:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

conapt@... writes:

<< I have already outlined my symptoms in detail. The worst is the