Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Hi Sharon, I am so sorry to hear about all the trouble you have been through with your health! I know how awful it can be. I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis last year after my son was born and I went through a terrible time with it. I also came down with something called a salivary stone- similar to a a kidney or gallstone only it forms in the salivary duct. It got infected, blew up to the size of a golf ball and turned into pain that was worse than childbirth. I have been seeing a holistic doctor that ran many tests on me, some of which you may want to consider looking into. One of the most important ones was a chelated induced heavy metal test that showed that I had high amounts of mercury and lead in my body. I also did other tests that showed that I had a mild case of leaky gut, high Estrogen, and parasites. I have since had all my amalgam fillings removed, and have been undergoing chelation therapy using DMSA for the last 7 months. I have also been on many different herbs and vitamins and if you are interested in knowing specifically which ones I'll put a list together for you. I read Dr. 's book and about a month ago I started zapping. I have not started her exact liver / kidney, and parasite cleanses, but I have been doing similar cleanses that my holistic doctors have advised me to do. I have to say that since I've started zapping I have noticed huge improvements. In fact, there are days when I feel almost completely symptom free! It seems miraculous considering only six months ago there were days when I could barely walk and write. The road between last year and now has been very long and hard and it has taken a lot of research and many different types of therapies to get through it - acupuncture, colonics, massage, infrared saunas (to help detox the heavy metals). I try to stay as patient as I can, stay in touch with others that have healed holistically,and stay positive- there is never a doubt in my mind that I'm not going to get through this! I realize it took a long time for my body to get this way, it's not going to heal overnight! I don't know if you have amalgam fillings, or root canals, or if you have been checked for heavy metals but I think focusing on those things have been instrumental in my healing process. Please let me know if you have any questions about some of the things I am doing. You are very brave to be trying the things you are doing!!! All the best! P.S.- same time last year I was scheduled to have my salivary duct surgically removed and at the last minute I opted against it. The doctor said it would be a chronic problem and I would have chronic infections, but so far, knock wood, I seem to be okay. --- Sharon Beverly <natesse@...> wrote: > Hello all: > > It's been about 4 months now since I followed the > protocol for parasite cleanse, bowel cleanse, > kidney cleanse, and liver cleanse. Although > successful, I developed a stuck stone a few days > after the liver flush, and was quite ill for some > weeks after until I managed to get it to pass, not > to mention the horrors inflicted upon my stomach and > colon by the Epsom salts. > That was my first flush, and I have not done > another one yet. I've been trying to get my body in > better shape first, and I've used a natural fiber > herbal colon cleansne as well as Oxypowder. I used > it for about 4 weeks over a month ago. > I gained alot of weight while taking a drug > called Effexor XR daily for my severe migraine > variant. It also casued me to sweat profusely and > have hot flashes and it raised my heart rate and > blood pressure to dangerous levels, not to mention > the expense, so I quit taking it several months back > when I bought Dr. 's book and decided to clean > house. > My migraine symptoms are active now from the wet > weather here in Tampa, but mild at best > comparatively, for which I am thankful, but now I am > experiencing new problems that are getting worse. > Perhaps someone can offer wise counsel. > I've been slowly losing weight, but I've > developed monthly migraines now, and along with it I > have a few days each month where my mood becomes > very dark, and I eat like a horse to go along with > my headaches, and I gain most of the weight back. > I've been taking CoEnzyme Q10, Riboflavin, > Magnesium/Calcium, and Feverfew, all of which are > supposed to help with the migraine problem. I > suppose they do, because it used to be much worse > every day, not just in monthly cycles. Now I am > really getting depressed because of this vicious > cycle I'm in. > I decided to fast and pray for 5 days three weeks > ago. It was very beneficial overall, but it appears > to have given my stomach ulcer a chance to become > active again. I had GERD symptoms terribly during > the fast, but I ignored it and drank more water. > Now, every time I eat, my stomach hurts real bad, > and sometimes I even get hot, dizzy, and feel faint > from the pain after eating. I get stabbing pains > when my tummy is empty as well. My gut is irritable > and inflamed, too, and I'm constipated and gassy, > which is new. I've never had a problem with > constipation except for when taking certain > medications that can cause constipation. > I also have a long history of severe gingivitis, > and lately when I wake up in the morning my tongue > is swollen, and heavily coated, and I have little > tender red spots all around the edges. My throat is > sore and scratchy, and this morning I'm losing my > voice. > I've been aggressively battling this for years, > but the bone and gum loss has still progressed. At > this point, I'd love to have all my lower teeth > removed and get dentures just to relieve the > constant pain. My mother lost all her teeth by the > time she was 45. I'm 40. My sister has been able to > have expensive dental work done regularly to keep up > with the problem, but even she has marked gum > recession when compared to the average, healthy gum. > I feel so crappy all the time now. I am so > fatigued, and the left side of my body, arms, legs, > and all, are back to hurting all the time. That goes > along with my left-sided migraines, and I've also > got carpal tunnel syndrome on the left. I have spent > so much time and money on this, and I'm growing > weary of taking all these herbs and supplements, and > doing all these things, and I'm still developing > problems. Do I need to go on some sort of strict > diet? Could there be a connection between my sore > gums and my sore tummy? > I have to be careful with medications, even > herbals, because I'm hyper-sensitive, and they can > cause me to experience severe migraines. I tried > taking St. 's Wort for the monthly mood, > headache thing, and it made me even sicker, which is > not uncommon for me. The oils (fish, flax seed, > sunflower, evening primrose) make my stomach hurt, > too, even when taken with food. > I'm sure I left something out, but this is a > start.......) Thanks for listening, and any advice > will be greatly appreciated. > > Sincerely, > Sharon Beverly > Tampa, Florida USA > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 do you have lyme? --- Sharon Beverly <natesse@...> wrote: > Hello all: > > It's been about 4 months now since I followed the > protocol for parasite cleanse, bowel cleanse, > kidney cleanse, and liver cleanse. Although > successful, I developed a stuck stone a few days > after the liver flush, and was quite ill for some > weeks after until I managed to get it to pass, not > to mention the horrors inflicted upon my stomach and > colon by the Epsom salts. > That was my first flush, and I have not done > another one yet. I've been trying to get my body in > better shape first, and I've used a natural fiber > herbal colon cleansne as well as Oxypowder. I used > it for about 4 weeks over a month ago. > I gained alot of weight while taking a drug > called Effexor XR daily for my severe migraine > variant. It also casued me to sweat profusely and > have hot flashes and it raised my heart rate and > blood pressure to dangerous levels, not to mention > the expense, so I quit taking it several months back > when I bought Dr. 's book and decided to clean > house. > My migraine symptoms are active now from the wet > weather here in Tampa, but mild at best > comparatively, for which I am thankful, but now I am > experiencing new problems that are getting worse. > Perhaps someone can offer wise counsel. > I've been slowly losing weight, but I've > developed monthly migraines now, and along with it I > have a few days each month where my mood becomes > very dark, and I eat like a horse to go along with > my headaches, and I gain most of the weight back. > I've been taking CoEnzyme Q10, Riboflavin, > Magnesium/Calcium, and Feverfew, all of which are > supposed to help with the migraine problem. I > suppose they do, because it used to be much worse > every day, not just in monthly cycles. Now I am > really getting depressed because of this vicious > cycle I'm in. > I decided to fast and pray for 5 days three weeks > ago. It was very beneficial overall, but it appears > to have given my stomach ulcer a chance to become > active again. I had GERD symptoms terribly during > the fast, but I ignored it and drank more water. > Now, every time I eat, my stomach hurts real bad, > and sometimes I even get hot, dizzy, and feel faint > from the pain after eating. I get stabbing pains > when my tummy is empty as well. My gut is irritable > and inflamed, too, and I'm constipated and gassy, > which is new. I've never had a problem with > constipation except for when taking certain > medications that can cause constipation. > I also have a long history of severe gingivitis, > and lately when I wake up in the morning my tongue > is swollen, and heavily coated, and I have little > tender red spots all around the edges. My throat is > sore and scratchy, and this morning I'm losing my > voice. > I've been aggressively battling this for years, > but the bone and gum loss has still progressed. At > this point, I'd love to have all my lower teeth > removed and get dentures just to relieve the > constant pain. My mother lost all her teeth by the > time she was 45. I'm 40. My sister has been able to > have expensive dental work done regularly to keep up > with the problem, but even she has marked gum > recession when compared to the average, healthy gum. > I feel so crappy all the time now. I am so > fatigued, and the left side of my body, arms, legs, > and all, are back to hurting all the time. That goes > along with my left-sided migraines, and I've also > got carpal tunnel syndrome on the left. I have spent > so much time and money on this, and I'm growing > weary of taking all these herbs and supplements, and > doing all these things, and I'm still developing > problems. Do I need to go on some sort of strict > diet? Could there be a connection between my sore > gums and my sore tummy? > I have to be careful with medications, even > herbals, because I'm hyper-sensitive, and they can > cause me to experience severe migraines. I tried > taking St. 's Wort for the monthly mood, > headache thing, and it made me even sicker, which is > not uncommon for me. The oils (fish, flax seed, > sunflower, evening primrose) make my stomach hurt, > too, even when taken with food. > I'm sure I left something out, but this is a > start.......) Thanks for listening, and any advice > will be greatly appreciated. > > Sincerely, > Sharon Beverly > Tampa, Florida USA > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 sharon have you ever heard of colloidal silver? it is truly a wonderful product , it may help you with the bacteria that is causing your detal pain. my boyfriend used to have cronic sinus infection and using colloidal silver got rid of them for good. gargle with it suck it through your teeth and then swallow it .. stick with clarks program. take the herbs. keep zapping. did you do her liver cleanse properly? you shouldnt have had those problems if you followed it exactly. we've done a dozen of them with great results and no problems. m & a Sharon Beverly <natesse@...> wrote: Hello all: It's been about 4 months now since I followed the protocol for parasite cleanse, bowel cleanse, kidney cleanse, and liver cleanse. Although successful, I developed a stuck stone a few days after the liver flush, and was quite ill for some weeks after until I managed to get it to pass, not to mention the horrors inflicted upon my stomach and colon by the Epsom salts. That was my first flush, and I have not done another one yet. I've been trying to get my body in better shape first, and I've used a natural fiber herbal colon cleansne as well as Oxypowder. I used it for about 4 weeks over a month ago. I gained alot of weight while taking a drug called Effexor XR daily for my severe migraine variant. It also casued me to sweat profusely and have hot flashes and it raised my heart rate and blood pressure to dangerous levels, not to mention the expense, so I quit taking it several months back when I bought Dr. 's book and decided to clean house. My migraine symptoms are active now from the wet weather here in Tampa, but mild at best comparatively, for which I am thankful, but now I am experiencing new problems that are getting worse. Perhaps someone can offer wise counsel. I've been slowly losing weight, but I've developed monthly migraines now, and along with it I have a few days each month where my mood becomes very dark, and I eat like a horse to go along with my headaches, and I gain most of the weight back. I've been taking CoEnzyme Q10, Riboflavin, Magnesium/Calcium, and Feverfew, all of which are supposed to help with the migraine problem. I suppose they do, because it used to be much worse every day, not just in monthly cycles. Now I am really getting depressed because of this vicious cycle I'm in. I decided to fast and pray for 5 days three weeks ago. It was very beneficial overall, but it appears to have given my stomach ulcer a chance to become active again. I had GERD symptoms terribly during the fast, but I ignored it and drank more water. Now, every time I eat, my stomach hurts real bad, and sometimes I even get hot, dizzy, and feel faint from the pain after eating. I get stabbing pains when my tummy is empty as well. My gut is irritable and inflamed, too, and I'm constipated and gassy, which is new. I've never had a problem with constipation except for when taking certain medications that can cause constipation. I also have a long history of severe gingivitis, and lately when I wake up in the morning my tongue is swollen, and heavily coated, and I have little tender red spots all around the edges. My throat is sore and scratchy, and this morning I'm losing my voice. I've been aggressively battling this for years, but the bone and gum loss has still progressed. At this point, I'd love to have all my lower teeth removed and get dentures just to relieve the constant pain. My mother lost all her teeth by the time she was 45. I'm 40. My sister has been able to have expensive dental work done regularly to keep up with the problem, but even she has marked gum recession when compared to the average, healthy gum. I feel so crappy all the time now. I am so fatigued, and the left side of my body, arms, legs, and all, are back to hurting all the time. That goes along with my left-sided migraines, and I've also got carpal tunnel syndrome on the left. I have spent so much time and money on this, and I'm growing weary of taking all these herbs and supplements, and doing all these things, and I'm still developing problems. Do I need to go on some sort of strict diet? Could there be a connection between my sore gums and my sore tummy? I have to be careful with medications, even herbals, because I'm hyper-sensitive, and they can cause me to experience severe migraines. I tried taking St. 's Wort for the monthly mood, headache thing, and it made me even sicker, which is not uncommon for me. The oils (fish, flax seed, sunflower, evening primrose) make my stomach hurt, too, even when taken with food. I'm sure I left something out, but this is a start.......) Thanks for listening, and any advice will be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Sharon Beverly Tampa, Florida USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Hi : Thanks so much for your response.....) You have certainly been through the mill yourself, you dear girl! I recently discovered that there is an MD just over the bridge in St. Pete who is also an alternatvie medicine man. He's been praticing for over 40 years, and he has clientele from all over the world. I plan to go see him. It's funny you mentioned the salivary stones. I was just thinking that may be part of my trouble this morning. A co-worker had that happen several years ago and her neck swelled up like a chipmunk from the saliva back-up. I noticed this morning that there is a mediaum-sized white spot directly in the salivary line under my tongue. It doesn't appear to be completely calcified, but it is fairly hard. I think it is pus. YUCK! It is very painful, whatever it is. I also noticed yetserday and today that when I drink my morning water when I take my herbs and vitamins, the filtered water tastes very salty, like mineral salts, not plain salt. It tastes like my tongue is cotaed with Epsom salt. It was the same way this morning. Maybe I need to cut back on my Magnesium? I think I may have whacked out my intestinal flora and electrolyte balance with the fasting since I was already in the midst of doing different cleanses, etc. My body had a major healing crisis after the liver flush, and it's still not 100% right. Like you said, our bodies didn't get this way over night, so it will take time to get it back in shape....) I've started drinking lemon cleanse drinks with ACV, and apple juice with ACV as well. I'm having a protein shake with kefir each day, too. This is helping tremendously already. I'm thinking of doing another liver cleanse this weekend. I think I need to do it even though I am still a bit leary. A sluggish liver could also be the culprit in my migraines. I would love to get those out of my system! LOL! I know I need to have myself checked for heavy metals. I've been losing hair around my temples for years, and I do have fillings, one root canal, and a bridge with metal under it. Hubby is having extensive dental work right now, and after he is done, it's my turn. It's so expensive! I have to take a side track and tell all of you about my hubby's journey. He was diagnosed with right-sided trigeminal neurlagia about 5 years ago. It is labeled the world's worst pain, and involves the cranial nerve that innervates the face. He suffered horribly with this. We always suspected it originated with two botched root canals on two molars on the bottom. When it first began, it started with a small, painful lump that came up on the gum in front of the root canal area. We could never get a dentist or a neurologist to admit there was a relationship. No surprise there, huh? Anyway, he had a routine MRI after he was diagnosed, and it showed a brain tumor around his pituitary gland. We were devastated, because they couldn't tell us what it was, how bad it was, etc. until they got inside his head. I was so thrilled and thanked God when the doctor came out after five hours of surgery and told me it was benign tissue, it hadn't touched anything important, and he was able to remove it completely. We were thrilled. Now, two years after the surgery he was still taking strong anti-seizure meds for the facial pain, and the botched root canal teeth had become a real problem, so he had them both pulled. This past March marked three years since the surgery, and about two years since having the teeth removed. He decided on his own to gradually decrease the Tegretol, and guess what? His pain is gone! He no longer has to take anything. The doctors are skeptical, but we know having those teeth removed is what cured him. At least it's been documented with the neurologist. If it isn't too much trouble, I would love to hear what herbs and things you have had success with. Thank you very much......) Sharon Re: Stomach/Gum Troubles Hi Sharon, I am so sorry to hear about all the trouble you have been through with your health! I know how awful it can be. I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis last year after my son was born and I went through a terrible time with it. I also came down with something called a salivary stone- similar to a a kidney or gallstone only it forms in the salivary duct. It got infected, blew up to the size of a golf ball and turned into pain that was worse than childbirth. I have been seeing a holistic doctor that ran many tests on me, some of which you may want to consider looking into. One of the most important ones was a chelated induced heavy metal test that showed that I had high amounts of mercury and lead in my body. I also did other tests that showed that I had a mild case of leaky gut, high Estrogen, and parasites. I have since had all my amalgam fillings removed, and have been undergoing chelation therapy using DMSA for the last 7 months. I have also been on many different herbs and vitamins and if you are interested in knowing specifically which ones I'll put a list together for you. I read Dr. 's book and about a month ago I started zapping. I have not started her exact liver / kidney, and parasite cleanses, but I have been doing similar cleanses that my holistic doctors have advised me to do. I have to say that since I've started zapping I have noticed huge improvements. In fact, there are days when I feel almost completely symptom free! It seems miraculous considering only six months ago there were days when I could barely walk and write. The road between last year and now has been very long and hard and it has taken a lot of research and many different types of therapies to get through it - acupuncture, colonics, massage, infrared saunas (to help detox the heavy metals). I try to stay as patient as I can, stay in touch with others that have healed holistically,and stay positive- there is never a doubt in my mind that I'm not going to get through this! I realize it took a long time for my body to get this way, it's not going to heal overnight! I don't know if you have amalgam fillings, or root canals, or if you have been checked for heavy metals but I think focusing on those things have been instrumental in my healing process. Please let me know if you have any questions about some of the things I am doing. You are very brave to be trying the things you are doing!!! All the best! P.S.- same time last year I was scheduled to have my salivary duct surgically removed and at the last minute I opted against it. The doctor said it would be a chronic problem and I would have chronic infections, but so far, knock wood, I seem to be okay. --- Sharon Beverly <natesse@...> wrote: > Hello all: > > It's been about 4 months now since I followed the > protocol for parasite cleanse, bowel cleanse, > kidney cleanse, and liver cleanse. Although > successful, I developed a stuck stone a few days > after the liver flush, and was quite ill for some > weeks after until I managed to get it to pass, not > to mention the horrors inflicted upon my stomach and > colon by the Epsom salts. > That was my first flush, and I have not done > another one yet. I've been trying to get my body in > better shape first, and I've used a natural fiber > herbal colon cleansne as well as Oxypowder. I used > it for about 4 weeks over a month ago. > I gained alot of weight while taking a drug > called Effexor XR daily for my severe migraine > variant. It also casued me to sweat profusely and > have hot flashes and it raised my heart rate and > blood pressure to dangerous levels, not to mention > the expense, so I quit taking it several months back > when I bought Dr. 's book and decided to clean > house. > My migraine symptoms are active now from the wet > weather here in Tampa, but mild at best > comparatively, for which I am thankful, but now I am > experiencing new problems that are getting worse. > Perhaps someone can offer wise counsel. > I've been slowly losing weight, but I've > developed monthly migraines now, and along with it I > have a few days each month where my mood becomes > very dark, and I eat like a horse to go along with > my headaches, and I gain most of the weight back. > I've been taking CoEnzyme Q10, Riboflavin, > Magnesium/Calcium, and Feverfew, all of which are > supposed to help with the migraine problem. I > suppose they do, because it used to be much worse > every day, not just in monthly cycles. Now I am > really getting depressed because of this vicious > cycle I'm in. > I decided to fast and pray for 5 days three weeks > ago. It was very beneficial overall, but it appears > to have given my stomach ulcer a chance to become > active again. I had GERD symptoms terribly during > the fast, but I ignored it and drank more water. > Now, every time I eat, my stomach hurts real bad, > and sometimes I even get hot, dizzy, and feel faint > from the pain after eating. I get stabbing pains > when my tummy is empty as well. My gut is irritable > and inflamed, too, and I'm constipated and gassy, > which is new. I've never had a problem with > constipation except for when taking certain > medications that can cause constipation. > I also have a long history of severe gingivitis, > and lately when I wake up in the morning my tongue > is swollen, and heavily coated, and I have little > tender red spots all around the edges. My throat is > sore and scratchy, and this morning I'm losing my > voice. > I've been aggressively battling this for years, > but the bone and gum loss has still progressed. At > this point, I'd love to have all my lower teeth > removed and get dentures just to relieve the > constant pain. My mother lost all her teeth by the > time she was 45. I'm 40. My sister has been able to > have expensive dental work done regularly to keep up > with the problem, but even she has marked gum > recession when compared to the average, healthy gum. > I feel so crappy all the time now. I am so > fatigued, and the left side of my body, arms, legs, > and all, are back to hurting all the time. That goes > along with my left-sided migraines, and I've also > got carpal tunnel syndrome on the left. I have spent > so much time and money on this, and I'm growing > weary of taking all these herbs and supplements, and > doing all these things, and I'm still developing > problems. Do I need to go on some sort of strict > diet? Could there be a connection between my sore > gums and my sore tummy? > I have to be careful with medications, even > herbals, because I'm hyper-sensitive, and they can > cause me to experience severe migraines. I tried > taking St. 's Wort for the monthly mood, > headache thing, and it made me even sicker, which is > not uncommon for me. The oils (fish, flax seed, > sunflower, evening primrose) make my stomach hurt, > too, even when taken with food. > I'm sure I left something out, but this is a > start.......) Thanks for listening, and any advice > will be greatly appreciated. > > Sincerely, > Sharon Beverly > Tampa, Florida USA > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Hi : Forgive my ignorance but, do you mean lyme disease, or lyme as in lyme light? Sharon Re: Stomach/Gum Troubles do you have lyme? --- Sharon Beverly <natesse@...> wrote: > Hello all: > > It's been about 4 months now since I followed the > protocol for parasite cleanse, bowel cleanse, > kidney cleanse, and liver cleanse. Although > successful, I developed a stuck stone a few days > after the liver flush, and was quite ill for some > weeks after until I managed to get it to pass, not > to mention the horrors inflicted upon my stomach and > colon by the Epsom salts. > That was my first flush, and I have not done > another one yet. I've been trying to get my body in > better shape first, and I've used a natural fiber > herbal colon cleansne as well as Oxypowder. I used > it for about 4 weeks over a month ago. > I gained alot of weight while taking a drug > called Effexor XR daily for my severe migraine > variant. It also casued me to sweat profusely and > have hot flashes and it raised my heart rate and > blood pressure to dangerous levels, not to mention > the expense, so I quit taking it several months back > when I bought Dr. 's book and decided to clean > house. > My migraine symptoms are active now from the wet > weather here in Tampa, but mild at best > comparatively, for which I am thankful, but now I am > experiencing new problems that are getting worse. > Perhaps someone can offer wise counsel. > I've been slowly losing weight, but I've > developed monthly migraines now, and along with it I > have a few days each month where my mood becomes > very dark, and I eat like a horse to go along with > my headaches, and I gain most of the weight back. > I've been taking CoEnzyme Q10, Riboflavin, > Magnesium/Calcium, and Feverfew, all of which are > supposed to help with the migraine problem. I > suppose they do, because it used to be much worse > every day, not just in monthly cycles. Now I am > really getting depressed because of this vicious > cycle I'm in. > I decided to fast and pray for 5 days three weeks > ago. It was very beneficial overall, but it appears > to have given my stomach ulcer a chance to become > active again. I had GERD symptoms terribly during > the fast, but I ignored it and drank more water. > Now, every time I eat, my stomach hurts real bad, > and sometimes I even get hot, dizzy, and feel faint > from the pain after eating. I get stabbing pains > when my tummy is empty as well. My gut is irritable > and inflamed, too, and I'm constipated and gassy, > which is new. I've never had a problem with > constipation except for when taking certain > medications that can cause constipation. > I also have a long history of severe gingivitis, > and lately when I wake up in the morning my tongue > is swollen, and heavily coated, and I have little > tender red spots all around the edges. My throat is > sore and scratchy, and this morning I'm losing my > voice. > I've been aggressively battling this for years, > but the bone and gum loss has still progressed. At > this point, I'd love to have all my lower teeth > removed and get dentures just to relieve the > constant pain. My mother lost all her teeth by the > time she was 45. I'm 40. My sister has been able to > have expensive dental work done regularly to keep up > with the problem, but even she has marked gum > recession when compared to the average, healthy gum. > I feel so crappy all the time now. I am so > fatigued, and the left side of my body, arms, legs, > and all, are back to hurting all the time. That goes > along with my left-sided migraines, and I've also > got carpal tunnel syndrome on the left. I have spent > so much time and money on this, and I'm growing > weary of taking all these herbs and supplements, and > doing all these things, and I'm still developing > problems. Do I need to go on some sort of strict > diet? Could there be a connection between my sore > gums and my sore tummy? > I have to be careful with medications, even > herbals, because I'm hyper-sensitive, and they can > cause me to experience severe migraines. I tried > taking St. 's Wort for the monthly mood, > headache thing, and it made me even sicker, which is > not uncommon for me. The oils (fish, flax seed, > sunflower, evening primrose) make my stomach hurt, > too, even when taken with food. > I'm sure I left something out, but this is a > start.......) Thanks for listening, and any advice > will be greatly appreciated. > > Sincerely, > Sharon Beverly > Tampa, Florida USA > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Wow Sharon...that sounds EXACTLY like what I had- That is amazing! Be careful, you don't want to get an infection! It was EXTREMELY painful! I ignored the problem for quite a while- I was dealing with a colicky newborn- but eventually it got infected and like I said it became extraordinarlily painful! I had acupuncture done on that salivary gland 1x / week for about two months and I saw an amazing healer that, among other things, used oregano oil by Young Living on the gland. It seems to be better, but I know it is not completely gone because I still feel a slight hardness there. I am hoping some of the cleanses that I am going to do this summer will help soften whatever is left in there and help it pass through the duct. What a harrowing story about your husband as well! I am glad to hear that he is doing better, and getting the dental work. I just saw my bio dentist yesterday..He is one of the most amazing doctors I've ever seen. I will try to put together a list of some of the vitamins and herbs I've been taking- it is pretty extensive and may take me a little bit..In the meantime, please stay in touch, I would love to hear about your progess! --- Sharon Beverly <natesse@...> wrote: > Hi : > > Thanks so much for your response.....) You have > certainly been through the mill yourself, you dear > girl! > I recently discovered that there is an MD just > over the bridge in St. Pete who is also an > alternatvie medicine man. He's been praticing for > over 40 years, and he has clientele from all over > the world. I plan to go see him. > It's funny you mentioned the salivary stones. I > was just thinking that may be part of my trouble > this morning. A co-worker had that happen several > years ago and her neck swelled up like a chipmunk > from the saliva back-up. > I noticed this morning that there is a > mediaum-sized white spot directly in the salivary > line under my tongue. It doesn't appear to be > completely calcified, but it is fairly hard. I think > it is pus. YUCK! It is very painful, whatever it is. > I also noticed yetserday and today that when I > drink my morning water when I take my herbs and > vitamins, the filtered water tastes very salty, like > mineral salts, not plain salt. It tastes like my > tongue is cotaed with Epsom salt. It was the same > way this morning. Maybe I need to cut back on my > Magnesium? > I think I may have whacked out my intestinal > flora and electrolyte balance with the fasting since > I was already in the midst of doing different > cleanses, etc. My body had a major healing crisis > after the liver flush, and it's still not 100% > right. Like you said, our bodies didn't get this > way over night, so it will take time to get it back > in shape....) > I've started drinking lemon cleanse drinks with > ACV, and apple juice with ACV as well. I'm having a > protein shake with kefir each day, too. This is > helping tremendously already. > I'm thinking of doing another liver cleanse this > weekend. I think I need to do it even though I am > still a bit leary. A sluggish liver could also be > the culprit in my migraines. I would love to get > those out of my system! LOL! > I know I need to have myself checked for heavy > metals. I've been losing hair around my temples for > years, and I do have fillings, one root canal, and a > bridge with metal under it. Hubby is having > extensive dental work right now, and after he is > done, it's my turn. It's so expensive! I have to > take a side track and tell all of you about my > hubby's journey. > He was diagnosed with right-sided trigeminal > neurlagia about 5 years ago. It is labeled the > world's worst pain, and involves the cranial nerve > that innervates the face. He suffered horribly with > this. We always suspected it originated with two > botched root canals on two molars on the bottom. > When it first began, it started with a small, > painful lump that came up on the gum in front of the > root canal area. We could never get a dentist or a > neurologist to admit there was a relationship. No > surprise there, huh? > Anyway, he had a routine MRI after he was > diagnosed, and it showed a brain tumor around his > pituitary gland. We were devastated, because they > couldn't tell us what it was, how bad it was, etc. > until they got inside his head. I was so thrilled > and thanked God when the doctor came out after five > hours of surgery and told me it was benign tissue, > it hadn't touched anything important, and he was > able to remove it completely. We were thrilled. > Now, two years after the surgery he was still > taking strong anti-seizure meds for the facial pain, > and the botched root canal teeth had become a real > problem, so he had them both pulled. This past March > marked three years since the surgery, and about two > years since having the teeth removed. He decided on > his own to gradually decrease the Tegretol, and > guess what? His pain is gone! He no longer has to > take anything. The doctors are skeptical, but we > know having those teeth removed is what cured him. > At least it's been documented with the neurologist. > If it isn't too much trouble, I would love to > hear what herbs and things you have had success > with. Thank you very much......) > > Sharon > > > Re: Stomach/Gum Troubles > > > Hi Sharon, I am so sorry to hear about all the > trouble > you have been through with your health! I know how > awful it can be. I was diagnosed with rheumatoid > arthritis last year after my son was born and I > went > through a terrible time with it. I also came down > with > something called a salivary stone- similar to a a > kidney or gallstone only it forms in the salivary > duct. It got infected, blew up to the size of a > golf > ball and turned into pain that was worse than > childbirth. > > I have been seeing a holistic doctor that ran many > tests on me, some of which you may want to > consider > looking into. One of the most important ones was a > chelated induced heavy metal test that showed that > I > had high amounts of mercury and lead in my body. I > also did other tests that showed that I had a mild > case of leaky gut, high Estrogen, and parasites. > I have since had all my amalgam fillings removed, > and > have been undergoing chelation therapy using DMSA > for > the last 7 months. I have also been on many > different > herbs and vitamins and if you are interested in > knowing specifically which ones I'll put a list > together for you. I read Dr. 's book and > about a > month ago I started zapping. I have not started > her > exact liver / kidney, and parasite cleanses, but I > have been doing similar cleanses that my holistic > doctors have advised me to do. > I have to say that since I've started zapping I > have > noticed huge improvements. In fact, there are days > when I feel almost completely symptom free! It > seems > miraculous considering only six months ago there > were > days when I could barely walk and write. > The road between last year and now has been very > long > and hard and it has taken a lot of research and > many > different types of therapies to get through it - > acupuncture, colonics, massage, infrared saunas > (to > help detox the heavy metals). I try to stay as > patient > as I can, stay in touch with others that have > healed > holistically,and stay positive- there is never a > doubt > in my mind that I'm not going to get through this! > I > realize it took a long time for my body to get > this > way, it's not going to heal overnight! > I don't know if you have amalgam fillings, or root > canals, or if you have been checked for heavy > metals > but I think focusing on those things have been > instrumental in my healing process. > Please let me know if you have any questions about > some of the things I am doing. > You are very brave to be trying the things you are > doing!!! > All the best! > > > P.S.- same time last year I was scheduled to have > my > salivary duct surgically removed and at the last > minute I opted against it. The doctor said it > would be > a chronic problem and I would have chronic > infections, > but so far, knock wood, I seem to be okay. > > > --- Sharon Beverly <natesse@...> wrote: > > > Hello all: > > > > It's been about 4 months now since I followed > the > > protocol for parasite cleanse, bowel > cleanse, > > kidney cleanse, and liver cleanse. Although > > successful, I developed a stuck stone a few days > > after the liver flush, and was quite ill for > some > > weeks after until I managed to get it to pass, > not > > to mention the horrors inflicted upon my stomach > and > > colon by the Epsom salts. > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Hey : Well, it's not stones-thank God! It is pus-filled ulcers-YUCK! The traditional MD says virus, I say not. I'm trying to run all this through my mind, and my brain is so foggy right now it's hard to separate the relevant details from the extraneous ones. However, I think this may be related to a Candida die-off because of the 5 day fast. The migraine flare-up is definitely related to a mineral imbalance from me overloading my system with the magnesiusm/calcium while fasting. I really hope that the alternative doctor can help me sort things out and get on the right track. Thanks for taking the time to right up a list. if it's too much trouble, don't worry about it, OK? Sharon Re: Stomach/Gum Troubles > > > Hi Sharon, I am so sorry to hear about all the > trouble > you have been through with your health! I know how > awful it can be. I was diagnosed with rheumatoid > arthritis last year after my son was born and I > went > through a terrible time with it. I also came down > with > something called a salivary stone- similar to a a > kidney or gallstone only it forms in the salivary > duct. It got infected, blew up to the size of a > golf > ball and turned into pain that was worse than > childbirth. > > I have been seeing a holistic doctor that ran many > tests on me, some of which you may want to > consider > looking into. One of the most important ones was a > chelated induced heavy metal test that showed that > I > had high amounts of mercury and lead in my body. I > also did other tests that showed that I had a mild > case of leaky gut, high Estrogen, and parasites. > I have since had all my amalgam fillings removed, > and > have been undergoing chelation therapy using DMSA > for > the last 7 months. I have also been on many > different > herbs and vitamins and if you are interested in > knowing specifically which ones I'll put a list > together for you. I read Dr. 's book and > about a > month ago I started zapping. I have not started > her > exact liver / kidney, and parasite cleanses, but I > have been doing similar cleanses that my holistic > doctors have advised me to do. > I have to say that since I've started zapping I > have > noticed huge improvements. In fact, there are days > when I feel almost completely symptom free! It > seems > miraculous considering only six months ago there > were > days when I could barely walk and write. > The road between last year and now has been very > long > and hard and it has taken a lot of research and > many > different types of therapies to get through it - > acupuncture, colonics, massage, infrared saunas > (to > help detox the heavy metals). I try to stay as > patient > as I can, stay in touch with others that have > healed > holistically,and stay positive- there is never a > doubt > in my mind that I'm not going to get through this! > I > realize it took a long time for my body to get > this > way, it's not going to heal overnight! > I don't know if you have amalgam fillings, or root > canals, or if you have been checked for heavy > metals > but I think focusing on those things have been > instrumental in my healing process. > Please let me know if you have any questions about > some of the things I am doing. > You are very brave to be trying the things you are > doing!!! > All the best! > > > P.S.- same time last year I was scheduled to have > my > salivary duct surgically removed and at the last > minute I opted against it. The doctor said it > would be > a chronic problem and I would have chronic > infections, > but so far, knock wood, I seem to be okay. > > > --- Sharon Beverly <natesse@...> wrote: > > > Hello all: > > > > It's been about 4 months now since I followed > the > > protocol for parasite cleanse, bowel > cleanse, > > kidney cleanse, and liver cleanse. Although > > successful, I developed a stuck stone a few days > > after the liver flush, and was quite ill for > some > > weeks after until I managed to get it to pass, > not > > to mention the horrors inflicted upon my stomach > and > > colon by the Epsom salts. > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Hi guys: Yup, I use colloidal silver. I think I'll hold off on anymore speculation until after I see the doctor on Tuesday and sort things out with blood and hair analysis. I followed the liver flush protocol to a tee. Unfortunately, since were all different, there is no guarantee that every person will achieve the same uneventful sucess that most people do achieve, although mine was successful in terms of stones passed. In hindsight, I have learned that my troubles with the stuck stone and toxicity were related to not properly cleansing my bowls after the flush. I followed the protocol outlined in Hulda's book, and no mention was made of needing to specifically cleanse the bowels post-flush, which is why I failed to do so. Her emphasis was on the kidneys. Sharon Re: Stomach/Gum Troubles sharon have you ever heard of colloidal silver? it is truly a wonderful product , it may help you with the bacteria that is causing your detal pain. my boyfriend used to have cronic sinus infection and using colloidal silver got rid of them for good. gargle with it suck it through your teeth and then swallow it .. stick with clarks program. take the herbs. keep zapping. did you do her liver cleanse properly? you shouldnt have had those problems if you followed it exactly. we've done a dozen of them with great results and no problems. m & a Sharon Beverly <natesse@...> wrote: Hello all: It's been about 4 months now since I followed the protocol for parasite cleanse, bowel cleanse, kidney cleanse, and liver cleanse. Although successful, I developed a stuck stone a few days after the liver flush, and was quite ill for some weeks after until I managed to get it to pass, not to mention the horrors inflicted upon my stomach and colon by the Epsom salts. That was my first flush, and I have not done another one yet. I've been trying to get my body in better shape first, and I've used a natural fiber herbal colon cleansne as well as Oxypowder. I used it for about 4 weeks over a month ago. I gained alot of weight while taking a drug called Effexor XR daily for my severe migraine variant. It also casued me to sweat profusely and have hot flashes and it raised my heart rate and blood pressure to dangerous levels, not to mention the expense, so I quit taking it several months back when I bought Dr. 's book and decided to clean house. My migraine symptoms are active now from the wet weather here in Tampa, but mild at best comparatively, for which I am thankful, but now I am experiencing new problems that are getting worse. Perhaps someone can offer wise counsel. I've been slowly losing weight, but I've developed monthly migraines now, and along with it I have a few days each month where my mood becomes very dark, and I eat like a horse to go along with my headaches, and I gain most of the weight back. I've been taking CoEnzyme Q10, Riboflavin, Magnesium/Calcium, and Feverfew, all of which are supposed to help with the migraine problem. I suppose they do, because it used to be much worse every day, not just in monthly cycles. Now I am really getting depressed because of this vicious cycle I'm in. I decided to fast and pray for 5 days three weeks ago. It was very beneficial overall, but it appears to have given my stomach ulcer a chance to become active again. I had GERD symptoms terribly during the fast, but I ignored it and drank more water. Now, every time I eat, my stomach hurts real bad, and sometimes I even get hot, dizzy, and feel faint from the pain after eating. I get stabbing pains when my tummy is empty as well. My gut is irritable and inflamed, too, and I'm constipated and gassy, which is new. I've never had a problem with constipation except for when taking certain medications that can cause constipation. I also have a long history of severe gingivitis, and lately when I wake up in the morning my tongue is swollen, and heavily coated, and I have little tender red spots all around the edges. My throat is sore and scratchy, and this morning I'm losing my voice. I've been aggressively battling this for years, but the bone and gum loss has still progressed. At this point, I'd love to have all my lower teeth removed and get dentures just to relieve the constant pain. My mother lost all her teeth by the time she was 45. I'm 40. My sister has been able to have expensive dental work done regularly to keep up with the problem, but even she has marked gum recession when compared to the average, healthy gum. I feel so crappy all the time now. I am so fatigued, and the left side of my body, arms, legs, and all, are back to hurting all the time. That goes along with my left-sided migraines, and I've also got carpal tunnel syndrome on the left. I have spent so much time and money on this, and I'm growing weary of taking all these herbs and supplements, and doing all these things, and I'm still developing problems. Do I need to go on some sort of strict diet? Could there be a connection between my sore gums and my sore tummy? I have to be careful with medications, even herbals, because I'm hyper-sensitive, and they can cause me to experience severe migraines. I tried taking St. 's Wort for the monthly mood, headache thing, and it made me even sicker, which is not uncommon for me. The oils (fish, flax seed, sunflower, evening primrose) make my stomach hurt, too, even when taken with food. I'm sure I left something out, but this is a start.......) Thanks for listening, and any advice will be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Sharon Beverly Tampa, Florida USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 Dear Sharon, I know this is a late reply to your message from June 6, but I was waiting to get some answers concerning my case before I responded. You may remember me because I corresponded briefly with you before, some it privately. As I said before, so many of your symptoms are(were) similar to mine: migraines, GERD symptoms, dizziness, fatigue, and body aches. Like you, I had tried various cleanses (bowel, parasite, liver) which often made me feel worse instead of better. Finally, after several years of suffering, finally -- I have tested positive to SOMETHING! Previous to this all my medical tests kept turning up normal. I tested positive to two co-infections of Lyme disease (Bartonella and Ehrlichia) and positive to a slew of molds. I probably also have the Lyme bacteria itself even though the test was negative (Lyme is famous for being difficult to detect). My wonderful doctor has started me a two new alternative therapies for Lyme disease (artemisinin, salt/C protocol). I have made unbelievable progress in the the last four weeks. I feel better know than I have in almost four years. I think taking huge doses of probiotics and identifying/eliminating allergenic foods has helped. If you're still having problems, you might want to consider Lyme disease. Don't even bother seeing a regular M.D.; find a doctor who specializes in Lyme disease. If you want help with this, please contact me privately. Wishing you good health, Eureka, CA Stomach/Gum Troubles > Hello all: > > It's been about 4 months now since I followed the protocol for parasite cleanse, bowel cleanse, kidney cleanse, and liver cleanse. Although successful, I developed a stuck stone a few days after the liver flush, and was quite ill for some weeks after until I managed to get it to pass, not to mention the horrors inflicted upon my stomach and colon by the Epsom salts. > That was my first flush, and I have not done another one yet. I've been trying to get my body in better shape first, and I've used a natural fiber herbal colon cleansne as well as Oxypowder. I used it for about 4 weeks over a month ago. > I gained alot of weight while taking a drug called Effexor XR daily for my severe migraine variant. It also casued me to sweat profusely and have hot flashes and it raised my heart rate and blood pressure to dangerous levels, not to mention the expense, so I quit taking it several months back when I bought Dr. 's book and decided to clean house. > My migraine symptoms are active now from the wet weather here in Tampa, but mild at best comparatively, for which I am thankful, but now I am experiencing new problems that are getting worse. Perhaps someone can offer wise counsel. > I've been slowly losing weight, but I've developed monthly migraines now, and along with it I have a few days each month where my mood becomes very dark, and I eat like a horse to go along with my headaches, and I gain most of the weight back. I've been taking CoEnzyme Q10, Riboflavin, Magnesium/Calcium, and Feverfew, all of which are supposed to help with the migraine problem. I suppose they do, because it used to be much worse every day, not just in monthly cycles. Now I am really getting depressed because of this vicious cycle I'm in. > I decided to fast and pray for 5 days three weeks ago. It was very beneficial overall, but it appears to have given my stomach ulcer a chance to become active again. I had GERD symptoms terribly during the fast, but I ignored it and drank more water. Now, every time I eat, my stomach hurts real bad, and sometimes I even get hot, dizzy, and feel faint from the pain after eating. I get stabbing pains when my tummy is empty as well. My gut is irritable and inflamed, too, and I'm constipated and gassy, which is new. I've never had a problem with constipation except for when taking certain medications that can cause constipation. > I also have a long history of severe gingivitis, and lately when I wake up in the morning my tongue is swollen, and heavily coated, and I have little tender red spots all around the edges. My throat is sore and scratchy, and this morning I'm losing my voice. > I've been aggressively battling this for years, but the bone and gum loss has still progressed. At this point, I'd love to have all my lower teeth removed and get dentures just to relieve the constant pain. My mother lost all her teeth by the time she was 45. I'm 40. My sister has been able to have expensive dental work done regularly to keep up with the problem, but even she has marked gum recession when compared to the average, healthy gum. > I feel so crappy all the time now. I am so fatigued, and the left side of my body, arms, legs, and all, are back to hurting all the time. That goes along with my left-sided migraines, and I've also got carpal tunnel syndrome on the left. I have spent so much time and money on this, and I'm growing weary of taking all these herbs and supplements, and doing all these things, and I'm still developing problems. Do I need to go on some sort of strict diet? Could there be a connection between my sore gums and my sore tummy? > I have to be careful with medications, even herbals, because I'm hyper-sensitive, and they can cause me to experience severe migraines. I tried taking St. 's Wort for the monthly mood, headache thing, and it made me even sicker, which is not uncommon for me. The oils (fish, flax seed, sunflower, evening primrose) make my stomach hurt, too, even when taken with food. > I'm sure I left something out, but this is a start.......) Thanks for listening, and any advice will be greatly appreciated. > > Sincerely, > Sharon Beverly > Tampa, Florida USA > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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