Re: Re: 12 volt wall transformer power supply,

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What's all this fuss about transformers? They're used all the time when

plugging into 120 volts and it's brought down to 6v dc or some other lower

voltage..I don't see how the 120 v could ever get through to the hand holds

without burning out the circuitry of the transformer..Another thing is that I've

had 120 volts course through my body a few times and it's no big deal; unless

you're in the bath tub or standing in a pool of water; or wearing a

pacemaker..or sticking one handhold up yor rectum.and the other in yor mouth..in

which case..

BYE BYE MS. AMERICAN PIE...

Melvis... ?8^D Hahahahaha

Re: 12 volt wall transformer power supply, was Re: [Dr )

I thought you were all afraid of being electrocuted with a transformer and

arriving in the spirit world

Liz

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Mel, I have been a lurker here most of the time, and I am so happy for you and

the thought of you now making plans to go see whales and looking forward to

camping etc. that is so wonderful.....Go for it! A word of warning though, and

this is purely selfish. You have been a source of very loud laughter and fun

and I refuse to think of you riding off into the sunset and taking that with

you. Please do not forget us or I will have to send a possee out to find you.

All the best to you.

Mel <jonah@...> wrote: What's all this fuss about

transformers? They're used all the time when plugging into 120 volts and it's

brought down to 6v dc or some other lower voltage

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Hi Mel,

Glad to hear of your continued progress :)

The worst case secenario with an electric shock is through the heart.

Holding the hand holds with both hands would provide this current path.

Holding one sith the left hand and the other contact point anywhere on the

right side of the body (anywhere from the head to the foot of the right

side) would also provide this path. 120 V household current would kill a

person with contacts firmly attached. There is a possibility, that a short

in a wall tranformer, could kill a person 'wired up' 'properly' before the

transformer itself was destroyed along with the life of the victom. Small

batteries don't pose this risk. We all make decisions with informed risk

involved. This is just to make sure everyone knows what risk is involved to

be more informed

The Lord Bless,

Vince

>From: " Mel " <jonah@...>

>Reply-Dr

><Dr >

>Subject: Re: Re: 12 volt wall transformer power supply,

>Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:41:25 -0700

>

>What's all this fuss about transformers? They're used all the time when

>plugging into 120 volts and it's brought down to 6v dc or some other lower

>voltage..I don't see how the 120 v could ever get through to the hand holds

>without burning out the circuitry of the transformer..Another thing is that

>I've had 120 volts course through my body a few times and it's no big deal;

>unless you're in the bath tub or standing in a pool of water; or wearing a

>pacemaker..or sticking one handhold up yor rectum.and the other in yor

>mouth..in which case..

>BYE BYE MS. AMERICAN PIE...

>Melvis... ?8^D Hahahahaha

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi teresa,

Sorry you were so confused about the context of this tread. the point is

that normal zapping current is harmless what ever the current path, even

through the heart (except for the unknown effects on someone with a

pacemaker). The only danger would be if a wall transformer malfunctioned

and short circuted through the heart. It would most likely be lethal. That

to my knowledge has not happened to anyone on any list that I have been on.

If it had, the person would not have lived to write about it, and one of

their surviving loved ones would have had to let us know. Hope this helps

you understand what we're talking about

Vince

>From: teresa paida <chiratmp@...>

>Reply-Dr

>Dr

>Subject: Re: Re: 12 volt wall transformer power supply,

>Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 17:03:42 -0700 (PDT)

>

>in my own personal experience I have used the zapper

>whereever I darn well please, and no bad results

>--- " V. Richter " <new_man85@...> wrote:

> > Hi Mel,

> >

> > Glad to hear of your continued progress :)

> >

> > The worst case secenario with an electric shock is

> > through the heart.

> > Holding the hand holds with both hands would provide

> > this current path.

> > Holding one sith the left hand and the other contact

> > point anywhere on the

> > right side of the body (anywhere from the head to

> > the foot of the right

> > side) would also provide this path. 120 V household

> > current would kill a

> > person with contacts firmly attached. There is a

> > possibility, that a short

> > in a wall tranformer, could kill a person 'wired up'

> > 'properly' before the

> > transformer itself was destroyed along with the life

> > of the victom. Small

> > batteries don't pose this risk. We all make

> > decisions with informed risk

> > involved. This is just to make sure everyone knows

> > what risk is involved to

> > be more informed

> >

> > The Lord Bless,

> >

> > Vince

> >

> >

> > >From: " Mel " <jonah@...>

> > >Reply-Dr

> > ><Dr >

> > >Subject: Re: Re: 12 volt wall transformer

> > power supply,

> > >Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:41:25 -0700

> > >

> > >What's all this fuss about transformers? They're

> > used all the time when

> > >plugging into 120 volts and it's brought down to 6v

> > dc or some other lower

> > >voltage..I don't see how the 120 v could ever get

> > through to the hand holds

> > >without burning out the circuitry of the

> > transformer..Another thing is that

> > >I've had 120 volts course through my body a few

> > times and it's no big deal;

> > >unless you're in the bath tub or standing in a pool

> > of water; or wearing a

> > >pacemaker..or sticking one handhold up yor

> > rectum.and the other in yor

> > >mouth..in which case..

> > >BYE BYE MS. AMERICAN PIE...

> > >Melvis... ?8^D Hahahahaha

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Now that would make a fantastic C.S.I. TV. series..You know? The one where

they try to figure out exactly how someone died even if it happened years ago?

Or imagine Detective Columbo trying to figyure that one out..especially if the

relative absconded with the faulty zapper..and then died upon using it and then

another relative took off with that one..

Why they'd think a serial killer was on the looses..Yeahahahaha ;-D

mel ;-)

Re: Re: 12 volt wall transformer

> > power supply,

> > >Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:41:25 -0700

> > >

> > >What's all this fuss about transformers? They're

> > used all the time when

> > >plugging into 120 volts and it's brought down to 6v

> > dc or some other lower

> > >voltage..I don't see how the 120 v could ever get

> > through to the hand holds

> > >without burning out the circuitry of the

> > transformer..Another thing is that

> > >I've had 120 volts course through my body a few

> > times and it's no big deal;

> > >unless you're in the bath tub or standing in a pool

> > of water; or wearing a

> > >pacemaker..or sticking one handhold up yor

> > rectum.and the other in yor

> > >mouth..in which case..

> > >BYE BYE MS. AMERICAN PIE...

> > >Melvis... ?8^D Hahahahaha

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Where's Shirlock Holmes when you need him, Melville?

Vince

>From: " Mel " <jonah@...>

>Reply-Dr

><Dr >

>Subject: Re: Re: 12 volt wall transformer power supply,

>Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 18:26:21 -0700

>

>Now that would make a fantastic C.S.I. TV. series..You know? The one

>where they try to figure out exactly how someone died even if it happened

>years ago? Or imagine Detective Columbo trying to figyure that one

>out..especially if the relative absconded with the faulty zapper..and then

>died upon using it and then another relative took off with that one..

>Why they'd think a serial killer was on the looses..Yeahahahaha ;-D

>mel ;-)

> Re: Re: 12 volt wall transformer power supply,

>

>

>Hi teresa,

>

>snip< the point is

>that normal zapping current is harmless what ever the current path, even

>through the heart (except for the unknown effects on someone with a

>pacemaker). The only danger would be if a wall transformer malfunctioned

>and short circuted through the heart. It would most likely be lethal.

>That

>to my knowledge has not happened to anyone on any list that I have been on.

>If it had, the person would not have lived to write about it, and one of

>their surviving loved ones would have had to let us know.

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Re: Re: 12 volt wall transformer power supply,

Where's Shirlock Holmes when you need him, Melville?

Vince

Up a ladder collecting Black Walnutz you nut...Hahahaha ;-D

melville...

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know if you built a food zappicator if you could use a power

supply in place of batteries? Since it is only zapping your food, there

is no chance of you getting electrocuted. It would make it much cheaper

than batteries.

thanks,

D

[Guest guest]

I guess so but Dr says to get a battery charger and four batteries so you

can save on batteries--one that goes up past 9 as she wants the power to be high

enough. We had one for running toy cars and it had enough power.

Hiv/Aids patients have to zap all day at first!

That lady who mentioned the silver pulser was right as the pulser cleans the

blood but the plate zapping targets specific organs and it is just an extension

of zapping i.e. the same circuit at the same time. You need lots of samples.

Has anyone read Bob Beck's book?

Liz