Re: HIV causes AIDS, HIV does not cause AIDS, what?

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http://saafan-aidscure.blogspot.com/

Saafan

bearkat4160 <bearkat4160@...> wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> So many on the internet seem to suggest that HIV doesn't cause AIDS

> and that stress, malnutrition, drug use, etc. is the factor that

> causes it. So are they suggesting that all the millions of people

> that died of AIDS thus far did not die from the HIV virus (which they

> all have in common) and that they all died from those other factors?

>

> I have was diagnosed as HIV+ on Nov. 2, 2006 and once again on Feb.

> 6, 2007. So are the " dissidents " telling me that if I avoid stress,

> malnutrition, intravenous drug use, multiple sex partners, HIV drugs,

> etc., that I will not develop AIDS just because I was diagnosed HIV+?

> See this is the question that the anti-AIDS activists are not

> answering, at least not for me. Is it not true that ALL people with

> HIV end up with a compromised immune system do to the loss of T-cells

> caused by HIV?

>

> I live a VERY healthy lifestyle. I eat healthy food, do the Beck

> Protocol (all 4 parts), exercise, drink 2 cups of green tea every

> morning, sometimes use a regular zapper (just for the extra), recently

> received 's parasite herbs (which I will be starting soon), take

> vitamins, and looking into Transfer Factors

> (http://www.transferfactor.com). I'm sure that I will be trying a

> bunch of different things, but these are some that I am trying for

> now. According to orthodox medicine, this will not stop me from

> developing AIDS, only the HIV drugs can delay the onset of AIDS. Is

> that the truth, or what is the truth? Does anyone REALLY know? I am

> beginning to wonder.

>

> Tavis

>

Hey Tavis...I read your post, you are doing the right thing about your

treatments. I am Hiv

positive also and it will progress to aids if you do nothing. The clark

treatment is great and

Ive been doing it since nov. 2006. And have gotten to the point I can take lots

of colloidal

silver with no bad effects now. This is why I'm writing you to tell you to take

at least 16 oz

of colloidal silver a day. Will kill the virus soon and also take

selenium.(solenomax only)

get at CVS. You will have to make colloidal silver yourself because is expensive

to have to

buy that much. Do a search on web to make it yourself or if you are interested

I'll show

you a cheap and awesome way to make it. Thanks, Al

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa, onenuttyguyhere, where do get " all the millions

of people that died of AIDS? " You're obviously talking about 3rd

World AIDS, which is clearly starvation and poverty, and has nothing

to do with either a virus or with what the US military defines as

AIDS in the US. When the US epidemic is officially recognized as

over (soon) the total death, over 30 years, will be about a million.

I have been watching who lives and who dies of this for more than 20

years, and it is clear that HIV does not AIDS -- except possibly in

those who believe in it. The virus, if it exists, is harmless. The

belief system is fatal.

Tavis, could you tell me what, specifically, you are treating with

all these remedies?

Ed

www.sobehealthy.com

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > So many on the internet seem to suggest that HIV doesn't cause

AIDS

> > and that stress, malnutrition, drug use, etc. is the factor that

> > causes it. So are they suggesting that all the millions of people

> > that died of AIDS thus far did not die from the HIV virus (which

they

> > all have in common) and that they all died from those other

factors?

> >

> > I have was diagnosed as HIV+ on Nov. 2, 2006 and once again on

Feb.

> > 6, 2007. So are the " dissidents " telling me that if I avoid

stress,

> > malnutrition, intravenous drug use, multiple sex partners, HIV

drugs,

> > etc., that I will not develop AIDS just because I was diagnosed

HIV+?

> > See this is the question that the anti-AIDS activists are not

> > answering, at least not for me. Is it not true that ALL people

with

> > HIV end up with a compromised immune system do to the loss of T-

cells

> > caused by HIV?

> >

> > I live a VERY healthy lifestyle. I eat healthy food, do the

Beck

> > Protocol (all 4 parts), exercise, drink 2 cups of green tea every

> > morning, sometimes use a regular zapper (just for the extra),

recently

> > received 's parasite herbs (which I will be starting soon),

take

> > vitamins, and looking into Transfer Factors

> > (http://www.transferfactor.com). I'm sure that I will be trying a

> > bunch of different things, but these are some that I am trying for

> > now. According to orthodox medicine, this will not stop me from

> > developing AIDS, only the HIV drugs can delay the onset of AIDS.

Is

> > that the truth, or what is the truth? Does anyone REALLY know?

I am

> > beginning to wonder.

> >

> > Tavis

> >

>

> Hey Tavis...I read your post, you are doing the right thing about

your treatments. I am Hiv

> positive also and it will progress to aids if you do nothing. The

clark treatment is great and

> Ive been doing it since nov. 2006. And have gotten to the point I

can take lots of colloidal

> silver with no bad effects now. This is why I'm writing you to tell

you to take at least 16 oz

> of colloidal silver a day. Will kill the virus soon and also take

selenium.(solenomax only)

> get at CVS. You will have to make colloidal silver yourself

because is expensive to have to

> buy that much. Do a search on web to make it yourself or if you are

interested I'll show

> you a cheap and awesome way to make it. Thanks, Al

>

[Guest guest]

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa, onenuttyguyhere, where do get " all the millions

of people that died of AIDS? " You're obviously talking about 3rd

World AIDS, which is clearly starvation and poverty, and has nothing

to do with either a virus or with what the US military defines as

AIDS in the US. When the US epidemic is officially recognized as

over (soon) the total death, over 30 years, will be about a million.

I have been watching who lives and who dies of this for more than 20

years, and it is clear that HIV does not AIDS -- except possibly in

those who believe in it. The virus, if it exists, is harmless. The

belief system is fatal.

Tavis, could you tell me what, specifically, you are treating with

all these remedies?

Ed

www.sobehealthy.com

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > So many on the internet seem to suggest that HIV doesn't cause

AIDS

> > and that stress, malnutrition, drug use, etc. is the factor that

> > causes it. So are they suggesting that all the millions of people

> > that died of AIDS thus far did not die from the HIV virus (which

they

> > all have in common) and that they all died from those other

factors?

> >

> > I have was diagnosed as HIV+ on Nov. 2, 2006 and once again on

Feb.

> > 6, 2007. So are the " dissidents " telling me that if I avoid

stress,

> > malnutrition, intravenous drug use, multiple sex partners, HIV

drugs,

> > etc., that I will not develop AIDS just because I was diagnosed

HIV+?

> > See this is the question that the anti-AIDS activists are not

> > answering, at least not for me. Is it not true that ALL people

with

> > HIV end up with a compromised immune system do to the loss of T-

cells

> > caused by HIV?

> >

> > I live a VERY healthy lifestyle. I eat healthy food, do the

Beck

> > Protocol (all 4 parts), exercise, drink 2 cups of green tea every

> > morning, sometimes use a regular zapper (just for the extra),

recently

> > received 's parasite herbs (which I will be starting soon),

take

> > vitamins, and looking into Transfer Factors

> > (http://www.transferfactor.com). I'm sure that I will be trying a

> > bunch of different things, but these are some that I am trying for

> > now. According to orthodox medicine, this will not stop me from

> > developing AIDS, only the HIV drugs can delay the onset of AIDS.

Is

> > that the truth, or what is the truth? Does anyone REALLY know?

I am

> > beginning to wonder.

> >

> > Tavis

> >

>

> Hey Tavis...I read your post, you are doing the right thing about

your treatments. I am Hiv

> positive also and it will progress to aids if you do nothing. The

clark treatment is great and

> Ive been doing it since nov. 2006. And have gotten to the point I

can take lots of colloidal

> silver with no bad effects now. This is why I'm writing you to tell

you to take at least 16 oz

> of colloidal silver a day. Will kill the virus soon and also take

selenium.(solenomax only)

> get at CVS. You will have to make colloidal silver yourself

because is expensive to have to

> buy that much. Do a search on web to make it yourself or if you are

interested I'll show

> you a cheap and awesome way to make it. Thanks, Al

>

[Guest guest]

Curing AIDS is possible. Read My story on the following site:

http://saafan-aidscure.blogspot.com/

Saafan

<aidsisover@...> wrote: Whoa! Whoa! Whoa, onenuttyguyhere,

where do get " all the millions

of people that died of AIDS? " You're obviously talking about 3rd

World AIDS, which is clearly starvation and poverty, and has nothing

to do with either a virus or with what the US military defines as

AIDS in the US. When the US epidemic is officially recognized as

over (soon) the total death, over 30 years, will be about a million.

I have been watching who lives and who dies of this for more than 20

years, and it is clear that HIV does not AIDS -- except possibly in

those who believe in it. The virus, if it exists, is harmless. The

belief system is fatal.

Tavis, could you tell me what, specifically, you are treating with

all these remedies?

Ed

www.sobehealthy.com

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > So many on the internet seem to suggest that HIV doesn't cause

AIDS

> > and that stress, malnutrition, drug use, etc. is the factor that

> > causes it. So are they suggesting that all the millions of people

> > that died of AIDS thus far did not die from the HIV virus (which

they

> > all have in common) and that they all died from those other

factors?

> >

> > I have was diagnosed as HIV+ on Nov. 2, 2006 and once again on

Feb.

> > 6, 2007. So are the " dissidents " telling me that if I avoid

stress,

> > malnutrition, intravenous drug use, multiple sex partners, HIV

drugs,

> > etc., that I will not develop AIDS just because I was diagnosed

HIV+?

> > See this is the question that the anti-AIDS activists are not

> > answering, at least not for me. Is it not true that ALL people

with

> > HIV end up with a compromised immune system do to the loss of T-

cells

> > caused by HIV?

> >

> > I live a VERY healthy lifestyle. I eat healthy food, do the

Beck

> > Protocol (all 4 parts), exercise, drink 2 cups of green tea every

> > morning, sometimes use a regular zapper (just for the extra),

recently

> > received 's parasite herbs (which I will be starting soon),

take

> > vitamins, and looking into Transfer Factors

> > (http://www.transferfactor.com). I'm sure that I will be trying a

> > bunch of different things, but these are some that I am trying for

> > now. According to orthodox medicine, this will not stop me from

> > developing AIDS, only the HIV drugs can delay the onset of AIDS.

Is

> > that the truth, or what is the truth? Does anyone REALLY know?

I am

> > beginning to wonder.

> >

> > Tavis

> >

>

> Hey Tavis...I read your post, you are doing the right thing about

your treatments. I am Hiv

> positive also and it will progress to aids if you do nothing. The

clark treatment is great and

> Ive been doing it since nov. 2006. And have gotten to the point I

can take lots of colloidal

> silver with no bad effects now. This is why I'm writing you to tell

you to take at least 16 oz

> of colloidal silver a day. Will kill the virus soon and also take

selenium.(solenomax only)

> get at CVS. You will have to make colloidal silver yourself

because is expensive to have to

> buy that much. Do a search on web to make it yourself or if you are

interested I'll show

> you a cheap and awesome way to make it. Thanks, Al

>

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Saafan

<aidsisover@...> wrote: Whoa! Whoa! Whoa, onenuttyguyhere,

where do get " all the millions

of people that died of AIDS? " You're obviously talking about 3rd

World AIDS, which is clearly starvation and poverty, and has nothing

to do with either a virus or with what the US military defines as

AIDS in the US. When the US epidemic is officially recognized as

over (soon) the total death, over 30 years, will be about a million.

I have been watching who lives and who dies of this for more than 20

years, and it is clear that HIV does not AIDS -- except possibly in

those who believe in it. The virus, if it exists, is harmless. The

belief system is fatal.

Tavis, could you tell me what, specifically, you are treating with

all these remedies?

Ed

www.sobehealthy.com

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > So many on the internet seem to suggest that HIV doesn't cause

AIDS

> > and that stress, malnutrition, drug use, etc. is the factor that

> > causes it. So are they suggesting that all the millions of people

> > that died of AIDS thus far did not die from the HIV virus (which

they

> > all have in common) and that they all died from those other

factors?

> >

> > I have was diagnosed as HIV+ on Nov. 2, 2006 and once again on

Feb.

> > 6, 2007. So are the " dissidents " telling me that if I avoid

stress,

> > malnutrition, intravenous drug use, multiple sex partners, HIV

drugs,

> > etc., that I will not develop AIDS just because I was diagnosed

HIV+?

> > See this is the question that the anti-AIDS activists are not

> > answering, at least not for me. Is it not true that ALL people

with

> > HIV end up with a compromised immune system do to the loss of T-

cells

> > caused by HIV?

> >

> > I live a VERY healthy lifestyle. I eat healthy food, do the

Beck

> > Protocol (all 4 parts), exercise, drink 2 cups of green tea every

> > morning, sometimes use a regular zapper (just for the extra),

recently

> > received 's parasite herbs (which I will be starting soon),

take

> > vitamins, and looking into Transfer Factors

> > (http://www.transferfactor.com). I'm sure that I will be trying a

> > bunch of different things, but these are some that I am trying for

> > now. According to orthodox medicine, this will not stop me from

> > developing AIDS, only the HIV drugs can delay the onset of AIDS.

Is

> > that the truth, or what is the truth? Does anyone REALLY know?

I am

> > beginning to wonder.

> >

> > Tavis

> >

>

> Hey Tavis...I read your post, you are doing the right thing about

your treatments. I am Hiv

> positive also and it will progress to aids if you do nothing. The

clark treatment is great and

> Ive been doing it since nov. 2006. And have gotten to the point I

can take lots of colloidal

> silver with no bad effects now. This is why I'm writing you to tell

you to take at least 16 oz

> of colloidal silver a day. Will kill the virus soon and also take

selenium.(solenomax only)

> get at CVS. You will have to make colloidal silver yourself

because is expensive to have to

> buy that much. Do a search on web to make it yourself or if you are

interested I'll show

> you a cheap and awesome way to make it. Thanks, Al

>

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Saafan Al-Safi <alsafi52@...> wrote: Curing AIDS is possible.

Read My story on the following site:

http://saafan-aidscure.blogspot.com/

Saafan

<aidsisover@...> wrote: Whoa! Whoa! Whoa, onenuttyguyhere, where do

get " all the millions

of people that died of AIDS? " You're obviously talking about 3rd

World AIDS, which is clearly starvation and poverty, and has nothing

to do with either a virus or with what the US military defines as

AIDS in the US. When the US epidemic is officially recognized as

over (soon) the total death, over 30 years, will be about a million.

I have been watching who lives and who dies of this for more than 20

years, and it is clear that HIV does not AIDS -- except possibly in

those who believe in it. The virus, if it exists, is harmless. The

belief system is fatal.

Tavis, could you tell me what, specifically, you are treating with

all these remedies?

Ed

www.sobehealthy.com

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > So many on the internet seem to suggest that HIV doesn't cause

AIDS

> > and that stress, malnutrition, drug use, etc. is the factor that

> > causes it. So are they suggesting that all the millions of people

> > that died of AIDS thus far did not die from the HIV virus (which

they

> > all have in common) and that they all died from those other

factors?

> >

> > I have was diagnosed as HIV+ on Nov. 2, 2006 and once again on

Feb.

> > 6, 2007. So are the " dissidents " telling me that if I avoid

stress,

> > malnutrition, intravenous drug use, multiple sex partners, HIV

drugs,

> > etc., that I will not develop AIDS just because I was diagnosed

HIV+?

> > See this is the question that the anti-AIDS activists are not

> > answering, at least not for me. Is it not true that ALL people

with

> > HIV end up with a compromised immune system do to the loss of T-

cells

> > caused by HIV?

> >

> > I live a VERY healthy lifestyle. I eat healthy food, do the

Beck

> > Protocol (all 4 parts), exercise, drink 2 cups of green tea every

> > morning, sometimes use a regular zapper (just for the extra),

recently

> > received 's parasite herbs (which I will be starting soon),

take

> > vitamins, and looking into Transfer Factors

> > (http://www.transferfactor.com). I'm sure that I will be trying a

> > bunch of different things, but these are some that I am trying for

> > now. According to orthodox medicine, this will not stop me from

> > developing AIDS, only the HIV drugs can delay the onset of AIDS.

Is

> > that the truth, or what is the truth? Does anyone REALLY know?

I am

> > beginning to wonder.

> >

> > Tavis

> >

>

> Hey Tavis...I read your post, you are doing the right thing about

your treatments. I am Hiv

> positive also and it will progress to aids if you do nothing. The

clark treatment is great and

> Ive been doing it since nov. 2006. And have gotten to the point I

can take lots of colloidal

> silver with no bad effects now. This is why I'm writing you to tell

you to take at least 16 oz

> of colloidal silver a day. Will kill the virus soon and also take

selenium.(solenomax only)

> get at CVS. You will have to make colloidal silver yourself

because is expensive to have to

> buy that much. Do a search on web to make it yourself or if you are

interested I'll show

> you a cheap and awesome way to make it. Thanks, Al

>

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Saafan Al-Safi <alsafi52@...> wrote: Curing AIDS is possible.

Read My story on the following site:

http://saafan-aidscure.blogspot.com/

Saafan

<aidsisover@...> wrote: Whoa! Whoa! Whoa, onenuttyguyhere, where do

get " all the millions

of people that died of AIDS? " You're obviously talking about 3rd

World AIDS, which is clearly starvation and poverty, and has nothing

to do with either a virus or with what the US military defines as

AIDS in the US. When the US epidemic is officially recognized as

over (soon) the total death, over 30 years, will be about a million.

I have been watching who lives and who dies of this for more than 20

years, and it is clear that HIV does not AIDS -- except possibly in

those who believe in it. The virus, if it exists, is harmless. The

belief system is fatal.

Tavis, could you tell me what, specifically, you are treating with

all these remedies?

Ed

www.sobehealthy.com

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > So many on the internet seem to suggest that HIV doesn't cause

AIDS

> > and that stress, malnutrition, drug use, etc. is the factor that

> > causes it. So are they suggesting that all the millions of people

> > that died of AIDS thus far did not die from the HIV virus (which

they

> > all have in common) and that they all died from those other

factors?

> >

> > I have was diagnosed as HIV+ on Nov. 2, 2006 and once again on

Feb.

> > 6, 2007. So are the " dissidents " telling me that if I avoid

stress,

> > malnutrition, intravenous drug use, multiple sex partners, HIV

drugs,

> > etc., that I will not develop AIDS just because I was diagnosed

HIV+?

> > See this is the question that the anti-AIDS activists are not

> > answering, at least not for me. Is it not true that ALL people

with

> > HIV end up with a compromised immune system do to the loss of T-

cells

> > caused by HIV?

> >

> > I live a VERY healthy lifestyle. I eat healthy food, do the

Beck

> > Protocol (all 4 parts), exercise, drink 2 cups of green tea every

> > morning, sometimes use a regular zapper (just for the extra),

recently

> > received 's parasite herbs (which I will be starting soon),

take

> > vitamins, and looking into Transfer Factors

> > (http://www.transferfactor.com). I'm sure that I will be trying a

> > bunch of different things, but these are some that I am trying for

> > now. According to orthodox medicine, this will not stop me from

> > developing AIDS, only the HIV drugs can delay the onset of AIDS.

Is

> > that the truth, or what is the truth? Does anyone REALLY know?

I am

> > beginning to wonder.

> >

> > Tavis

> >

>

> Hey Tavis...I read your post, you are doing the right thing about

your treatments. I am Hiv

> positive also and it will progress to aids if you do nothing. The

clark treatment is great and

> Ive been doing it since nov. 2006. And have gotten to the point I

can take lots of colloidal

> silver with no bad effects now. This is why I'm writing you to tell

you to take at least 16 oz

> of colloidal silver a day. Will kill the virus soon and also take

selenium.(solenomax only)

> get at CVS. You will have to make colloidal silver yourself

because is expensive to have to

> buy that much. Do a search on web to make it yourself or if you are

interested I'll show

> you a cheap and awesome way to make it. Thanks, Al

>

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Hello Ed,

Wow I am surprised that I'm getting a response from

a message that I posted months ago! For the most

part, I don't even go to the chat forums anymore. But

to respond to your question, right now I am zapping,

taking colloidal silver, and selenomax, along with

vitamins, exercise, and a fairly good diet. I have to

disagree with you about HIV being harmless. Many

people that are living with HIV would strongly

disagree with that!

Tavis

--- <aidsisover@...> wrote:

> Whoa! Whoa! Whoa, onenuttyguyhere, where do get

> " all the millions

> of people that died of AIDS? " You're obviously

> talking about 3rd

> World AIDS, which is clearly starvation and poverty,

> and has nothing

> to do with either a virus or with what the US

> military defines as

> AIDS in the US. When the US epidemic is officially

> recognized as

> over (soon) the total death, over 30 years, will be

> about a million.

>

> I have been watching who lives and who dies of this

> for more than 20

> years, and it is clear that HIV does not AIDS --

> except possibly in

> those who believe in it. The virus, if it exists,

> is harmless. The

> belief system is fatal.

>

> Tavis, could you tell me what, specifically, you are

> treating with

> all these remedies?

>

> Ed

> www.sobehealthy.com

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > So many on the internet seem to suggest that

> HIV doesn't cause

> AIDS

> > > and that stress, malnutrition, drug use, etc. is

> the factor that

> > > causes it. So are they suggesting that all the

> millions of people

> > > that died of AIDS thus far did not die from the

> HIV virus (which

> they

> > > all have in common) and that they all died from

> those other

> factors?

> > >

> > > I have was diagnosed as HIV+ on Nov. 2, 2006

> and once again on

> Feb.

> > > 6, 2007. So are the " dissidents " telling me

> that if I avoid

> stress,

> > > malnutrition, intravenous drug use, multiple sex

> partners, HIV

> drugs,

> > > etc., that I will not develop AIDS just because

> I was diagnosed

> HIV+?

> > > See this is the question that the anti-AIDS

> activists are not

> > > answering, at least not for me. Is it not true

> that ALL people

> with

> > > HIV end up with a compromised immune system do

> to the loss of T-

> cells

> > > caused by HIV?

> > >

> > > I live a VERY healthy lifestyle. I eat

> healthy food, do the

> Beck

> > > Protocol (all 4 parts), exercise, drink 2 cups

> of green tea every

> > > morning, sometimes use a regular zapper (just

> for the extra),

> recently

> > > received 's parasite herbs (which I will be

> starting soon),

> take

> > > vitamins, and looking into Transfer Factors

> > > (http://www.transferfactor.com). I'm sure that

> I will be trying a

> > > bunch of different things, but these are some

> that I am trying for

> > > now. According to orthodox medicine, this will

> not stop me from

> > > developing AIDS, only the HIV drugs can delay

> the onset of AIDS.

> Is

> > > that the truth, or what is the truth? Does

> anyone REALLY know?

> I am

> > > beginning to wonder.

> > >

> > > Tavis

> > >

> >

> > Hey Tavis...I read your post, you are doing the

> right thing about

> your treatments. I am Hiv

> > positive also and it will progress to aids if you

> do nothing. The

> clark treatment is great and

> > Ive been doing it since nov. 2006. And have gotten

> to the point I

> can take lots of colloidal

> > silver with no bad effects now. This is why I'm

> writing you to tell

> you to take at least 16 oz

> > of colloidal silver a day. Will kill the virus

> soon and also take

> selenium.(solenomax only)

> > get at CVS. You will have to make colloidal silver

> yourself

> because is expensive to have to

> > buy that much. Do a search on web to make it

> yourself or if you are

> interested I'll show

> > you a cheap and awesome way to make it. Thanks, Al

> >

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hello Ed,

Wow I am surprised that I'm getting a response from

a message that I posted months ago! For the most

part, I don't even go to the chat forums anymore. But

to respond to your question, right now I am zapping,

taking colloidal silver, and selenomax, along with

vitamins, exercise, and a fairly good diet. I have to

disagree with you about HIV being harmless. Many

people that are living with HIV would strongly

disagree with that!

Tavis

--- <aidsisover@...> wrote:

> Whoa! Whoa! Whoa, onenuttyguyhere, where do get

> " all the millions

> of people that died of AIDS? " You're obviously

> talking about 3rd

> World AIDS, which is clearly starvation and poverty,

> and has nothing

> to do with either a virus or with what the US

> military defines as

> AIDS in the US. When the US epidemic is officially

> recognized as

> over (soon) the total death, over 30 years, will be

> about a million.

>

> I have been watching who lives and who dies of this

> for more than 20

> years, and it is clear that HIV does not AIDS --

> except possibly in

> those who believe in it. The virus, if it exists,

> is harmless. The

> belief system is fatal.

>

> Tavis, could you tell me what, specifically, you are

> treating with

> all these remedies?

>

> Ed

> www.sobehealthy.com

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > So many on the internet seem to suggest that

> HIV doesn't cause

> AIDS

> > > and that stress, malnutrition, drug use, etc. is

> the factor that

> > > causes it. So are they suggesting that all the

> millions of people

> > > that died of AIDS thus far did not die from the

> HIV virus (which

> they

> > > all have in common) and that they all died from

> those other

> factors?

> > >

> > > I have was diagnosed as HIV+ on Nov. 2, 2006

> and once again on

> Feb.

> > > 6, 2007. So are the " dissidents " telling me

> that if I avoid

> stress,

> > > malnutrition, intravenous drug use, multiple sex

> partners, HIV

> drugs,

> > > etc., that I will not develop AIDS just because

> I was diagnosed

> HIV+?

> > > See this is the question that the anti-AIDS

> activists are not

> > > answering, at least not for me. Is it not true

> that ALL people

> with

> > > HIV end up with a compromised immune system do

> to the loss of T-

> cells

> > > caused by HIV?

> > >

> > > I live a VERY healthy lifestyle. I eat

> healthy food, do the

> Beck

> > > Protocol (all 4 parts), exercise, drink 2 cups

> of green tea every

> > > morning, sometimes use a regular zapper (just

> for the extra),

> recently

> > > received 's parasite herbs (which I will be

> starting soon),

> take

> > > vitamins, and looking into Transfer Factors

> > > (http://www.transferfactor.com). I'm sure that

> I will be trying a

> > > bunch of different things, but these are some

> that I am trying for

> > > now. According to orthodox medicine, this will

> not stop me from

> > > developing AIDS, only the HIV drugs can delay

> the onset of AIDS.

> Is

> > > that the truth, or what is the truth? Does

> anyone REALLY know?

> I am

> > > beginning to wonder.

> > >

> > > Tavis

> > >

> >

> > Hey Tavis...I read your post, you are doing the

> right thing about

> your treatments. I am Hiv

> > positive also and it will progress to aids if you

> do nothing. The

> clark treatment is great and

> > Ive been doing it since nov. 2006. And have gotten

> to the point I

> can take lots of colloidal

> > silver with no bad effects now. This is why I'm

> writing you to tell

> you to take at least 16 oz

> > of colloidal silver a day. Will kill the virus

> soon and also take

> selenium.(solenomax only)

> > get at CVS. You will have to make colloidal silver

> yourself

> because is expensive to have to

> > buy that much. Do a search on web to make it

> yourself or if you are

> interested I'll show

> > you a cheap and awesome way to make it. Thanks, Al

> >

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hey Al,

Thanks for your message. I posted that message

quite a while ago so I was surprised that people are

still responding to it. You know, your

recommendations are ironic, cause I've been taking

selenomax for a few months now and I've been taking

colloidal silver for even longer. I have my own

Silver Pulser that makes colloidal silver at home.

So are you having great results from Hulda 's

parasite cleanse? Are you having any health problems?

Tavis

--- bearkat4160 <bearkat4160@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > So many on the internet seem to suggest that

> HIV doesn't cause AIDS

> > and that stress, malnutrition, drug use, etc. is

> the factor that

> > causes it. So are they suggesting that all the

> millions of people

> > that died of AIDS thus far did not die from the

> HIV virus (which they

> > all have in common) and that they all died from

> those other factors?

> >

> > I have was diagnosed as HIV+ on Nov. 2, 2006 and

> once again on Feb.

> > 6, 2007. So are the " dissidents " telling me that

> if I avoid stress,

> > malnutrition, intravenous drug use, multiple sex

> partners, HIV drugs,

> > etc., that I will not develop AIDS just because I

> was diagnosed HIV+?

> > See this is the question that the anti-AIDS

> activists are not

> > answering, at least not for me. Is it not true

> that ALL people with

> > HIV end up with a compromised immune system do to

> the loss of T-cells

> > caused by HIV?

> >

> > I live a VERY healthy lifestyle. I eat healthy

> food, do the Beck

> > Protocol (all 4 parts), exercise, drink 2 cups of

> green tea every

> > morning, sometimes use a regular zapper (just for

> the extra), recently

> > received 's parasite herbs (which I will be

> starting soon), take

> > vitamins, and looking into Transfer Factors

> > (http://www.transferfactor.com). I'm sure that I

> will be trying a

> > bunch of different things, but these are some that

> I am trying for

> > now. According to orthodox medicine, this will

> not stop me from

> > developing AIDS, only the HIV drugs can delay the

> onset of AIDS. Is

> > that the truth, or what is the truth? Does anyone

> REALLY know? I am

> > beginning to wonder.

> >

> > Tavis

> >

>

> Hey Tavis...I read your post, you are doing the

> right thing about your treatments. I am Hiv

> positive also and it will progress to aids if you do

> nothing. The clark treatment is great and

> Ive been doing it since nov. 2006. And have gotten

> to the point I can take lots of colloidal

> silver with no bad effects now. This is why I'm

> writing you to tell you to take at least 16 oz

> of colloidal silver a day. Will kill the virus soon

> and also take selenium.(solenomax only)

> get at CVS. You will have to make colloidal silver

> yourself because is expensive to have to

> buy that much. Do a search on web to make it

> yourself or if you are interested I'll show

> you a cheap and awesome way to make it. Thanks, Al

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hey Al,

Thanks for your message. I posted that message

quite a while ago so I was surprised that people are

still responding to it. You know, your

recommendations are ironic, cause I've been taking

selenomax for a few months now and I've been taking

colloidal silver for even longer. I have my own

Silver Pulser that makes colloidal silver at home.

So are you having great results from Hulda 's

parasite cleanse? Are you having any health problems?

Tavis

--- bearkat4160 <bearkat4160@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > So many on the internet seem to suggest that

> HIV doesn't cause AIDS

> > and that stress, malnutrition, drug use, etc. is

> the factor that

> > causes it. So are they suggesting that all the

> millions of people

> > that died of AIDS thus far did not die from the

> HIV virus (which they

> > all have in common) and that they all died from

> those other factors?

> >

> > I have was diagnosed as HIV+ on Nov. 2, 2006 and

> once again on Feb.

> > 6, 2007. So are the " dissidents " telling me that

> if I avoid stress,

> > malnutrition, intravenous drug use, multiple sex

> partners, HIV drugs,

> > etc., that I will not develop AIDS just because I

> was diagnosed HIV+?

> > See this is the question that the anti-AIDS

> activists are not

> > answering, at least not for me. Is it not true

> that ALL people with

> > HIV end up with a compromised immune system do to

> the loss of T-cells

> > caused by HIV?

> >

> > I live a VERY healthy lifestyle. I eat healthy

> food, do the Beck

> > Protocol (all 4 parts), exercise, drink 2 cups of

> green tea every

> > morning, sometimes use a regular zapper (just for

> the extra), recently

> > received 's parasite herbs (which I will be

> starting soon), take

> > vitamins, and looking into Transfer Factors

> > (http://www.transferfactor.com). I'm sure that I

> will be trying a

> > bunch of different things, but these are some that

> I am trying for

> > now. According to orthodox medicine, this will

> not stop me from

> > developing AIDS, only the HIV drugs can delay the

> onset of AIDS. Is

> > that the truth, or what is the truth? Does anyone

> REALLY know? I am

> > beginning to wonder.

> >

> > Tavis

> >

>

> Hey Tavis...I read your post, you are doing the

> right thing about your treatments. I am Hiv

> positive also and it will progress to aids if you do

> nothing. The clark treatment is great and

> Ive been doing it since nov. 2006. And have gotten

> to the point I can take lots of colloidal

> silver with no bad effects now. This is why I'm

> writing you to tell you to take at least 16 oz

> of colloidal silver a day. Will kill the virus soon

> and also take selenium.(solenomax only)

> get at CVS. You will have to make colloidal silver

> yourself because is expensive to have to

> buy that much. Do a search on web to make it

> yourself or if you are interested I'll show

> you a cheap and awesome way to make it. Thanks, Al

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

>

> > Dear Tavis,

> >

> > The link in my previous email was incorrect. My

> > apologies! Take a look at www.aliveandwell.org for

> > good info that could save your life and save you a

> > world of worry. Here is a brief extract from their

> > section on African " AIDS " :

> >

> > " Is AIDS Devastating Africa?

> > According to the 1999 World Health Organization

> > (WHO) report, the total number of actual diagnosed

> > AIDS cases on the African continent is about equal

> > to the total for AIDS in America even though Africa,

> > with its 650 million people, has more than two times

> > the population of the USA. (61) Africa is often

> > cited as a worst case example of what could happen

> > in America despite figures that demonstrate that

> > 99.5% of Africans do not have AIDS, and among

> > Africans who test HIV positive, 97% do not have

> > AIDS. (62)

> >

> > Unlike in the United States, AIDS in Africa may be

> > diagnosed based on four clinical symptoms -- fever,

> > involuntary loss of 10% of normal body weight,

> > persistent cough, and diarrhea -- and HIV tests are

> > not required. (63) The four clinical AIDS symptoms

> > are identical to those associated with conditions

> > that run rampant on the African continent such as

> > malaria, tuberculosis, parasitic infections, the

> > effects of malnutrition, and unsanitary drinking and

> > bathing water. These symptoms are the result of

> > poverty and other problems that have troubled Africa

> > and other developing areas of the world for many

> > decades. "

> >

> > Hope this helps. I can still send you the AIDS

> > articles with Dr. Duesberg if you like.

> >

> > Arthur

> > www.BestZapper.com

> > www.ForgetDrugs.com

> >

> >

> > HIV causes AIDS, HIV does not

> > cause AIDS, what?

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > So many on the internet seem to suggest that HIV

> > doesn't cause AIDS

> > and that stress, malnutrition, drug use, etc. is

> > the factor that

> > causes it. So are they suggesting that all the

> > millions of people

> > that died of AIDS thus far did not die from the

> > HIV virus (which they

> > all have in common) and that they all died from

> > those other factors?

> >

> > I have was diagnosed as HIV+ on Nov. 2, 2006 and

> > once again on Feb.

> > 6, 2007. So are the " dissidents " telling me that

> > if I avoid stress,

> > malnutrition, intravenous drug use, multiple sex

> > partners, HIV drugs,

> > etc., that I will not develop AIDS just because I

> > was diagnosed HIV+?

> > See this is the question that the anti-AIDS

> > activists are not

> > answering, at least not for me. Is it not true

> > that ALL people with

> > HIV end up with a compromised immune system do to

> > the loss of T-cells

> > caused by HIV?

> >

> > I live a VERY healthy lifestyle. I eat healthy

> > food, do the Beck

> > Protocol (all 4 parts), exercise, drink 2 cups of

> > green tea every

> > morning, sometimes use a regular zapper (just for

> > the extra), recently

> > received 's parasite herbs (which I will be

> > starting soon), take

> > vitamins, and looking into Transfer Factors

> > (http://www.transferfactor.com). I'm sure that I

> > will be trying a

> > bunch of different things, but these are some that

> > I am trying for

> > now. According to orthodox medicine, this will not

> > stop me from

> > developing AIDS, only the HIV drugs can delay the

> > onset of AIDS. Is

> > that the truth, or what is the truth? Does anyone

> > REALLY know? I am

> > beginning to wonder.

> >

> > Tavis

> > P.S. Sorry to always sound like I'm whining guys,

> > but I'm just trying

> > to gather information before I make any life

> > changing decisions!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Dont forget that " wonderful " HIV test they give you checks for ANTIBODIES NOT

the HIV VIRUS....and I don't think anyone will EVER return to a HIV negative

status.

Get a VIRAL LOAD test - you may be pleasantly surprised that it says ZERO HIV

found.

Of course, I believe Dr. says that HIV is just a harmless little virus

that goes in and out of our

lives anyway (as does Dr. Duseberg) and that BENZINE is the real ISSUE

particularly

in ANAL LUBRICANTS (use tested Olive Oil if you need such a product). Not to

mention AZT, etc etc, etc

and recreational drugs such as " poppers " .

And even if you do have " HIV " , I believe that Dr. Duseberg and others site

evidence

that it probaly is really something to do with Hepatitus (I THINK he states that

he has never

seen anyone test positive for HIV that hasn't had hepatitus or something - I may

be wrong on

this paragraph however....so I do not want to claim that as fact.

I know that for example if you had syphillus early in life it still shows a

slight reaction (as if you are

just in the first stages of it) when you have that type of test....equally so

with HIV ---- test for

your VIRAL LOAD (if anything) not some antibody HIV test....

Dr@...: forum@...: Mon, 23 Jun

2008 23:30:55 +0000Subject: Re: HIV causes AIDS, HIV does not cause

AIDS, what?

> > > Dear Tavis,> > > > The link in my previous email

was incorrect. My> > apologies! Take a look at www.aliveandwell.org for> > good

info that could save your life and save you a> > world of worry. Here is a brief

extract from their> > section on African " AIDS " :> > > > " Is AIDS Devastating

Africa?> > According to the 1999 World Health Organization> > (WHO) report, the

total number of actual diagnosed> > AIDS cases on the African continent is about

equal> > to the total for AIDS in America even though Africa,> > with its 650

million people, has more than two times> > the population of the USA. (61)

Africa is often> > cited as a worst case example of what could happen> > in

America despite figures that demonstrate that> > 99.5% of Africans do not have

AIDS, and among> > Africans who test HIV positive, 97% do not have> > AIDS.

(62)> > > > Unlike in the United States, AIDS in Africa may be> > diagnosed

based on four clinical symptoms -- fever,> > involuntary loss of 10% of normal

body weight,> > persistent cough, and diarrhea -- and HIV tests are> > not

required. (63) The four clinical AIDS symptoms> > are identical to those

associated with conditions> > that run rampant on the African continent such as>

> malaria, tuberculosis, parasitic infections, the> > effects of malnutrition,

and unsanitary drinking and> > bathing water. These symptoms are the result of>

> poverty and other problems that have troubled Africa> > and other developing

areas of the world for many> > decades. " > > > > Hope this helps. I can still

send you the AIDS> > articles with Dr. Duesberg if you like.> > > > Arthur> >

www.BestZapper.com> > www.ForgetDrugs.com> > > > > > HIV causes AIDS, HIV

does not> > cause AIDS, what?> > > > > > Hi,> > > > So many on the internet seem

to suggest that HIV> > doesn't cause AIDS> > and that stress, malnutrition, drug

use, etc. is> > the factor that> > causes it. So are they suggesting that all

the> > millions of people> > that died of AIDS thus far did not die from the> >

HIV virus (which they> > all have in common) and that they all died from> >

those other factors? > > > > I have was diagnosed as HIV+ on Nov. 2, 2006 and> >

once again on Feb.> > 6, 2007. So are the " dissidents " telling me that> > if I

avoid stress,> > malnutrition, intravenous drug use, multiple sex> > partners,

HIV drugs,> > etc., that I will not develop AIDS just because I> > was diagnosed

HIV+?> > See this is the question that the anti-AIDS> > activists are not> >

answering, at least not for me. Is it not true> > that ALL people with> > HIV

end up with a compromised immune system do to> > the loss of T-cells> > caused

by HIV?> > > > I live a VERY healthy lifestyle. I eat healthy> > food, do the

Beck> > Protocol (all 4 parts), exercise, drink 2 cups of> > green tea every> >

morning, sometimes use a regular zapper (just for> > the extra), recently> >

received 's parasite herbs (which I will be> > starting soon), take> >

vitamins, and looking into Transfer Factors> > (http://www.transferfactor.com).

I'm sure that I> > will be trying a> > bunch of different things, but these are

some that> > I am trying for> > now. According to orthodox medicine, this will

not> > stop me from> > developing AIDS, only the HIV drugs can delay the> >

onset of AIDS. Is> > that the truth, or what is the truth? Does anyone> > REALLY

know? I am> > beginning to wonder.> > > > Tavis> > P.S. Sorry to always sound

like I'm whining guys,> > but I'm just trying> > to gather information before I

make any life> > changing decisions!> > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions

of this message have been> > removed]> > > > > >

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