Re: My symptoms - please help!

May 27, 2005

I went to his house and spent 1.5 hours with him. He first takes a

close up digital image of both your irises them blows them up on a

screen so the color part of the eye is about 15 inches in diameter.

This man has about 35 years of healing experience and is, IMO the

best iridologist in the world and a nutritional program that will

actually heal you, properly.

It has been his experience that unless you are getting changes in

your irises you are not doing the right thing. This man is living

proof of the validity of his work. He changed his eye color from

olive brown to blue over a 15 year period eating an all raw animal

food diet. Years after that he began targeting certain organs with

food combinations and actually got rid of all the discoloration,

flecks, spots etc. in his irises that indicate less than OPTIMAL

health. This man has a perfect pair of irises with a complete circle

of solid blue filaments radiating out from the pupils. I met him

after 35 years of him eating this way and it was actually scary

looking into his eyes. They were like looking into the eyes of a

saint, with a combination of infant innocence and supreme wisdom

with the depth of a crystal clear, untouched lake that shimmers in

the sun. When I first made eye contact with him I became so

emotional I actually could not walk into his house as he greeted me

with all smiles at the door. pretty powerful stuff for a man who is

about 5'7 " tall and his voice, well I will leave that up to you to

hear some day.

In summary, in 4 years eating his Primaldiet I have gone from being

bi-polar and depressed with all the unattractive physical symptoms

you speak of to having a wonderful life now with energy, optimism,

beauty and a career. I possess the physique of a man who does

regular, serious body building and I do NO exercise. I weigh more

than a man my height would weigh because the density of my muscle

and organ tissue is much greater. My eyes are clear and I am no

longer bloated and swollen up with edema from cooked foods and high

insulin response. I am confident and expressing my God given

masculine qualities now with a deep, relaxed and resonant voice and

a presence that demands respect when I want it without force or

confrontation. Compared to the frail, hyper, emotional and sensitive

person I used to be, this change is very welcome. I also asked the

most beautiful girl I have ever seen in my life on a date today to

go fishing with me and she was nervous talking to me!

You do not belong on this egroup . You belong on the primaldiet

egroup.

Take care,

Corey

-- In Dr , " ..: )::.. " <ombass@m...>

wrote:

> Greetings...

> I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to figure out what

exactly is

> going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years I have bobbed

around

> from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all of which

ended up being

> incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to figure things out.

>

> The closest thing I can come to is either Fibromyalgia / Chronic

Fatigue, or

> Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems like I may have

a lot of

> different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY BODY JUST

WONT

> **HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

>

> Can anyone please help to cut through the fog of confusion and

suffering? I

> am only 30 years old, and have been suffering for too long!! I am

SO TIRED

> of Drs not knowing what to tell me, cramming a million pills in my

face, and

> taking all my money and in return getting nothing besides

frustration and

> side effects.

>

> Overall it seems as if my immune system is essentially just not

functioning.

> My body should have healed by now. I am only 30. It feels like

something

> SYSTEMIC is sapping my energy and hampering my immune system...

BUT WHAT IS

> IT!?!?!?!?!?

>

> Here's what is going on with me:

>

> MUSCLE PAIN / WEAKNESS:

> My muscles hurt when I use them, specifically my shoulders, neck

and arms.

> And I am talking about light use - like reading some magazines or

driving

> for 30 min. I was in some fairly severe rear-ending car accidents

in my

> earlier years, so theoretically this could be causing some of my

muscle

> pain/weakness all these years later? Myofascial Pain Syndrome?

> Fibromyalgia?

>

> ENERGY:

> My energy levels are also at an all time low - it is as if

my " chi " or life

> force is just COMPLETELY DRAINED. Hard to describe, but my " life

energy "

> feels like it is not even there at all. No excitement, no

happiness, no

> creative drive, no ANYTHING. I feel like a walking husk, like

everything has

> just gone flat line. Is this what Chronic Fatigue feels like?

>

> ANXIETY:

> I have a LOT of anxiety that appears to come from a biochemical /

biological

> level. In other words, I don't get all worked up about something

and thus

> experience anxiety. Quite the opposite: it's a nice day, I am in a

good

> mood, yet I have twisting, nervous anxiety running through my

system.

> Frustrating and hard to deal with to say the least.

>

> LIBIDO:

> My libido has never been so low in my life - it as if it is non-

existent.

>

> BRAIN FOG:

> When I eat sugars or alcohol, I get the dreaded brain fog that

Candida and

> Fibromyalgia sufferers experience. This leads me to think that I

have

> Candida at a bare minimum.

>

> DARK CIRCLES UNDER EYES:

> These vary in intensity, but are always there to the point that

people often

> comment with things like " wow, you look tired! " or " wow, you look

terrible!

> Get some sleep! " etc etc etc. and it is not only very frustrating,

but also

> very embarrassing and self-esteem sapping.

>

> WHEAT SENSITIVITY:

> When I eat wheat (like the amount in an order of tempura shrimp),

I get

> upper extremity muscle pain, and very uncomfortable anxiety that

almost

> seems to come from a nervous system level. Hard to explain but it

as if

> someone is sticking a fork in my whole nervous system and just

twisting.

> Very uncomfortable, and usually is accompanied by stomach

upset/nausea.

>

> ALLERGIES / CHEMICAL SENSITIVITIES:

> I am sensitive to many fragrances, detergents, etc so avoid all

those, but

> also have problems with dust mites, diesel smoke, etc. If I eat

food that

> was wrapped in certain types of Saran (PVC) wrap, I break out in

hives. This

> was recently discovered to be a sensitivity to phthalates which are

> chemicals put into some plastics to soften them. See

> http://www.calisafe.org/_disc1/00000066.htm and

> http://www.jobwerx.com/news/Archives/plastics_biz-

id=947140_529.html for

> more info on phthalates.

>

> _jason_

> _________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

May 27, 2005

, I too share alot of your pains and symptoms which

individually come and go but truely place a huge drain on my life.

Aside from what you mentioned eating fat/grease causes my symptoms to

increase. Now I am at the point where I become very sick. Years ago

I began eating low/no fat and immediately began to feel much better

overall however last December things turned for the worst and I am

feel sick all the time. One thing you may want to check is if you

have a hepatic condition like Hep-C or something. When your liver is

under attacked you can experience alot of these symptoms.

Three things I have done of late which have improved my situation is

to use a bentonite/psillium mix twice a day for two weeks going down

to once a day therafter. If you try this take special note to

examine your stools for anything that looks out of place and also to

note any stomach or intestinal pains. Second, I take a complete

bioflora product with 8oz of low/no fat yogurt twice a day. I also

take a digestion aid/supplement with large meals. These sound pretty

simple but I really began to feel better soon after. I am waiting to

see a specialist (GI) next month and will keep you apprised of what

maybe determined if anything. I have been warned by 2 doctors that

finding intestinal or digestion problems can be very expensive and

the results inconclusive. Best of luck finding the cause of your

trouble!

> Greetings...

> I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to figure out what

exactly is

> going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years I have bobbed

around

> from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all of which ended

up being

> incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to figure things out.

>

> The closest thing I can come to is either Fibromyalgia / Chronic

Fatigue, or

> Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems like I may have a

lot of

> different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY BODY JUST

WONT

> **HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

>

> Can anyone please help to cut through the fog of confusion and

suffering? I

> am only 30 years old, and have been suffering for too long!! I am

SO TIRED

> of Drs not knowing what to tell me, cramming a million pills in my

face, and

> taking all my money and in return getting nothing besides

frustration and

> side effects.

>

> Overall it seems as if my immune system is essentially just not

functioning.

> My body should have healed by now. I am only 30. It feels like

something

> SYSTEMIC is sapping my energy and hampering my immune system... BUT

WHAT IS

> IT!?!?!?!?!?

>

> Here's what is going on with me:

>

> MUSCLE PAIN / WEAKNESS:

> My muscles hurt when I use them, specifically my shoulders, neck

and arms.

> And I am talking about light use - like reading some magazines or

driving

> for 30 min. I was in some fairly severe rear-ending car accidents

in my

> earlier years, so theoretically this could be causing some of my

muscle

> pain/weakness all these years later? Myofascial Pain Syndrome?

> Fibromyalgia?

>

> ENERGY:

> My energy levels are also at an all time low - it is as if my " chi "

or life

> force is just COMPLETELY DRAINED. Hard to describe, but my " life

energy "

> feels like it is not even there at all. No excitement, no

happiness, no

> creative drive, no ANYTHING. I feel like a walking husk, like

everything has

> just gone flat line. Is this what Chronic Fatigue feels like?

>

> ANXIETY:

> I have a LOT of anxiety that appears to come from a biochemical /

biological

> level. In other words, I don't get all worked up about something

and thus

> experience anxiety. Quite the opposite: it's a nice day, I am in a

good

> mood, yet I have twisting, nervous anxiety running through my

system.

> Frustrating and hard to deal with to say the least.

>

> LIBIDO:

> My libido has never been so low in my life - it as if it is non-

existent.

>

> BRAIN FOG:

> When I eat sugars or alcohol, I get the dreaded brain fog that

Candida and

> Fibromyalgia sufferers experience. This leads me to think that I

have

> Candida at a bare minimum.

>

> DARK CIRCLES UNDER EYES:

> These vary in intensity, but are always there to the point that

people often

> comment with things like " wow, you look tired! " or " wow, you look

terrible!

> Get some sleep! " etc etc etc. and it is not only very frustrating,

but also

> very embarrassing and self-esteem sapping.

>

> WHEAT SENSITIVITY:

> When I eat wheat (like the amount in an order of tempura shrimp), I

get

> upper extremity muscle pain, and very uncomfortable anxiety that

almost

> seems to come from a nervous system level. Hard to explain but it

as if

> someone is sticking a fork in my whole nervous system and just

twisting.

> Very uncomfortable, and usually is accompanied by stomach

upset/nausea.

>

> ALLERGIES / CHEMICAL SENSITIVITIES:

> I am sensitive to many fragrances, detergents, etc so avoid all

those, but

> also have problems with dust mites, diesel smoke, etc. If I eat

food that

> was wrapped in certain types of Saran (PVC) wrap, I break out in

hives. This

> was recently discovered to be a sensitivity to phthalates which are

> chemicals put into some plastics to soften them. See

> http://www.calisafe.org/_disc1/00000066.htm and

> http://www.jobwerx.com/news/Archives/plastics_biz-

id=947140_529.html for

> more info on phthalates.

>

> _jason_

> _________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

May 27, 2005

HI

I've had all of the symptoms that you mention. The only thing that I

continue to deal with now is Multiple Chemical Sensitivities which is

disipating more and more daily.

If you check the files section in this group and then go to success

stories, you'll see mine.

Reading this book will answer your questions..

http://ener-chi.com/more_key.htm

s has a forum on www.curezone.com

http://www.curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=337 & t=34666

Go through old posts to find answers to your questions.

There's a lot to it, but it's basically very simple, clean up your

body so that it can heal itself, and give it the proper

nutrition....proper for YOUR body.

I joined this group some 2 1/2 to 3 years ago, and the things that are

considered the " normal " treatment didn't work for me.

It's about balance.

Candida is a symptom of a larger problem, not a disease.

If you have any specific questions about anything s talks about

or about my healing, please feel free to ask, either here or in

private emails.

Rick

> Greetings...

> I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to figure out what

exactly is

> going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years I have bobbed around

> from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all of which ended

up being

> incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to figure things out.

>

> The closest thing I can come to is either Fibromyalgia / Chronic

Fatigue, or

> Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems like I may have a

lot of

> different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY BODY JUST WONT

> **HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

>

> Can anyone please help to cut through the fog of confusion and

suffering? I

> am only 30 years old, and have been suffering for too long!! I am

SO TIRED

> of Drs not knowing what to tell me, cramming a million pills in my

face, and

> taking all my money and in return getting nothing besides

frustration and

> side effects.

>

> Overall it seems as if my immune system is essentially just not

functioning.

> My body should have healed by now. I am only 30. It feels like something

> SYSTEMIC is sapping my energy and hampering my immune system... BUT

WHAT IS

> IT!?!?!?!?!?

>

> Here's what is going on with me:

>

> MUSCLE PAIN / WEAKNESS:

> My muscles hurt when I use them, specifically my shoulders, neck and

arms.

> And I am talking about light use - like reading some magazines or

driving

> for 30 min. I was in some fairly severe rear-ending car accidents in my

> earlier years, so theoretically this could be causing some of my muscle

> pain/weakness all these years later? Myofascial Pain Syndrome?

> Fibromyalgia?

>

> ENERGY:

> My energy levels are also at an all time low - it is as if my " chi "

or life

> force is just COMPLETELY DRAINED. Hard to describe, but my " life energy "

> feels like it is not even there at all. No excitement, no happiness, no

> creative drive, no ANYTHING. I feel like a walking husk, like

everything has

> just gone flat line. Is this what Chronic Fatigue feels like?

>

> ANXIETY:

> I have a LOT of anxiety that appears to come from a biochemical /

biological

> level. In other words, I don't get all worked up about something and

thus

> experience anxiety. Quite the opposite: it's a nice day, I am in a good

> mood, yet I have twisting, nervous anxiety running through my system.

> Frustrating and hard to deal with to say the least.

>

> LIBIDO:

> My libido has never been so low in my life - it as if it is

non-existent.

>

> BRAIN FOG:

> When I eat sugars or alcohol, I get the dreaded brain fog that

Candida and

> Fibromyalgia sufferers experience. This leads me to think that I have

> Candida at a bare minimum.

>

> DARK CIRCLES UNDER EYES:

> These vary in intensity, but are always there to the point that

people often

> comment with things like " wow, you look tired! " or " wow, you look

terrible!

> Get some sleep! " etc etc etc. and it is not only very frustrating,

but also

> very embarrassing and self-esteem sapping.

>

> WHEAT SENSITIVITY:

> When I eat wheat (like the amount in an order of tempura shrimp), I get

> upper extremity muscle pain, and very uncomfortable anxiety that almost

> seems to come from a nervous system level. Hard to explain but it as if

> someone is sticking a fork in my whole nervous system and just twisting.

> Very uncomfortable, and usually is accompanied by stomach upset/nausea.

>

> ALLERGIES / CHEMICAL SENSITIVITIES:

> I am sensitive to many fragrances, detergents, etc so avoid all

those, but

> also have problems with dust mites, diesel smoke, etc. If I eat food

that

> was wrapped in certain types of Saran (PVC) wrap, I break out in

hives. This

> was recently discovered to be a sensitivity to phthalates which are

> chemicals put into some plastics to soften them. See

> http://www.calisafe.org/_disc1/00000066.htm and

> http://www.jobwerx.com/news/Archives/plastics_biz-id=947140_529.html for

> more info on phthalates.

>

> _jason_

> _________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

May 27, 2005

Hi ,

I've read that a large percentage of people who tested postive for Lyme don't

remember being bitten by a tick. They may have been bitten by a " nymph " , a baby

tick so small that it's easily overlooked. Another thing to consider is that

Lyme Disease may be spread via semen and breast milk. In my research on the

net, I've read of research studies that found evidence of the bacteria in these

fluids. On the email groups I've joined, many people have reported that their

entire family tested postive, even babies.

Thanks for the link to Dr. Randy's site. I will keep it for reference.

Two of the most interesting sites I've come across involves a group of folks

with Lyme who are using an alternative therapy using Salt and Vitamin C to kill

the Lyme and other parasites. If you peruse the email archives of the

Lymestragies group, you'll find reports from folks who actually had parasites

crawl out of their skin after they were on the Salt/C protocol for a while!

Yuck!!

www.lymephotos.com

lymestrategies

Eureka, CA

Re: My symptoms - please help!

On 5/25/05 5:49 PM, " S. Moskaly " <susan_moskaly@...>

wrote:

> Dear ,

>

> You might want to find a doctor who can diagnose Lyme Disease. I, too, have

> been ill for many years and have many of the same symptoms you have. I

don't

> know yet whether or not I have Lyme Disease but am starting to take steps to

> find out (like trying a new doctor, out-of-state, next month).

>

Hi ,

A LOT of people have suggested this as an explanation. Is it possible to

contract the disease without getting a tick bite? I don't really remember

getting bit, but it has been so many years that my memory may be failing me.

I am seeing a highly acclaimed Osteopath next Wed., and am hopeful about

that. But if that fails me, there is a very experienced Lyme Dr. here in

Santa Cruz. Here's his website: http://drrandy.org/

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

May 27, 2005

the primal diet email address just cameback to me and said

undeliverable...it says only folks who practice raw food eating already area

allowed.

Nuf said about that.

My question is, how on earth can you manage to get raw meat and raw eggs

down? I love vegetables and those kind of raw foods, but the eggs and meat

seems unfathomable for me to consume.

Was it REAL, REAL HARD for you at first?????

~Inga

on 5/26/05 11:42 PM, koyd24 at c_dyok@... wrote:

........After 2 days of eating raw vegetable juices and lots of fatty raw

hamburger I got strong enough to call my parents and tell them I was

moving back to the farm and was going to give this one last shot. If

this didn't work for me, I would go on bipolar medication which they

wanted me to do for many years. I told my Dad we needed to buy a

Jersey milk cow for me and we did. She calved 1 week later and I

began consuming massive amounts of raw dairy blended with raw eggs,

some fruit and occasionally some raw hamburger. I got stronger as

the months went by untill spring of 2004 during easter weekend, I

flew to California and had a personal consultation with this man,

this raw meat eater named Aajonus Vonderplanitz

continued..

May 27, 2005

YES IT IS. That is why I suggsted yo start at the Natural Thyroid Hormones

site. Did they do a saliva cortisol test that measured your levels at 4

different times of the sy? Di they run a FREE T# abd FREE T4 for

yourthyroid function? Unless you had these tests done, then you got test

results that mean nothing.

~Inga

on 5/26/05 4:02 PM, ..: )::.. at ombass@... wrote:

I should have added in my original mail

that I recently had my adrenal and thyroid checked out @ the

endocrinologist, and apparently all is well. I am not sure if this is

another one of those things where Western medicine Drs are clueless and

their tests are not accurate (like with Lyme, etc.).

May 28, 2005

Inga,

Nuf said about what? Go onto the live food egroup, start eating raw

food then send the primaldiet an email saying you are on the live

food group and want to get serious about the primaldiet.

No, is was not real hard for me at first because I hadn't ate in 24

days and had only consumed a little carrot juice with water, a mango

and then sometime later absolutely scurfed down a plate of raw beef.

There are 2 aspects one must address when the thought of consuming

raw animal foods seems repulsive:

1.Physiological:

- The bacteria in your digestive tract are wrong, simple as that.

Consuming whole raw vegetables, starches and many fruits over

alkalinizes the intestines. This means that the bacteria responsible

for digesting the acid, animal foods like meat, eggs and butter or

coconut cream are not present. Other yeast and molds proliferate the

tract. Once the digestive tract becomes acid the natural taste for

these foods becomes very strong. I eat minimum, 2 pounds of meat

daily and sometimes the taste is so appealing I am panting like a

dog and literally swalling chunks of meat which is the best way to

eat meat. Other times I have to chew the meat a little more and dip

in a little minute amount of hot sauce to get the juices going. I

use " Endorphin Rush " hot sauce because it has no salt.

- Another reason for being repulsed by meat is because your body may

need some healthy raw fat in it first to help saturate the lymph and

organs, mopping up many volatile compounds. The meat consumed

without the fat built up would release too many toxins into the

blood and the body cannot afford to do that, it burns many other

cells. Usually lots of raw cows cream or coconut cream blended with

a little fruit and perhaps 1-2 eggs for a few weeks will soothe the

body enough to the point where it can handle the detox. capability

from complete proteins only found in raw meat. Also consuming fresh,

raw vegetable juices like cucumber, celery and parsely will also

neutrilize some of these compounds and allow the body to develop a

taste for meat. Going %100 raw cold turkey is actually the easiest.

2. Psychological:

The mere thought of consuming raw animal foods can be enough to

stimulate cortisol or even adrenaline from the worry and turn the

stomach into vomiting at worst. Some people may even convince

themselves of bacterial contamination from such foods and not eat

them. I have said it before and I will say it again, with the

introduction of the 1000 hz food zappicator there is no longer any

logical REASON OR EXCUSE for humans to cook there animal food.

Cooked animal foods are toxic and contribute to high uric acid

levels and over all acid ph load, raw meat does not. I am actually

astonished Hulda has not adopted this diet for her clients in

her clinic. I zappicate every single molecule of food I eat and

notice the greatest change in the taste of fruits. I consume

cucumber juice, lemons and sometimes tomatoes and notice a fresher

taste. Animal foods digest beautifully when zappicated for me. So

far I have noticed no ill effects from zappicating. I suspect

Vonderplanitz would be against zappication but time will tell

whether I do it long term or need more bacteria in my food to

detoxify metals which bacteria do.

Take care,

Corey

>

> .......After 2 days of eating raw vegetable juices and lots of

fatty raw

> hamburger I got strong enough to call my parents and tell them I

was

> moving back to the farm and was going to give this one last shot.

If

> this didn't work for me, I would go on bipolar medication which

they

> wanted me to do for many years. I told my Dad we needed to buy a

> Jersey milk cow for me and we did. She calved 1 week later and I

> began consuming massive amounts of raw dairy blended with raw eggs,

> some fruit and occasionally some raw hamburger. I got stronger as

> the months went by untill spring of 2004 during easter weekend, I

> flew to California and had a personal consultation with this man,

> this raw meat eater named Aajonus Vonderplanitz

>

> continued..

>

May 29, 2005

I'm not an expert ..but I understand that if you drink flouridated water.,..It

can affect the thyroid tests. inaccurate...

Plus it keeps iodine from being absorbed..therefore the thyroid problem.

Brushing your teeth with flouridated toothpaste keeps you from absorbing iodine

for 12 hours.

Most people have a thyroid problem and don't know it.

Taking your temp first thing in the morning for 10 minutes before

elliminating will give you the base

temperature.

If it isn't close to 98.6 ..you have a hypo or hyper thyroid conditon.

I believe doctor's have more intricate tests to find out but don't always use

it.

I say we should be more involved in getting flouride out of our water &

toothpaste.

not to mention chlorine..mercury..lead...benzene....propyl alcohol... & on & on.

Lina

YES IT IS. That is why I suggsted yo start at the Natural Thyroid Hormones

site. Did they do a saliva cortisol test that measured your levels at 4

different times of the sy? Di they run a FREE T# abd FREE T4 for

yourthyroid function? Unless you had these tests done, then you got test

results that mean nothing.

~Inga

on 5/26/05 4:02 PM, ..: )::.. at ombass@... wrote:

I should have added in my original mail

that I recently had my adrenal and thyroid checked out @ the

endocrinologist, and apparently all is well. I am not sure if this is

another one of those things where Western medicine Drs are clueless and

their tests are not accurate (like with Lyme, etc.).

May 29, 2005

Sounds like a quantum world...What is the truth?. I had breast cancer and am

avoiding all those things that have hormones.antibiotics. and apiols.Although I

have Olive oil.

This sounds like its so against what i have learned. Perhaps it would work it

the meat was perfect. But i just don't see it. not in my world.

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