Guest guest Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 > > I have red Dr. clark recommend to avoid copper and even drinking from > copper pipes. It is first time I heart about that. I am afraid to take > my supplement with calcium, magnezium, zink and 1 mg of copper now. > Do you think it is really can hurt even in small quantity? ==>Liz, I do not recommend taking zinc or copper. You'll get plenty of minerals on this diet plus the ocean sea salt recommended in my Electrolyte Drink. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 I would like to know why she thinks it is not needed. I heard that years ago and for a long time I omitted copper - by buying other minerals separately. However, everyone else says zinc must be balanced 3:1 with copper; and I was not getting any trace minerals. I do believe our soils are mineral deficient and we need to supplement. There are some minerals in the various " greens " drinks which I've had, but I now take liquid ionic minerals as well. Does anyone know what mineral supplement Dr. recommends? Tammy About copper I have red Dr. clark recommend to avoid copper and even drinking from copper pipes. It is first time I heart about that. I am afraid to take my supplement with calcium, magnezium, zink and 1 mg of copper now. Do you think it is really can hurt even in small quantity? Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 copper is very important for collagen, and for the immune system. Whoever takes zinc must balance it with copper not to create a deficiency. What is it that says about copper? Iris. ----- Original Message ----- From: imsinfo I red about copper danger from Dr. book and now I am afraid to take supplement with cancium, magnezium, zink and 1 mg of copper. What do you think about copper intake? Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 I dont remember reading that in her book. Of course I tend to forget a lot of things anymore... I find that interesting, because with horses, many times if a mare is nasty, we have been told to toss a copper pipe in the water tank because the copper helps settle them down. I had a gelding a few years ago that was so spooky, I had a hair mineral analysis done on him and found his iron count to be off the charts it was so high. His copper level was super low. He had come from an area with high iron in the water. I added a lot of copper to his diet for a couple of months and redid the test. The iron had come down only a little. He was still spooky, but not as bad. Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Hi Liz, You can take 3 mg each day. Do not exceed 3mg a day. I have heard of people taking copper and getting there hair color back. They say turning grey is a lack of minerals. Copper like all minerals are GOOD for you in the right amounts. Best taken with food. Blessings, Sharon > > I have red Dr. clark recommend to avoid copper and even drinking from > copper pipes. It is first time I heart about that. I am afraid to take > my supplement with calcium, magnezium, zink and 1 mg of copper now. > Do you think it is really can hurt even in small quantity? > > Liz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Hi everybody, it's me Herb.......... To start with there two basic types of copper, organic and in-organic. We will start with the in-organic, this is the copper we all have in our homes that we drink our water through, it is bassically poison and can cause a whole host of symptoms, some physicle, some mental or emotional. This water is actually considered " acid water " , which is why it will actually KILL certain fish...... I should know!! Now on the other hand ,there's organic copper, which is actually needed and is actually REQUIRED by the human body as an essential trace mineral, which the body need in order to function properly, they are called copper complex's which comprise of, copper ascorbate and copper salicylate, not to mention colloidal copper. The copper complex's are both powerful anti-inflamatories and one of the most powerful parasite killers which naturally coccors in nature. There IS a balance which MUST be maintained between the in take of copper and zinc " which is also a anti-inflamatory and parasite killer...... not to mention the fact that it actually kills cancer! Take time to look up " SCHWEITZER FORMULA " also look up COPPER AND ZINC SALICYLATES. Be Blessed, Herb --- heretoserve777 <heretoserve777@...> wrote: > Hi Liz, > > You can take 3 mg each day. Do not exceed 3mg a day. > I have heard of > people taking copper and getting there hair color > back. They say > turning grey is a lack of minerals. Copper like all > minerals are GOOD > for you in the right amounts. Best taken with food. > Blessings, Sharon > > > > > > I have red Dr. clark recommend to avoid copper and > even drinking from > > copper pipes. It is first time I heart about that. > I am afraid to > take > > my supplement with calcium, magnezium, zink and 1 > mg of copper now. > > Do you think it is really can hurt even in small > quantity? > > > > Liz > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 Hello, To correct the record. Copper is an element (metal) that can enter into combinations with organic or inorganic acids. If it reacts with sulfuric acid forms copper sulfate, an inorganic salt while if it reacts with salycilic acid forms a salicylate an organic salt. Copper itself is not organic or inorganic. Depending on the what it reacts with an organic or an inorganic acid can the formed COMPOUND termed organic or inorganic. The body has the ebility to unbond small amounts of inorganically bound copper and make the free metal react with an organic acid. We ingest a lot of copper sulfate used by the grape farmers as a surface insecticide. I do not know whether this dangerous proactice has been abolished in USA but just recently it was used in South American countries wherefrom we import grapes. Regards FCR > > > > > > I have red Dr. clark recommend to avoid copper and > > even drinking from > > > copper pipes. It is first time I heart about that. > > I am afraid to > > take > > > my supplement with calcium, magnezium, zink and 1 > > mg of copper now. > > > Do you think it is really can hurt even in small > > quantity? > > > > > > Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 Thank you for the posts on copper. I would like to give it a try as a supplement, in addition to the one in my diet. Sounds like the colloidal form is the one to go with, tho I would like to hear some personal experience with it (it is not cheap). Normally I like to use minerals in their organic state - herbal, etc. Colloidal copper is just a metal, only in an extremely small particles. Do not recall what Dr. said about copper, it has been a few years since I read " The cure for all diseases " . I wonder if she looked into colloidals? Look forward to a bit more info, Ilya Re: About copper Hello, To correct the record. Copper is an element (metal) that can enter into combinations with organic or inorganic acids. If it reacts with sulfuric acid forms copper sulfate, an inorganic salt while if it reacts with salycilic acid forms a salicylate an organic salt. Copper itself is not organic or inorganic. Depending on the what it reacts with an organic or an inorganic acid can the formed COMPOUND termed organic or inorganic. The body has the ebility to unbond small amounts of inorganically bound copper and make the free metal react with an organic acid. We ingest a lot of copper sulfate used by the grape farmers as a surface insecticide. I do not know whether this dangerous proactice has been abolished in USA but just recently it was used in South American countries wherefrom we import grapes. Regards FCR > > > > > > I have red Dr. clark recommend to avoid copper and > > even drinking from > > > copper pipes. It is first time I heart about that. > > I am afraid to > > take > > > my supplement with calcium, magnezium, zink and 1 > > mg of copper now. > > > Do you think it is really can hurt even in small > > quantity? > > > > > > Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 water oz brand is very small partical size & could pull bad copper out if it is a problem too. roger ruskymann <ruskymann@...> wrote: Thank you for the posts on copper. I would like to give it a try as a supplement, in addition to the one in my diet. Sounds like the colloidal form is the one to go with, tho I would like to hear some personal experience with it (it is not cheap). Normally I like to use minerals in their organic state - herbal, etc. Colloidal copper is just a metal, only in an extremely small particles. Do not recall what Dr. said about copper, it has been a few years since I read " The cure for all diseases " . I wonder if she looked into colloidals? Look forward to a bit more info, Ilya Re: About copper Hello, To correct the record. Copper is an element (metal) that can enter into combinations with organic or inorganic acids. If it reacts with sulfuric acid forms copper sulfate, an inorganic salt while if it reacts with salycilic acid forms a salicylate an organic salt. Copper itself is not organic or inorganic. Depending on the what it reacts with an organic or an inorganic acid can the formed COMPOUND termed organic or inorganic. The body has the ebility to unbond small amounts of inorganically bound copper and make the free metal react with an organic acid. We ingest a lot of copper sulfate used by the grape farmers as a surface insecticide. I do not know whether this dangerous proactice has been abolished in USA but just recently it was used in South American countries wherefrom we import grapes. Regards FCR > > > > > > I have red Dr. clark recommend to avoid copper and > > even drinking from > > > copper pipes. It is first time I heart about that. > > I am afraid to > > take > > > my supplement with calcium, magnezium, zink and 1 > > mg of copper now. > > > Do you think it is really can hurt even in small > > quantity? > > > > > > Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 Thanks, . I did not know about Water Oz. Looked into it now, and it sounds interesting. Colloids I had in mind were MesoColloids... (MesoCopper, etc.) They promote their way of making solution, vs. ionic forms. Here is the page: http://www.purestcolloids.com/ionic.htm This gets me very confused. Wonder if anyone can offer their opinion, personal experience? TIA, Ilya Re: About copper Hello, To correct the record. Copper is an element (metal) that can enter into combinations with organic or inorganic acids. If it reacts with sulfuric acid forms copper sulfate, an inorganic salt while if it reacts with salycilic acid forms a salicylate an organic salt. Copper itself is not organic or inorganic. Depending on the what it reacts with an organic or an inorganic acid can the formed COMPOUND termed organic or inorganic. The body has the ebility to unbond small amounts of inorganically bound copper and make the free metal react with an organic acid. We ingest a lot of copper sulfate used by the grape farmers as a surface insecticide. I do not know whether this dangerous proactice has been abolished in USA but just recently it was used in South American countries wherefrom we import grapes. Regards FCR > > > > > > I have red Dr. clark recommend to avoid copper and > > even drinking from > > > copper pipes. It is first time I heart about that. > > I am afraid to > > take > > > my supplement with calcium, magnezium, zink and 1 > > mg of copper now. > > > Do you think it is really can hurt even in small > > quantity? > > > > > > Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Hi Tia, if I understand your question correctly....the difference between colloids and ionics is this, it is very difficult to make colloidals at home due to the high amont of power needed, colloidals are about 20% particle and 80% liquid or (ionic)..... where as ionic is about 80% liquid or ionic and only 20% colloidal (particle). In the colloidal/ionic use, gold repairs, copper and or zinc are anti-inflamatories and restoratives and parasite killlers, silver is parasite/pathogen killers. As with silver, the colloidal form is best taken internally because the higher % of particles will reach their destination (cells), where as the ionic form will be destoryed by your gastric juices, thus not being as effective as the colloidal form because less particles reach the cells.Also the ionic form can be easily made at home. Herb --- ruskymann <ruskymann@...> wrote: > Thanks, . I did not know about Water Oz. Looked > into it now, and it sounds interesting. > Colloids I had in mind were MesoColloids... > (MesoCopper, etc.) They promote their way of making > solution, vs. ionic forms. > > Here is the page: > http://www.purestcolloids.com/ionic.htm > > This gets me very confused. Wonder if anyone can > offer their opinion, personal experience? > > TIA, > Ilya > > > > Re: About copper > > > > Hello, To correct the record. Copper is an element > (metal) that can > > > > enter into combinations with organic or inorganic > acids. If it reacts > > > > with sulfuric acid forms copper sulfate, an > inorganic salt while if > > > > it reacts with salycilic acid forms a salicylate an > organic salt. > > > > Copper itself is not organic or inorganic. Depending > on the what it > > > > reacts with an organic or an inorganic acid can the > formed COMPOUND > > > > termed organic or inorganic. > > > > The body has the ebility to unbond small amounts of > inorganically > > > > bound copper and make the free metal react with an > organic acid. > > > > We ingest a lot of copper sulfate used by the grape > farmers as a > > > > surface insecticide. I do not know whether this > dangerous proactice > > > > has been abolished in USA but just recently it was > used in South > > > > American countries wherefrom we import grapes. > > > > Regards > > > > FCR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody, it's me Herb........ .. > > > > > To start with there two basic types of copper, > organic > > > > > and in-organic. We will start with the in-organic, > > > > > this is the copper we all have in our homes that > we > > > > > drink our water through, it is bassically poison > and > > > > > can cause a whole host of symptoms, some physicle, > > > > > some mental or emotional. This water is actually > > > > > considered " acid water " , which is why it will > actually > > > > > KILL certain fish...... I should know!! > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 You can make your own for nextto nothing....... Herb --- ruskymann <ruskymann@...> wrote: > Thank you for the posts on copper. I would like to > give it a try as a supplement, in addition to the > one in my diet. > Sounds like the colloidal form is the one to go > with, tho I would like to hear some personal > experience with it (it is not cheap). > Normally I like to use minerals in their organic > state - herbal, etc. Colloidal copper is just a > metal, only in an extremely small particles. > > Do not recall what Dr. said about copper, it > has been a few years since I read " The cure for all > diseases " . I wonder if she looked into colloidals? > > Look forward to a bit more info, > Ilya > > Re: About copper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, To correct the record. Copper is > an element (metal) that can > > enter into combinations with organic or inorganic > acids. If it reacts > > with sulfuric acid forms copper sulfate, an > inorganic salt while if > > it reacts with salycilic acid forms a salicylate an > organic salt. > > Copper itself is not organic or inorganic. Depending > on the what it > > reacts with an organic or an inorganic acid can the > formed COMPOUND > > termed organic or inorganic. > > The body has the ebility to unbond small amounts of > inorganically > > bound copper and make the free metal react with an > organic acid. > > We ingest a lot of copper sulfate used by the grape > farmers as a > > surface insecticide. I do not know whether this > dangerous proactice > > has been abolished in USA but just recently it was > used in South > > American countries wherefrom we import grapes. > > Regards > > FCR > > > > > > > > > > > > I have red Dr. clark recommend to avoid copper > and > > > > even drinking from > > > > > copper pipes. It is first time I heart about > that. > > > > I am afraid to > > > > take > > > > > my supplement with calcium, magnezium, zink > and 1 > > > > mg of copper now. > > > > > Do you think it is really can hurt even in > small > > > > quantity? > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 WOW....... that was really very informative and interesting, I enjoyed very much reading your post, thank you. Herb --- cunsrialfrank <Cuns-Rial@...> wrote: > Hello, To correct the record. Copper is an element > (metal) that can > enter into combinations with organic or inorganic > acids. If it reacts > with sulfuric acid forms copper sulfate, an > inorganic salt while if > it reacts with salycilic acid forms a salicylate an > organic salt. > Copper itself is not organic or inorganic. Depending > on the what it > reacts with an organic or an inorganic acid can the > formed COMPOUND > termed organic or inorganic. > The body has the ebility to unbond small amounts of > inorganically > bound copper and make the free metal react with an > organic acid. > We ingest a lot of copper sulfate used by the grape > farmers as a > surface insecticide. I do not know whether this > dangerous proactice > has been abolished in USA but just recently it was > used in South > American countries wherefrom we import grapes. > Regards > FCR > > > > > > > > > I have red Dr. clark recommend to avoid copper > and > > > even drinking from > > > > copper pipes. It is first time I heart about > that. > > > I am afraid to > > > take > > > > my supplement with calcium, magnezium, zink > and 1 > > > mg of copper now. > > > > Do you think it is really can hurt even in > small > > > quantity? > > > > > > > > Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 hi, mr herb, i would like to ask you: i bought some raw herbs following some of dr clark cleanse such as kidney and bowel cleanse. i could not find all the herbs for the cleanse though. so they are raw and dirty with some still with soil or some dirty in it. should i cook the herbs with pre wash reverse osmosis water or i just cook then straight away as it is? please help and reply as soon as possible. thank you so much. monica. Dr@...: hrbjns@...: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:59:31 -0700Subject: Re: Re: About copper WOW....... that was really very informative andinteresting, I enjoyed very much reading your post,thank you. Herb--- cunsrialfrank <Cuns-Rial@...> wrote:> Hello, To correct the record. Copper is an element> (metal) that can > enter into combinations with organic or inorganic> acids. If it reacts > with sulfuric acid forms copper sulfate, an> inorganic salt while if > it reacts with salycilic acid forms a salicylate an> organic salt. > Copper itself is not organic or inorganic. Depending> on the what it > reacts with an organic or an inorganic acid can the> formed COMPOUND > termed organic or inorganic.> The body has the ebility to unbond small amounts of> inorganically > bound copper and make the free metal react with an> organic acid.> We ingest a lot of copper sulfate used by the grape> farmers as a > surface insecticide. I do not know whether this> dangerous proactice > has been abolished in USA but just recently it was> used in South > American countries wherefrom we import grapes.> Regards> FCR> > > > >> > > > I have red Dr. clark recommend to avoid copper> and> > > even drinking from > > > > copper pipes. It is first time I heart about> that.> > > I am afraid to > > > take > > > > my supplement with calcium, magnezium, zink> and 1> > > mg of copper now.> > > > Do you think it is really can hurt even in> small> > > quantity?> > > > > > > > Liz> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 hi, mr herb, i would like to ask you: i bought some raw herbs following some of dr clark cleanse such as kidney and bowel cleanse. i could not find all the herbs for the cleanse though. so they are raw and dirty with some still with soil or some dirty in it. should i cook the herbs with pre wash reverse osmosis water or i just cook then straight away as it is? please help and reply as soon as possible. thank you so much. monica. Dr@...: hrbjns@...: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:59:31 -0700Subject: Re: Re: About copper WOW....... that was really very informative andinteresting, I enjoyed very much reading your post,thank you. Herb--- cunsrialfrank <Cuns-Rial@...> wrote:> Hello, To correct the record. Copper is an element> (metal) that can > enter into combinations with organic or inorganic> acids. If it reacts > with sulfuric acid forms copper sulfate, an> inorganic salt while if > it reacts with salycilic acid forms a salicylate an> organic salt. > Copper itself is not organic or inorganic. Depending> on the what it > reacts with an organic or an inorganic acid can the> formed COMPOUND > termed organic or inorganic.> The body has the ebility to unbond small amounts of> inorganically > bound copper and make the free metal react with an> organic acid.> We ingest a lot of copper sulfate used by the grape> farmers as a > surface insecticide. I do not know whether this> dangerous proactice > has been abolished in USA but just recently it was> used in South > American countries wherefrom we import grapes.> Regards> FCR> > > > >> > > > I have red Dr. clark recommend to avoid copper> and> > > even drinking from > > > > copper pipes. It is first time I heart about> that.> > > I am afraid to > > > take > > > > my supplement with calcium, magnezium, zink> and 1> > > mg of copper now.> > > > Do you think it is really can hurt even in> small> > > quantity?> > > > > > > > Liz> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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