Guest guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 They will probably come out throughout the day. Perhaps in the evening you will dump a bunch of stones. Did you put butter on your toast? Joyce 1st liver cleanse did not really work..help?! > Hi all, > I did my first liver cleanse last night and i do't think it worked. i > MIGHT have gotten 1 stone out...it was green and floating but turned > to mush when i squeezed it with the chopstick i was using to " fish > around " . (sorry to be gross) > i don't know what i did wrong! i followed the instructions to a tee. > does anyone know, are there just some people that DON " T have stones? > should i try again? does it sometimes take a few trials before stuff > starting working? > the only things i could think of that might be a problem was 1) i ate > some grains (piece of toast, and 1/2 cup quinoa) the morning and > early afternoon of the flush (not after 2pm though..i was very > strict) 2) i stopped taking all medications (allegra and thyroid > meds) the morning of, not a few days before 3) i slept on my right > side. > any suggestions? i also drank tons of apple juice in the 48 hours > preceding the flush! i have heard that there are some herbs that > help. has anyone tried these with success? > any advice would be greatly appreciated. i am just wondering if its > possible i dont have any stones so this is why its not working. > thanks, > julie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 I have always eaten whole wheat with jelly toast two pieces in the am and two pieces with lunch and always gotten out 100's of stones. So I don't think it's that. Did you do the parasite cleanse or zap the week before the cleanse? she says you won't get out much if you don't do that. Also, I have always slept on my back, laid down as soon as I drank the olive oil and tried not to move at all. I have had to get up on two of them part way through the night because my daughter woke up. I had a yucky feeling in my stomach and it felt very full. But I still got out the same numbers of stones. Sorry it didn't seem successful. It's still early. Maybe more will come out soon. julkiemama wrote: >Hi all, >I did my first liver cleanse last night and i do't think it worked. i >MIGHT have gotten 1 stone out...it was green and floating but turned >to mush when i squeezed it with the chopstick i was using to " fish >around " . (sorry to be gross) >i don't know what i did wrong! i followed the instructions to a tee. >does anyone know, are there just some people that DON " T have stones? >should i try again? does it sometimes take a few trials before stuff >starting working? >the only things i could think of that might be a problem was 1) i ate >some grains (piece of toast, and 1/2 cup quinoa) the morning and >early afternoon of the flush (not after 2pm though..i was very >strict) 2) i stopped taking all medications (allegra and thyroid >meds) the morning of, not a few days before 3) i slept on my right >side. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Hi ; Don't worry about it..The same thing happened to me..Here I was expecting a fantastic collection of stones that I could brag about; and all that happened was a mighty " whooshing " of water with a couple of lonely looking stools floating about..It seemed to me to be a lot of overnight agony for nothing..But I did feel really good after that bowel movement which perhaps benefitted me somewhat..I'm not sure..I've been told that this sometimes happens and it takes a second flush to get the stones and even another one to get the larger stones..I haven't bothered again as I figure that it doesn't matter all that much anymore as the cancer I have is in regression.. I spoke to a woman at my church who is 99 years old and about to celebrate her first century..She was brought up in a Christian family and was taught well to stay away from the booze and the drugs and the many harmful things that we sometimes subject our bodies to..You wouldn't believe how active and alert she is; even driving her Oldsmobile; laughing and singing hyms and joining in the most animated conversations..Mrs stone told me that she hasn't done anything special re her diet, as she's basically a meat and potatoes type person (but with veges and all things in moderation).. She also told me that she'd never even thought of doing a liver or kidney flush..(I did ask her)...She told me that she's had a couple of operations, but didn't go into detail as to what they were, but whatever they were; she's in fine tune.. ;-) So I think that I'll relax now and try to resist getting carried away with all of these " bowel thangs " which is becoming like another religion.Hahahaha ;-) Don't worry about me though; as I'll continue on with the parasite maintenance program and the other protocols that are easy to keep doing, like the flaxoil and cottage cheese..the Barley greens with apricot seeds; no commercial meats, but just wild fish..etc... melville..;-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1st liver cleanse did not really work..help?! Hi all, I did my first liver cleanse last night and i do't think it worked. i MIGHT have gotten 1 stone out...it was green and floating but turned to mush when i squeezed it with the chopstick i was using to " fish around " . (sorry to be gross) i don't know what i did wrong! i followed the instructions to a tee. does anyone know, are there just some people that DON " T have stones? should i try again? does it sometimes take a few trials before stuff starting working? the only things i could think of that might be a problem was 1) i ate some grains (piece of toast, and 1/2 cup quinoa) the morning and early afternoon of the flush (not after 2pm though..i was very strict) 2) i stopped taking all medications (allegra and thyroid meds) the morning of, not a few days before 3) i slept on my right side. any suggestions? i also drank tons of apple juice in the 48 hours preceding the flush! i have heard that there are some herbs that help. has anyone tried these with success? any advice would be greatly appreciated. i am just wondering if its possible i dont have any stones so this is why its not working. thanks, julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 > I did my first liver cleanse last night and i do't think it worked. i > MIGHT have gotten 1 stone out... Hi ~ It's been my experience that you will continue to eliminate stones frequently throughout the day. Even through to 11 pm the same evening I did the cleanse I was eliminating them, surprisingly even after beginning to eat solid food. It's my understanding you must do the parasite and kidney cleanses first, so if you don't get many more stones and you didn't do the other two cleanses, this might be the reason you didn't get more stones. Happy Howling, & Critters Wolf Creek Ranch mailto:wolfcreek1@... http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/index.html Home of Whispering Winds Wholistic Animal Sanctuary " The person who says it cannot be done, should not interrupt the person doing it. " " Don't dream a dream, live a dream and let reality sleep. " ~ Enyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 did you use Dr.'s protocol?her protocol takes12-15 flushes to clean each segment of the liver. Joyce Kehoe <joycekehoe@...> wrote:They will probably come out throughout the day. Perhaps in the evening you will dump a bunch of stones. Did you put butter on your toast? Joyce 1st liver cleanse did not really work..help?! > Hi all, > I did my first liver cleanse last night and i do't think it worked. i > MIGHT have gotten 1 stone out...it was green and floating but turned > to mush when i squeezed it with the chopstick i was using to " fish > around " . (sorry to be gross) > i don't know what i did wrong! i followed the instructions to a tee. > does anyone know, are there just some people that DON " T have stones? > should i try again? does it sometimes take a few trials before stuff > starting working? > the only things i could think of that might be a problem was 1) i ate > some grains (piece of toast, and 1/2 cup quinoa) the morning and > early afternoon of the flush (not after 2pm though..i was very > strict) 2) i stopped taking all medications (allegra and thyroid > meds) the morning of, not a few days before 3) i slept on my right > side. > any suggestions? i also drank tons of apple juice in the 48 hours > preceding the flush! i have heard that there are some herbs that > help. has anyone tried these with success? > any advice would be greatly appreciated. i am just wondering if its > possible i dont have any stones so this is why its not working. > thanks, > julie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 did you use Dr.'s protocol?her protocol takes12-15 flushes to clean each segment of the liver. Joyce Kehoe <joycekehoe@...> wrote: They will probably come out throughout the day. Perhaps in the evening you will dump a bunch of stones. Did you put butter on your toast? Joyce 1st liver cleanse did not really work..help?! > Hi all, > I did my first liver cleanse last night and i do't think it worked. i > MIGHT have gotten 1 stone out...it was green and floating but turned > to mush when i squeezed it with the chopstick i was using to " fish > around " . (sorry to be gross) > i don't know what i did wrong! i followed the instructions to a tee. > does anyone know, are there just some people that DON " T have stones? > should i try again? does it sometimes take a few trials before stuff > starting working? > the only things i could think of that might be a problem was 1) i ate > some grains (piece of toast, and 1/2 cup quinoa) the morning and > early afternoon of the flush (not after 2pm though..i was very > strict) 2) i stopped taking all medications (allegra and thyroid > meds) the morning of, not a few days before 3) i slept on my right > side. > any suggestions? i also drank tons of apple juice in the 48 hours > preceding the flush! i have heard that there are some herbs that > help. has anyone tried these with success? > any advice would be greatly appreciated. i am just wondering if its > possible i dont have any stones so this is why its not working. > thanks, > julie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 thanks all for your comments! i really appreciate all the help and feedback! i think i might have jumped the gun a little...i thought the stones were supposed to come right in the evening or latest, early morning, but throughout the day i seem to have been having a little more luck. however, i am still a bit confused about if what i see are stones. i definatley see bright green bile floating arond but the stones are more tannish with maybe a few flecks of bright great and see more like small circles of stool...they are soft, but they do float. do you guys think these are stones or do stones have to be hard? i am so confused by now! sorry to be gross again, but i dont know who else to ask about this stuff. julie p.s. and no, i have not done the zapper but have been on extensive " cleansing " programs to rid parasites, cleanse kidney,etc. maybe i will look into doing the clark method for those as well. They will probably come out throughout the day. Perhaps in the evening you > will dump a bunch of stones. Did you put butter on your toast? > Joyce > > 1st liver cleanse did not really work..help?! > > > > Hi all, > > I did my first liver cleanse last night and i do't think it worked. i > > MIGHT have gotten 1 stone out...it was green and floating but turned > > to mush when i squeezed it with the chopstick i was using to " fish > > around " . (sorry to be gross) > > i don't know what i did wrong! i followed the instructions to a tee. > > does anyone know, are there just some people that DON " T have stones? > > should i try again? does it sometimes take a few trials before stuff > > starting working? > > the only things i could think of that might be a problem was 1) i ate > > some grains (piece of toast, and 1/2 cup quinoa) the morning and > > early afternoon of the flush (not after 2pm though..i was very > > strict) 2) i stopped taking all medications (allegra and thyroid > > meds) the morning of, not a few days before 3) i slept on my right > > side. > > any suggestions? i also drank tons of apple juice in the 48 hours > > preceding the flush! i have heard that there are some herbs that > > help. has anyone tried these with success? > > any advice would be greatly appreciated. i am just wondering if its > > possible i dont have any stones so this is why its not working. > > thanks, > > julie > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 The only cleanse that I did (liver cleanse); I did have a coffee with cream in the morning..Do you think that would have stopped the passing of stones? And would butter also stop them? mel ;-o Re: 1st liver cleanse did not really work..help?! I have always eaten whole wheat with jelly toast two pieces in the am and two pieces with lunch and always gotten out 100's of stones. So I don't think it's that. Did you do the parasite cleanse or zap the week before the cleanse? she says you won't get out much if you don't do that. Also, I have always slept on my back, laid down as soon as I drank the olive oil and tried not to move at all. I have had to get up on two of them part way through the night because my daughter woke up. I had a yucky feeling in my stomach and it felt very full. But I still got out the same numbers of stones. Sorry it didn't seem successful. It's still early. Maybe more will come out soon. julkiemama wrote: >Hi all, >I did my first liver cleanse last night and i do't think it worked. i >MIGHT have gotten 1 stone out...it was green and floating but turned >to mush when i squeezed it with the chopstick i was using to " fish >around " . (sorry to be gross) >i don't know what i did wrong! i followed the instructions to a tee. >does anyone know, are there just some people that DON " T have stones? >should i try again? does it sometimes take a few trials before stuff >starting working? >the only things i could think of that might be a problem was 1) i ate >some grains (piece of toast, and 1/2 cup quinoa) the morning and >early afternoon of the flush (not after 2pm though..i was very >strict) 2) i stopped taking all medications (allegra and thyroid >meds) the morning of, not a few days before 3) i slept on my right >side. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 What the other person meant presumably by saying not to have fat like butter in the morning, was that the gall bladder opens in response to fat or oil therefore if it opened earlier, then when you did the flush there would be no fluid in the gall bladder to assist the stones in coming out. Liz Re: 1st liver cleanse did not really work..help?! I have always eaten whole wheat with jelly toast two pieces in the am and two pieces with lunch and always gotten out 100's of stones. So I don't think it's that. Did you do the parasite cleanse or zap the week before the cleanse? she says you won't get out much if you don't do that. Also, I have always slept on my back, laid down as soon as I drank the olive oil and tried not to move at all. I have had to get up on two of them part way through the night because my daughter woke up. I had a yucky feeling in my stomach and it felt very full. But I still got out the same numbers of stones. Sorry it didn't seem successful. It's still early. Maybe more will come out soon. julkiemama wrote: >Hi all, >I did my first liver cleanse last night and i do't think it worked. i >MIGHT have gotten 1 stone out...it was green and floating but turned >to mush when i squeezed it with the chopstick i was using to " fish >around " . (sorry to be gross) >i don't know what i did wrong! i followed the instructions to a tee. >does anyone know, are there just some people that DON " T have stones? >should i try again? does it sometimes take a few trials before stuff >starting working? >the only things i could think of that might be a problem was 1) i ate >some grains (piece of toast, and 1/2 cup quinoa) the morning and >early afternoon of the flush (not after 2pm though..i was very >strict) 2) i stopped taking all medications (allegra and thyroid >meds) the morning of, not a few days before 3) i slept on my right >side. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Re: 1st liver cleanse did not really work..help?! What the other person meant presumably by saying not to have fat like butter in the morning, was that the gall bladder opens in response to fat or oil therefore if it opened earlier, then when you did the flush there would be no fluid in the gall bladder to assist the stones in coming out. Liz Thanks Liz; I may just try it again then..but ooooo I spent a horrid night with rumblegut.... ;-( mel.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 did you follow Dr.clark's protocol perfectly?every bit of it is important!otherwise you will not get the desired results.300+ cleanses experience. Mel <jonah@...> wrote: Re: 1st liver cleanse did not really work..help?! What the other person meant presumably by saying not to have fat like butter in the morning, was that the gall bladder opens in response to fat or oil therefore if it opened earlier, then when you did the flush there would be no fluid in the gall bladder to assist the stones in coming out. Liz Thanks Liz; I may just try it again then..but ooooo I spent a horrid night with rumblegut.... ;-( mel.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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