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Thank you for this tidbit. Did you learn this form one of her books?

I have been using Arm & Hammer in the dishwasher with borax and for

housecleaning, so with this knowledge life again takes me in a new

direction. Thank goodness for Dr. , as how else would we learn

these things?

From where do you buy your baking soda?

-Lori Howland

>

> Dr. has found that the Arm and Hammer is now TOXIC (I think

with

> Benzene) but do not use ANYTHING Arm and Hammer has.....

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She discovered it some years back and there was a food chain in San Diego

called Lucky that theirs was still ok when Arm and Hammer went bad....also

she use to approve of Arm and Hammer washing soda but that got poluted

too.... Jeff now carries a baking soda at Self Health that is ok and I don't

know whther the Lucky brand still exist or if it does it go polluted or

now....borax is still ok ..... unless it very recently got polluted but I

doubt it....Back in the first years you could go to Dr. just for a

office visit and I use to go about every month to make sure I was totally

chemical free and find out the news lol....

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>Reply-Dr

>Dr

>Subject: Arm & Hammer Products

>Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:34:02 -0000

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>,

>

>Thank you for this tidbit. Did you learn this form one of her books?

>

>I have been using Arm & Hammer in the dishwasher with borax and for

>housecleaning, so with this knowledge life again takes me in a new

>direction. Thank goodness for Dr. , as how else would we learn

>these things?

>

>From where do you buy your baking soda?

>

>-Lori Howland

>

>

> >

> > Dr. has found that the Arm and Hammer is now TOXIC (I think

>with

> > Benzene) but do not use ANYTHING Arm and Hammer has.....

>

>

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Lucky brand stuff is usually manufactured by name brand companies then marketed

cheaper with the store name on it. Typically, the warehouse time of store brand

things is longer. I suspect Arm & Hammer made it for them, and a ton of it was

sitting in Lucky's warehouse during the time Dr. did her new testing.

Lucky's got bought out by Albertson's brand.

As for borax, much of it is mined in the town of Boron, Mojave desert area

east of Bakersfield Calif. According to my box, it is " made in sdale Ariz "

by " Dial " which isn't too far away. In the 70's I remember driving by town of

Boron and seeing a sign " home of 20 mule team borax " . That explained the piles

of white stuff there, out in the open once mined from seasonal lakes. My concern

about pollution would be from military exercises being conducted within 100 mile

radius of the location and also the rapid expansion of the town/city of

Bakersfield which main industry seems to be cattle. Borax can also be made

synthetically.

<tparker7600@...> wrote:

She discovered it some years back and there was a food chain in San Diego

called Lucky that theirs was still ok when Arm and Hammer went bad....also

she use to approve of Arm and Hammer washing soda but that got poluted

too.... Jeff now carries a baking soda at Self Health that is ok and I don't

know whther the Lucky brand still exist or if it does it go polluted or

now....borax is still ok ..... unless it very recently got polluted but I

doubt it....Back in the first years you could go to Dr. just for a

office visit and I use to go about every month to make sure I was totally

chemical free and find out the news lol....

>From: " houyhnhnm10 "

>Reply-Dr

>Dr

>Subject: Arm & Hammer Products

>Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:34:02 -0000

>

>,

>

>Thank you for this tidbit. Did you learn this form one of her books?

>

>I have been using Arm & Hammer in the dishwasher with borax and for

>housecleaning, so with this knowledge life again takes me in a new

>direction. Thank goodness for Dr. , as how else would we learn

>these things?

>

>From where do you buy your baking soda?

>

>-Lori Howland

>

>

> >

> > Dr. has found that the Arm and Hammer is now TOXIC (I think

>with

> > Benzene) but do not use ANYTHING Arm and Hammer has.....

>

>

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this was circa 1996 that I am speaking of and Dr. 's testing showed it

chemical free at that time however her testing showed that Arm and Hammer

wasn't ok....that of course can change at a moments notice as it did with

Arm and Hammer itself as in about 1995 or 6 she found arm and hammer baking

soda and also the washing soda to be ok....best to just order it from self

health and be sure.... Dr. at her recent seminar in Dallas which I

attended about this time last year revealed that her new discovery is that

most everything has radiation now.... she had a lab for us where she did

testing on food objects at random.....sad but true....I still think BORAX is

wonderful and feels great to wear clothes that are washed with them and I

don't like the prickly abrasive feeling I get from TIDE etc lol....

>From: <xander95608@...>

>Reply-Dr

>Dr

>Subject: RE: Arm & Hammer Products

>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 07:06:43 -0800 (PST)

>

>Lucky brand stuff is usually manufactured by name brand companies then

>marketed cheaper with the store name on it. Typically, the warehouse time

>of store brand things is longer. I suspect Arm & Hammer made it for them,

>and a ton of it was sitting in Lucky's warehouse during the time Dr.

>did her new testing. Lucky's got bought out by Albertson's brand.

> As for borax, much of it is mined in the town of Boron, Mojave desert

>area east of Bakersfield Calif. According to my box, it is " made in

>sdale Ariz " by " Dial " which isn't too far away. In the 70's I

>remember driving by town of Boron and seeing a sign " home of 20 mule team

>borax " . That explained the piles of white stuff there, out in the open once

>mined from seasonal lakes. My concern about pollution would be from

>military exercises being conducted within 100 mile radius of the location

>and also the rapid expansion of the town/city of Bakersfield which main

>industry seems to be cattle. Borax can also be made synthetically.

>

> <tparker7600@...> wrote:

> She discovered it some years back and there was a food chain in San

>Diego

>called Lucky that theirs was still ok when Arm and Hammer went bad....also

>she use to approve of Arm and Hammer washing soda but that got poluted

>too.... Jeff now carries a baking soda at Self Health that is ok and I

>don't

>know whther the Lucky brand still exist or if it does it go polluted or

>now....borax is still ok ..... unless it very recently got polluted but I

>doubt it....Back in the first years you could go to Dr. just for a

>office visit and I use to go about every month to make sure I was totally

>chemical free and find out the news lol....

>

>

> >From: " houyhnhnm10 "

> >Reply-Dr

> >Dr

> >Subject: Arm & Hammer Products

> >Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:34:02 -0000

> >

> >,

> >

> >Thank you for this tidbit. Did you learn this form one of her books?

> >

> >I have been using Arm & Hammer in the dishwasher with borax and for

> >housecleaning, so with this knowledge life again takes me in a new

> >direction. Thank goodness for Dr. , as how else would we learn

> >these things?

> >

> >From where do you buy your baking soda?

> >

> >-Lori Howland

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Dr. has found that the Arm and Hammer is now TOXIC (I think

> >with

> > > Benzene) but do not use ANYTHING Arm and Hammer has.....

> >

> >

>

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Happy Day Everyone,

& , thank you for your replies. Self Health Resource

Center (aka store.com) sells baking soda for $4.25/cup. At

that price, I guess I'll have to cut way down on my use of it. But

since I've been using Arm & Hammer & it is polluted, cutting way down

will be better for me & Mother Earth anyway.

Does anyone know where to order it in bulk cheaper than that? I am

also interested in ordering citric acid bulk because I use so much to

rinse my hair.

If I can find these chemicals in bulk, am I looking for USP grade or

something else? I'd appreciate input, if there is anyone out there

who orders baking soda or citric acid.

Regarding Borax, I note that store.com sells 20 Mule Team,

which I buy locally. , I understood you to indicate that

there might be variation in the source of this product. I had just

assumed since I was using 20 Mule Team, I had pure borax. Do I need

to rethink this too?

Thanks for everyone's contributions to this group. I am so thankful

that Dr. is doing the work she is doing. I hope some of you

got to the Health Expo in Austin recently. I need to order the DVD,

because I'm anxious to hear what she had to say! I got to meet her

in Chicago last summer and I am so happy for that opportunity.

-Lori Howland

> > > >

> > > > Dr. has found that the Arm and Hammer is now TOXIC (I

think

> > >with

> > > > Benzene) but do not use ANYTHING Arm and Hammer has.....

> > >

> > >

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I feel sure that Dr. feels confident with you using Borax from the

grocery store....remember however she says that ALL things have

problems....for very very very ill people, I believe she still suggests

putting a little borax in water and using the liquid to bathe with

etc...don't quote me on that one....she has me so healthy I don't fall into

that risk group lol....Thank Heavens for Dr. ....I would suggest that

you call Self Health and tell them about wanting it in bulk and seeing if

they can offer a bulk price maybe??? or suggest something for you....I

really just like Borax so I don't use the baking soda anymore... Also there

are testers that Self Health might can tell you about that you could have

them maybe test some of the other brands like LUCKY use to be ---so have

them test the other store brands that you have access too....if you luck out

there then they are usually a few pennies CHEAPER than Arm and Hammer

lol....

>From: " houyhnhnm10 " <howland@...>

>Reply-Dr

>Dr

>Subject: Re: Arm & Hammer Products

>Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:59:05 -0000

>

>Happy Day Everyone,

>

> & , thank you for your replies. Self Health Resource

>Center (aka store.com) sells baking soda for $4.25/cup. At

>that price, I guess I'll have to cut way down on my use of it. But

>since I've been using Arm & Hammer & it is polluted, cutting way down

>will be better for me & Mother Earth anyway.

>

>Does anyone know where to order it in bulk cheaper than that? I am

>also interested in ordering citric acid bulk because I use so much to

>rinse my hair.

>

>If I can find these chemicals in bulk, am I looking for USP grade or

>something else? I'd appreciate input, if there is anyone out there

>who orders baking soda or citric acid.

>

>Regarding Borax, I note that store.com sells 20 Mule Team,

>which I buy locally. , I understood you to indicate that

>there might be variation in the source of this product. I had just

>assumed since I was using 20 Mule Team, I had pure borax. Do I need

>to rethink this too?

>

>Thanks for everyone's contributions to this group. I am so thankful

>that Dr. is doing the work she is doing. I hope some of you

>got to the Health Expo in Austin recently. I need to order the DVD,

>because I'm anxious to hear what she had to say! I got to meet her

>in Chicago last summer and I am so happy for that opportunity.

>

>-Lori Howland

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr. has found that the Arm and Hammer is now TOXIC (I

>think

> > > >with

> > > > > Benzene) but do not use ANYTHING Arm and Hammer has.....

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

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I don't think you need to worry too much about Borax. (I think our food & air is

more polluted than Borax). In the 1950's it was advertised on T.V.as being 99%

pure if I recall right. I think it also said so on the box my mom always

bought, which back then I think was black and white. The box has changed and I

just read mine... no mention of 99%pure anymore. the town of Boron is in the

middle of nowhere.... desert, but there is white powder everywhere, open to

elements (air pollution, diesel belched from the nearby hiway traffic). Since

it is mined, the other 1% perhaps is just organic stuff that gets in it. As our

planet gets more and more polluted, I have to wonder if smog from the cities

wafts out there to the desert. (between Bakersfield, which is growing fast and

large... and Las Vegas, also in a building boom). I believe the mineral itself

is called Boron, and Borax is the name after processing. I think there is a

powdered hand soap called Boraxo, we used to

use that too, in the bathroom. I have no idea about any bulk buying, except

Winco has bins of stuff you could try. No brand labels on the bulk items though,

source unknown. Sea salt is cheap there .16/lb

houyhnhnm10 <howland@...> wrote: Happy Day Everyone,

Does anyone know where to order it in bulk cheaper than that? I am

also interested in ordering citric acid bulk because I use so much to

rinse my hair.

If I can find these chemicals in bulk, am I looking for USP grade or

something else? I'd appreciate input, if there is anyone out there

who orders baking soda or citric acid.

Regarding Borax, I note that store.com sells 20 Mule Team,

which I buy locally. , I understood you to indicate that

there might be variation in the source of this product. I had just

assumed since I was using 20 Mule Team, I had pure borax. Do I need

to rethink this too?

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I agree on the Borax....your mention of sea salt brings up a memory of Dr.

finding benzene on me....it was so slight and hard to tell if there or

not.... to make a long story short, we finally found it in ORGANIC SEA SALT

lol from Jimbo's naturally health store.... I switched to Self Health's lab

grade salt immediately lol...I used just a tiny pinch of salt here and there

and only on a few days of the week so it was VERY hard to track down....

>From: <xander95608@...>

>Reply-Dr

>Dr

>Subject: Re: Re: Arm & Hammer Products

>Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 07:03:17 -0800 (PST)

>

>I don't think you need to worry too much about Borax. (I think our food &

>air is more polluted than Borax). In the 1950's it was advertised on T.V.as

>being 99% pure if I recall right. I think it also said so on the box my

>mom always bought, which back then I think was black and white. The box

>has changed and I just read mine... no mention of 99%pure anymore. the

>town of Boron is in the middle of nowhere.... desert, but there is white

>powder everywhere, open to elements (air pollution, diesel belched from the

>nearby hiway traffic). Since it is mined, the other 1% perhaps is just

>organic stuff that gets in it. As our planet gets more and more polluted,

>I have to wonder if smog from the cities wafts out there to the desert.

>(between Bakersfield, which is growing fast and large... and Las Vegas,

>also in a building boom). I believe the mineral itself is called Boron,

>and Borax is the name after processing. I think there is a powdered hand

>soap called Boraxo, we used to

> use that too, in the bathroom. I have no idea about any bulk buying,

>except Winco has bins of stuff you could try. No brand labels on the bulk

>items though, source unknown. Sea salt is cheap there .16/lb

>

>houyhnhnm10 <howland@...> wrote: Happy Day Everyone,

>

>

>Does anyone know where to order it in bulk cheaper than that? I am

>also interested in ordering citric acid bulk because I use so much to

>rinse my hair.

>

>If I can find these chemicals in bulk, am I looking for USP grade or

>something else? I'd appreciate input, if there is anyone out there

>who orders baking soda or citric acid.

>

>Regarding Borax, I note that store.com sells 20 Mule Team,

>which I buy locally. , I understood you to indicate that

>there might be variation in the source of this product. I had just

>assumed since I was using 20 Mule Team, I had pure borax. Do I need

>to rethink this too?

>

>

>

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I've always used it as a laundry product, it brightens clothes and cleans. I

also use it to clean carpets & upholstery along with Baking soda. (be sure to

rinse out the nozzels good though, cuz the crystals build up and will clog

them).

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wash clothes, clean the house as you would normally use COMET for

example...cleaning the bathroom fixtures, kitchen counter tops, etc etc the

sink... I even throw it on the floor and use a mop to really get the floors

clean or use it just in the mop water if you want lesser strength and no

scratching maybe....USE IT FOR EVERYTHING! Remember that's all you got to

clean with that's decent ---lol

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>Subject: Re: Re: Arm & Hammer Products

>Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:42:19 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

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be careful not to use too much of it in carpets if you have a hepa filter on

your machine --- it will make it not work....remember though that carpets

are one of the WORSE things you can live with....get RID of it and use

hardwoods or tile or whatever.....that will be a REAL relief believe

me....it CLEARS the air....

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>Subject: Re: Re: Arm & Hammer Products

>Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:18:33 -0800 (PST)

>

>I've always used it as a laundry product, it brightens clothes and cleans.

>I also use it to clean carpets & upholstery along with Baking soda. (be

>sure to rinse out the nozzels good though, cuz the crystals build up and

>will clog them).

>

>Midge Dempsey <midge130@...> wrote: So what do you all use Borax for?

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Hi Midge,

I mix 1 tsp/cup very hot water and make both body soap and shampoo.

I put 1/2 cup into the washing machine as my laundry detergent.

I put 2 tsp into my dishwasher as detergent.

and I scrub sinks with it.

-Lori

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I just remembered that Boron is used for treating joint pain. I've got some

tablets I take occasionally.

<tparker7600@...> wrote: wash clothes, clean the house as

you would normally use COMET for

example...cleaning the bathroom fixtures, kitchen counter tops, etc etc the

sink... I even throw it on the floor and use a mop to really get the floors

clean or use it just in the mop water if you want lesser strength and no

scratching maybe....USE IT FOR EVERYTHING! Remember that's all you got to

clean with that's decent ---lol

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>Subject: Re: Re: Arm & Hammer Products

>Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:42:19 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

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I rent a duplex, landlord just replaced my carpets and I'm in a new 1 yr lease.

I don't have a hepa filter. I use ionizers to filter my air. I like the Sharper

Image Quadra best of all my machines. They've got some better ones now that

also kill germs and viruses.

I do housecleaning for an elderly lady and she dribbles on her way to the

bathroom so her carpet gets pretty wretched. I use Borax instead of carpet

shampoo, and baking soda. If it's really bad, I spray the carpet with white

vinegar first. After I'm done she sprays " Febreeze " the perfumey stuff. She

should have her carpet removed, but she wants it for warmth and traction as well

as a soft place to fall.

<tparker7600@...> wrote:

be careful not to use too much of it in carpets if you have a hepa filter on

your machine --- it will make it not work....remember though that carpets

are one of the WORSE things you can live with....get RID of it and use

hardwoods or tile or whatever.....that will be a REAL relief believe

me....it CLEARS the air....

>From:

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>Dr

>Subject: Re: Re: Arm & Hammer Products

>Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:18:33 -0800 (PST)

>

>I've always used it as a laundry product, it brightens clothes and cleans.

>I also use it to clean carpets & upholstery along with Baking soda. (be

>sure to rinse out the nozzels good though, cuz the crystals build up and

>will clog them).

>

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I am speaking of a hepa filter in you vaccum cleaner...the borax is grainy

and clogs up the machines do not make it ANY stronger than Dr. 's

recipe...get out of your lease lol or at the very least look for an apt with

lineoleum next year lol....of everything that Dr. says my all time

favorite is one of the last paragraphs of one of her books (forgotten which

one) on the last page and it says " The best kind of house is NO house at

ALL " . If you are really sick then you have to be off from your job anyway

and go to WHATEVER climate that you could be happy in outside lol.... Mexico

or somewhere like that at this time of year I guess.....and another point to

the story the way I interpet it is to make your home as close to the outside

as possible....get rid of junk, pull up carpet, get rid of fabric drapes,

etc etc etc...and of course you know that you are BREATHING chemicals 24

hours a day 7 days a week if you have any of those products in your

home....for example it is one thing to use CLOROX in your laundry but you

are adding it to your lifestyle even more if you leave it in the house 24/7

then you are breathing it 24/7.... if I were going to use it, I would sit it

in the back yard or something when I finished with it (for example if you

used it in the toilet bowl as Dr. allows) you never bring the bottle

in the house.... I use 35 percent hydrogen peroxide however and won't even

buy CLOROX....

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>Dr

>Subject: Re: Re: Arm & Hammer Products

>Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 20:55:16 -0800 (PST)

>

>I rent a duplex, landlord just replaced my carpets and I'm in a new 1 yr

>lease. I don't have a hepa filter. I use ionizers to filter my air. I

>like the Sharper Image Quadra best of all my machines. They've got some

>better ones now that also kill germs and viruses.

>

> I do housecleaning for an elderly lady and she dribbles on her way to

>the bathroom so her carpet gets pretty wretched. I use Borax instead of

>carpet shampoo, and baking soda. If it's really bad, I spray the carpet

>with white vinegar first. After I'm done she sprays " Febreeze " the

>perfumey stuff. She should have her carpet removed, but she wants it for

>warmth and traction as well as a soft place to fall.

>

> <tparker7600@...> wrote:

> be careful not to use too much of it in carpets if you have a hepa

>filter on

>your machine --- it will make it not work....remember though that carpets

>are one of the WORSE things you can live with....get RID of it and use

>hardwoods or tile or whatever.....that will be a REAL relief believe

>me....it CLEARS the air....

>

>

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> >Reply-Dr

> >Dr

> >Subject: Re: Re: Arm & Hammer Products

> >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:18:33 -0800 (PST)

> >

> >I've always used it as a laundry product, it brightens clothes and

>cleans.

> >I also use it to clean carpets & upholstery along with Baking soda. (be

> >sure to rinse out the nozzels good though, cuz the crystals build up and

> >will clog them).

> >

> >Midge Dempsey wrote: So what do you all use Borax for?

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I thought of the vacuum after I sent my email. oh well. Nah don't have a hepa

filter on vacuum either. The elderly lady has an antique vacuum and mine is

just a regular Sears canister. I don't vacuum very often. I'm not sick yet but

just working on my liver, which I think still has more stones in it.

<tparker7600@...> wrote: I am speaking of a hepa filter

in you vaccum cleaner...the borax is grainy

and clogs up the machines do not make it ANY stronger than Dr. 's

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Go on the liver herbs routine Dr. tells you about from San Francisco

Herb Company... I don't think Jeff sells them anymore....or at the very

least MILK THISTLE which is a part of those herbs....that company is great

and they are fresh and kosher processed ( which as you know Dr. says

usually they use newer better conveyor belts etc etc that eliminates such

stuff as fiberglass or whatever is in the belts.....

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>Dr

>Subject: Re: Re: Arm & Hammer Products

>Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 07:10:30 -0800 (PST)

>

>I thought of the vacuum after I sent my email. oh well. Nah don't have a

>hepa filter on vacuum either. The elderly lady has an antique vacuum and

>mine is just a regular Sears canister. I don't vacuum very often. I'm not

>sick yet but just working on my liver, which I think still has more stones

>in it.

>

> <tparker7600@...> wrote: I am speaking of a hepa

>filter in you vaccum cleaner...the borax is grainy

>and clogs up the machines do not make it ANY stronger than Dr. 's

>recipe...

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Hello ,

I was just reading your message. I just order some kidney and liver cleanse

formula from The San Francisco Herb Company. Do you know directions on how to

prepare the herbs? They come with no directions what so ever..

Reysean

<tparker7600@...> wrote: Go on the liver herbs routine Dr.

tells you about from San Francisco

Herb Company... I don't think Jeff sells them anymore....or at the very

least MILK THISTLE which is a part of those herbs....that company is great

and they are fresh and kosher processed ( which as you know Dr. says

usually they use newer better conveyor belts etc etc that eliminates such

stuff as fiberglass or whatever is in the belts.....

>From:

>Reply-Dr

>Dr

>Subject: Re: Re: Arm & Hammer Products

>Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 07:10:30 -0800 (PST)

>

>I thought of the vacuum after I sent my email. oh well. Nah don't have a

>hepa filter on vacuum either. The elderly lady has an antique vacuum and

>mine is just a regular Sears canister. I don't vacuum very often. I'm not

>sick yet but just working on my liver, which I think still has more stones

>in it.

>

> wrote: I am speaking of a hepa

>filter in you vaccum cleaner...the borax is grainy

>and clogs up the machines do not make it ANY stronger than Dr. 's

>recipe...

>

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do you have dr clarks book they are in there.... if not I will quote you

exactly but in general it is boil them covered- in corningware of course-

and let sit for 8 hrs and chill half and freeze half if you make up the full

formula she says.... I hope you are using separate herbs as she is calling

for and not some of their concocktion lol if so I have no earthly idea how

you would prepare them.... I of course use my quality water that I make for

the water to boil them in....

>From: Reysean Warren <blackkmann30@...>

>Reply-Dr

>Dr

>Subject: Re: Re: Arm & Hammer Products

>Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 08:12:53 -0800 (PST)

>

>Hello ,

>

>I was just reading your message. I just order some kidney and liver

>cleanse formula from The San Francisco Herb Company. Do you know

>directions on how to prepare the herbs? They come with no directions what

>so ever..

>

>Reysean

>

> <tparker7600@...> wrote: Go on the liver herbs

>routine Dr. tells you about from San Francisco

>Herb Company... I don't think Jeff sells them anymore....or at the very

>least MILK THISTLE which is a part of those herbs....that company is great

>and they are fresh and kosher processed ( which as you know Dr. says

>usually they use newer better conveyor belts etc etc that eliminates such

>stuff as fiberglass or whatever is in the belts.....

>

> >From:

> >Reply-Dr

> >Dr

> >Subject: Re: Re: Arm & Hammer Products

> >Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 07:10:30 -0800 (PST)

> >

> >I thought of the vacuum after I sent my email. oh well. Nah don't have

>a

> >hepa filter on vacuum either. The elderly lady has an antique vacuum and

> >mine is just a regular Sears canister. I don't vacuum very often. I'm

>not

> >sick yet but just working on my liver, which I think still has more

>stones

> >in it.

> >

> > wrote: I am speaking of a hepa

> >filter in you vaccum cleaner...the borax is grainy

> >and clogs up the machines do not make it ANY stronger than Dr. 's

> >recipe...

> >

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