Guest guest Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 I don't know that you can protect any part of your body or organs if you are willing to take harmful drugs. You need to get educated on the ways to cure cancer that don't include poisoning your body. Pick up any book by Dr. Hulda and learn about the alternative ways to treat cancer. I have yet to meet a person who went through chemo, that did not have a secondary cancer caused by the drugs that were supposed to cure them. Diane n1n465 wrote: > Hi, > I had chemotheraphy with doxorubicin for 4 x. Then have to have > another chemo with Taxol weekly 12 doses and Herceptin. > My doctor sugest me to get an injection to proteck my eegs. > The problem is the injection they will give in the same time with the > chemoteraphy. Is this realy works to proteck my fertility? > Does anyone know this drugs realy harm my eegs? > thank you > > -- God Bless America! Diane Mackey Lowell, MA Captain , USAFA 2000 Eglin AFB, MC-130 Pilot TDY sandbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 I don't really know for sure, but I tend to agree with Diane. In addition, I don't know if I would be trying to get pregnant while battling cancer. I'll be praying for a complete healing for you. Please keep in touch and let me know how you're doing. I'm a breast cancer survivor. Diane Mackey <dmackey00@...> wrote: I don't know that you can protect any part of your body or organs if you are willing to take harmful drugs. You need to get educated on the ways to cure cancer that don't include poisoning your body. Pick up any book by Dr. Hulda and learn about the alternative ways to treat cancer. I have yet to meet a person who went through chemo, that did not have a secondary cancer caused by the drugs that were supposed to cure them. Diane n1n465 wrote: > Hi, > I had chemotheraphy with doxorubicin for 4 x. Then have to have > another chemo with Taxol weekly 12 doses and Herceptin. > My doctor sugest me to get an injection to proteck my eegs. > The problem is the injection they will give in the same time with the > chemoteraphy. Is this realy works to proteck my fertility? > Does anyone know this drugs realy harm my eegs? > thank you > > -- God Bless America! Diane Mackey Lowell, MA Captain , USAFA 2000 Eglin AFB, MC-130 Pilot TDY sandbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Thank Diane and Lyn for your respond I have Dr. books but get confuse a lot with the protocol. I need a professional to lead me. I even try to corespondent Dr. , but I'm not afforded to go to her clinic. More disappointed when I know the clarck association is not even related to dr.clark. No wonder they couldn't give me information that I need. I'm not try to get pregnant, only afraid that in the future I can't be able to have a child. I can not do the protocol by my self I confused a lot. I asked my oncologist she refused. I try the killing parasite program but then I give to have a surgery because I can not move to " safe water zone " , to have a best result of the program and in meanwhile the tumor already breaks the skin and very pain full. I'd try to get info about physician who's using dr. clark protocol, but all info refer to dr.clark clinic in Mexico. I even have a zapper and syncrometer that I order from dr.clark association. I zapper everyday but realy don't know what to do with the syncrometer. I was desparate and give up to the convetional treatment. Lynn Tilmon <ljtilmon@...> wrote: I don't really know for sure, but I tend to agree with Diane. In addition, I don't know if I would be trying to get pregnant while battling cancer. I'll be praying for a complete healing for you. Please keep in touch and let me know how you're doing. I'm a breast cancer survivor. Diane Mackey <dmackey00@...> wrote: I don't know that you can protect any part of your body or organs if you are willing to take harmful drugs. You need to get educated on the ways to cure cancer that don't include poisoning your body. Pick up any book by Dr. Hulda and learn about the alternative ways to treat cancer. I have yet to meet a person who went through chemo, that did not have a secondary cancer caused by the drugs that were supposed to cure them. Diane n1n465 wrote: > Hi, > I had chemotheraphy with doxorubicin for 4 x. Then have to have > another chemo with Taxol weekly 12 doses and Herceptin. > My doctor sugest me to get an injection to proteck my eegs. > The problem is the injection they will give in the same time with the > chemoteraphy. Is this realy works to proteck my fertility? > Does anyone know this drugs realy harm my eegs? > thank you > > -- God Bless America! Diane Mackey Lowell, MA Captain , USAFA 2000 Eglin AFB, MC-130 Pilot TDY sandbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Ask the questions that you are confused about. That is something we can help with. Diane agust praise wrote: > Thank Diane and Lyn for your respond > > I have Dr. books but get confuse a lot with the protocol. I need > a professional to lead me. I even try to corespondent Dr. , but > I'm not afforded to go to her clinic. More disappointed when I know > the clarck association is not even related to dr.clark. No wonder they > couldn't give me information that I need. I'm not try to get pregnant, > only afraid that in the future I can't be able to have a child. I can > not do the protocol by my self I confused a lot. I asked my oncologist > she refused. I try the killing parasite program but then I give to > have a surgery because I can not move to " safe water zone " , to have a > best result of the program and in meanwhile the tumor already breaks > the skin and very pain full. I'd try to get info about physician who's > using dr. clark protocol, but all info refer to dr.clark clinic in > Mexico. I even have a zapper and syncrometer that I order from > dr.clark association. I zapper everyday but realy don't know what to > do with the > syncrometer. I was desparate and give up to the convetional treatment. > > Lynn Tilmon <ljtilmon@... <mailto:ljtilmon%40>> wrote: > I don't really know for sure, but I tend to agree with Diane. In > addition, I don't know if I would be trying to get pregnant while > battling cancer. I'll be praying for a complete healing for you. > Please keep in touch and let me know how you're doing. I'm a breast > cancer survivor. > > Diane Mackey <dmackey00@... <mailto:dmackey00%40comcast.net>> > wrote: I don't know that you can protect any part of your body or > organs if you > are willing to take harmful drugs. You need to get educated on the ways > to cure cancer that don't include poisoning your body. Pick up any book > by Dr. Hulda and learn about the alternative ways to treat cancer. > > I have yet to meet a person who went through chemo, that did not have a > secondary cancer caused by the drugs that were supposed to cure them. > > Diane > > n1n465 wrote: > > > Hi, > > I had chemotheraphy with doxorubicin for 4 x. Then have to have > > another chemo with Taxol weekly 12 doses and Herceptin. > > My doctor sugest me to get an injection to proteck my eegs. > > The problem is the injection they will give in the same time with the > > chemoteraphy. Is this realy works to proteck my fertility? > > Does anyone know this drugs realy harm my eegs? > > thank you > > > > > > -- > God Bless America! > > Diane Mackey > Lowell, MA > Captain , USAFA 2000 > Eglin AFB, MC-130 Pilot TDY sandbox > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 I can't answer your question, because you didn't say what injection they will give to protect the eggs. This is new to me. Most chemotherapeutic agents are mutagens -- they cause mutations. So clearly the eggs are a concern. Anyway, with conventional medical treatment, this is simply the kind of collateral damage one has to accept. Antioxidants might help somewhat. Niacinamide, too. > > Hi, > I had chemotheraphy with doxorubicin for 4 x. Then have to have > another chemo with Taxol weekly 12 doses and Herceptin. > My doctor sugest me to get an injection to proteck my eegs. > The problem is the injection they will give in the same time with the > chemoteraphy. Is this realy works to proteck my fertility? > Does anyone know this drugs realy harm my eegs? > thank you > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Hi anderson I don't know what's the name about the medicine that can protect my eggs, but it's like to block my body releasing the eegs, I'll asked what medicine they going to use. I told my doctor about starting with the parasite kiling program, and she said ok. So now it's been 5 week since my surgery, my doctors concern because I keep postpone the chemo schedule. I've try the parasite cleansing before and then start the lever cleansing before the surgery, but stop the liver cleansing when I was so much in pain and went to the doctor , they start the chemo right a way. Is that ok to comibine the chemo and parasite kiling program since dr.clark mention that I don't have to stop doing the clinical medicine? It's been a week I have migrane every morning when I wake up and getting worse at the end of the day, and feel exhausted, we use the heater a lot now and I have to open the window to make easy to breath. My migrane was so bad makes me want to vomit. Is there anything could make feel better? Is that heater the cause of my migrane? Thank for all your respond. e_j_anderson <e_j_anderson@...> wrote: I can't answer your question, because you didn't say what injection they will give to protect the eggs. This is new to me. Most chemotherapeutic agents are mutagens -- they cause mutations. So clearly the eggs are a concern. Anyway, with conventional medical treatment, this is simply the kind of collateral damage one has to accept. Antioxidants might help somewhat. Niacinamide, too. > > Hi, > I had chemotheraphy with doxorubicin for 4 x. Then have to have > another chemo with Taxol weekly 12 doses and Herceptin. > My doctor sugest me to get an injection to proteck my eegs. > The problem is the injection they will give in the same time with the > chemoteraphy. Is this realy works to proteck my fertility? > Does anyone know this drugs realy harm my eegs? > thank you > --------------------------------- Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 I'm not a doctor, but I'll just offer some common sense thoughts you can consider and perhaps apply to your situation as you see fit. I think the cleansing is important. Chemo is going to create a lot of dead cells. Chemo hopefully kills cancer cells, but it also usually kills fast-growing normal cells, too. " Chemo " is a generic term -- not all the drugs act the same way. With some chemo drugs there is a risk of heart damage. The point is, chemo can cause a lot of dead cellular material in your system. Anything you can do to help detoxify yourself would be advisable. Drink lots of water. Make sure the bowels move. I personally would probably take antioxidant vitamins, especially vitamin C. Drink fresh vegetable and fruit juices if you can. It seems to me the liver cleanses should help. You'll just have to try various things and see what works best for you. Did you say what stage your cancer is? I, II, or III? You can use the zapper too. And use Hulda's parasite herbs. I don't know. You have to listen to your body and judge how much you can handle. If the body has to detoxify from killing parasites and dead cells from chemo, maybe that would be too much at once? Maybe someone else has gone through this and could give you better advice. You are an individual. No one else is like you. Listen to your body. I will add one more thing. I came across some info yesterday, and I have not had time to investigate it. But in Germany, they have tested the use of pancreatic enzymes in the treatment of cancer. People who took enzymes had better survival in the long run. The name of the enzymes are " Wobe-Mugos " but these are usually available only in Germany. In USA there is a similar enzyme from the same company, " Wobenzym. " I read a book a long time ago, Enzyme Therapy by Max Wolf. It is long out of print. He used pancreatic enzymes in animals. He would inject the enzyme preparation into animal cancers. It dissolved the tumors without harming healthy cells. There is good reason to believe that enzymes might be effective against cancer. (I know a few people who treated their cancer with enzymes, diet, and detoxification, without normal medical treatment for cancer.) This may be something you want to look up and read about. > > > > Hi, > > I had chemotheraphy with doxorubicin for 4 x. Then have to have > > another chemo with Taxol weekly 12 doses and Herceptin. > > My doctor sugest me to get an injection to proteck my eegs. > > The problem is the injection they will give in the same time with the > > chemoteraphy. Is this realy works to proteck my fertility? > > Does anyone know this drugs realy harm my eegs? > > thank you > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the new .com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Enzymes have been very useful in cancer patients. In the US they are hard to find and the only ones readily available are pancreatic enzmes and Bromelean. Other useful alternative treatmenst for cancer are: Macrobiotic diet (NOT EASY TO DO) Fish oil / omega 3 oils (fish or flaxseed oil) Seaweed (go to a sushi bar and get the tuna roll) --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Hi, enderson After the surgery doctor according to the pathology report, base on the size the stage is III but according to PET scan no evidenced that spread to other organ, although they found a lump in one of 4 lymph node they took. After 6 week from the surgery, I felt the shooting pain like all over in my right chest where they took out the tumor, in my armpit, in my right shoulder. I rather try Dr. protocol or any natural way to kill the cancer cell, but I just can not count the treatment just by my knowledge, I mean I need a professional who fit to Dr. method, I've been searching for that, never success. Do you know an herbalist that I can go to, I live in MD I search in here Washington DC area and spoke to many doctor that I know about Dr. methods but no one know and don't want to know even one doctor told me those was illegal. I don't care if that method is illegal in my area, I just want to stop the chorus of the conventional treatment. It's seem I'm not going to end up just miss one breast, but also the other and my fertility,(recent blood report, I'm in menopause level), I don't know if the other organ already damage. All I know I breathless easily and tired just to walk fast. I keep asking the doctor all I the answer I found everything looks normal to them, so they don't really know why, obviously they just put me to one other test and another but the result never confirm my complaint. In mean while I think my body suffered from those medical test. I just desparate to have Dr. protocol but I can not do it myself, honestly I've tried and when I'm so much in pain I just don't know what to do the only confirmation I have Dr. CLark's book and that's just is not work well with while I'm in pain, confuse, panic and ect. Then obviously I go to my doctor which would blame me for taking all those whitout they knowledge. I just need a profesional who can do it with me and told me what to do next. Is there any info for what I need right now it would appreciate a lot. Thank you so much. I'm not a doctor, but I'll just offer some common sense thoughts you can consider and perhaps apply to your situation as you see fit. I think the cleansing is important. Chemo is going to create a lot of dead cells. Chemo hopefully kills cancer cells, but it also usually kills fast-growing normal cells, too. " Chemo " is a generic term -- not all the drugs act the same way. With some chemo drugs there is a risk of heart damage. The point is, chemo can cause a lot of dead cellular material in your system. Anything you can do to help detoxify yourself would be advisable. Drink lots of water. Make sure the bowels move. I personally would probably take antioxidant vitamins, especially vitamin C. Drink fresh vegetable and fruit juices if you can. It seems to me the liver cleanses should help. You'll just have to try various things and see what works best for you. Did you say what stage your cancer is? I, II, or III? You can use the zapper too. And use Hulda's parasite herbs. I don't know. You have to listen to your body and judge how much you can handle. If the body has to detoxify from killing parasites and dead cells from chemo, maybe that would be too much at once? Maybe someone else has gone through this and could give you better advice. You are an individual. No one else is like you. Listen to your body. I will add one more thing. I came across some info yesterday, and I have not had time to investigate it. But in Germany, they have tested the use of pancreatic enzymes in the treatment of cancer. People who took enzymes had better survival in the long run. The name of the enzymes are " Wobe-Mugos " but these are usually available only in Germany. In USA there is a similar enzyme from the same company, " Wobenzym. " I read a book a long time ago, Enzyme Therapy by Max Wolf. It is long out of print. He used pancreatic enzymes in animals. He would inject the enzyme preparation into animal cancers. It dissolved the tumors without harming healthy cells. There is good reason to believe that enzymes might be effective against cancer. (I know a few people who treated their cancer with enzymes, diet, and detoxification, without normal medical treatment for cancer.) This may be something you want to look up and read about. > > > > Hi, > > I had chemotheraphy with doxorubicin for 4 x. Then have to have > > another chemo with Taxol weekly 12 doses and Herceptin. > > My doctor sugest me to get an injection to proteck my eegs. > > The problem is the injection they will give in the same time with the > > chemoteraphy. Is this realy works to proteck my fertility? > > Does anyone know this drugs realy harm my eegs? > > thank you > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the new .com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 I'm sorry you're suffering these things and cannot find adequate counsel on implementing the program. The pain and shortness of breath you describe are common side effects of taxol. The other drug is an antibody drug -- if this drug is having an immunological effect, which is its intended use, then your immune system may be producing lots of substances that make you feel sick. (It is often true that the unpleasant symptoms we feel when we are sick are not from the disease, but from our body's defensive response to the disease. A perfect example would be mononucleosis. The symptoms of that disease seem to be largely associated with the immune response as the white blood cells ratched up their function in response to the virus.) It doesn't help to know that you are normal when you feel weak and in pain. Lots of us have suffered terribly too, from one cause or another. I at least have some empathy for your situation. I used to know a nutritional counsellor who knew and used the program. He no longer lives or works in my area. If I can think of some way to find out if someone near you is competent and can advise/guide you, I will post to this list. Right now I'm afraid I have nothing to offer. How many more weeks of treatment are scheduled? Remember you are in charge. You can stop or postpone these treatments if you feel they are doing you more harm than good. If you don't have any detectable cancer currently, I think you have reason to be optimistic. Even if you find someone to guide you through the program, all healers have their limitations in knowledge and skill. There is no magic solution, and I'd guess that it is most likely you will have to do a combination of things if you want to get healthy and stay that way. > > Hi, enderson > > After the surgery doctor according to the pathology report, base on the size the stage is III but according to PET scan no evidenced that spread to other organ, although they found a lump in one of 4 lymph node they took. > After 6 week from the surgery, I felt the shooting pain like all over in my right chest where they took out the tumor, in my armpit, in my right shoulder. > I rather try Dr. protocol or any natural way to kill the cancer cell, but I just can not count the treatment just by my knowledge, I mean I need a professional who fit to Dr. method, I've been searching for that, never success. > > Do you know an herbalist that I can go to, I live in MD I search in here Washington DC area and spoke to many doctor that I know about Dr. methods but no one know and don't want to know even one doctor told me those was illegal. I don't care if that method is illegal in my area, I just want to stop the chorus of the conventional treatment. It's seem I'm not going to end up just miss one breast, but also the other and my fertility,(recent blood report, I'm in menopause level), I don't know if the other organ already damage. All I know I breathless easily and tired just to walk fast. I keep asking the doctor all I the answer I found everything looks normal to them, so they don't really know why, obviously they just put me to one other test and another but the result never confirm my complaint. In mean while I think my body suffered from those medical test. > I just desparate to have Dr. protocol but I can not do it myself, honestly I've tried and when I'm so much in pain I just don't know what to do the only confirmation I have Dr. CLark's book and that's just is not work well with while I'm in pain, confuse, panic and ect. > Then obviously I go to my doctor which would blame me for taking all those whitout they knowledge. > I just need a profesional who can do it with me and told me what to do next. > Is there any info for what I need right now it would appreciate a lot. > Thank you so much. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Thanks for your info and empathy. I send of one Dr. book to my friend and she agree that hard for me to do it by myself while I have limited access to the regimen. I went to a other cancer doctor, and he give an courage to get through all this. He said chemo drug didn't interfere the schedule of the menopause, even thought I don't have my period doesn't mean I stop ovulated. So, I think I have to choose the treatment which available for me. I'll do my best, God knows I try all my best to get treatment in natural way I just give everything in His hands. Thank all. e_j_anderson <e_j_anderson@...> wrote: I'm sorry you're suffering these things and cannot find adequate counsel on implementing the program. The pain and shortness of breath you describe are common side effects of taxol. The other drug is an antibody drug -- if this drug is having an immunological effect, which is its intended use, then your immune system may be producing lots of substances that make you feel sick. (It is often true that the unpleasant symptoms we feel when we are sick are not from the disease, but from our body's defensive response to the disease. A perfect example would be mononucleosis. The symptoms of that disease seem to be largely associated with the immune response as the white blood cells ratched up their function in response to the virus.) It doesn't help to know that you are normal when you feel weak and in pain. Lots of us have suffered terribly too, from one cause or another. I at least have some empathy for your situation. I used to know a nutritional counsellor who knew and used the program. He no longer lives or works in my area. If I can think of some way to find out if someone near you is competent and can advise/guide you, I will post to this list. Right now I'm afraid I have nothing to offer. How many more weeks of treatment are scheduled? Remember you are in charge. You can stop or postpone these treatments if you feel they are doing you more harm than good. If you don't have any detectable cancer currently, I think you have reason to be optimistic. Even if you find someone to guide you through the program, all healers have their limitations in knowledge and skill. There is no magic solution, and I'd guess that it is most likely you will have to do a combination of things if you want to get healthy and stay that way. > > Hi, enderson > > After the surgery doctor according to the pathology report, base on the size the stage is III but according to PET scan no evidenced that spread to other organ, although they found a lump in one of 4 lymph node they took. > After 6 week from the surgery, I felt the shooting pain like all over in my right chest where they took out the tumor, in my armpit, in my right shoulder. > I rather try Dr. protocol or any natural way to kill the cancer cell, but I just can not count the treatment just by my knowledge, I mean I need a professional who fit to Dr. method, I've been searching for that, never success. > > Do you know an herbalist that I can go to, I live in MD I search in here Washington DC area and spoke to many doctor that I know about Dr. methods but no one know and don't want to know even one doctor told me those was illegal. I don't care if that method is illegal in my area, I just want to stop the chorus of the conventional treatment. It's seem I'm not going to end up just miss one breast, but also the other and my fertility,(recent blood report, I'm in menopause level), I don't know if the other organ already damage. All I know I breathless easily and tired just to walk fast. I keep asking the doctor all I the answer I found everything looks normal to them, so they don't really know why, obviously they just put me to one other test and another but the result never confirm my complaint. In mean while I think my body suffered from those medical test. > I just desparate to have Dr. protocol but I can not do it myself, honestly I've tried and when I'm so much in pain I just don't know what to do the only confirmation I have Dr. CLark's book and that's just is not work well with while I'm in pain, confuse, panic and ect. > Then obviously I go to my doctor which would blame me for taking all those whitout they knowledge. > I just need a profesional who can do it with me and told me what to do next. > Is there any info for what I need right now it would appreciate a lot. > Thank you so much. > --------------------------------- Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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