Re: My symptoms - please help!

[Guest guest]

Everything you described is me but I also have ringing in my ears with a

dryness and loosing the hearing

Lynda

...: )::.. wrote:

>Greetings...

>I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to figure out what exactly is

>going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years I have bobbed around

>from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all of which ended up being

>incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to figure things out.

>

>The closest thing I can come to is either Fibromyalgia / Chronic Fatigue, or

>Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems like I may have a lot of

>different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY BODY JUST WONT

>**HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Aren't you the same young guy I've seen on the ozone therapies list (or maybe it

was the oxyplus list) and the colloidal silver list? Same kind of litany of

symptoms? Are you trying to get help, or trying to gather information about

those lists?

Jan Bolen

" ..: )::.. " <ombass@...> wrote:

Greetings...

I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to figure out what exactly is

going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years I have bobbed around

from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all of which ended up being

incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to figure things out.

The closest thing I can come to is either Fibromyalgia / Chronic Fatigue, or

Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems like I may have a lot of

different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY BODY JUST WONT

**HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

Can anyone please help to cut through the fog of confusion and suffering? I

am only 30 years old, and have been suffering for too long!! I am SO TIRED

of Drs not knowing what to tell me, cramming a million pills in my face, and

taking all my money and in return getting nothing besides frustration and

side effects.

Overall it seems as if my immune system is essentially just not functioning.

My body should have healed by now. I am only 30. It feels like something

SYSTEMIC is sapping my energy and hampering my immune system... BUT WHAT IS

IT!?!?!?!?!?

Here's what is going on with me:

MUSCLE PAIN / WEAKNESS:

My muscles hurt when I use them, specifically my shoulders, neck and arms.

And I am talking about light use - like reading some magazines or driving

for 30 min. I was in some fairly severe rear-ending car accidents in my

earlier years, so theoretically this could be causing some of my muscle

pain/weakness all these years later? Myofascial Pain Syndrome?

Fibromyalgia?

ENERGY:

My energy levels are also at an all time low - it is as if my " chi " or life

force is just COMPLETELY DRAINED. Hard to describe, but my " life energy "

feels like it is not even there at all. No excitement, no happiness, no

creative drive, no ANYTHING. I feel like a walking husk, like everything has

just gone flat line. Is this what Chronic Fatigue feels like?

ANXIETY:

I have a LOT of anxiety that appears to come from a biochemical / biological

level. In other words, I don't get all worked up about something and thus

experience anxiety. Quite the opposite: it's a nice day, I am in a good

mood, yet I have twisting, nervous anxiety running through my system.

Frustrating and hard to deal with to say the least.

LIBIDO:

My libido has never been so low in my life - it as if it is non-existent.

BRAIN FOG:

When I eat sugars or alcohol, I get the dreaded brain fog that Candida and

Fibromyalgia sufferers experience. This leads me to think that I have

Candida at a bare minimum.

DARK CIRCLES UNDER EYES:

These vary in intensity, but are always there to the point that people often

comment with things like " wow, you look tired! " or " wow, you look terrible!

Get some sleep! " etc etc etc. and it is not only very frustrating, but also

very embarrassing and self-esteem sapping.

WHEAT SENSITIVITY:

When I eat wheat (like the amount in an order of tempura shrimp), I get

upper extremity muscle pain, and very uncomfortable anxiety that almost

seems to come from a nervous system level. Hard to explain but it as if

someone is sticking a fork in my whole nervous system and just twisting.

Very uncomfortable, and usually is accompanied by stomach upset/nausea.

ALLERGIES / CHEMICAL SENSITIVITIES:

I am sensitive to many fragrances, detergents, etc so avoid all those, but

also have problems with dust mites, diesel smoke, etc. If I eat food that

was wrapped in certain types of Saran (PVC) wrap, I break out in hives. This

was recently discovered to be a sensitivity to phthalates which are

chemicals put into some plastics to soften them. See

http://www.calisafe.org/_disc1/00000066.htm and

http://www.jobwerx.com/news/Archives/plastics_biz-id=947140_529.html for

more info on phthalates.

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

this sounds like me!

read www.lymephotos.com try thevitc and salt it

realy

goes after a lot of gut bugs, do liver g/b flushes

and coffee enemas.

read up on colloidal silver, and cats claw toa free

by arg.

join lymestrategies

lyme-and-rife

read www.sensiblehealth.com

www.curezone.comthis can answer a lot of your

questions. good luck

roger

--- " ..: )::.. " <ombass@...> wrote:

> Greetings...

> I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to

> figure out what exactly is

> going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years

> I have bobbed around

> from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all

> of which ended up being

> incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to

> figure things out.

>

> The closest thing I can come to is either

> Fibromyalgia / Chronic Fatigue, or

> Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems

> like I may have a lot of

> different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND

> WHY MY BODY JUST WONT

> **HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

>

> Can anyone please help to cut through the fog of

> confusion and suffering? I

> am only 30 years old, and have been suffering for

> too long!! I am SO TIRED

> of Drs not knowing what to tell me, cramming a

> million pills in my face, and

> taking all my money and in return getting nothing

> besides frustration and

> side effects.

>

> Overall it seems as if my immune system is

> essentially just not functioning.

> My body should have healed by now. I am only 30. It

> feels like something

> SYSTEMIC is sapping my energy and hampering my

> immune system... BUT WHAT IS

> IT!?!?!?!?!?

>

> Here's what is going on with me:

>

> MUSCLE PAIN / WEAKNESS:

> My muscles hurt when I use them, specifically my

> shoulders, neck and arms.

> And I am talking about light use - like reading some

> magazines or driving

> for 30 min. I was in some fairly severe rear-ending

> car accidents in my

> earlier years, so theoretically this could be

> causing some of my muscle

> pain/weakness all these years later? Myofascial

> Pain Syndrome?

> Fibromyalgia?

>

> ENERGY:

> My energy levels are also at an all time low - it is

> as if my " chi " or life

> force is just COMPLETELY DRAINED. Hard to describe,

> but my " life energy "

> feels like it is not even there at all. No

> excitement, no happiness, no

> creative drive, no ANYTHING. I feel like a walking

> husk, like everything has

> just gone flat line. Is this what Chronic Fatigue

> feels like?

>

> ANXIETY:

> I have a LOT of anxiety that appears to come from a

> biochemical / biological

> level. In other words, I don't get all worked up

> about something and thus

> experience anxiety. Quite the opposite: it's a nice

> day, I am in a good

> mood, yet I have twisting, nervous anxiety running

> through my system.

> Frustrating and hard to deal with to say the least.

>

> LIBIDO:

> My libido has never been so low in my life - it as

> if it is non-existent.

>

> BRAIN FOG:

> When I eat sugars or alcohol, I get the dreaded

> brain fog that Candida and

> Fibromyalgia sufferers experience. This leads me to

> think that I have

> Candida at a bare minimum.

>

> DARK CIRCLES UNDER EYES:

> These vary in intensity, but are always there to the

> point that people often

> comment with things like " wow, you look tired! " or

> " wow, you look terrible!

> Get some sleep! " etc etc etc. and it is not only

> very frustrating, but also

> very embarrassing and self-esteem sapping.

>

> WHEAT SENSITIVITY:

> When I eat wheat (like the amount in an order of

> tempura shrimp), I get

> upper extremity muscle pain, and very uncomfortable

> anxiety that almost

> seems to come from a nervous system level. Hard to

> explain but it as if

> someone is sticking a fork in my whole nervous

> system and just twisting.

> Very uncomfortable, and usually is accompanied by

> stomach upset/nausea.

>

> ALLERGIES / CHEMICAL SENSITIVITIES:

> I am sensitive to many fragrances, detergents, etc

> so avoid all those, but

> also have problems with dust mites, diesel smoke,

> etc. If I eat food that

> was wrapped in certain types of Saran (PVC) wrap, I

> break out in hives. This

> was recently discovered to be a sensitivity to

> phthalates which are

> chemicals put into some plastics to soften them. See

> http://www.calisafe.org/_disc1/00000066.htm and

>

http://www.jobwerx.com/news/Archives/plastics_biz-id=947140_529.html

> for

> more info on phthalates.

>

>

> _jason_

> _________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _

> _

>

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

So ,

What are you doing to help your body heal? Have you done major diet

changes, do you take supplements, have you done any cleansing? The body

is totally amazing and can do many things but not if we don't help it. I

was sick for years, sounded a bit like you. The thing it took me years

to finally figure out is that I was not helping myself get well by the

diet I was eating and I had toxins backing up in my intestines due to

poor bowel function. When I got serious about cleaning bowels, and

started to support every system of my body then it was amazing to see

how good I started to feel. My mysterious diagnosis turned out to be

lyme disease, at least that is what Iam convinced of. Thought is was MS

for quite a long time, they get those 2 mixed up. YOu definately need to

balance your immune system and eliminate the candida. Those 2 things

alone can have a huge impact. There are just too many diseases for your

doctors to figure things out these days, you are not alone. My husband

suffered for years and almost died from drugs and that is when we

decided that it was our bodies and we needed to do someething about it.

We both had late stage lyme, very hard to DX. So I don't know what you

may already be doing to support your body, but if you want ideas just

let me know.

...: )::.. wrote:

> Greetings...

> I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to figure out what exactly is

> going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years I have bobbed around

> from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all of which ended up being

> incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to figure things out.

>

> The closest thing I can come to is either Fibromyalgia / Chronic Fatigue, or

> Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems like I may have a lot of

> different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY BODY JUST WONT

> **HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

>

> Can anyone please help to cut through the fog of confusion and suffering? I

> am only 30 years old, and have been suffering for too long!! I am SO TIRED

> of Drs not knowing what to tell me, cramming a million pills in my face, and

> taking all my money and in return getting nothing besides frustration and

> side effects.

>

> Overall it seems as if my immune system is essentially just not functioning.

> My body should have healed by now. I am only 30. It feels like something

> SYSTEMIC is sapping my energy and hampering my immune system... BUT WHAT IS

> IT!?!?!?!?!?

>

> Here's what is going on with me:

>

> MUSCLE PAIN / WEAKNESS:

> My muscles hurt when I use them, specifically my shoulders, neck and arms.

> And I am talking about light use - like reading some magazines or driving

> for 30 min. I was in some fairly severe rear-ending car accidents in my

> earlier years, so theoretically this could be causing some of my muscle

> pain/weakness all these years later? Myofascial Pain Syndrome?

> Fibromyalgia?

>

> ENERGY:

> My energy levels are also at an all time low - it is as if my " chi " or life

> force is just COMPLETELY DRAINED. Hard to describe, but my " life energy "

> feels like it is not even there at all. No excitement, no happiness, no

> creative drive, no ANYTHING. I feel like a walking husk, like everything has

> just gone flat line. Is this what Chronic Fatigue feels like?

>

> ANXIETY:

> I have a LOT of anxiety that appears to come from a biochemical / biological

> level. In other words, I don't get all worked up about something and thus

> experience anxiety. Quite the opposite: it's a nice day, I am in a good

> mood, yet I have twisting, nervous anxiety running through my system.

> Frustrating and hard to deal with to say the least.

>

> LIBIDO:

> My libido has never been so low in my life - it as if it is non-existent.

>

> BRAIN FOG:

> When I eat sugars or alcohol, I get the dreaded brain fog that Candida and

> Fibromyalgia sufferers experience. This leads me to think that I have

> Candida at a bare minimum.

>

> DARK CIRCLES UNDER EYES:

> These vary in intensity, but are always there to the point that people often

> comment with things like " wow, you look tired! " or " wow, you look terrible!

> Get some sleep! " etc etc etc. and it is not only very frustrating, but also

> very embarrassing and self-esteem sapping.

>

> WHEAT SENSITIVITY:

> When I eat wheat (like the amount in an order of tempura shrimp), I get

> upper extremity muscle pain, and very uncomfortable anxiety that almost

> seems to come from a nervous system level. Hard to explain but it as if

> someone is sticking a fork in my whole nervous system and just twisting.

> Very uncomfortable, and usually is accompanied by stomach upset/nausea.

>

> ALLERGIES / CHEMICAL SENSITIVITIES:

> I am sensitive to many fragrances, detergents, etc so avoid all those, but

> also have problems with dust mites, diesel smoke, etc. If I eat food that

> was wrapped in certain types of Saran (PVC) wrap, I break out in hives. This

> was recently discovered to be a sensitivity to phthalates which are

> chemicals put into some plastics to soften them. See

> http://www.calisafe.org/_disc1/00000066.htm and

> http://www.jobwerx.com/news/Archives/plastics_biz-id=947140_529.html for

> more info on phthalates.

>

>

> _jason_

> _________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

On 5/25/05 12:53 PM, " Jan Bolen " <jurimed@...> wrote:

> Dear ,

>

> Aren't you the same young guy I've seen on the ozone therapies list (or maybe

> it was the oxyplus list) and the colloidal silver list? Same kind of litany of

> symptoms? Are you trying to get help, or trying to gather information about

> those lists?

>

> Jan Bolen

I am the same one from the Silver list. I am on several forums trying to get

some answers. And I am not gathering info - just someone who is trying to

get some answers to my ongoing health crisis! :-/

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

You may want to chew a few cloves of fresh garlic a day. Again it has worked

in this household. It takes a little getting use to, but has worked. We been

chewing the fresh clove of garlic every 4 to 6 hours to start out with. Now

down to one or two cloves a day.

RJ

Re: My symptoms - please help!

>

> Everything you described is me but I also have ringing in my ears with a

> dryness and loosing the hearing

> Lynda

>

> ..: )::.. wrote:

>

> >Greetings...

> >I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to figure out what exactly is

> >going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years I have bobbed around

> >from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all of which ended up

being

> >incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to figure things out.

> >

> >The closest thing I can come to is either Fibromyalgia / Chronic Fatigue,

or

> >Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems like I may have a lot

of

> >different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY BODY JUST WONT

> >**HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Sounds like mercury poisoning. Many people have recovered using chelation

therapy. I am treating my son who has some of the exact same symptoms

which were caused by childhood vaccines. We have had great success with

zapping, cleanses as well as changing the water we drink and using a

Far-infared sauna with chelation. Immune system boosters may help as well.

We use Transfer Factor. Changing your environment helps as well. Getting

rid of any household toxins as well as trying to avoid them in the

environment. Where you work as well as where you live could also be making

you sick. Another thing, have you tried Chiropractic care? It has also

helped our family tremendously.

Take Care,

Amy

_____

From: Dr [mailto:Dr ] On Behalf Of

...: )::..

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:07 PM

Dr ; candidiasis ;

bowel cleanse ; Colon_Hydrotherapy ;

silver-list@...; fibromyalgiacured

Subject: My symptoms - please help!

Greetings...

I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to figure out what exactly is

going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years I have bobbed around

from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all of which ended up being

incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to figure things out.

The closest thing I can come to is either Fibromyalgia / Chronic Fatigue, or

Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems like I may have a lot of

different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY BODY JUST WONT

**HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

Can anyone please help to cut through the fog of confusion and suffering? I

am only 30 years old, and have been suffering for too long!! I am SO TIRED

of Drs not knowing what to tell me, cramming a million pills in my face, and

taking all my money and in return getting nothing besides frustration and

side effects.

Overall it seems as if my immune system is essentially just not functioning.

My body should have healed by now. I am only 30. It feels like something

SYSTEMIC is sapping my energy and hampering my immune system... BUT WHAT IS

IT!?!?!?!?!?

Here's what is going on with me:

MUSCLE PAIN / WEAKNESS:

My muscles hurt when I use them, specifically my shoulders, neck and arms.

And I am talking about light use - like reading some magazines or driving

for 30 min. I was in some fairly severe rear-ending car accidents in my

earlier years, so theoretically this could be causing some of my muscle

pain/weakness all these years later? Myofascial Pain Syndrome?

Fibromyalgia?

ENERGY:

My energy levels are also at an all time low - it is as if my " chi " or life

force is just COMPLETELY DRAINED. Hard to describe, but my " life energy "

feels like it is not even there at all. No excitement, no happiness, no

creative drive, no ANYTHING. I feel like a walking husk, like everything has

just gone flat line. Is this what Chronic Fatigue feels like?

ANXIETY:

I have a LOT of anxiety that appears to come from a biochemical / biological

level. In other words, I don't get all worked up about something and thus

experience anxiety. Quite the opposite: it's a nice day, I am in a good

mood, yet I have twisting, nervous anxiety running through my system.

Frustrating and hard to deal with to say the least.

LIBIDO:

My libido has never been so low in my life - it as if it is non-existent.

BRAIN FOG:

When I eat sugars or alcohol, I get the dreaded brain fog that Candida and

Fibromyalgia sufferers experience. This leads me to think that I have

Candida at a bare minimum.

DARK CIRCLES UNDER EYES:

These vary in intensity, but are always there to the point that people often

comment with things like " wow, you look tired! " or " wow, you look terrible!

Get some sleep! " etc etc etc. and it is not only very frustrating, but also

very embarrassing and self-esteem sapping.

WHEAT SENSITIVITY:

When I eat wheat (like the amount in an order of tempura shrimp), I get

upper extremity muscle pain, and very uncomfortable anxiety that almost

seems to come from a nervous system level. Hard to explain but it as if

someone is sticking a fork in my whole nervous system and just twisting.

Very uncomfortable, and usually is accompanied by stomach upset/nausea.

ALLERGIES / CHEMICAL SENSITIVITIES:

I am sensitive to many fragrances, detergents, etc so avoid all those, but

also have problems with dust mites, diesel smoke, etc. If I eat food that

was wrapped in certain types of Saran (PVC) wrap, I break out in hives. This

was recently discovered to be a sensitivity to phthalates which are

chemicals put into some plastics to soften them. See

http://www.calisafe.org/_disc1/00000066.htm and

http://www.jobwerx.com/news/Archives/plastics_biz-id=947140_529.html for

more info on phthalates.

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

You might want to find a doctor who can diagnose Lyme Disease. I, too, have

been ill for many years and have many of the same symptoms you have. I don't

know yet whether or not I have Lyme Disease but am starting to take steps to

find out (like trying a new doctor, out-of-state, next month).

For the last month I have been reading about Lyme Disease on the internet and

have joined a couple email groups on Lyme. You might want to check this

out. I have learned that in recent years many doctors believe Lyme Disease is

behind many chronic illnesses.

My symptoms - please help!

Greetings...

I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to figure out what exactly is

going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years I have bobbed around

from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all of which ended up being

incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to figure things out.

The closest thing I can come to is either Fibromyalgia / Chronic Fatigue, or

Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems like I may have a lot of

different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY BODY JUST WONT

**HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

Can anyone please help to cut through the fog of confusion and suffering? I

am only 30 years old, and have been suffering for too long!! I am SO TIRED

of Drs not knowing what to tell me, cramming a million pills in my face, and

taking all my money and in return getting nothing besides frustration and

side effects.

Overall it seems as if my immune system is essentially just not functioning.

My body should have healed by now. I am only 30. It feels like something

SYSTEMIC is sapping my energy and hampering my immune system... BUT WHAT IS

IT!?!?!?!?!?

Here's what is going on with me:

MUSCLE PAIN / WEAKNESS:

My muscles hurt when I use them, specifically my shoulders, neck and arms.

And I am talking about light use - like reading some magazines or driving

for 30 min. I was in some fairly severe rear-ending car accidents in my

earlier years, so theoretically this could be causing some of my muscle

pain/weakness all these years later? Myofascial Pain Syndrome?

Fibromyalgia?

ENERGY:

My energy levels are also at an all time low - it is as if my " chi " or life

force is just COMPLETELY DRAINED. Hard to describe, but my " life energy "

feels like it is not even there at all. No excitement, no happiness, no

creative drive, no ANYTHING. I feel like a walking husk, like everything has

just gone flat line. Is this what Chronic Fatigue feels like?

ANXIETY:

I have a LOT of anxiety that appears to come from a biochemical / biological

level. In other words, I don't get all worked up about something and thus

experience anxiety. Quite the opposite: it's a nice day, I am in a good

mood, yet I have twisting, nervous anxiety running through my system.

Frustrating and hard to deal with to say the least.

LIBIDO:

My libido has never been so low in my life - it as if it is non-existent.

BRAIN FOG:

When I eat sugars or alcohol, I get the dreaded brain fog that Candida and

Fibromyalgia sufferers experience. This leads me to think that I have

Candida at a bare minimum.

DARK CIRCLES UNDER EYES:

These vary in intensity, but are always there to the point that people often

comment with things like " wow, you look tired! " or " wow, you look terrible!

Get some sleep! " etc etc etc. and it is not only very frustrating, but also

very embarrassing and self-esteem sapping.

WHEAT SENSITIVITY:

When I eat wheat (like the amount in an order of tempura shrimp), I get

upper extremity muscle pain, and very uncomfortable anxiety that almost

seems to come from a nervous system level. Hard to explain but it as if

someone is sticking a fork in my whole nervous system and just twisting.

Very uncomfortable, and usually is accompanied by stomach upset/nausea.

ALLERGIES / CHEMICAL SENSITIVITIES:

I am sensitive to many fragrances, detergents, etc so avoid all those, but

also have problems with dust mites, diesel smoke, etc. If I eat food that

was wrapped in certain types of Saran (PVC) wrap, I break out in hives. This

was recently discovered to be a sensitivity to phthalates which are

chemicals put into some plastics to soften them. See

http://www.calisafe.org/_disc1/00000066.htm and

http://www.jobwerx.com/news/Archives/plastics_biz-id=947140_529.html for

more info on phthalates.

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

Lyn,

You're in the right place. The more you learn, the more clear your situation

becomes.

Good luck

Lynda <lcblack@...> wrote:

Everything you described is me but I also have ringing in my ears with a

dryness and loosing the hearing

Lynda

...: )::.. wrote:

>Greetings...

>I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to figure out what exactly is

>going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years I have bobbed around

>from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all of which ended up being

>incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to figure things out.

>

>The closest thing I can come to is either Fibromyalgia / Chronic Fatigue, or

>Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems like I may have a lot of

>different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY BODY JUST WONT

>**HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with Amy about the probability of Mercury toxicity, and would like

to add that it may be also low thyroid as well. These two things often go

hand in hand as mercury has an affinity for trashng the thyroid gland as wll

as stressing out the adrenals, and then when the thyroid is not functoning

well, then all the body systems slow down and you further don't metabolize

and detox mercury and heavy metals and whatever else.

Mercruy will make you feel flat. Low hormone levels can also make you feel

totally flat about life, and stressed adrenals (wich tend to accompany

mercury toxicity AND hytpothyroidism) will wipe out your sex drive.

(Taking cortisone for adrenals helped a lot with my food allergies and

lifted my brain fog. For some, it is the thyroid hormone that lifts the

brain fog.)

My flat out guess is that you suffer from all three: mercury toxicity, low

thyroid and hypoadrenalism. not being a doctor here (heaven forbid the white

coated serial killers, LOl) but it does sound a lot like those things to me.

They will totally screw your body systems up and most doctors have no clue

about PROPERLY diagnosing and treating hypothyroidism, (you may have been

tested and they say you are fine whe you are dcidedly NOT) no clue about

mercury toxicity in the first place, and most will not even run tests for

the adrenals.

For mercury check out:

www.noamalgam.com.

also: frequent-dose-chelation

for thyroid go to : naturalthyroidhormones

With the thyroid forum, you will need to weed out lots of chatter, but it is

likely THE best source of info in this where you won't get a bunch of

MISinformaton....check out their files section for starters.

I sincerely hope you decide to check out all those sites, as I have a

sneaking suspicion you will get to the root of your problems through those

avenues.

Yup....sounds like mercury to me! Still got you amalgams in????

~Inga

PS - Are you sure you are not reacting to the shrimp too? Shrimp can be

loaded with mercury - I have had some awful attacks form eating some shrimp

- no breading.

------------------------------

------------------------------

Greetings...

I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to figure out what exactly is

going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years I have bobbed around

from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all of which ended up being

incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to figure things out.

The closest thing I can come to is either Fibromyalgia / Chronic Fatigue, or

Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems like I may have a lot of

different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY BODY JUST WONT

**HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

Can anyone please help to cut through the fog of confusion and suffering? I

am only 30 years old, and have been suffering for too long!! I am SO TIRED

of Drs not knowing what to tell me, cramming a million pills in my face, and

taking all my money and in return getting nothing besides frustration and

side effects.

Overall it seems as if my immune system is essentially just not functioning.

My body should have healed by now. I am only 30. It feels like something

SYSTEMIC is sapping my energy and hampering my immune system... BUT WHAT IS

IT!?!?!?!?!?

Here's what is going on with me:

MUSCLE PAIN / WEAKNESS:

My muscles hurt when I use them, specifically my shoulders, neck and arms.

And I am talking about light use - like reading some magazines or driving

for 30 min. I was in some fairly severe rear-ending car accidents in my

earlier years, so theoretically this could be causing some of my muscle

pain/weakness all these years later? Myofascial Pain Syndrome?

Fibromyalgia?

ENERGY:

My energy levels are also at an all time low - it is as if my " chi " or life

force is just COMPLETELY DRAINED. Hard to describe, but my " life energy "

feels like it is not even there at all. No excitement, no happiness, no

creative drive, no ANYTHING. I feel like a walking husk, like everything has

just gone flat line. Is this what Chronic Fatigue feels like?

ANXIETY:

I have a LOT of anxiety that appears to come from a biochemical / biological

level. In other words, I don't get all worked up about something and thus

experience anxiety. Quite the opposite: it's a nice day, I am in a good

mood, yet I have twisting, nervous anxiety running through my system.

Frustrating and hard to deal with to say the least.

LIBIDO:

My libido has never been so low in my life - it as if it is non-existent.

BRAIN FOG:

When I eat sugars or alcohol, I get the dreaded brain fog that Candida and

Fibromyalgia sufferers experience. This leads me to think that I have

Candida at a bare minimum.

DARK CIRCLES UNDER EYES:

These vary in intensity, but are always there to the point that people often

comment with things like " wow, you look tired! " or " wow, you look terrible!

Get some sleep! " etc etc etc. and it is not only very frustrating, but also

very embarrassing and self-esteem sapping.

WHEAT SENSITIVITY:

When I eat wheat (like the amount in an order of tempura shrimp), I get

upper extremity muscle pain, and very uncomfortable anxiety that almost

seems to come from a nervous system level. Hard to explain but it as if

someone is sticking a fork in my whole nervous system and just twisting.

Very uncomfortable, and usually is accompanied by stomach upset/nausea.

ALLERGIES / CHEMICAL SENSITIVITIES:

I am sensitive to many fragrances, detergents, etc so avoid all those, but

also have problems with dust mites, diesel smoke, etc. If I eat food that

was wrapped in certain types of Saran (PVC) wrap, I break out in hives. This

was recently discovered to be a sensitivity to phthalates which are

chemicals put into some plastics to soften them. See

http://www.calisafe.org/_disc1/00000066.htm and

http://www.jobwerx.com/news/Archives/plastics_biz-id=947140_529.html for

more info on phthalates.

_jason_

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[Guest guest]

Well... I hope you get the help you need from this list. There are a lot of

intelligent, knowledgeable people on it.

Jan Bolen

" ..: )::.. " <ombass@...> wrote:

On 5/25/05 12:53 PM, " Jan Bolen " <jurimed@...> wrote:

> Dear ,

>

> Aren't you the same young guy I've seen on the ozone therapies list (or maybe

> it was the oxyplus list) and the colloidal silver list? Same kind of litany of

> symptoms? Are you trying to get help, or trying to gather information about

> those lists?

>

> Jan Bolen

I am the same one from the Silver list. I am on several forums trying to get

some answers. And I am not gathering info - just someone who is trying to

get some answers to my ongoing health crisis! :-/

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

,

We can all guess at what is wrong with you until we are blue in the

face, but what you need is find a great holistic clinic or doctor who is

willing to help you. As educated and knowledgeable as many are on this

forum, they can't diagnose your issues properly or correctly, because

most of us will differ in our opinions as to what the problem is.

Dr. Jordan Rubin, the founder of Garden for Life products had many of

your maladies and was almost dead by the time he was helped. Please

read his books or do a google search for him to read his story and

possibly make an appointment to see him.

Dr. Mercola is quite popular with many and does take patients from all

over the country. It is worth going to see him or calling him to get a

recommendation for a doctor in your area who is trained in alternative

medicine.

Dr. Saul has a site called www.doctoryourself.com. Contact him

if you are willing.

Dr. has a place called the Tahoma Clinc. Check the web

for info.

There are many great doctors and healers who have web sites and

contacts. You need to find someone who can take a full history and run

the needed tests to determine your illnesses and state of health, and

monitor your progress.

There is also a lab that can check your blood for many things, and they

have local contacts who draw and send the blood to the lab, and you

determine which tests you want performed and pay the individual prices.

Here is one such site from Life Extension

http://www.lef.org/newshop/cgi-shop/showCategory.cgi?catid=23000 and

there are others out there.

I know you are frustrated and need help, and I'm sure everyone wants to

be able to help you, but you need consistency and diagnostics first and

foremost in your efforts to restore your health.

Good luck,

Diane

...: )::.. wrote:

>On 5/25/05 12:53 PM, " Jan Bolen " <jurimed@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>>Dear ,

>>

>>Aren't you the same young guy I've seen on the ozone therapies list (or maybe

>>it was the oxyplus list) and the colloidal silver list? Same kind of litany of

>>symptoms? Are you trying to get help, or trying to gather information about

>>those lists?

>>

>>Jan Bolen

>>

>>

>

>I am the same one from the Silver list. I am on several forums trying to get

>some answers. And I am not gathering info - just someone who is trying to

>get some answers to my ongoing health crisis! :-/

>

>_jason_

>_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

--

God Bless America!

Diane Mackey

Lowell, MA

Captain , USAFA 2000

Laughlin AFB, T1 Instructor

[Guest guest]

These are also symptoms of candidiasis. Please note that I am not ruling

out mercury toxicity. If you want a free, simple home test for candida,

follow this link...

http://www.iwr.com/candida/freetest.html

Ken

[Guest guest]

Greetings All

If you can not chew the raw then you can take a garlic press and put

the garlic on something you are eating and chew it up that way.

It works well.

Success

nieema

> >

> > >Greetings...

> > >I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to figure out what

exactly is

> > >going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years I have bobbed

around

> > >from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all of which

ended up

> being

> > >incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to figure things out.

> > >

> > >The closest thing I can come to is either Fibromyalgia / Chronic

Fatigue,

> or

> > >Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems like I may have

a lot

> of

> > >different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY BODY

JUST WONT

> > >**HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Good for you Luigi! You Go!

ph:951-303-3471

fax:603-994-1746

[Guest guest]

Watch it dude! You are describing exactly what I went through during the last

few years before (the Lord forbid!) I was diagnosed with cancer! Do yourself a

favor and find out how bad of a Candida problem you have (the test using

morning, pre breakfast saliva is really easy!), and attack it. Then try and see

what other parasites your body is likely hosting and follow whatever regimens

are needed to eliminate those as well.

The issue is that once your body is weakened by one parasite, all kinds of other

nasties take up residence and make you feel even worse.

In my case ( " terminal " bladder cancer, which by the way I have just been told I

am beating!) I use Dr. 's vitamins and supplements and her zapper, as well

as a " poor man's Rife " box to eliminate a MAJOR infestation of Candida, plus

Clostridium, Ascaris, several kinds of Strep, Cancer BX and BY and a whole mess

of other odds and ends. The end result is that I have enough energy that

doctors at Sloan and NY Hospital are having a cow a minute over me: all the

other patients using the chemo drugs I am on are on wheelchairs and some need

help even washing themselves. Instead I walk a 5 year old Springer Spaniel into

the ground once a day, work around the house, need no nausea medicine and make a

general nuisance of myself. Plus I eat whatever foods can't run away (although

I follow Dr. 's latest cancer foods list!). And as for libido, let's just

say that the wife calls me a dirty old man... I have just gone through surgery

to have a Port installed in my chest (so they do not have to dig around for

veins in my arms during chemo sessions): I drove to and from the hospital on my

own as an outpatient, woke up from surgery complaining I was hungry and have not

needed pain killers.

Dr. 's latest book contains suggestions and lists I must credit with my

feeling this good...

Luigi

My symptoms - please help!

Greetings...

I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to figure out what exactly is

going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years I have bobbed around

from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all of which ended up being

incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to figure things out.

The closest thing I can come to is either Fibromyalgia / Chronic Fatigue, or

Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems like I may have a lot of

different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY BODY JUST WONT

**HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

Can anyone please help to cut through the fog of confusion and suffering? I

am only 30 years old, and have been suffering for too long!! I am SO TIRED

of Drs not knowing what to tell me, cramming a million pills in my face, and

taking all my money and in return getting nothing besides frustration and

side effects.

Overall it seems as if my immune system is essentially just not functioning.

My body should have healed by now. I am only 30. It feels like something

SYSTEMIC is sapping my energy and hampering my immune system... BUT WHAT IS

IT!?!?!?!?!?

Here's what is going on with me:

MUSCLE PAIN / WEAKNESS:

My muscles hurt when I use them, specifically my shoulders, neck and arms.

And I am talking about light use - like reading some magazines or driving

for 30 min. I was in some fairly severe rear-ending car accidents in my

earlier years, so theoretically this could be causing some of my muscle

pain/weakness all these years later? Myofascial Pain Syndrome?

Fibromyalgia?

ENERGY:

My energy levels are also at an all time low - it is as if my " chi " or life

force is just COMPLETELY DRAINED. Hard to describe, but my " life energy "

feels like it is not even there at all. No excitement, no happiness, no

creative drive, no ANYTHING. I feel like a walking husk, like everything has

just gone flat line. Is this what Chronic Fatigue feels like?

ANXIETY:

I have a LOT of anxiety that appears to come from a biochemical / biological

level. In other words, I don't get all worked up about something and thus

experience anxiety. Quite the opposite: it's a nice day, I am in a good

mood, yet I have twisting, nervous anxiety running through my system.

Frustrating and hard to deal with to say the least.

LIBIDO:

My libido has never been so low in my life - it as if it is non-existent.

BRAIN FOG:

When I eat sugars or alcohol, I get the dreaded brain fog that Candida and

Fibromyalgia sufferers experience. This leads me to think that I have

Candida at a bare minimum.

DARK CIRCLES UNDER EYES:

These vary in intensity, but are always there to the point that people often

comment with things like " wow, you look tired! " or " wow, you look terrible!

Get some sleep! " etc etc etc. and it is not only very frustrating, but also

very embarrassing and self-esteem sapping.

WHEAT SENSITIVITY:

When I eat wheat (like the amount in an order of tempura shrimp), I get

upper extremity muscle pain, and very uncomfortable anxiety that almost

seems to come from a nervous system level. Hard to explain but it as if

someone is sticking a fork in my whole nervous system and just twisting.

Very uncomfortable, and usually is accompanied by stomach upset/nausea.

ALLERGIES / CHEMICAL SENSITIVITIES:

I am sensitive to many fragrances, detergents, etc so avoid all those, but

also have problems with dust mites, diesel smoke, etc. If I eat food that

was wrapped in certain types of Saran (PVC) wrap, I break out in hives. This

was recently discovered to be a sensitivity to phthalates which are

chemicals put into some plastics to soften them. See

http://www.calisafe.org/_disc1/00000066.htm and

http://www.jobwerx.com/news/Archives/plastics_biz-id=947140_529.html for

more info on phthalates.

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

> Dr. Jordan Rubin, the founder of Garden for Life products had many of

> your maladies and was almost dead by the time he was helped. Please

> read his books or do a google search for him to read his story and

> possibly make an appointment to see him.

I would caution you not to take his Primal Defense probiotic; it

contains the known cancer-causing bacillus lichenformis.

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

I've been out of the group loop for a couple of weeks, but I am a

newcomer to it and newly (about 1 month) diagnosed by a herbal

nutrionist with candida.

I read you post and really could relate to your plight and I feel for

you. I have most of your symtoms, but not as severe as you describe

yours to be. You could be having problems with all the issues you

mention, but trying the yeast elimination couldn't hurt.

I can tell you that I have been doing the candida elimination diet

for one month, and taking a bunch of supplements. It was tough

getting going, but now that I'm in a rythmn with it, it's not bad.

It's not the easiest thing to follow, and I do miss some things, but

it is doable, and I'm still learning. It's hard to say how I'm

feeling, but I will definitely say better. They say you will feel

worse before you feel much better as the yeast dies off causing

toxicity in your body for awhile. I haven't noticed real horrible

die off, but some issues. I am also for the first time treating my

allergies/sinuses naturally with herbs and drops. They have helped.

I have always been a sweetaholic,but since I've been off the sugar, I

don't really crave it (just miss it). Never was much of an alcoholic

beverage drinker so I don't really miss that at all. It always gave

me the brain fog and very stuffy anyway. For years and years I took

anti-biotics for sinus infections as well, and I'm avoiding those

like the plague now. Diary and wheat started to become a problem for

me as well and my stomach/digestion problems are much better since I

now avoid them. My hope is that some day in the not to far off

future I can slowly start adding some things back, but I think I will

always follow this style of diet foundationally. I have lost weight,

not a tremdous amount, but enough to feel less bloated and better.

So, I just wanted to give you some hope. I think if you can get with

the right naturopath, herbalist, etc, your condition can get better.

I like you finally hit my rock bottom with traditional medicine and

drugs. I just got sick and tired of feeling sick and tired, and

depressed. It's hard work and not easy to re-program years of eating

patterns that are so ingrained/connected to us socially and

culturally, but to start to feel better and more alive is very much

worth it.

Hang in there, and best of luck to you!

Laurie

> Greetings...

> I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to figure out what

exactly is

> going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years I have bobbed

around

> from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all of which ended

up being

> incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to figure things out.

>

> The closest thing I can come to is either Fibromyalgia / Chronic

Fatigue, or

> Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems like I may have a

lot of

> different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY BODY JUST

WONT

> **HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

>

> Can anyone please help to cut through the fog of confusion and

suffering? I

> am only 30 years old, and have been suffering for too long!! I am

SO TIRED

> of Drs not knowing what to tell me, cramming a million pills in my

face, and

> taking all my money and in return getting nothing besides

frustration and

> side effects.

>

> Overall it seems as if my immune system is essentially just not

functioning.

> My body should have healed by now. I am only 30. It feels like

something

> SYSTEMIC is sapping my energy and hampering my immune system... BUT

WHAT IS

> IT!?!?!?!?!?

>

> Here's what is going on with me:

>

> MUSCLE PAIN / WEAKNESS:

> My muscles hurt when I use them, specifically my shoulders, neck

and arms.

> And I am talking about light use - like reading some magazines or

driving

> for 30 min. I was in some fairly severe rear-ending car accidents

in my

> earlier years, so theoretically this could be causing some of my

muscle

> pain/weakness all these years later? Myofascial Pain Syndrome?

> Fibromyalgia?

>

> ENERGY:

> My energy levels are also at an all time low - it is as if my " chi "

or life

> force is just COMPLETELY DRAINED. Hard to describe, but my " life

energy "

> feels like it is not even there at all. No excitement, no

happiness, no

> creative drive, no ANYTHING. I feel like a walking husk, like

everything has

> just gone flat line. Is this what Chronic Fatigue feels like?

>

> ANXIETY:

> I have a LOT of anxiety that appears to come from a biochemical /

biological

> level. In other words, I don't get all worked up about something

and thus

> experience anxiety. Quite the opposite: it's a nice day, I am in a

good

> mood, yet I have twisting, nervous anxiety running through my

system.

> Frustrating and hard to deal with to say the least.

>

> LIBIDO:

> My libido has never been so low in my life - it as if it is non-

existent.

>

> BRAIN FOG:

> When I eat sugars or alcohol, I get the dreaded brain fog that

Candida and

> Fibromyalgia sufferers experience. This leads me to think that I

have

> Candida at a bare minimum.

>

> DARK CIRCLES UNDER EYES:

> These vary in intensity, but are always there to the point that

people often

> comment with things like " wow, you look tired! " or " wow, you look

terrible!

> Get some sleep! " etc etc etc. and it is not only very frustrating,

but also

> very embarrassing and self-esteem sapping.

>

> WHEAT SENSITIVITY:

> When I eat wheat (like the amount in an order of tempura shrimp), I

get

> upper extremity muscle pain, and very uncomfortable anxiety that

almost

> seems to come from a nervous system level. Hard to explain but it

as if

> someone is sticking a fork in my whole nervous system and just

twisting.

> Very uncomfortable, and usually is accompanied by stomach

upset/nausea.

>

> ALLERGIES / CHEMICAL SENSITIVITIES:

> I am sensitive to many fragrances, detergents, etc so avoid all

those, but

> also have problems with dust mites, diesel smoke, etc. If I eat

food that

> was wrapped in certain types of Saran (PVC) wrap, I break out in

hives. This

> was recently discovered to be a sensitivity to phthalates which are

> chemicals put into some plastics to soften them. See

> http://www.calisafe.org/_disc1/00000066.htm and

> http://www.jobwerx.com/news/Archives/plastics_biz-

id=947140_529.html for

> more info on phthalates.

>

>

> _jason_

> _________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

What is the diet exactly? Is it on the website?

What about threelac......you guys all on that?? does it help??

thanks

di

[Guest guest]

I concur with Luigi. I too had symptoms like that for many years

before I was diagnosed with breast cancer 6 years ago.

My surgeon told my husband that of the people that she treated with

cancer like mine 6 years ago, they are all dead but me. That is pretty

sobering.

Dr. 's " The Prevention of All Cancers " book, like Luigi indicated,

is what I would follow if I were you.

I have been following Dr. 's latest cancer program for over 5

years and gratefully credit her for saving my life. I refused all

chemo, radiation and drugs after I had surgery.

> Watch it dude! You are describing exactly what I went through during

the last few years before (the Lord forbid!)

[Guest guest]

On 5/25/05 4:28 PM, " Todd Gurss " <atgurss@...> wrote:

> ,

>

>

>

> Sounds like mercury poisoning. Many people have recovered using chelation

> therapy. I am treating my son who has some of the exact same symptoms

> which were caused by childhood vaccines. We have had great success with

> zapping, cleanses as well as changing the water we drink and using a

> Far-infared sauna with chelation. Immune system boosters may help as well.

> We use Transfer Factor. Changing your environment helps as well. Getting

> rid of any household toxins as well as trying to avoid them in the

> environment. Where you work as well as where you live could also be making

> you sick. Another thing, have you tried Chiropractic care? It has also

> helped our family tremendously.

Hi Amy,

Thanks for the mail. I have considered Mercury poisoning, but never was sure

if I actually had it. Is there a test you can get?

I have definitely recognized many toxins, and am avoiding all I know of (I

use natural / fragrance free everything). I work in an office environment,

are there factors there that could be making me sick?

I have tried Chiropractic many times but it has not really helped me. I have

tried a LOT of things - acupuncture+herbs, hellerwork, massage, etc

Recently I have considered revising the physical trauma aspect of the

injury, as for a long time I have thought it to be systemic (which it may be

in it's majority). But I was in some car accidents many years ago, and have

a lot of neck pain as a result. So I could definitely believe that I have a

lot of scar tissue, nerve impingement, etc, etc. that may be playing a

factor.

Thanks for the info!

_jason_

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[Guest guest]

On 5/25/05 5:49 PM, " S. Moskaly " <susan_moskaly@...>

wrote:

> Dear ,

>

> You might want to find a doctor who can diagnose Lyme Disease. I, too, have

> been ill for many years and have many of the same symptoms you have. I don't

> know yet whether or not I have Lyme Disease but am starting to take steps to

> find out (like trying a new doctor, out-of-state, next month).

>

> For the last month I have been reading about Lyme Disease on the internet and

> have joined a couple email groups on Lyme. You might want to check this

> out. I have learned that in recent years many doctors believe Lyme Disease is

> behind many chronic illnesses.

Hi ,

A LOT of people have suggested this as an explanation. Is it possible to

contract the disease without getting a tick bite? I don't really remember

getting bit, but it has been so many years that my memory may be failing me.

I am seeing a highly acclaimed Osteopath next Wed., and am hopeful about

that. But if that fails me, there is a very experienced Lyme Dr. here in

Santa Cruz. Here's his website: http://drrandy.org/

_jason_

_________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _

[Guest guest]

On 5/25/05 6:37 PM, " Ingrid Mager-Renault " <wolfiebear@...> wrote:

> I agree with Amy about the probability of Mercury toxicity, and would like

> to add that it may be also low thyroid as well. These two things often go

> hand in hand as mercury has an affinity for trashng the thyroid gland as wll

> as stressing out the adrenals, and then when the thyroid is not functoning

> well, then all the body systems slow down and you further don't metabolize

> and detox mercury and heavy metals and whatever else.

>

> Mercruy will make you feel flat. Low hormone levels can also make you feel

> totally flat about life, and stressed adrenals (wich tend to accompany

> mercury toxicity AND hytpothyroidism) will wipe out your sex drive.

>

> (Taking cortisone for adrenals helped a lot with my food allergies and

> lifted my brain fog. For some, it is the thyroid hormone that lifts the

> brain fog.)

Hi Ingrid,

Thanks for the further info here. I should have added in my original mail

that I recently had my adrenal and thyroid checked out @ the

endocrinologist, and apparently all is well. I am not sure if this is

another one of those things where Western medicine Drs are clueless and

their tests are not accurate (like with Lyme, etc.).

> My flat out guess is that you suffer from all three: mercury toxicity, low

> thyroid and hypoadrenalism. not being a doctor here (heaven forbid the white

> coated serial killers, LOl) but it does sound a lot like those things to me.

> They will totally screw your body systems up and most doctors have no clue

> about PROPERLY diagnosing and treating hypothyroidism, (you may have been

> tested and they say you are fine whe you are dcidedly NOT) no clue about

> mercury toxicity in the first place, and most will not even run tests for

> the adrenals.

Ah! :-) You answered my above question in the last paragraph.

> For mercury check out:

> www.noamalgam.com.

> also: frequent-dose-chelation

>

> for thyroid go to : naturalthyroidhormones

> With the thyroid forum, you will need to weed out lots of chatter, but it is

> likely THE best source of info in this where you won't get a bunch of

> MISinformaton....check out their files section for starters.

>

> I sincerely hope you decide to check out all those sites, as I have a

> sneaking suspicion you will get to the root of your problems through those

> avenues.

I will definitely check these out - thanks! :-)

> Yup....sounds like mercury to me! Still got you amalgams in????

Nope! Had them removed when I was a child (12yrs). Is there a possibility

that I could have been poisoned before they were removed?

> PS - Are you sure you are not reacting to the shrimp too? Shrimp can be

> loaded with mercury - I have had some awful attacks form eating some shrimp

> - no breading.

Hmm.... I don't think so... But makes me wonder. I had a strange reaction to

tempura shrimp the other night - I described it in my original mail. Hard

to explain but it as if someone is sticking a fork in my whole nervous

system and just twisting. Very uncomfortable, and usually is accompanied by

stomach upset/nausea. I had thought that to be a reaction wheat, but it

doesn't really sound like it now that you point out the mercury thing. VERY

interesting! :-)

I will check out the info you gave - thanks a lot, Ingrid!

_jason_

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[Guest guest]

, have you received any help from the lists you have been on?

Leo

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>

> > Dear ,

> >

> > Aren't you the same young guy I've seen on the ozone therapies

list (or maybe

> > it was the oxyplus list) and the colloidal silver list? Same kind

of litany of

> > symptoms? Are you trying to get help, or trying to gather

information about

> > those lists?

> >

> > Jan Bolen

>

> I am the same one from the Silver list. I am on several forums

trying to get

> some answers. And I am not gathering info - just someone who is

trying to

> get some answers to my ongoing health crisis! :-/

>

> _jason_

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>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

My name is Corey and I am 28 years old. I WAS where you ARE about 5

years ago, probably much worse with depression. I decided to fast

myself to death. I called it " involuntary " suicide. I locked myself

in my room and began drinking distilled water and nothing else

touched my mouth. 5 days before I did this I aquired a new roomate

from my hometown and I see in hindsight he was an angel sent to me.

He got a job within 2 days and was gone all day after at work. He

told me that he had a computer and if I gotr bored I could use it

all I wanted.

So about a week into fasting I came out of my sanctuary(room hehe)

and made the tired walk 1 flight of stairs to his computer. I knew

that nutrition was the only thing that was going to help me so I

typed " nutrition " into the search engine and began reading. I read

for days, sleeping about 3-4 hours each day, the rest of the time,

on the computer reading about nutrition.

After a while, I began to notice a trend in certain areas, namely

RAW and ANIMAL foods but they weren't put together yet untill day 18

where I came across the Price-Pottenger foundation. I had basically

been eating a primitive diet much like the Type O blood diet or the

Sally Fallon diet but my previous alcoholic lifestyle had weakened

my body so much I needed an all raw animal foods diet to get the

necessary nutrients with NO toxicity. All cooked food produces

toxicity.

I went to bed that night with a feeling of enlightenment and could

smell the end was near in my personal search for health which had

been going on for about 3 years previous. I just wanted to be happy

and be able to hold down a job, little did I know who I would meet

on the internet the next day. A man who would take me beyond just

holding down a job, but a man who would show me how to become

healthy, I mean above average healthy. That man I met on day 19 of

my fast, Aajonus Vonderplanitz.

The next day I woke up, dragged myself out of bed and went to the

computer. The first thing I typed in was raw meat diet for humans

and the Stanley Bass website came up. www.drbass.com

I read everything on that site untill I came upon the primitive diet

articles, with which I read the Aajonus example. As I read it, I

cried the entire time and extremely loud at times as I read and

read. I knew it was over. That interview with Aajonus by M2M

magazine saved my life and is the reason you are reading this right

now.

I became to weak to get out of bed the next day, day 20. I broke

that fast on day 24 after being bed ridden and wanting to die. After

2 days of eating raw vegetable juices and lots of fatty raw

hamburger I got strong enough to call my parents and tell them I was

moving back to the farm and was going to give this one last shot. If

this didn't work for me, I would go on bipolar medication which they

wanted me to do for many years. I told my Dad we needed to buy a

Jersey milk cow for me and we did. She calved 1 week later and I

began consuming massive amounts of raw dairy blended with raw eggs,

some fruit and occasionally some raw hamburger. I got stronger as

the months went by untill spring of 2004 during easter weekend, I

flew to California and had a personal consultation with this man,

this raw meat eater named Aajonus Vonderplanitz

continued...

> Greetings...

> I am on what appears to be an eternal quest to figure out what

exactly is

> going on in my body, and how to fix it. For 7 years I have bobbed

around

> from Dr. to Dr. and from diagnosis to diagnosis (all of which

ended up being

> incomplete), ultimately leaving me on my own to figure things out.

>

> The closest thing I can come to is either Fibromyalgia / Chronic

Fatigue, or

> Myofascial Pain Syndrome, Candida, and ??? Seems like I may have

a lot of

> different things going on, but I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY BODY JUST

WONT

> **HEAL** LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO!!!! :-(

>

> Can anyone please help to cut through the fog of confusion and

suffering? I

> am only 30 years old, and have been suffering for too long!! I am

SO TIRED

> of Drs not knowing what to tell me, cramming a million pills in my

face, and

> taking all my money and in return getting nothing besides

frustration and

> side effects.

>

> Overall it seems as if my immune system is essentially just not

functioning.

> My body should have healed by now. I am only 30. It feels like

something

> SYSTEMIC is sapping my energy and hampering my immune system...

BUT WHAT IS

> IT!?!?!?!?!?

>

> Here's what is going on with me:

>

> MUSCLE PAIN / WEAKNESS:

> My muscles hurt when I use them, specifically my shoulders, neck

and arms.

> And I am talking about light use - like reading some magazines or

driving

> for 30 min. I was in some fairly severe rear-ending car accidents

in my

> earlier years, so theoretically this could be causing some of my

muscle

> pain/weakness all these years later? Myofascial Pain Syndrome?

> Fibromyalgia?

>

> ENERGY:

> My energy levels are also at an all time low - it is as if

my " chi " or life

> force is just COMPLETELY DRAINED. Hard to describe, but my " life

energy "

> feels like it is not even there at all. No excitement, no

happiness, no

> creative drive, no ANYTHING. I feel like a walking husk, like

everything has

> just gone flat line. Is this what Chronic Fatigue feels like?

>

> ANXIETY:

> I have a LOT of anxiety that appears to come from a biochemical /

biological

> level. In other words, I don't get all worked up about something

and thus

> experience anxiety. Quite the opposite: it's a nice day, I am in a

good

> mood, yet I have twisting, nervous anxiety running through my

system.

> Frustrating and hard to deal with to say the least.

>

> LIBIDO:

> My libido has never been so low in my life - it as if it is non-

existent.

>

> BRAIN FOG:

> When I eat sugars or alcohol, I get the dreaded brain fog that

Candida and

> Fibromyalgia sufferers experience. This leads me to think that I

have

> Candida at a bare minimum.

>

> DARK CIRCLES UNDER EYES:

> These vary in intensity, but are always there to the point that

people often

> comment with things like " wow, you look tired! " or " wow, you look

terrible!

> Get some sleep! " etc etc etc. and it is not only very frustrating,

but also

> very embarrassing and self-esteem sapping.

>

> WHEAT SENSITIVITY:

> When I eat wheat (like the amount in an order of tempura shrimp),

I get

> upper extremity muscle pain, and very uncomfortable anxiety that

almost

> seems to come from a nervous system level. Hard to explain but it

as if

> someone is sticking a fork in my whole nervous system and just

twisting.

> Very uncomfortable, and usually is accompanied by stomach

upset/nausea.

>

> ALLERGIES / CHEMICAL SENSITIVITIES:

> I am sensitive to many fragrances, detergents, etc so avoid all

those, but

> also have problems with dust mites, diesel smoke, etc. If I eat

food that

> was wrapped in certain types of Saran (PVC) wrap, I break out in

hives. This

> was recently discovered to be a sensitivity to phthalates which are

> chemicals put into some plastics to soften them. See

> http://www.calisafe.org/_disc1/00000066.htm and

> http://www.jobwerx.com/news/Archives/plastics_biz-

id=947140_529.html for

> more info on phthalates.

>

>

> _jason_

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