Fw: Anthrax vaccine

[Guest guest]

List:

Following is a newspaper article on ph situation. Please keep

Joe and his family in your thoughts and prayers.

Also, would like to mention that the ABC News aired the segment with Jeff

Bettendorf this evening. Seemed to be one of the best yet, the closing

thoughts were: The Secretary of the Navy has disciplined 23 sailors aboard

the USS Roosevelt for refusing anthrax inoculations however, he has yet to

receive his inoculations!!!!

20/20 will air the story tomorrow evening, I know there has been some

confusion about the air date, ABC announced it on the ABC News this

evening.

Lori

(303) 697-0508

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| From: karin schumacher <via@...>

| DrSDuve@...; lori greenleaf <david.greenleaf@...>

| Subject: Re: Anthrax Vaccine

| Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 3:30 PM

|

| the best person to contact for information is lori greenleaf

| <david.greenleaf@...>

|

| DrSDuve@... wrote:

| >

| > Is NVIC involved in stopping this?

| > What can the average military person do legally to prevent this from

happening

| > to them?

| > Thanks for your time,

| > Dr. Duve

| >

| > Controversy Persists Over Pentagon Anthrax Vaccine

| > WASHINGTON, Mar 09 (NYT Syndicate) - Army Spec. ph , 22, of

Austin,

| > Texas, says he " had a bad feeling " about the anthrax vaccine he was

required

| > to take a year ago when the Army sent him to Kuwait.

| >

| > " I told the medic I didn't want to take it, but he said, 'It's okay.

Take it

| > and don't worry about it,' " said Friday in a telephone interview

from

| > the Georgia Army hospital where he was sent because of a succession of

| > increasingly serious medical problems that he and his family are

convinced

| > were caused by the vaccine.

| >

| > said other Army officials gave him an even stronger reason for

taking

| > the controversial vaccine.

| >

| > " We were in formation and they announced to everyone that if we refused

to

| > take it they would give us an Article 15 (misconduct proceeding) and

the MPs

| > would hold us down while they gave it to us anyhow, " he said.

| >

| > took the vaccinations, four of them, beginning March 17, 1998.

And a day

| > or two after receiving each vaccination, he said, he became ill,

beginning

| > with " flu-like symptoms " following the first and growing progressively

worse

| > with subsequent shots.

| >

| > In addition to the aches and fever, said the shots have been

followed by

| > sometimes bloody diarrhea, terrible headaches and occasional fainting

spells.

| > He recently was moved from Ft. Benning, Ga., where his outfit is based,

to

| > Eisenhower Army Medical Center at Ft. Gordon, near Augusta, Ga. Scans

revealed

| > a " mass " behind his sinuses and surgery has been scheduled to drain it,

| > said.

| >

| > Army doctors don't believe Spec. ' medical problems have anything

to do

| > with the anthrax shots. His mother, Mrs. of Austin,

responds to

| > that with a mother's logic. " He went in the Army healthy, and he's sick

now, "

| > she said.

| >

| > She said she also is concerned that the Army is about to discharge her

son for

| > medical reasons and leave him with the burden of lingering medical

costs.

| >

| > According to the Food and Drug Administration-approved label for the

vaccine,

| > fewer than 0.2 percent of recipients of the material, which is

manufactured

| > from non-virulent strains of anthrax bacteria, experience " malaise and

| > lassitude. "

| >

| > " Chills and fever have been reported in only a few cases, " the label

states.

| > " In such instances, immunization should be discontinued. "

| >

| > is one of 209,949 persons -- including Secretary of Defense

| > Cohen -- who had received at least one of the six injections required

to

| > induce immunity to anthrax as of last week, said Pentagon Office of

Health

| > Affairs spokesman Jim .

| >

| > Before the five-year immunization campaign is over, 2.4 million active

duty

| > and reserve personnel are to be vaccinated against the dread disease.

Military

| > personnel are being vaccinated because of concern in the Defense

Department

| > about the emerging threat of biochemical warfare. Government officials

have

| > stated anthrax was being used by Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and

some

| > terrorist organizations to in efforts to develop biological weapons.

| >

| > said the campaign did not begin until the safety, purity and

potency of

| > the vaccine had been verified.

| >

| > ' case has been picked up by activists who have declared an

Internet war

| > on the Defense Department anthrax immunization program. In addition to

posting

| > Food and Drug Administration documents that raise questions about the

| > practices at the Michigan plant where the vaccine was produced,

opponents

| > publicize stories like those of Spec. and promote the views of

some

| > scientists who question the safety and efficacy of the vaccine.

| >

| > In addition, they have promoted the causes of active duty personnel who

have

| > been punished for refusing to take it.

| >

| > Last week, the Air Force announced that an airman at Air Force

Base in

| > California was being discharged under " other than honorable conditions "

for

| > disobeying a direct order to take the vaccine.

| >

| > Airman First Class Bettendorf had a " choirboy " service record

but was

| > given an excessive punishment because top Air Force officers were angry

over

| > the publicity his case generated, his lawyer charged. Typically, troops

that

| > refuse to take the vaccine are punished with a demotion and a month's

| > restriction to base when they refuse the vaccine a first time, said the

| > lawyer, Mark Zaid. He said the second refusal often results in a

general

| > discharge under honorable conditions.

| >

| > Zaid said he receives several calls a week from U.S. military personnel

around

| > the globe asking him what will happen to them if they refuse to take

the

| > vaccination series. Some Air Force Reserve pilots in California and

| > Connecticut have chosen to get out of the reserves instead of taking

the

| > shots.

| >

| > The vaccine was manufactured in a Lansing, Mich., laboratory originally

owned

| > by the Michigan State Health Department.

| >

| > FDA officials said a routine inspection of the facility in 1996 found

" good

| > management practices " violations in connection with production of

vaccine in

| > general and anthrax vaccine in particular. As a result, the FDA

notified the

| > department that it intended to revoke the federal license of the

facility,

| > then known as the Michigan Biologic Products Institute.

| >

| > The state presented a plan for correcting the deficiencies, said

,

| > an official of the FDA Office of Regulatory Affairs. A follow-up visit

found

| > some of the problems had been corrected and some had not, said,

so the

| > FDA notified the state that the facility still was not in compliance

with

| > federal standards.

| >

| > " Six months later, when we visited the site again, we were not about to

note

| > with any accuracy how much progress had been made, simply because the

company

| > had stopped manufacturing anthrax vaccine, " said.

| >

| > Since then, the state has sold the Michigan Biologic Products Institute

to a

| > private company, Bioport Inc., which is headed by retired Navy Adm.

| > Crowe Jr., a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

| >

| > Meanwhile, is convinced that other mothers of military

personnel

| > are hearing of problems with the vaccine and don't know where to turn.

She

| > urged them to study an Internet site,

| >

| >

|

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| We Must Have The Freedom To Choose & Respect Everyone's Choice

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| Any information obtained here is not to be construed as medical

| OR legal advice. The decision to vaccinate and how you

| implement that decision is yours and yours alone.

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[Guest guest]

My original message to LaLeche was sent via their website. It basically

sited the DoD website and expressed surprise at breastfeeding moms being

able to get the anthrax vaccine. I asked for confirmation. Here is the

response I received.

Anthrax Vaccine

> Dear Sara,

> Specifically about anthrax:

> From the National Center for Infectious Diseases, CDC,

> website:www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/anthrax.html 5/8/98:

> " The vaccine should only be administered to healthy men and women from

> 18 to 65 years of age since investigations to date have been conducted

> exclusively in that population. Because it is not known whether the

> anthrax vaccine can cause fetal harm, pregnant women should not be

> vaccinated.

>

> The anthrax vaccine for humans licensed for use in the United States is

> a cell-free filtrate vaccine, which means it uses dead bacteria as

> opposed to live bacteria...The vaccine is reported to be 93% effective

> in protecting against cutaneous anthrax. The anthrax vaccine was

> developed and is manufactured by the Michigan Biologic Products

> Institute, Lansing, Michigan. "

>

> And in general, from the Jan 28, 1994 Morbidity and Mortality Weekly

> Report:

> " Neither killed nor live vaccines affect the safety of breast-feeding

> for mothers or infants. Breast-feeding does not adversely affect

> immunization and is not a contraindication for any vaccine...Inactivated

> or killed vaccines do not multiply within the body, therefore

> they should pose no special risk for mothers who are breast-feeding or

> for their infants.

>

> Hope that this helps.

>

> Carol Huotari

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is very interesting in view of postings on another List concerning

mothers " catching " polio from newly immunized children after changing

diapers, etc.

Anthrax Vaccine

>

>

> > Dear Sara,

> > Specifically about anthrax:

> > From the National Center for Infectious Diseases, CDC,

> > website:www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/anthrax.html 5/8/98:

> > " The vaccine should only be administered to healthy men and women from

> > 18 to 65 years of age since investigations to date have been conducted

> > exclusively in that population. Because it is not known whether the

> > anthrax vaccine can cause fetal harm, pregnant women should not be

> > vaccinated.

> >

> > The anthrax vaccine for humans licensed for use in the United States is

> > a cell-free filtrate vaccine, which means it uses dead bacteria as

> > opposed to live bacteria...The vaccine is reported to be 93% effective

> > in protecting against cutaneous anthrax. The anthrax vaccine was

> > developed and is manufactured by the Michigan Biologic Products

> > Institute, Lansing, Michigan. "

> >

> > And in general, from the Jan 28, 1994 Morbidity and Mortality Weekly

> > Report:

> > " Neither killed nor live vaccines affect the safety of breast-feeding

> > for mothers or infants. Breast-feeding does not adversely affect

> > immunization and is not a contraindication for any vaccine...Inactivated

> > or killed vaccines do not multiply within the body, therefore

> > they should pose no special risk for mothers who are breast-feeding or

> > for their infants.

> >

> > Hope that this helps.

> >

> > Carol Huotari

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> > Subject: Fwd: [sprayno] anthrax vaccine - read before you take it

> http://www.freetimes.com/issues/1008/features-coverstory.php3

here: There are many alternative treatments for anthrax infections,

and also according to Dr. Mercola that chance of spreading anthrax widely is

very, very slim. Very slim indeed. I am counting on my nontoxic,

handy-dandy colloidal silver. Colloidal silver particles are so small they

pass easily out of the body and you don't turn blue or gray from it. (Don't

tell anyone I told you! And please don't forward this post without my

permission. The Quackbuster and other similar interests get after me in a

big way when I advocate colloidal silver.)

[Guest guest]

Dear Air:

I first started the Anthrax shot's in 1998/99. I had five when the USAF

stated we did need them anymore because we were not being activated any

longer. I would have hives over the injection site pop up, redness, large

knots and the skin over the injection site would be bright red and it would

be very hot to the touch. I would get this reaction sometimes months later

after an injection. I started noticing some strength issues, etc., went to

my Dr who ended up sending me to a Neurologist. He ran a battery of tests,

and finally a DNA test because there was no HX of any issues I was

experiencing in my family. Finally, I was diagnosed with CIDP (Chronic

Inflammatory Demylinating Polyneuropathy). I asked him if the Anthrax

vaccinations I had taken were the cause of CIDP. He stated I would have to

ask the Air Force, but that CIDP was an acquired neuropathy. I reported my

issues to the medical clinic where I had received my injections and they did

a " line of duty determination " plus they filled out paper work they are

required to file under federal law with regards to adverse reactions to the

Anthrax injections. I later found out that the Air Force never filed my

paper work with the government or CDC as required by Federal Law. I got my

" line of duty determination " and the Air Force ran ever test I can think of,

talked with my civilian Neurologist, they all shared test results and the

Air Force stated they could not say that I did have CIDP or that I did not

have CIDP.

Based on their findings they did start processing me out of the USAFR, but

since I had a retirement date prior to the date on my medical board, they my

medical retirement.

Once I was out, I fought with the VA for approximately 2.5 years before they

would give me any disability for the CIDP. I was given 30% for it. I

continued to fight with them and finally I found where the VA's on legal

counsel stated that claims were compensable under my circumstances. I was

ordered to go to a VA Clinic and see a Dr. Was evaluated, asked questions

and she did a very good hands on examination and was eventually awarded a

100% disability

I am affected by the CIDP I got from the Anthrax vaccinations and it effects

my quality of life. I stumble unexpectedly when I walk and I am about to

have to start wearing braces on my lower legs to get the stamina and

sup[port I( need to be able to stand for various periods of time because it

effects my feet, ankles and lower legs more than my hands and arms. My wife

has to open jars about 60% of the time because I do not have the strength to

turn/open the lid's. I take IVIG once a day, about every 4 to 5-weeks and

it takes approximately 6.5 hrs. Without it, my symptoms get worse. Oh, it

is about $18,500 a session.

Oh, by the way, did I tell you that my personnel files have to this date,

never shown up @ ARPC or the Personnel Record in Kansas City or wherever

their final resting place is supposed to be. So that have not been seen

since May 31, 2004. Others I have talked to have said the same thing.

You have to fight the system and the Government they best you can. File a

" adverse reaction " complaint with your medical unit where you received the

vaccinations and get a " line of duty determination. " Also get you shot

records and get all the batch information for each injection you can get. I

found out that 2 of my 5 vaccinations did come from batches that had been

found to be " bad " by the government.

If you have one and can afford it, see a civilian physician and Neurologist

and get them do a workup, and fight, fight, fight for your rights because as

I found, no one seems to care, but you.

First Sergeant

USAF Retired

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of AIR

Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 3:29 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: anthrax vaccine

I've been in the Air Force for 16 years and when I rec'd my fifth shot I

started feeling flu like symptoms. The military which I have seen many

doctors and all they said was it was a auto immune disease and it takes six

years or more for this to run through my system. I even went to the

infectious disease doctor at University of Michigan and they couldnt help me

either. No one can help all they have said was to concentrate on stopping

some of the pain with meds. Its frustrating.

> >

> > From: code52@... <code52%40webtv.net> <code52@...<code52%40webtv.net>

> > >

> > Subject: Re: Fw: anthrax vaccine

> > <mailto:%40>

<%40>

> > Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 11:55 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Happy 2011 Gretchen and all at group !

> > (from Jim, USAF Vietnam Vet)

> > *

> > The book is a great idea.

> > *

> > It seems to me that interest in this group's main purpose has fallen

> > off in the past months. Vaccine damage to people is continuing to affect

> > more people daily, not less.

> > Why is the Anthrax vaccine STILL MANDATORY for a reduced military in

> > Iraq ? No threat has emerged either in Iraq nor Afganistan nor anywhere

> > else to date. The absurdity of pretending a threat exists can ONLY SERVE

> > to raise profits for vaccine producers.

> > The ENTIRE VACCINE INDUSTRY is

> > suspect.

> > *

> > In 1999, the FDA " urged " ALL VACCINE

> > PRODUCERS to remove THIMEROSAL,

> > the ethyl-mercury poison, cumulative brain-toxin additive,

> > from ALL VACCINES,

> > and these ARROGANT VACCINE PRODUCERS refused to do so.

> > No reason was ever given for his absurd refusal.

> > *

> > I suggest a course of action.

> > Every member of the group can regularly send emails to radio talk shows

> > like

> > ElRushBo@... <ElRushBo%40eibnet.com>, Rush Limbaugh,

> > to force this urgent subject back out into the current main stream media

> > discussion.

> > .......Bumperstickers or signs:

> > My sign in the back window of my car reads:

> > ...FLU SHOT CONTAINS THIMEROSAL MERCURY....

> > *

> > IF WE CAN kill their revenue for vaccines

> > by telling the truth to everyone, lets do it.

> > *

> > If YOU HEAR about a local " FREE FLU SHOT " giveaway near you, then

> > make-up a yard sign and put it nearby the event on the night before;

> > WARN PEOPLE with a large notice like:

> > ...AUTISM ALERT ! .....

> > then a msge. like the simple TRUTH above. [ or, ...ANTHRAX VACCINE FOR

> > MILITARY, WHY ? ...]

> > *

> > If you're even MORE COURAGEOUS,

> > make copies of vaccine dangers and pass these out at " FREE SHOT " events

> > at churches or wherever th poison is being delivered to unsuspecting

> > children and adults.

> > *

> > Lets not just fade away !

> > I will not give up.

> > *

> > Jim in Kansas City

> >

> >