Calcium; oxygen; free radicals..

[Guest guest]

Mel, I enjoy the taste of milk better the Dr. way myself.

Actually, it is best to boil it for 10 seconds with a pinch of salt, pour

into your container, let it cool a bit, skim off the top, let it cool in the

fridge, skim the top off again and then add the vitamin C at that point, so

as not to have the vit. C be ruined by the heat.

Phyllis

In a message dated 3/1/03 5:19:11 PM Mountain Standard Time,

jonah@... writes:

> ...I've often wondered why on earth would Dr.Hulda recommend that we

> begin drinking lots of milk " again " after thinking that it was a major

> contributor to cancer..Of course we know now to boil it for about ten

> seconds and add a pinch of salt and vitamin c as it's perking..I've been

> doing that and it's delicious that way..Tastes better than before it's

> treated..

> I AM NOT AN EXPERT NOR CAN I RECOMMEND TREATMENTS...

> melville ;-)

>

[Guest guest]

> ..Of course we know now to boil it for about ten seconds and add a pinch of

> salt and vitamin c as it's perking..I've been doing that and it's delicious

> that way..

And don't forget.....you can zap your milk also!

Khepri

[Guest guest]

Okay Khepi, Are you serious? Phyllis

In a message dated 3/1/03 5:55:30 PM Mountain Standard Time,

khepri3@... writes:

> ..Of course we know now to boil it for about ten seconds and add a pinch of

> >salt and vitamin c as it's perking..I've been doing that and it's

> delicious

> >that way..

>

> And don't forget.....you can zap your milk also!

>

> Khepri

>

[Guest guest]

> Okay Khepi, Are you serious? Phyllis

Yeah, I think Hulda herself used to do it and may still do it....

Khepri

[Guest guest]

and while we're on the subject; I thought that we might be interested in this

article...I've often wondered why on earth would Dr.Hulda recommend that

we begin drinking lots of milk " again " after thinking that it was a major

contributor to cancer..Of course we know now to boil it for about ten seconds

and add a pinch of salt and vitamin c as it's perking..I've been doing that and

it's delicious that way..Tastes better than before it's treated..

I AM NOT AN EXPERT NOR CAN I RECOMMEND TREATMENTS...

melville ;-)

ps...thanks to brother Bill for sending me this article..

~~~~~~~~~~~~Can Calcium Cure Cancer?~~~~~~~~~~~`

In 1932 Otto Warburg won the Nobel Prize in Medicine for his discovery that

cancer was anaerobic: cancer occurs in the absence of free oxygen. As innocuous

as this discovery might seem, it is actually a startling and significant finding

worthy of a Nobel Prize. What it basically means is that cancer is caused by a

lack of free oxygen in the body and therefore, whatever causes this to occur is

the cause of all cancers.

In chemistry, alkali solutions (pH over 7.0) tend to absorb oxygen, while acids

(pH under 7.0) tend to expel oxygen. For example, a mild alkali can absorb over

100 times as much oxygen as a mild acid. Therefore, when the body becomes

acidic by dropping below pH 7.0 (note: all body fluids, except for stomach and

urine, are supposed to be mildly alkaline at pH 7.4), oxygen is driven out of

the body thereby, according to Nobel Prize winner Otto Warburg, inducing cancer.

Stomach fluids must remain acidic to digest food and urine must remain acidic to

remove wastes from the body. Blood is the exception. Blood must always remain

at an alkaline pH 7.4 so that it can retain its oxygen.

When adequate mineral consumption is in the diet, the blood is supplied the

crucial minerals required to maintain an alkaline pH of 7.4. However when

insufficient mineral consumption is in the diet, the body is forced to rob

(other body fluids) to pay (the blood). In doing so, it removes crucial

minerals, such as calcium, from the saliva, spinal fluids, kidneys, liver, etc.,

in order to maintain the blood at pH 7.4. This causes the de-mineralized fluids

and organs to become acidic and therefore anaerobic, thus inducing not only

cancer, but a host of other degenerative diseases, such as heart disease,

diabetes, arthritis, lupus, etc..

Everyone knows that the human body is made up of 78% water by weight, and that

water is hydrogen and oxygen gases. When nitrogen gas and carbon in the form of

carbon dioxide and methane gases are added, the total gas in the body by weight

becomes over 95%. Almost half of the remaining 5% that makes up the human body

and controls all biological functions is the mineral calcium.

No other mineral is capable of performing as many biological functions as is

calcium.

Calcium is involved in almost every biological function. This amazing mineral

provides the electrical energy for the heart to beat and for all muscle

movement. It is the calcium ion that is responsible for feeding every cell. It

does this by latching on to seven nutrient molecules and one water molecule and

pulls them through the nutrient channel. It then detaches its load and returns

to repeat the process. Another important biological job for calcium is DNA

replication, which is crucial for maintaining youth and a healthy body. DNA

replication is the basis for all body repair and can only occur on a substrate

of calcium. Thus, low calcium means low body repair and premature aging.

As important as all these and hundreds of other biological functions of calcium

are to human health, none is more important than the job of pH control. Calcium

to acid, is like water to a fire.

Calcium quickly DESTROYS OXYGEN ROBBING ACID in the body fluids. Thus, the more

calcium, the more oxygen, and therefore, the less cancer and other degenerative

disease.

This information then begs the question, " How much calcium is necessary? " The

answer can readily be determined by examining the diet of millions of people

around the world who consume over 100 times our Recommended Daily Allowance,

RDA, and who suffer the side effects of living 40 years longer than we do, of

aging at half the rate that we do, and of being devoid of cancer, heart disease,

mental disorders, diabetes, arthritis and all other degenerative diseases.

Almost all of these people, the Armenians, Azerbaijans and Georgians in Russian,

the Tibetans, the Hunzas of Northern Pakistan, the Vilcabamba Indians in

Ecuador, the Bamas in China and the Titicacas in Peru live at high altitudes

above 8000 feet. Their only source of water is melting glaciers, and the

glacial water is so turbid and white with ground up rock that all of these

cultures call the water " milk of the mountains " . Each quart of this water

contains over 17,000 milligrams of calcium along with other minerals and 60

trace metals.

These cultures drink several quarts each day and the water fertilized crops are

also loaded with calcium and other nutrients. The only long living and disease

free culture that does not live above an altitude of 8000 feet, is the

Okinawan's.Millions of Okinawans live in the southern coral islands of Japan

with the average life expectancy of 105 years, while mainland Japan is just 77

years. The Okinawans live on islands made of CORAL REEFS WHICH ARE MAINLY

CALCIUM. The Okinawans discovered over 500 years ago, that feeding coral sand,

produced from the weathering of the reefs, to the chickens and cows resulted in

twice as many eggs and twice as much milk. They also found that when the coral

sand is used as a fertilizer, crops increase by as much as three fold. When

finally, 500 years ago, they began to consume the coral sand themselves, all of

the under-utilized doctors were forced to leave the islands. This was known in

Japanese history as the Japanese Exodus.

The early European explorers discovered their secret and hauled shiploads of the

calcium rich coral sands back to Europe. In Madrid, Spain, the historic

monument of the world's first drugstore contains rows of shelves labeled " coral

calcium from Okinawa Japan " . Today millions of people all over the world

consume coral calcium, and as a result, there are millions of medical

testimonials.

The phenomenon of preventing and reversing degenerative disease through the

consumption of large amounts of mineral and vitamins did not go un-noticed by

men of medicine. Hundreds of years ago European doctors were prescribing coral

calcium and other nutrients to their patients.

In the 1950s, Dr. Carl Reich, M.D. discovered that his patients were able to

cure themselves of almost all degenerative diseases by consuming several times

the RDA of calcium, magnesium, vitamin-D and other nutrients. Dr. Reich was the

first North American doctor to prescribe mega doses of minerals and vitamins to

his patients and is considered by many to be the father of preventive medicine.

By the 1980s, Dr. Reich had cured thousands, but lost his license for explaining

that the consumption of mineral nutrients, such as calcium, could prevent cancer

and a host of other diseases. This concept was considered too simple to accept

by the medical wisdom of the day. However, by the late 1990s, other medical

men of wisdom were also discovering that calcium supplements could indeed

reverse cancer.

In the October 13, 1998 issue of the New York Times, an article appeared

entitled " Calcium Takes Its Place As a Superstar of Nutrients " . The article

reported that a study published in the Journal of the American Medical

Association declared that " increasing calcium induced normal development of the

epithelia cells and might also prevent cancer in such organs as the breast,

prostate and pancreas " .

It also reported that the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition published that

virtually no major organ system escapes calcium's influence and that a research

team from the University of Southern California found that adding calcium to the

diet lowered the blood pressure in 110 black teenagers.

The January 14, 1999 issue of the Phoenix Republic wrote in an article entitled

" Calcium Reduces Tumors "

that the New England Journal of Medicine reported that adding calcium to the

diet can keep you from getting tumors in your large intestine.

Then the February, 1999 issue of the Readers Digest wrote in an article entitled

" The 'Superstar' Nutrient " that the Journal of the American Medical Association

published that " when the participants' consumption reached 1500 milligrams of

calcium a day, cell growth in the colon improved toward normal

(this means that the cancer was reversed) " .

The Digest also reported that the Metabolic Bone Center at St. Luke's Hospital

believes that " a chronic deficiency of calcium is largely responsible for

premenstrual syndrome (PMS) " and that " a lot of women are avoiding the sun and

their vitamin-D levels may be very low " . In the same article, the Digest

reported that " in 1997 the large federally financed trial found that a diet

containing 1200 milligrams of calcium significantly lowered blood pressure in

adults " . Then the May 3, 1999 edition of US World News Report wrote in an

article entitled " Calcium's Powerful Mysterious Ways " that " Researchers are

increasingly finding that the humble mineral calcium plays a major role in

warding off major illnesses from high blood pressure to colon cancer " and that

" You name the disease, and calcium is beginning to have a place there " (

McCarron, a nephrologist at Oregon Health Sciences University). Unfortunately,

most doctors have not heard the news that their own journals and major

newspapers and magazines are reporting that natural supplements, especially

calcium, can cure and prevent disease.

The scientific evidence that calcium is the key to good and long health is

overwhelming.

One does not have to be a rocket scientist to read simple articles in reputable

newspapers, magazines and the doctor's own journals that are all saying that

disease can be cured by diet. Also one can simply look at the millions of

people around the world that never get sick and say, " We also want to drink some

milk of the mountains " . Unfortunately, all of the milk of the mountains is

consumed as fast as it is produced. However, the Japanese could cure the world

with their " milk of the oceans " known as coral calcium, the calcium factor of

good health.

The most frequent question asked the author is, " What do you do? " The response

always begins with, " I have not taken a pill in over 30 years.

Psychologically, taking pills is synonymous with taking drugs. Also, many

people have difficulty swallowing pills. For most, many of the pills remain

intact as they pass through the intestine undigested. The obvious solution is

to do what the author does. First, the author puts all of the non-liquid

nutrient pills and capsules into a blender to make a pulverized blend. He then

uses a flour sifter to remove the broken up oversized capsule containers. The

author takes 24 pills and capsules each day, and he has found that when

pulverized, the blend fills a heaping teaspoon. Thus the author pulverizes a

three-month portion and puts it into a large bottle labeled " Hunza Powder " and

then takes a heaping spoonful each day. Secondly, the nutrient blend should be

taken at meal times.

For the elderly, this is the only time that they have sufficient acid in their

stomachs to digest food. Thirdly, one glass of milk or one glass of apple juice

should be taken with each meal so that the lactates or malates will keep the

digested nutrients ionized even as they pass through the alkali duodenum,

thereby allowing for greater absorption. Also, the consumption of fruits and

vegetables with meals provides anions which enhance the absorption of nutrients.

The second most frequent question asked is, " Which are the 24 pills that

you take? " The answer is 3 coral calcium (1.5 grams), 2 vitamin-D (5000 IU

each), 6 multivitamins (one-a-day), 6 multi-minerals (containing 60 trace

minerals), 3 calcium (citrate), 1 magnesium citrate, 2 vitamin-C (60 mg each), 1

vitamin-E (500mg), and 10 milligrams cesium chloride. The result is Hunza

Powder. The author takes a heaping teaspoon each day, usually mixed in a fruit

slush or a banana shake.

Barefoot is the author of the book, " The Calcium Factor " This book takes

scientific knowledge, provided by some of the world's most renowned scientists,

and brings it together into one cohesive scientific argument that demonstrates

that nutritional deficiency is the cause of disease and that, by correcting the

deficiency, disease can also be cured, not only prevented.

To order, phone 877-423-3250

or Click Here to order on line

[Guest guest]

Can you share how? Any metal electrode will

emit a certain number of metal molecules into

the milk, which I haven't figured out how to

circumvent...so this " cure " sounds not so good

unless someone has some method to share?

Katy

>

> And don't forget.....you can zap your milk also!

>

> Khepri

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds good Phyllis;

But wouldn't there be ingredients in the stuff that you skim off..I stir it back

in and gives it that smooth creamy taste..What I've been doing is putting the

hot milk with the vit C on top of cold cereals like shreddies with fruit on top

(which are my very favourite); just in case there's mold..Seems reasonable

anyway..

melville...

Re: Calcium; oxygen; free radicals..

Mel, I enjoy the taste of milk better the Dr. way myself.

Actually, it is best to boil it for 10 seconds with a pinch of salt, pour

into your container, let it cool a bit, skim off the top, let it cool in the

fridge, skim the top off again and then add the vitamin C at that point, so

as not to have the vit. C be ruined by the heat.

Phyllis

In a message dated 3/1/03 5:19:11 PM Mountain Standard Time,

jonah@... writes:

> ...I've often wondered why on earth would Dr.Hulda recommend that we

> begin drinking lots of milk " again " after thinking that it was a major

> contributor to cancer..Of course we know now to boil it for about ten

> seconds and add a pinch of salt and vitamin c as it's perking..I've been

> doing that and it's delicious that way..Tastes better than before it's

> treated..

> I AM NOT AN EXPERT NOR CAN I RECOMMEND TREATMENTS...

> melville ;-)

>

[Guest guest]

I know Robt. Barefoot pretty well having talked to him numerous times at

his home and office

in Canada. I took his complete course of calcium, magnesium, Vit D,

sunshine and Cesium.... I took it twice with a gap of several

weeks in between. He claims that now my

cancer will never metastasize even though

my PSA may go very high. He gave me a

couple of big business owners in Canada to

contact about their similar experience with

his methodology..they could not say for sure

it was this treatment that helped them because

of overlapping other medications they took

at the same time. But their prostate cancer

seems under control. Several investors

are trying to build one or two large clinics in Canada to

prove these methods...at least they were about

a year ago. The combination of these ingredients, and only these, in

proper proportion are supposed to get through the cell covering of the

cancer cell to allow oxygen in.

And as Mel has noted this combo turns the

Ph alkaline to allow this to work. HOWever,

as Barefoot told me, this can take many months

if your body has been acidic for years. I followed his diet for 6-8

months and never could get my PH high enough. It took years

to be wrong and can take that long to correct

the body...he made that clear to me many times

when I called him for more advice to get my Ph

up sooner. Barefoot has since become quite

a celebrity on late night informercials for his

coral calcium. Best, JR

[Guest guest]

at the risk of sounding stupid... phyllis, what kind of container do

you put your boiled milk into?? sometimes it's the small details that

baffle me and keep me from actally beginning.

tia

virginia

>

> Mel, I enjoy the taste of milk better the Dr. way

myself.

> Actually, it is best to boil it for 10 seconds with a pinch of

salt, pour

> into your container, let it cool a bit, skim off the top, let it

cool in the

> fridge, skim the top off again and then add the vitamin C at that

point, so

> as not to have the vit. C be ruined by the heat.

> Phyllis

>

> In a message dated 3/1/03 5:19:11 PM Mountain Standard Time,

> jonah@n... writes:

>

> > ...I've often wondered why on earth would Dr.Hulda

recommend that we

> > begin drinking lots of milk " again " after thinking that it was a

major

> > contributor to cancer..Of course we know now to boil it for about

ten

> > seconds and add a pinch of salt and vitamin c as it's

perking..I've been

> > doing that and it's delicious that way..Tastes better than before

it's

> > treated..

> > I AM NOT AN EXPERT NOR CAN I RECOMMEND TREATMENTS...

> > melville ;-)

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Test. I've tried to post a few different questions but they didn't

post. I was trying to start a new topic. So now I'm testing if the

reply button will work ????

[Guest guest]

JR

You might want to read about all about pH on my website and learn what Dr.

Ted Morter, DC has to teach about pH. You will find it listed under " articles "

It is titled " pH and Your Health Potential " . Dr. Morter runs a clinic in

, Arkansas and I have spoken personally with two terminal cancer patients

who went there and were a live two years later when I spoke with them. I

haven't attempted to speak with them in the past two years. Dr. Morter does say

that negative emotions cause acidity and tells you how to check for this. He

has written books to deal with the emotional side which I recommend. Lists are

at the end of the article. I have no financial connection to Dr. Morter, his

clinic or his books.

Kallie

www.4optimallife.com

Products and services to enhance your health and life.

Water Ionizers, Magnetic Sleep Pads, Accutone CDs, Zappers, Energy Therapies -

EFT, ERT.

Re: [ ] Calcium; oxygen; free radicals..

I know Robt. Barefoot pretty well having talked to him numerous times at

his home and office

in Canada. I took his complete course of calcium, magnesium, Vit D,

sunshine and Cesium.... I took it twice with a gap of several

weeks in between. He claims that now my

cancer will never metastasize even though

my PSA may go very high. He gave me a

couple of big business owners in Canada to

contact about their similar experience with

his methodology..they could not say for sure

it was this treatment that helped them because

of overlapping other medications they took

at the same time. But their prostate cancer

seems under control. Several investors

are trying to build one or two large clinics in Canada to

prove these methods...at least they were about

a year ago. The combination of these ingredients, and only these, in

proper proportion are supposed to get through the cell covering of the

cancer cell to allow oxygen in.

And as Mel has noted this combo turns the

Ph alkaline to allow this to work. HOWever,

as Barefoot told me, this can take many months

if your body has been acidic for years. I followed his diet for 6-8

months and never could get my PH high enough. It took years

to be wrong and can take that long to correct

the body...he made that clear to me many times

when I called him for more advice to get my Ph

up sooner. Barefoot has since become quite

a celebrity on late night informercials for his

coral calcium. Best, JR

[Guest guest]

Hi Katy;

I don't know foreshore but wouldn't the " current " travel through the milk just

as it would through " bodily fluids " ? This is something I've wondered about

too..For instance could you put milk or another liquid in to a stainless steel

bowl; attach the electrodes; and " zap " it that way? Would the current or the

" frequency " affect the fluid, and would it also pollute the fluid with metal

molecules? How's about that Leo; Arthur; or ? What is this news we hear

about being able to " zap " our food; and what about being able to eliminate the

benzine or the iso-propyl alchohol??? We need to know more..

melville ;-)

Re: Calcium; oxygen; free radicals..

Can you share how? Any metal electrode will

emit a certain number of metal molecules into

the milk, which I haven't figured out how to

circumvent...so this " cure " sounds not so good

unless someone has some method to share?

Katy

>

> And don't forget.....you can zap your milk also!

>

> Khepri

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kallie..I'm going to check that out...

Interesting that the Dr. mentions that <<negative emotions cause acidity >>; as

that's where prayer or meditation helps us to minimize the affects of

cancer..You know it's such a wonderful thing to have a close friend who has the

time to spend with us " cancer cases " and encourages us to exercize among other

necessary things..

melville ;-)

Re: [ ] Calcium; oxygen; free radicals..

I know Robt. Barefoot pretty well having talked to him numerous times at

his home and office

in Canada. I took his complete course of calcium, magnesium, Vit D,

sunshine and Cesium.... I took it twice with a gap of several

weeks in between. He claims that now my

cancer will never metastasize even though

my PSA may go very high. He gave me a

couple of big business owners in Canada to

contact about their similar experience with

his methodology..they could not say for sure

it was this treatment that helped them because

of overlapping other medications they took

at the same time. But their prostate cancer

seems under control. Several investors

are trying to build one or two large clinics in Canada to

prove these methods...at least they were about

a year ago. The combination of these ingredients, and only these, in

proper proportion are supposed to get through the cell covering of the

cancer cell to allow oxygen in.

And as Mel has noted this combo turns the

Ph alkaline to allow this to work. HOWever,

as Barefoot told me, this can take many months

if your body has been acidic for years. I followed his diet for 6-8

months and never could get my PH high enough. It took years

to be wrong and can take that long to correct

the body...he made that clear to me many times

when I called him for more advice to get my Ph

up sooner. Barefoot has since become quite

a celebrity on late night informercials for his

coral calcium. Best, JR

[Guest guest]

Mel, I would say, if you enjoy the milk without skimming, go for it, as

you already have boiled it with seasalt and added your vitamin C. I am not

an expert either. Haha.

Phyllis

In a message dated 3/2/03 6:46:05 PM Mountain Standard Time,

jonah@... writes:

> Sounds good Phyllis;

> But wouldn't there be ingredients in the stuff that you skim off..I stir it

> back in and gives it that smooth creamy taste..What I've been doing is

> putting the hot milk with the vit C on top of cold cereals like shreddies

> with fruit on top (which are my very favourite); just in case there's

> mold..Seems reasonable anyway..

> melville...

> Re: Calcium; oxygen; free radicals..

>

>

>

> Mel, I enjoy the taste of milk better the Dr. way myself.

> Actually, it is best to boil it for 10 seconds with a pinch of salt, pour

> into your container, let it cool a bit, skim off the top, let it cool in

> the

> fridge, skim the top off again and then add the vitamin C at that point, so

>

> as not to have the vit. C be ruined by the heat.

> Phyllis

>

> In a message dated 3/1/03 5:19:11 PM Mountain Standard Time,

> jonah@... writes:

>

> >...I've often wondered why on earth would Dr.Hulda recommend that we

>

> >begin drinking lots of milk " again " after thinking that it was a major

> >contributor to cancer..Of course we know now to boil it for about ten

> >seconds and add a pinch of salt and vitamin c as it's perking..I've been

> >doing that and it's delicious that way..Tastes better than before it's

> >treated..

> >I AM NOT AN EXPERT NOR CAN I RECOMMEND TREATMENTS...

> >melville ;-)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well, sure....the milk can be zapped. I've even thought of spraying fabrics

with water and zapping them (to kill dust mites)....as the liquid will carry the

current. BUT the metal electrode also loses some of itself down stream into the

electron flow. So...if one wants copper in their millk, well.....have at it!

One idea I had was make electrodes out of silver. Having 99.9% pure silver bars

and just attaching to them with alligators and sitting the electrode " just so "

in the milk so only the silver touches it and not the alligator. Is it a plan?

Yes...but wire made of silver would really work as well and be a potentially

longer, more probe-like electrode and be easier to keep its upper end that is

attached with an alligator OUT of foods. I've only thought of this stuff, have

yet to do it. (AND...the food s/b in glass or plastic, I sure wouldn't use a

metal container, not even s/s)

Katy

> Hi Katy;

> I don't know foreshore but wouldn't the " current " travel through the milk just

as it would through " bodily fluids " ? This is something I've wondered about

too..For instance could you put milk or another liquid in to a stainless steel

bowl; attach the electrodes; and " zap " it that way? Would the current or the

" frequency " affect the fluid, and would it also pollute the fluid with metal

molecules? How's about that Leo; Arthur; or ? What is this news we hear

about being able to " zap " our food; and what about being able to eliminate the

benzine or the iso-propyl alchohol??? We need to know more..

> melville ;-)

>

> Re: Calcium; oxygen; free radicals..

>

>

> Can you share how? Any metal electrode will

> emit a certain number of metal molecules into

> the milk, which I haven't figured out how to

> circumvent...so this " cure " sounds not so good

> unless someone has some method to share?

> Katy

>

> >

> > And don't forget.....you can zap your milk also!

> >

> > Khepri

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/2/03 9:39:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jonah@... writes:

> Can you share how? Any metal electrode will

> emit a certain number of metal molecules into

> the milk, which I haven't figured out how to

> circumvent...so this " cure " sounds not so good

> unless someone has some method to share?

> Katy

>

It was back when the zapper had copper hand-holds......it probably does

introduce ionic copper into the milk.....just as it did the body when

zapping......but if you don't like the idea of ionic copper...then use to

silver electrodes...: ) A double whammy!

Khepri

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/2/03 9:39:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jonah@... writes:

> Hi Katy;

> I don't know foreshore but wouldn't the " current " travel through the milk

> just as it would through " bodily fluids " ?

Yup.

> This is something I've wondered about too..For instance could you put milk

or > another liquid in to a stainless steel bowl; attach the electrodes; and

> " zap " it that way?

Like Katy pointed out, you will be introducing ions, I think, from whatever

metal you are using....if I recall " stainless " is not a desireable one...so

you'd have to locate a copper, silver, gold (whoopee!)....ideally you would

rotate the bowls or just locate a silver one.....probably even a silver plate

would be good in this case....(easier to locate and less expensive)......

>Would the current or the " frequency " affect the fluid, and would it also

pollute the > fluid with metal molecules?

Hmmmm, " pollute " depends on the metal used....silver colloid or particles in

the milk probably wouldn't be considered a pollutant...: )

How's about that Leo; Arthur; or ? What is this news we hear about

being

> able to " zap " our food; and what about being able to eliminate the benzine

> or the iso-propyl alchohol??? We need to know more..

I'll leave that to someone else....: )

> melville ;-)

>

[Guest guest]

> So...if one wants copper in their millk, well.....have at it!

>

Colloidal copper is sold on the market next to the silver and gold

solutions.......and copper deficiency has been linked with ummm....... " loose

stools " .....

Although.....as your cautions suggest...I wouldn't just start taking

colloidal copper without a blood test of some sort....: )

Khepri

[Guest guest]

Re: Calcium; oxygen; free radicals..

>

>

> Can you share how? Any metal electrode will

> emit a certain number of metal molecules into

> the milk, which I haven't figured out how to

> circumvent...so this " cure " sounds not so good

> unless someone has some method to share?

> Katy

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Whale thar Khepri...I fell off a " loose stool " at a bar one time..Hahahahah

;-D

" Loose stools; stink ships " ..Hahahaha ;-D

" Stool Pigeons are brown in colour " ..Haha..choke!! cough!!! ROTF LOL

I was thinking more of putting a " wet " paper towel between the alligator clips

and the " glass " milk containor..That would stop the intrusion of metal into the

milk; wouldn't it? Someone has suggested " silver electrodes " but where do we

get those? And how expensive are they? Someone must have all of this figured out

eh? OK " genius " wherever you are; what do we do?

melville ;-)

Re: Calcium; oxygen; free radicals..

> So...if one wants copper in their millk, well.....have at it!

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Colloidal copper is sold on the market next to the silver and gold

solutions.......and copper deficiency has been linked with ummm....... " loose

stools " .....

Although.....as your cautions suggest...I wouldn't just start taking

colloidal copper without a blood test of some sort....: )

Khepri

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Re: Calcium; oxygen; free radicals..

> So...if one wants copper in their millk, well.....have at it!

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Colloidal copper is sold on the market next to the silver and gold

solutions.......and copper deficiency has been linked with ummm....... " loose

stools " .....

Although.....as your cautions suggest...I wouldn't just start taking

colloidal copper without a blood test of some sort....: )

Khepri

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From: <khepri3@...>

> Like Katy pointed out, you will be introducing ions, I think, from whatever

> metal you are using....if I recall " stainless " is not a desireable one...so

> you'd have to locate a copper, silver, gold (whoopee!)....ideally you would

> rotate the bowls or just locate a silver one.....probably even a silver plate

> would be good in this case....(easier to locate and less expensive)......

no, NOT copper. Copper is toxic.

And ASSUMING silver is not toxic is, well,

an assumption. Certain levels seem very beneficial,

but unless one has a method to measure, just

winging it and hoping doesn't seem real good to

me either. Silver plate would seem dangerous to me.

Only 99.9% pure silver would be okay to my mind.

And gold again, would have to be 24k, or the not-

gold part would emit toxic metal ions.

Katy

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tu Walt. I personally have no shortage

in the silver dept!

Katy

> Hi Katy: You can get silver 99.9 rods at www.silverpuppy.com check out his

silver machines too!

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> Walt

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jonah@... writes:

> I was thinking more of putting a " wet " paper towel between the alligator

> clips and the " glass " milk containor..That would stop the intrusion of

> metal into the milk; wouldn't it?

Sure....you'd have to measure for resistance within that set up.....remember

Dr. s formula...frequency/time/current.....if one of those is lacking

one will not get sufficient results....

> Someone has suggested " silver electrodes " but where do we get those? And

how

> expensive are they?

There all over online....not bad on the price.....relatively....just buy as

pure as you can....

Khepri

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In a message dated 3/3/03 4:21:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,

eldorado@... writes:

> no, NOT copper. Copper is toxic.

Copper is not toxic at the appropiate levels....

> And ASSUMING silver is not toxic is, well,

> an assumption.

Sigh.....of course is has a certain level of toxicity....if it didn't IT

WOULD NOT KILL ANYTHING!!!!

Certain levels seem very beneficial,>

> but unless one has a method to measure, just

> winging it and hoping doesn't seem real good to

> me either.

*What* are you talking about? I think you're making conclusions again without

all the facts....you should try asking first...to be clear........

>Silver plate would seem dangerous to me.

Why is that? (See...is that so hard?....I have a reply, but I want to clarify

where you are coming from...)

> Only 99.9% pure silver would be okay to my mind.

Ideally you would use a purer form than that....

> And gold again, would have to be 24k, or the not-

> gold part would emit toxic metal ions.

Exactly....: )

Khepri

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