Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Sorry I am so late on this. What works great is a mixture of 80% colloidal silver + 20% DMSO (Dimethyl Sulphoxide). Or, 8oz + 2oz. of those ingredients. Pour the solution into a small bottle that used to hold saline nasal spray, then use the same way. Opens up sinuses and clears up infections like magic. If anyone here tries this, I would like to hear the feedback. Leo -------------------------------- > > hi all! my allergist wants me to try this 30mg pill 1-2 x/day as needed > for sinus congestion. i tried the OTC nose opener thing followed by > flonase and it started to wear off faster and faster. he thinks my > breathing problem is caused by my nose stuffed up and me breathing > through my mouth.... > > when i went to pick up the medicine (entex la) they thought it was no > longer available for some reason....that kinda worried me....so i was > curious if anyone has ever tried it or knows about it...? > > thanks!hope all are well! > shefy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 I use col..silver and h202 and it works.Have a great day _____ From: Dr [mailto:Dr ] On Behalf Of regehr2001 Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 8:24 AM Dr Subject: Re: sinus congestion Try CS+DMSO Sorry I am so late on this. What works great is a mixture of 80% colloidal silver + 20% DMSO (Dimethyl Sulphoxide). Or, 8oz + 2oz. of those ingredients. Pour the solution into a small bottle that used to hold saline nasal spray, then use the same way. Opens up sinuses and clears up infections like magic. If anyone here tries this, I would like to hear the feedback. Leo -------------------------------- > > hi all! my allergist wants me to try this 30mg pill 1-2 x/day as needed > for sinus congestion. i tried the OTC nose opener thing followed by > flonase and it started to wear off faster and faster. he thinks my > breathing problem is caused by my nose stuffed up and me breathing > through my mouth.... > > when i went to pick up the medicine (entex la) they thought it was no > longer available for some reason....that kinda worried me....so i was > curious if anyone has ever tried it or knows about it...? > > thanks!hope all are well! > shefy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Leo, I had a lung infection in 2004 that sent me to the hospital with breathing problems. They gave me several treatments of an inhaled steroid or cortisone which left me with a severe case of the shakes. I went to the silver list on and got this recipe for a nebulizer. 40% hydrogen peroxide, 40% CS, and 20% DMSO. After the very first 10 minute breathing treatment, my lungs opened right up. I did it for 10 minutes, every hour, for about 6 hours, for three days, and was free of symptoms after about the third treatment. The Hydrogen Peroixide is supposed to make the silver particles even smaller. Diane regehr2001 wrote: > Sorry I am so late on this. What works great is a mixture of 80% > colloidal silver + 20% DMSO (Dimethyl Sulphoxide). Or, 8oz + 2oz. of > those ingredients. > > Pour the solution into a small bottle that used to hold saline nasal > spray, then use the same way. Opens up sinuses and clears up > infections like magic. If anyone here tries this, I would like to hear > the feedback. > Leo > -------------------------------- > > > > > hi all! my allergist wants me to try this 30mg pill 1-2 x/day as needed > > for sinus congestion. i tried the OTC nose opener thing followed by > > flonase and it started to wear off faster and faster. he thinks my > > breathing problem is caused by my nose stuffed up and me breathing > > through my mouth.... > > > > when i went to pick up the medicine (entex la) they thought it was no > > longer available for some reason....that kinda worried me....so i was > > curious if anyone has ever tried it or knows about it...? > > > > thanks!hope all are well! > > shefy > > > > -- God Bless America! Diane Mackey Lowell, MA Captain , USAFA 2000 Eglin AFB, C-130 Pilot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Diane, I read about H202 inhibiting healing on HSI jenny thompson newsletter, then when my son gouged his flank on something requiring stitiches last month, I didn't put anything on it but a sterile gauze pad and rushed to the ER, where I told the Dr. I put nothing on, and not peroxide and he said the same thing.. " good, Do not put peroxide on wounds it slows healing " .(kills healthy bacteria??????) (not that I believe doctors, but thompson has the same attitude as me about the medical establishment and drugs etc, however she is still promoting seeing a dentist (who if you aren't careful are of the same ilk as MDs) I would like to hear evidence from both sides however because I am still curious about it. I've heard some folks even get intervenous H202, a few have died and of course quackwatch is probably all over that fiasco. I use peroxide to soak toothbrushes/tongue scraper, and also clean our parakeets water dish with it as well as occasional mouth rinse/tooth whitener. I know H202 will make a blond out of a brunette too, and damage your hair.. so with that in mind it gets some respect and caution. I have had sinus infection for several months now, treating so far with occasional garlic pills but think I should use a spray. My sinus is not plugged up, I can breathe ok, but my sense of smell is not working very well and I have a drainage indictive of infection, thick greenish. (unknown if bacterial or yeast???) I am assuming there would be healthy bacteria in the sinuses, would C/S and H202 kill them off as well? I know a alt. practioner in Sedona AZ been using CS in his sinus for a long time, and it is NOT working. He may have overdone it? (although climate in Sedona is extremely arid and not kind to tissues so he may be just needing to move elsewhere). He also zaps (Rife), uses Aqua Chi and has all the toys we covet and nothing is helping him. Diane Mackey <dmackey00@...> wrote: , I used 3% hydrogen peroxide in my nebulizer mix. Truthfully, I used H202 for everything at home. It is my deodorant, it cleans all my surfaces, I soak my feet in it, I can't recommend it enough for those who have large pores and acne, it works great on rashes (but causes itchiness at first) and I dilute it by half to spray or soak my produce before washing it. Diane --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 > > Of course. please use maybe 5-7% hydrogen peroxide then distilled water and > 3-5% Silver. > I hope you mean 3-5ppm silver! 3-5% silver - never heard of that. I think it is going to depend on one's tissues. I find 2% peroxide pretty irritating on skin at times. The tissues of my nasal passages are very delicate. I don't think they would be very happy with even 2% H2O2. YMMV, but I think a very dilute solution would be best. eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 I get the HSI newsletters also, and yes, does suggest the use of Doctors and Dentists, but I would guess that is to be politically correct, or keeping the FDA off her butt. H202 is an acid and caution should always be taken with such a product. If they say it damages good skin, then maybe it does, but I have never experienced such and all my cuts and those of my son's while growing up were treated with H202 without any damage being done. Scar free and skin grew back just fine. Yes, it is used intravenously with great success, thousands of times. When someone dies who has had such a treatment, guess what is to blame? The treatment of course. When the reality is that the person undergoing treatment is using it as a last resort and is beyond help. Way too many people wait until allopathic medicine is done creating havoc, and then they give up on the patient, leaving them worse off then when they started. Only then do people start looking at alternative medicine. If they started here in the first place, they would probably have a much better chance of getting well. For your sinus, I would highly recommend a product I have used for a few years now and will never be without. It is called Oxy Nasal Wash and can be found at oxygentherapies.com It sounds like you have post nasal drip and this stuff works great for that, and for cleaning out your sinus even when you don't realize it is infected with anything. None of us are breathing clean air! It has stabilized oxygen as it's main ingredient but also uses xylitol, which not only kills bacteria, but keeps it from attaching to your surface nasal cavity. If CS is not helping your friend, then his problem is not bacteria, fungus, or viral, but probably caused by toxic chemicals which could be his spray deodorant, cologne, household cleaners, chlorine from his water, neighborhood pollutants, etc which continues to bombard him. He will have to investigate to figure it out. Diane wrote: > Diane, I read about H202 inhibiting healing on HSI jenny thompson > newsletter, then when my son gouged his flank on something requiring > stitiches last month, I didn't put anything on it but a sterile gauze > pad and rushed to the ER, where I told the Dr. I put nothing on, and > not peroxide and he said the same thing.. " good, Do not put peroxide > on wounds it slows healing " .(kills healthy bacteria??????) (not that I > believe doctors, but thompson has the same attitude as me about > the medical establishment and drugs etc, however she is still > promoting seeing a dentist (who if you aren't careful are of the same > ilk as MDs) I would like to hear evidence from both sides however > because I am still curious about it. I've heard some folks even get > intervenous H202, a few have died and of course quackwatch is probably > all over that fiasco. I use peroxide to soak toothbrushes/tongue > scraper, and also clean our parakeets water dish with it as well as > occasional mouth rinse/tooth > whitener. I know H202 will make a blond out of a brunette too, and > damage your hair.. so with that in mind it gets some respect and caution. > I have had sinus infection for several months now, treating so far > with occasional garlic pills but think I should use a spray. My sinus > is not plugged up, I can breathe ok, but my sense of smell is not > working very well and I have a drainage indictive of infection, thick > greenish. (unknown if bacterial or yeast???) > I am assuming there would be healthy bacteria in the sinuses, would > C/S and H202 kill them off as well? I know a alt. practioner in Sedona > AZ been using CS in his sinus for a long time, and it is NOT working. > He may have overdone it? (although climate in Sedona is extremely arid > and not kind to tissues so he may be just needing to move elsewhere). > He also zaps (Rife), uses Aqua Chi and has all the toys we covet and > nothing is helping him. > > D > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 > H202 is an acid and caution should always be taken with such a product. D, I know a little bit about chemistry. I learned three definitions of " acid, " and I don't think H2O2 meets any of them. You can enlighten me perhaps. Or perhaps you misspoke. Peroxide lets off oxygen, and then you simply have water, which is non-acidic. The oxygen is not acid, so in what way is peroxide acid? E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 You got me there! I have always thought of h202 as an acid of some sort. I know nothing about chemistry, so I learned something today. I have a question for you. Why does it turn skin white for a short time? Diane e_j_anderson wrote: > > > H202 is an acid and caution should always be taken with such a > product. > > D, > > I know a little bit about chemistry. I learned three definitions of > " acid, " and I don't think H2O2 meets any of them. You can enlighten me > perhaps. Or perhaps you misspoke. Peroxide lets off oxygen, and then > you simply have water, which is non-acidic. The oxygen is not acid, so > in what way is peroxide acid? > > E > > -- God Bless America! Diane Mackey Lowell, MA Captain , USAFA 2000 Eglin AFB, MC-130 Pilot TDY sandbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Hydrogen peroxide nor Colloidal silver kill good bacteria, if that were so, I would be dead, I have been drinking both for 21 years. -- In Dr , <xander95608@...> wrote: > > Diane, I read about H202 inhibiting healing on HSI jenny thompson newsletter, then when my son gouged his flank on something requiring stitiches last month, I didn't put anything on it but a sterile gauze pad and rushed to the ER, where I told the Dr. I put nothing on, and not peroxide and he said the same thing.. " good, Do not put peroxide on wounds it slows healing " .(kills healthy bacteria??????) (not that I believe doctors, but thompson has the same attitude as me about the medical establishment and drugs etc, however she is still promoting seeing a dentist (who if you aren't careful are of the same ilk as MDs) I would like to hear evidence from both sides however because I am still curious about it. I've heard some folks even get intervenous H202, a few have died and of course quackwatch is probably all over that fiasco. I use peroxide to soak toothbrushes/tongue scraper, and also clean our parakeets water dish with it as well as occasional mouth rinse/tooth > whitener. I know H202 will make a blond out of a brunette too, and damage your hair.. so with that in mind it gets some respect and caution. > I have had sinus infection for several months now, treating so far with occasional garlic pills but think I should use a spray. My sinus is not plugged up, I can breathe ok, but my sense of smell is not working very well and I have a drainage indictive of infection, thick greenish. (unknown if bacterial or yeast???) > I am assuming there would be healthy bacteria in the sinuses, would C/S and H202 kill them off as well? I know a alt. practioner in Sedona AZ been using CS in his sinus for a long time, and it is NOT working. He may have overdone it? (although climate in Sedona is extremely arid and not kind to tissues so he may be just needing to move elsewhere). He also zaps (Rife), uses Aqua Chi and has all the toys we covet and nothing is helping him. > > Diane Mackey <dmackey00@...> wrote: > , > > I used 3% hydrogen peroxide in my nebulizer mix. Truthfully, I used > H202 for everything at home. It is my deodorant, it cleans all my > surfaces, I soak my feet in it, I can't recommend it enough for those > who have large pores and acne, it works great on rashes (but causes > itchiness at first) and I dilute it by half to spray or soak my produce > before washing it. > > > Diane > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Because it is killing the bad bacteria. > > > H202 is an acid and caution should always be taken with such a > > product. > > > > D, > > > > I know a little bit about chemistry. I learned three definitions of > > " acid, " and I don't think H2O2 meets any of them. You can enlighten me > > perhaps. Or perhaps you misspoke. Peroxide lets off oxygen, and then > > you simply have water, which is non-acidic. The oxygen is not acid, so > > in what way is peroxide acid? > > > > E > > > > > > > -- > God Bless America! > > Diane Mackey > Lowell, MA > Captain , USAFA 2000 > Eglin AFB, MC-130 Pilot TDY sandbox > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 > I have a question for you. Why does it turn skin white for a short time? > I'm not exactly sure, but probably for the same reason clorox will take the color out of your clothing. Clorox is chlorine bleach. But they also sell -- or they used to sell, I can't find it in the grocery store anymore -- peroxide bleach for clothes washing. Peroxide and chlorine are both highly reactive chemically, and I would guess the reason they turn things white is that they break down the molecules that give color to a substance. They react with more than just pigments, which is why peroxide or chlorine can cause a chemical burn at higher concentrations, and why they are both disinfectants, i.e. germ killing. I use peroxide as a mouthwash after brushing my teeth, and sometimes as a deodorant and a disinfectant. I think it is great stuff, but use with caution and moderation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 > > Hydrogen peroxide nor Colloidal silver kill good bacteria, if that > were so, I would be dead, I have been drinking both for 21 years. > Perhaps at the concentration you're taking, it does not completely kill them. I believe they would both inhibit bacteria, and certainly peroxide will kill them -- good or bad -- at a high enough concentration. At low concentrations, anaerobic bacteria may be more sensitive to peroxide than aerobic ones. It isn't really a simple question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 h2o2 is used by beauticians for bleaching the skin. dentists too use h2o2 for bleaching/whitening. don't throw h2o2 in sink/basin. it oxidises metal parts fast. bottle trap of my wash basin got leaky, I learnt this hard way. for this reason it is packaged in plastic bottles. h2o2 is highly oxidising. ============================== Diane Mackey wrote: > You got me there! I have always thought of h202 as an acid of some > sort. I know nothing about chemistry, so I learned something today. > > I have a question for you. Why does it turn skin white for a short time? > > Diane > > e_j_anderson wrote: > >> >>> H202 is an acid and caution should always be taken with such a >>> >> product. >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Medmidas, I have used H202 for at least 5 years as a cleaner and I spray it at least 4 times a day on my faucets, and I use it to clean out my sinks at the end of the day. I have not noticed any corrosion at all. I use 3% and I believe beauticians use 6%, which may be the difference. Diane Medmidas Eumx wrote: > h2o2 is used by beauticians for bleaching the skin. > dentists too use h2o2 for bleaching/whitening. > don't throw h2o2 in sink/basin. > it oxidises metal parts fast. > bottle trap of my wash basin got leaky, I learnt this hard way. > for this reason it is packaged in plastic bottles. > h2o2 is highly oxidising. > ============================== > > Diane Mackey wrote: > > You got me there! I have always thought of h202 as an acid of some > > sort. I know nothing about chemistry, so I learned something today. > > > > I have a question for you. Why does it turn skin white for a short time? > > > > Diane > > > > e_j_anderson wrote: > > > > >> > >>> H202 is an acid and caution should always be taken with such a > >>> > >> product. > >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 I used 6%. Now that you know why they avoid using metal caps, for h2o2 bottles, it is wiser not to throw it in sinks/faucets. It is packaged only in plastic bottles with plastic caps. They are not fools. There was no need to oppose. Try & enjoy supposition instead of opposition. Pls avoid misguiding members with your " one off " experience. ==================================== Diane Mackey wrote: > Medmidas, > > I have used H202 for at least 5 years as a cleaner and I spray it at > least 4 times a day on my faucets, and I use it to clean out my sinks at > the end of the day. I have not noticed any corrosion at all. I use 3% > and I believe beauticians use 6%, which may be the difference. > > Diane > > Medmidas Eumx wrote: > > >> h2o2 is used by beauticians for bleaching the skin. >> dentists too use h2o2 for bleaching/whitening. >> don't throw h2o2 in sink/basin. >> it oxidises metal parts fast. >> bottle trap of my wash basin got leaky, I learnt this hard way. >> for this reason it is packaged in plastic bottles. >> h2o2 is highly oxidising. >> ============================== >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Medmidas, Having a bad day? I was not opposing anyone. Just stating something that I have been doing for several years,.and have not seen a degradation of my stainless steel sinks or metal faucet handles. What does " one off " mean? Diane Medmidas Eumx wrote: > I used 6%. > Now that you know why they avoid using metal caps, for h2o2 bottles, it > is wiser not to throw it in sinks/faucets. > It is packaged only in plastic bottles with plastic caps. They are not > fools. > There was no need to oppose. > Try & enjoy supposition instead of opposition. > Pls avoid misguiding members with your " one off " experience. > ==================================== > Diane Mackey wrote: > > Medmidas, > > > > I have used H202 for at least 5 years as a cleaner and I spray it at > > least 4 times a day on my faucets, and I use it to clean out my > sinks at > > the end of the day. I have not noticed any corrosion at all. I use 3% > > and I believe beauticians use 6%, which may be the difference. > > > > Diane > > > > Medmidas Eumx wrote: > > > > > >> h2o2 is used by beauticians for bleaching the skin. > >> dentists too use h2o2 for bleaching/whitening. > >> don't throw h2o2 in sink/basin. > >> it oxidises metal parts fast. > >> bottle trap of my wash basin got leaky, I learnt this hard way. > >> for this reason it is packaged in plastic bottles. > >> h2o2 is highly oxidising. > >> ============================== > >> > >> > > -- God Bless America! Diane Mackey Lowell, MA Captain , USAFA 2000 Eglin AFB, MC-130 Pilot TDY sandbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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