Re: Vitamins Can Increase The Risk Of Early Death

[Guest guest]

Magena, it is not enough to just dump these allegations on this list

without performing due diligence as to the quality of the study

itself or to at least raise the issue. Many so called studies and

reviews have little or no credibility when examined for conflicts by

their authors or the study designs are examined critically.

Leo

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> Evening Standard

> 'Vitamins can increase the risk of early death'

> By Sims, Evening Standard

> 1 October 2004

> Thousands of people taking vitamins could be at risk of

premature death, according to research published today.

>

> A review of antioxidant vitamin supplements, such as Vitamin

E, found that instead of saving lives they appeared to increase the

overall dangers.

>

> Researchers who examined a series of trials involving 170,000

people claimed that for every million supplement users there are 9,000

premature deaths.

>

> Pooling the results of 14 trials assessing the effect of

vitamins on cancers of the gullet, stomach and intestine, bowel,

pancreas and liver, they discovered no protective effect from taking

supplements of beta-carotene, vitamins A, C and E, and selenium -

alone or in combination.

>

> In half the trials there was a small but significant increased

risk of premature death among those who took supplements.

>

> The scientists, led by Dr Goran Bjelakovic, from the

University of Nis, Serbia and Montenegro, said their results were

" unexpected " .

>

> Among the supplements used by millions on a daily basis two

combinations were associated with increased mortality. The risk of

death was 30 per cent higher for people taking beta-carotene and

vitamin A than for those not taking the combination. In the case of

people taking beta-carotene and vitamin E, relative risk was raised by

10 per cent.

>

> The researchers warned the findings were preliminary, and may

partly be due to people taking vitamin doses above recommended levels.

Professor Forman, of Leeds University, and Professor

Altman, from Cancer Research UK, said: " The prospect that vitamin

pills may not only do no good but also kill their consumers is a scary

speculation given the vast quantities used in certain communities. "

>

> But they said the death-rate analysis was incomplete and

should not at this stage be seen as " convincing proof of hazard " . They

added: " In the event that a hazard is established from a complete

review, these researchers will need to identify which specific

interventions are associated with any risk. "

>

> More than 12 million women and eight million men in Britain

regularly take vitamin supplements.

>

> Last year the Food Standards Agency singled out five

substances that may cause permanent damage if taken in large

quantities over a long period.

>

> They were beta-carotene, which was linked to an increased risk

of lung cancer in smokers, manganese (muscle and nerve disorders in

older people), nicotinic acid (cell damage), phosphorus (damage to

organs and tissues) and zinc (damage to the immune system).

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Vitamins don't cure cancer, and vitamins without minerals don't help,

was all the study showed. We know that most of us are MINERAL

deficient, and we know that minerals are very important to cancer

therapy. Too bad the researchers didn't prime their pumps first with

this article: http://royalrife.com/haltiwanger.html

On the other hand, perhaps the study set out to prove vitamins

worthless in the first place.

regards,

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

You are correct, many studies are designed at the outset to produce a

certain result. Other studies are cherry picked from a lot of clinical

trials if they show a desired result. Fraud is rampant in the peer

reviewed medical industry.

Leo

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> Vitamins don't cure cancer, and vitamins without minerals don't

help,

> was all the study showed. We know that most of us are MINERAL

> deficient, and we know that minerals are very important to cancer

> therapy. Too bad the researchers didn't prime their pumps first with

> this article: http://royalrife.com/haltiwanger.html

>

> On the other hand, perhaps the study set out to prove vitamins

> worthless in the first place.

>

> regards,

>

> Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

Sounds like a bunch of BS.....

-- In Dr , " regehr2001 " <leoelfie@t...> wrote:

> Magena, it is not enough to just dump these allegations on this

list

> without performing due diligence as to the quality of the study

> itself or to at least raise the issue. Many so called studies and

> reviews have little or no credibility when examined for conflicts

by

> their authors or the study designs are examined critically.

> Leo

> ----------

>

> > Evening Standard

> > 'Vitamins can increase the risk of early death'

> > By Sims, Evening Standard

> > 1 October 2004

> > Thousands of people taking vitamins could be at risk of

> premature death, according to research published today.

> >

> > A review of antioxidant vitamin supplements, such as

Vitamin

> E, found that instead of saving lives they appeared to increase

the

> overall dangers.

> >

> > Researchers who examined a series of trials involving

170,000

> people claimed that for every million supplement users there are

9,000

> premature deaths.

> >

> > Pooling the results of 14 trials assessing the effect of

> vitamins on cancers of the gullet, stomach and intestine, bowel,

> pancreas and liver, they discovered no protective effect from

taking

> supplements of beta-carotene, vitamins A, C and E, and selenium -

> alone or in combination.

> >

> > In half the trials there was a small but significant

increased

> risk of premature death among those who took supplements.

> >

> > The scientists, led by Dr Goran Bjelakovic, from the

> University of Nis, Serbia and Montenegro, said their results were

> " unexpected " .

> >

> > Among the supplements used by millions on a daily basis

two

> combinations were associated with increased mortality. The risk of

> death was 30 per cent higher for people taking beta-carotene and

> vitamin A than for those not taking the combination. In the case

of

> people taking beta-carotene and vitamin E, relative risk was

raised by

> 10 per cent.

> >

> > The researchers warned the findings were preliminary, and

may

> partly be due to people taking vitamin doses above recommended

levels.

> Professor Forman, of Leeds University, and Professor

> Altman, from Cancer Research UK, said: " The prospect that vitamin

> pills may not only do no good but also kill their consumers is a

scary

> speculation given the vast quantities used in certain

communities. "

> >

> > But they said the death-rate analysis was incomplete and

> should not at this stage be seen as " convincing proof of hazard " .

They

> added: " In the event that a hazard is established from a complete

> review, these researchers will need to identify which specific

> interventions are associated with any risk. "

> >

> > More than 12 million women and eight million men in

Britain

> regularly take vitamin supplements.

> >

> > Last year the Food Standards Agency singled out five

> substances that may cause permanent damage if taken in large

> quantities over a long period.

> >

> > They were beta-carotene, which was linked to an increased

risk

> of lung cancer in smokers, manganese (muscle and nerve disorders

in

> older people), nicotinic acid (cell damage), phosphorus (damage to

> organs and tissues) and zinc (damage to the immune system).

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The reports clearly states that the results for beta carotene were for

SMOKERS only. (See last paragraph, the only one worth reading.)

Regarding Phosphorus...go figure, except the report would make you believe

it is supplements, not sodas that are bad. Nor did the report state what a large

quantity is, or what constitutes a long duration of time. Very misleading at

best. The people who promote info like that think the public is really stupid.

>

> Sounds like a bunch of BS.....

>

> > > > 'Vitamins can increase the risk of early death'

> > > By Sims, Evening Standard

> > > 1 October 2004

> > > Thousands of people taking vitamins could be at risk of

> > premature death, according to research published today.

> > > blah blah blah

> > >> > > Last year the Food Standards Agency singled out five

> > substances that may cause permanent damage if taken in large

> > quantities over a long period.

> > >

> > > They were beta-carotene, which was linked to an increased

> risk

> > of lung cancer in smokers, manganese (muscle and nerve disorders

> in

> > older people), nicotinic acid (cell damage), phosphorus (damage to

> > organs and tissues) and zinc (damage to the immune system).

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >