Re: zapper and gall bladder flush

[Guest guest]

You're experiencing massive amounts of die-off from using the zapper for such

long intervals. You are killing many, many parasites very rapidly and you're

body is having trouble eliminating them (hence the flu-like symptoms, diarrhea,

etc. It's all dead parasites being eliminated through your liver, kidneys and

bowels.) Try using the zapper only once a day for the recommended 3 intervals

of 7 minutes on, 20 minutes off (total time, less than an hour.) You may also

switch to the parasite killing herbs of black walnut, clove and wormwood. Don't

do the liver/gallbladder cleanse without using the parasite herbs first or you

may feel nauseaus for a few days. If you can't get parasite herbs, Dr.

recommends zapping ONCE a day (the previous interval schedule) for a week prior

to a liver /gallbladder cleanse. If you don't take epsom salts during a cleanse

you won't get stones because the epsom salts open the bile ducts. Without them,

the stones stay stuck. I

have no recommendations for improving the taste, I haven't found any but after

the first cleanse, it's not that bad. You just have to get used to it. Good

Luck.

Stonehaven Farms <stonehaven@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I purchased a Zapper last year. I forget the make of it but a good

friend of mine uses them and sells them. She finds them to be very good.

I used it daily 24/7 for several days late last summer...within 3 days I

had a lot of digestive upset, diarrhea, headache etc and liverish symptoms.

I had to stop using it. Initially I did not relate the symptoms to the

Zapper as I had also started on some Magnesium supplement for muscle

tension and in the past magnesium has also given me loose BM's.

I finally felt so sick I had to stop using the Zapper. Only then did the

symptoms alleviate. I used the Magnesium alter and had no symptoms so it

was the Zapper.

Now I find I can only use it for about a day or my bowel movements get

loose and I start to feel nauseous.

I do feel that the Zapper did help reduce the candida in my system while

I was able to wear it and I was very disssapointed I could not continue

with it.

The symptoms made it impossible for me to function...I really felt awful

and I had felt fine before I used it.

I have a sensitive constitution...when I used Dr. Cabots liver tonic 2

years ago to do a liver cleanse I had to start it at well below the recc

levels and it took me a full 8 months to get up to the recc dose. Mind

you I felt much better afterwards but I find a lot of products just too

strong for me .

Has anyone else had this issue with a Zapper ?

Also I am completing a 3 week herbal cleanse that is very gentle. I felt

fluey for the first 3 days but then fine ( similar symptoms to when I

use the Zapper) and the cleanse is a bowel cleanse and whole body

cleanse. It is designed to be used for one week or for a total of 3 weeks.

I was very happy I could take it and not feel knocked off my feet.

I am planning to do a gall bladder flush tomorrow. It seemed like the

right time to do it after taking this herbal protocol for 3 weeks.

I have also had the Zapper on for a total of 3 days the last week, just

in the daytime. About 10 hours each day. Today I feel rather yucky :-(

I know that Dr. 's protocol for the gall bladder flush strongly

recc doing the parasite cleanse and the bowel and kidney cleanse prior.

I do not have easy access to these products and to be truthful I am not

sure I could tolerate them which is why I took the one I am taking now.

Has anyone had good success with the gall bladder flush without doing

these specific Dr. cleanses first ?

I did a gall bladder flush a couple of years ago but was unable to get

down even a sip of Epsom salts...I thought I would vomit immediately. I

am going to try adding some effervescent vitamin C to it. It tastes like

Tang ( from my childhood) and might help the Epsom salts be a little

more palatable.

When I did the flush a few years ago NOTHING came out so I want to try

it again and try with the Epsom salts.

Does anyone have any suggestions for how to get the salts down and not

puke ?

After I took the oil/juice potion the last time I sucked on a piece of

candied ginger and that helped .

Thanks in advance.

Joanne

Ontario, Canada

[Guest guest]

" have no recommendations for improving the taste, I haven't found any but after

the first cleanse, it's not that bad. You just have to get used to it. Good

Luck. "

Has anybody ever tried putting the Epsom salts in capsules and swollowing them?

I don't have a problem with the epsom salts, but for some people it is an

insurmountable task. I know some that add a powdered flavour and vitamin C.

Although the powdered flavour must be full of Azo dyes and other toxins the

cleanse goes very well and many stones are removed.

Getting the stones out is the priority, at first.

Dean

[Guest guest]

Joanne,

I know how you are feeling because I have a sensitive system also. I

purchased Epsom salts but haven't used them yet. I am also using a Gentle

Cleanse (not Dr. s) because I had tried a strong one and just about

keeled over and died from the Die-off. I feel your suffering!

Alison

_____

From: Dr [mailto:Dr ] On Behalf Of

Stonehaven Farms

Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 12:42 PM

Dr

Subject: zapper and gall bladder flush

Hi everyone,

I purchased a Zapper last year. I forget the make of it but a good

friend of mine uses them and sells them. She finds them to be very good.

I used it daily 24/7 for several days late last summer...within 3 days I

had a lot of digestive upset, diarrhea, headache etc and liverish symptoms.

I had to stop using it. Initially I did not relate the symptoms to the

Zapper as I had also started on some Magnesium supplement for muscle

tension and in the past magnesium has also given me loose BM's.

I finally felt so sick I had to stop using the Zapper. Only then did the

symptoms alleviate. I used the Magnesium alter and had no symptoms so it

was the Zapper.

Now I find I can only use it for about a day or my bowel movements get

loose and I start to feel nauseous.

I do feel that the Zapper did help reduce the candida in my system while

I was able to wear it and I was very disssapointed I could not continue

with it.

The symptoms made it impossible for me to function...I really felt awful

and I had felt fine before I used it.

I have a sensitive constitution...when I used Dr. Cabots liver tonic 2

years ago to do a liver cleanse I had to start it at well below the recc

levels and it took me a full 8 months to get up to the recc dose. Mind

you I felt much better afterwards but I find a lot of products just too

strong for me .

Has anyone else had this issue with a Zapper ?

Also I am completing a 3 week herbal cleanse that is very gentle. I felt

fluey for the first 3 days but then fine ( similar symptoms to when I

use the Zapper) and the cleanse is a bowel cleanse and whole body

cleanse. It is designed to be used for one week or for a total of 3 weeks.

I was very happy I could take it and not feel knocked off my feet.

I am planning to do a gall bladder flush tomorrow. It seemed like the

right time to do it after taking this herbal protocol for 3 weeks.

I have also had the Zapper on for a total of 3 days the last week, just

in the daytime. About 10 hours each day. Today I feel rather yucky :-(

I know that Dr. 's protocol for the gall bladder flush strongly

recc doing the parasite cleanse and the bowel and kidney cleanse prior.

I do not have easy access to these products and to be truthful I am not

sure I could tolerate them which is why I took the one I am taking now.

Has anyone had good success with the gall bladder flush without doing

these specific Dr. cleanses first ?

I did a gall bladder flush a couple of years ago but was unable to get

down even a sip of Epsom salts...I thought I would vomit immediately. I

am going to try adding some effervescent vitamin C to it. It tastes like

Tang ( from my childhood) and might help the Epsom salts be a little

more palatable.

When I did the flush a few years ago NOTHING came out so I want to try

it again and try with the Epsom salts.

Does anyone have any suggestions for how to get the salts down and not

puke ?

After I took the oil/juice potion the last time I sucked on a piece of

candied ginger and that helped .

Thanks in advance.

Joanne

Ontario, Canada

[Guest guest]

I haven't tasted Epsom Salts but the best way to not taste something is to

pinch your nose shut when swallowing. Smell is most of how you taste.

Alison

_____

[Guest guest]

Hi,

24/7 " Too much is too bad "

Moderation is needed.

Herx is common.

Stop for sometime till herx is over.

After a break, start again.

=========================

zapper and gall bladder flush

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I purchased a Zapper last year. I forget the make of it but a good

> friend of mine uses them and sells them. She finds them to be very good.

>

> I used it daily 24/7 for several days late last summer...within 3 days I

> had a lot of digestive upset, diarrhea, headache etc and liverish

> symptoms.

>

> I had to stop using it.

[Guest guest]

> Borberg wrote: You're experiencing massive amounts of die-off

from using the zapper for such long intervals. You are killing many,

many parasites >very rapidly and you're body is having trouble

eliminating them (hence the flu-like symptoms, diarrhea, etc. It's all

dead parasites being eliminated >through your liver, kidneys and

bowels.) Try using the zapper only once a day for the recommended 3

intervals of 7 minutes on, 20 minutes off (total >time, less than an

hour.)

>Joanne,

>I know how you are feeling because I have a sensitive system also. I

>purchased Epsom salts but haven't used them yet. I am also using a Gentle

>Cleanse (not Dr. s) because I had tried a strong one and just about

>keeled over and died from the Die-off. I feel your suffering!

>Alison

Thank you and Alison,

I was in the health food store yesterday and did find a cleansing

protocol than starts off with a gentle detox ( which I may be able to

skip as I have just complete a 3 week one from another company) then

graduates to a stronger one for 15 days , then a parasite cleanse, a

candida cleanse and a liver detox.

ReNew Life is the company.

I am going to call the company today and ask some questions. The

parasite detox just sounds like it targets bowel bugs so may not do much

for ones in the liver etc.

- my Zapper is not a Dr. one. It is a Terminator Zapper. I

think it says not to use for less than 10 minutes . I could that over an

hour, 10 on 20 off, 10 on...but not for awhile. I will wait. I feel

awful today ;-) My daughter also has an upset stomach and I am beginning

to wonder if we both have a slight case of food poisoning as we both

ate something new the other day....and it was about 3 hours after I had

it that my symptoms got worse. So possibly I have a double whammy going on.

I will hold off on the gall bladder flush for now and look into the

above cleansing regimen, see how I can tolerate it and do the flush in

few months when I have completed it. I do not have any gall bladder

symptoms per say so I can wait.

Taste of Epsom Salts: I found the discussion forum on Cure Zone and got

some great suggestions ! Instead of dissolving the ES in 3 cups of

water just do it in 1 cup, take 1/4 cup of this ( 1 swallow and it is

down) followed by 1/2 cup water to make up the 3/4 cup total. One person

adds Stevia to the full 3/4 cup dose ( about 3 Tbsp) to kill off the

bitterness, some people put the ES into the empty gel caps you can buy

at the HFS and take it that way ( about 12 caps) followed by the water.

When I do it I am going to try the 1/4 cup method and add I dissolved

effervescent Vitamin C tab which on it's own tastes like orange drink.

Thanks again for the comments and suggestions. I must say it sucks to be

so sensitive...one wonders when , if ever, that die off doesn't try and

die you off :-)

I was very happy that the cleansing reaction I had to the herbal

products I am using now only lasted 3 days and were just mild fluey

symptoms. Day 4 I felt fine...tho it was easier to stick to a cleansing

diet for the first few days when I felt a bit sick LOL !

Joanne

>

[Guest guest]

LOL!!!! If only that worked! They are VILE even with the nose plugging

trick! You just have to suck it up. It's worth it.

Lorna

>

>

>

> I haven't tasted Epsom Salts but the best way to not taste something

is to

> pinch your nose shut when swallowing. Smell is most of how you taste.

>

>

>

> Alison

>

> _____

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Why did you decide to use 24/7? This is wrong. Not more than 8 hours/day!. And

this is in case of advanced cancers. All the experimentation with your body

should be reasonable. Don't forget to remove all metal and the watch before

using the zapper.

Nina

Stonehaven Farms <stonehaven@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I purchased a Zapper last year. I forget the make of it but a good

friend of mine uses them and sells them. She finds them to be very good.

I used it daily 24/7 for several days late last summer...within 3 days I

had a lot of digestive upset, diarrhea, headache etc and liverish symptoms.

I had to stop using it. Initially I did not relate the symptoms to the

Zapper as I had also started on some Magnesium supplement for muscle

tension and in the past magnesium has also given me loose BM's.

I finally felt so sick I had to stop using the Zapper. Only then did the

symptoms alleviate. I used the Magnesium alter and had no symptoms so it

was the Zapper.

Now I find I can only use it for about a day or my bowel movements get

loose and I start to feel nauseous.

I do feel that the Zapper did help reduce the candida in my system while

I was able to wear it and I was very disssapointed I could not continue

with it.

The symptoms made it impossible for me to function...I really felt awful

and I had felt fine before I used it.

I have a sensitive constitution...when I used Dr. Cabots liver tonic 2

years ago to do a liver cleanse I had to start it at well below the recc

levels and it took me a full 8 months to get up to the recc dose. Mind

you I felt much better afterwards but I find a lot of products just too

strong for me .

Has anyone else had this issue with a Zapper ?

Also I am completing a 3 week herbal cleanse that is very gentle. I felt

fluey for the first 3 days but then fine ( similar symptoms to when I

use the Zapper) and the cleanse is a bowel cleanse and whole body

cleanse. It is designed to be used for one week or for a total of 3 weeks.

I was very happy I could take it and not feel knocked off my feet.

I am planning to do a gall bladder flush tomorrow. It seemed like the

right time to do it after taking this herbal protocol for 3 weeks.

I have also had the Zapper on for a total of 3 days the last week, just

in the daytime. About 10 hours each day. Today I feel rather yucky :-(

I know that Dr. 's protocol for the gall bladder flush strongly

recc doing the parasite cleanse and the bowel and kidney cleanse prior.

I do not have easy access to these products and to be truthful I am not

sure I could tolerate them which is why I took the one I am taking now.

Has anyone had good success with the gall bladder flush without doing

these specific Dr. cleanses first ?

I did a gall bladder flush a couple of years ago but was unable to get

down even a sip of Epsom salts...I thought I would vomit immediately. I

am going to try adding some effervescent vitamin C to it. It tastes like

Tang ( from my childhood) and might help the Epsom salts be a little

more palatable.

When I did the flush a few years ago NOTHING came out so I want to try

it again and try with the Epsom salts.

Does anyone have any suggestions for how to get the salts down and not

puke ?

After I took the oil/juice potion the last time I sucked on a piece of

candied ginger and that helped .

Thanks in advance.

Joanne

Ontario, Canada

[Guest guest]

Because for this particular Zapper I think that is what it recc.

I will have to find the info sheet.

When I do I will post what it says :-)

Joanne

nina pavlotsky wrote:

> Hi,

> Why did you decide to use 24/7? This is wrong.

[Guest guest]

Instead of mixing Epsom salt with water, I fill 00-sized capsules with the

right amount of them.

Swallowing capsules is easier than drinking " bitter water " as my kids call

it, and the results are just as phenomenal...

Luigi

Re: zapper and gall bladder flush

> LOL!!!! If only that worked! They are VILE even with the nose plugging

> trick! You just have to suck it up. It's worth it.

>

> Lorna

>

>

>

>>

>>

>>

>> I haven't tasted Epsom Salts but the best way to not taste something

> is to

>> pinch your nose shut when swallowing. Smell is most of how you taste.

>>

>>

>>

>> Alison

>>

>> _____

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Joanne,

I do long term zapping too, but I tend to only do it for 6 to 8 hours

at a time. And for absolutely sure, you NEED to take a good probiotic

to counteract the zapping of your good bacteria immediately after you

stop zapping. It kills all bacteria, and the long term zapping gets

into the bowls despite what Dr. says, I think, and kills the

good bacteria there along with the bad.

As sensitive as your system sounds, I wonder if you don't have

something like what I was dealing with. I found the zapping was

killing something in my stomach lining which in turn was killing my

stomach lining, and my stomach and digestive system was getting pretty

sensitive to the point where I couldn't do the epsom salts either. I

am pretty much past that, finally!, by taking aloe vera juice several

times a day and also glutamine before I zap. (Seems to help keep the

damage to a minimum) and I also take a little bit of the HC1 to help

with digestion until my stomach fully recovers.

I also have a magnetic pulser from the Bob Beck protocol (his work is

amazing with its effectiveness against virus/bacteria, but doesn't

deal with parasites) and I daily pulse my stomach area to help get rid

of whatever that pathogen was. It is more effective than zapping but

both together is amazingly effective. Oddly enough, neither the Beck

list nor this one do any cross over. I am guessing if Dr. were

to try the pulser, especially, she would be astonished. And Beck

never considered parasites, but had he known of 's work, (of

course I am only guessing he didn't)who knows what they could have

come up with together!

Anyway, I recall someone here saying they take the epsom salts in a

capsule form as the salts are really just magnesium (can't recall what

form), but that might be an option if you can't stand the taste. I

don't know what her dosages were though. Perhaps someone else knows

that? So, good luck with your efforts!

Annette

>

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I purchased a Zapper last year. I forget the make of it but a good

> friend of mine uses them and sells them. She finds them to be very good.

>

> I used it daily 24/7 for several days late last summer...within 3

days I

> had a lot of digestive upset, diarrhea, headache etc and liverish

symptoms.

>

> I had to stop using it. Initially I did not relate the symptoms to the

> Zapper as I had also started on some Magnesium supplement for muscle

> tension and in the past magnesium has also given me loose BM's.

>

> I finally felt so sick I had to stop using the Zapper. Only then did

the

> symptoms alleviate. I used the Magnesium alter and had no symptoms

so it

> was the Zapper.

>

> Now I find I can only use it for about a day or my bowel movements get

> loose and I start to feel nauseous.

>

> I do feel that the Zapper did help reduce the candida in my system

while

> I was able to wear it and I was very disssapointed I could not continue

> with it.

>

> The symptoms made it impossible for me to function...I really felt

awful

> and I had felt fine before I used it.

>

> I have a sensitive constitution...when I used Dr. Cabots liver tonic 2

> years ago to do a liver cleanse I had to start it at well below the

recc

> levels and it took me a full 8 months to get up to the recc dose. Mind

> you I felt much better afterwards but I find a lot of products just too

> strong for me .

>

> Has anyone else had this issue with a Zapper ?

>

> Also I am completing a 3 week herbal cleanse that is very gentle. I

felt

> fluey for the first 3 days but then fine ( similar symptoms to when I

> use the Zapper) and the cleanse is a bowel cleanse and whole body

> cleanse. It is designed to be used for one week or for a total of 3

weeks.

>

> I was very happy I could take it and not feel knocked off my feet.

>

> I am planning to do a gall bladder flush tomorrow. It seemed like the

> right time to do it after taking this herbal protocol for 3 weeks.

>

> I have also had the Zapper on for a total of 3 days the last week, just

> in the daytime. About 10 hours each day. Today I feel rather yucky :-(

>

> I know that Dr. 's protocol for the gall bladder flush strongly

> recc doing the parasite cleanse and the bowel and kidney cleanse

prior.

> I do not have easy access to these products and to be truthful I am

not

> sure I could tolerate them which is why I took the one I am taking now.

>

> Has anyone had good success with the gall bladder flush without doing

> these specific Dr. cleanses first ?

>

> I did a gall bladder flush a couple of years ago but was unable to get

> down even a sip of Epsom salts...I thought I would vomit immediately. I

> am going to try adding some effervescent vitamin C to it. It tastes

like

> Tang ( from my childhood) and might help the Epsom salts be a little

> more palatable.

>

> When I did the flush a few years ago NOTHING came out so I want to try

> it again and try with the Epsom salts.

>

> Does anyone have any suggestions for how to get the salts down and not

> puke ?

>

> After I took the oil/juice potion the last time I sucked on a piece of

> candied ginger and that helped .

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Joanne

> Ontario, Canada

>

[Guest guest]

> And for absolutely sure, you NEED to take a good probiotic

> to counteract the zapping of your good bacteria immediately after you

> stop zapping.

> It kills all bacteria, and the long term zapping gets

> into the bowls despite what Dr. says, I think, and kills the

> good bacteria there along with the bad.

Certainly a possibility I had not thought of. I haven't taken probiotics

in awhile but will pick some up tomorrow.

The cleanse regimen I am going to start in a couple of weeks has their

own probioitcs so it certainly would not hurt for me to pick them up and

get an early start on them.

I took Primal Defence for well over a year ( after completing a year

of using Dr. Cabot's Livatone Plus I could actually tolerate the Primal

Defence in large quantities...before that even 1/8 tsp was too much) and

since getting on Colostrum I have not taken any sort of probiotics as

the Candida has seemed to be in check to some degree.

It just got to the point where I was starting to gag on

supplements...overkill I think LOL !

Anyways, good advice and can't hurt

As it is after 4 pm here now I really feel crappy....once 4pm hits and

normal liver detoxification kicks in the symptoms get worse.

Hopefully in a few more days I will feel much better. I took the Zapper

off yesterday morning....or maybe it was the day before...yeah, Thursday

I think.

As far as the Epsom salts go it was just the taste for me...as soon as I

took it in my mouth and it went down it was game over. It was the taste

that made me gag :-)

Joanne

[Guest guest]

Hi again, Joanne,

I use Primal defense too. It works pretty good, I think! And too,

doing the liver flush will be very helpful! I had a not successful

flush myself; moved around too much after taking the olive

oil/grapefruit mixure, and had to get up to use the bathroom

about an hour after going to bed. That was what went wrong for me, I

am pretty sure. When Dr. clark says, lay perfectly still as soon as

possible after drinking the mixture, she really means it, I guess! hahha

Anyway, I think you may be like me in that you aren't gonna quit until

your health puzzle is solved, eh? I am finding it usually can be; just

takes a while and a lot of research, and some false starts (and

supplements!) And I can so relate to your not wanting to swallow even

one more supplement sometimes. Sure can get that way when you are

trying to figure this all out I am finding!

Good luck!

Annette

>

>

>

>

> > And for absolutely sure, you NEED to take a good probiotic

> > to counteract the zapping of your good bacteria immediately after you

> > stop zapping.

>

> > It kills all bacteria, and the long term zapping gets

> > into the bowls despite what Dr. says, I think, and kills the

> > good bacteria there along with the bad.

>

>

> Certainly a possibility I had not thought of. I haven't taken

probiotics

> in awhile but will pick some up tomorrow.

>

> The cleanse regimen I am going to start in a couple of weeks has their

> own probioitcs so it certainly would not hurt for me to pick them up

and

> get an early start on them.

>

> I took Primal Defence for well over a year ( after completing a year

> of using Dr. Cabot's Livatone Plus I could actually tolerate the Primal

> Defence in large quantities...before that even 1/8 tsp was too much)

and

> since getting on Colostrum I have not taken any sort of probiotics as

> the Candida has seemed to be in check to some degree.

>

> It just got to the point where I was starting to gag on

> supplements...overkill I think LOL !

>

> Anyways, good advice and can't hurt

>

> As it is after 4 pm here now I really feel crappy....once 4pm hits and

> normal liver detoxification kicks in the symptoms get worse.

>

> Hopefully in a few more days I will feel much better. I took the Zapper

> off yesterday morning....or maybe it was the day before...yeah,

Thursday

> I think.

>

> As far as the Epsom salts go it was just the taste for me...as soon

as I

> took it in my mouth and it went down it was game over. It was the taste

> that made me gag :-)

>

> Joanne

>

[Guest guest]

I have a Terminator also but I didn't purchase it until after a year of using

's zapper. (And that I only used once a day at most). I love the

Terminator and the only side effect I had was a little sleeplessness in the

beginning. The zapper made me sick quite often the first year, even with

once a day, so I understand what you're going through. This is my second year

and I rarely get sick so there's hope for you yet! It's surprising how much

work it takes to get well but I haven't had an asthma attack in a year now so

it's worth the suffering :-)

Stonehaven Farms <stonehaven@...> wrote:

> Borberg wrote: You're experiencing massive amounts of die-off

from using the zapper for such long intervals. You are killing many,

many parasites >very rapidly and you're body is having trouble

eliminating them (hence the flu-like symptoms, diarrhea, etc. It's all

dead parasites being eliminated >through your liver, kidneys and

bowels.) Try using the zapper only once a day for the recommended 3

intervals of 7 minutes on, 20 minutes off (total >time, less than an

hour.)

>Joanne,

>I know how you are feeling because I have a sensitive system also. I

>purchased Epsom salts but haven't used them yet. I am also using a Gentle

>Cleanse (not Dr. s) because I had tried a strong one and just about

>keeled over and died from the Die-off. I feel your suffering!

>Alison

Thank you and Alison,

I was in the health food store yesterday and did find a cleansing

protocol than starts off with a gentle detox ( which I may be able to

skip as I have just complete a 3 week one from another company) then

graduates to a stronger one for 15 days , then a parasite cleanse, a

candida cleanse and a liver detox.

ReNew Life is the company.

I am going to call the company today and ask some questions. The

parasite detox just sounds like it targets bowel bugs so may not do much

for ones in the liver etc.

- my Zapper is not a Dr. one. It is a Terminator Zapper. I

think it says not to use for less than 10 minutes . I could that over an

hour, 10 on 20 off, 10 on...but not for awhile. I will wait. I feel

awful today ;-) My daughter also has an upset stomach and I am beginning

to wonder if we both have a slight case of food poisoning as we both

ate something new the other day....and it was about 3 hours after I had

it that my symptoms got worse. So possibly I have a double whammy going on.

I will hold off on the gall bladder flush for now and look into the

above cleansing regimen, see how I can tolerate it and do the flush in

few months when I have completed it. I do not have any gall bladder

symptoms per say so I can wait.

Taste of Epsom Salts: I found the discussion forum on Cure Zone and got

some great suggestions ! Instead of dissolving the ES in 3 cups of

water just do it in 1 cup, take 1/4 cup of this ( 1 swallow and it is

down) followed by 1/2 cup water to make up the 3/4 cup total. One person

adds Stevia to the full 3/4 cup dose ( about 3 Tbsp) to kill off the

bitterness, some people put the ES into the empty gel caps you can buy

at the HFS and take it that way ( about 12 caps) followed by the water.

When I do it I am going to try the 1/4 cup method and add I dissolved

effervescent Vitamin C tab which on it's own tastes like orange drink.

Thanks again for the comments and suggestions. I must say it sucks to be

so sensitive...one wonders when , if ever, that die off doesn't try and

die you off :-)

I was very happy that the cleansing reaction I had to the herbal

products I am using now only lasted 3 days and were just mild fluey

symptoms. Day 4 I felt fine...tho it was easier to stick to a cleansing

diet for the first few days when I felt a bit sick LOL !

Joanne

>

[Guest guest]

I make Epsom salt capsules for every flush: they go down just fine and the

effectiveness seems to be unchanged.

The trick is to use the quantity of salt in the book's recipe.

Luigi

Re: zapper and gall bladder flush

>

> " have no recommendations for improving the taste, I haven't found any but

> after the first cleanse, it's not that bad. You just have to get used to

> it. Good Luck. "

>

> Has anybody ever tried putting the Epsom salts in capsules and swollowing

> them?

> I don't have a problem with the epsom salts, but for some people it is an

> insurmountable task. I know some that add a powdered flavour and vitamin

> C. Although the powdered flavour must be full of Azo dyes and other toxins

> the cleanse goes very well and many stones are removed.

> Getting the stones out is the priority, at first.

> Dean

>

>

[Guest guest]

That is great news.

Do you use 3/4 cup of water also and sip it slowly, or do you use more than

that.

Dean

Re: zapper and gall bladder flush

>

> " have no recommendations for improving the taste, I haven't found any but

> after the first cleanse, it's not that bad. You just have to get used to

> it. Good Luck. "

>

> Has anybody ever tried putting the Epsom salts in capsules and swollowing

> them?

> I don't have a problem with the epsom salts, but for some people it is an

> insurmountable task. I know some that add a powdered flavour and vitamin

> C. Although the powdered flavour must be full of Azo dyes and other toxins

> the cleanse goes very well and many stones are removed.

> Getting the stones out is the priority, at first.

> Dean

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. 's recipe is followed EXACTLY as it is described in the book: if

something works I mess with it as little as I can.

I just divide the Epsom salt into the right number of 00-sized capsules

(nine per serving if memory serves).

The 3/4 cup of water is used to swallow the capsules so almost nothing

changes.

Luigi

Re: zapper and gall bladder flush

>

>

> >

> > " have no recommendations for improving the taste, I haven't found any

> but

> > after the first cleanse, it's not that bad. You just have to get used

> to

> > it. Good Luck. "

> >

> > Has anybody ever tried putting the Epsom salts in capsules and

> swollowing

> > them?

> > I don't have a problem with the epsom salts, but for some people it is

> an

> > insurmountable task. I know some that add a powdered flavour and

> vitamin

> > C. Although the powdered flavour must be full of Azo dyes and other

> toxins

> > the cleanse goes very well and many stones are removed.

> > Getting the stones out is the priority, at first.

> > Dean

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

great idea! just the thought of that taste makes me sick

I have done 6 flushes and expelled hundreds of stones!

Luigi Farina <luigif@...> wrote:

I make Epsom salt capsules for every flush: they go down just fine and the

effectiveness seems to be unchanged.

The trick is to use the quantity of salt in the book's recipe.

Luigi

Re: zapper and gall bladder flush

>

> " have no recommendations for improving the taste, I haven't found any but

> after the first cleanse, it's not that bad. You just have to get used to

> it. Good Luck. "

>

> Has anybody ever tried putting the Epsom salts in capsules and swollowing

> them?

> I don't have a problem with the epsom salts, but for some people it is an

> insurmountable task. I know some that add a powdered flavour and vitamin

> C. Although the powdered flavour must be full of Azo dyes and other toxins

> the cleanse goes very well and many stones are removed.

> Getting the stones out is the priority, at first.

> Dean

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello there! Would you share with me the protocol on cleaning with epson salt?

Also, where do you get the capsules to fill them up with the salt? A friend of

mine suggested that I do the cleanse with fine sea salt. She told me two

teaspoons every night for seven days. I don't have updates on it. I don't have

the financial means to purchase a cleanse kit and the idea of using sea salt

seemed both efficient and if what she stated was accurate, effective too.

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Respectfully,

Eileen

<lindae321@...> wrote:

great idea! just the thought of that taste makes me sick

I have done 6 flushes and expelled hundreds of stones!

Luigi Farina <luigif@...> wrote:

I make Epsom salt capsules for every flush: they go down just fine and the

effectiveness seems to be unchanged.

The trick is to use the quantity of salt in the book's recipe.

Luigi

Re: zapper and gall bladder flush

>

> " have no recommendations for improving the taste, I haven't found any but

> after the first cleanse, it's not that bad. You just have to get used to

> it. Good Luck. "

>

> Has anybody ever tried putting the Epsom salts in capsules and swollowing

> them?

> I don't have a problem with the epsom salts, but for some people it is an

> insurmountable task. I know some that add a powdered flavour and vitamin

> C. Although the powdered flavour must be full of Azo dyes and other toxins

> the cleanse goes very well and many stones are removed.

> Getting the stones out is the priority, at first.

> Dean

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Luigi (and the other person who mentioned this)! I used the

encapsulated epsom salts for my liver cleanse last night and it was

extremely easy. Each of the 4 servings amounted to 14 size 00

capsules for me. In other words, in order to encapsulate 1

Tablespoon of epsom salts, I had to use 14 size 00 capsules.

You would need 56 empty size 00 capsules if you were going to

attempt this.

I also did a colonic today and I swear I feel better than I have in

2 years right now!

Thanks again for the tip~

Lorna

> Luigi Farina <luigif@...> wrote:

> I make Epsom salt capsules for every flush: they go down just

fine and the

> effectiveness seems to be unchanged.

> The trick is to use the quantity of salt in the book's recipe.

> Luigi

>

>

[Guest guest]

The capsules come off an internet site (Wonder Laboratories-do a google on

them).

Because I also make ascorbic acid capsules for my family, I got from them a

little plastic contraption that helps me make 24 pills in one shot-very

convenient.

And their prices are FAR less than GNC.

The idea is to take the total amount of Epsom salt needed for a cleanse,

fill with it the necessary number of capsules and divide them by the four

servings.

I have not heard of sea salt for cleansing.

Luigi

Re: zapper and gall bladder flush

>

> " have no recommendations for improving the taste, I haven't found any but

> after the first cleanse, it's not that bad. You just have to get used to

> it. Good Luck. "

>

> Has anybody ever tried putting the Epsom salts in capsules and swollowing

> them?

> I don't have a problem with the epsom salts, but for some people it is an

> insurmountable task. I know some that add a powdered flavour and vitamin

> C. Although the powdered flavour must be full of Azo dyes and other toxins

> the cleanse goes very well and many stones are removed.

> Getting the stones out is the priority, at first.

> Dean

>

>

[Guest guest]

Eileen:

I don't think you should just go clean your liver with salt

Dr. has the whole protocol of cleansing of several organs. It has been

good for me

but I did everything the way she says. They have a book in Spanish if it

makesit easier for you. you can buy the stuff for each organ at the time and

do it right!

she says that cleaning your organ without the parasite cleanse could be a

painful nightmare. Haslo bien amiga es tu salud!

linda

" Lourdes E. -Santiago " <chosetolive@...> wrote:

Hello there! Would you share with me the protocol on cleaning with epson

salt? Also, where do you get the capsules to fill them up with the salt? A

friend of mine suggested that I do the cleanse with fine sea salt. She told me

two teaspoons every night for seven days. I don't have updates on it. I don't

have the financial means to purchase a cleanse kit and the idea of using sea

salt seemed both efficient and if what she stated was accurate, effective too.

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Respectfully,

Eileen

<lindae321@...> wrote:

great idea! just the thought of that taste makes me sick

I have done 6 flushes and expelled hundreds of stones!

Luigi Farina <luigif@...> wrote:

I make Epsom salt capsules for every flush: they go down just fine and the

effectiveness seems to be unchanged.

The trick is to use the quantity of salt in the book's recipe.

Luigi

Re: zapper and gall bladder flush

>

> " have no recommendations for improving the taste, I haven't found any but

> after the first cleanse, it's not that bad. You just have to get used to

> it. Good Luck. "

>

> Has anybody ever tried putting the Epsom salts in capsules and swollowing

> them?

> I don't have a problem with the epsom salts, but for some people it is an

> insurmountable task. I know some that add a powdered flavour and vitamin

> C. Although the powdered flavour must be full of Azo dyes and other toxins

> the cleanse goes very well and many stones are removed.

> Getting the stones out is the priority, at first.

> Dean

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I've done 15 liver flushes acc to Dr. protocol, last 8 with spring

water. My liver condition improved dramatically and liver markers are close to

perfect. The taste of Epson mixture is less than pleasant even with the best

purified water. I experimented with real mineral, not bubble water as Selter.

Any carbonated or non-carbonated - Italian, German. Polish. You can buy it in

Trader' Joe chain or in grocery stores. Any brand is good. Just open a bottle

and let it stay for a while before mixing with the Epson salt. It gives a great

result. In her latest book " Prevention " Dr. doesn' t recommend grapfruit

juice for those with bones involved. She recommends to use an apple juice mixed

with vit C (ascorb. form).

Nina

<lindae321@...> wrote:

Eileen:

I don't think you should just go clean your liver with salt

Dr. has the whole protocol of cleansing of several organs. It has been

good for me

but I did everything the way she says. They have a book in Spanish if it

makesit easier for you. you can buy the stuff for each organ at the time and

do it right!

she says that cleaning your organ without the parasite cleanse could be a

painful nightmare. Haslo bien amiga es tu salud!

linda

" Lourdes E. -Santiago " <chosetolive@...> wrote:

Hello there! Would you share with me the protocol on cleaning with epson

salt? Also, where do you get the capsules to fill them up with the salt? A

friend of mine suggested that I do the cleanse with fine sea salt. She told me

two teaspoons every night for seven days. I don't have updates on it. I don't

have the financial means to purchase a cleanse kit and the idea of using sea

salt seemed both efficient and if what she stated was accurate, effective too.

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Respectfully,

Eileen

<lindae321@...> wrote:

great idea! just the thought of that taste makes me sick

I have done 6 flushes and expelled hundreds of stones!

Luigi Farina <luigif@...> wrote:

I make Epsom salt capsules for every flush: they go down just fine and the

effectiveness seems to be unchanged.

The trick is to use the quantity of salt in the book's recipe.

Luigi

Re: zapper and gall bladder flush

>

> " have no recommendations for improving the taste, I haven't found any but

> after the first cleanse, it's not that bad. You just have to get used to

> it. Good Luck. "

>

> Has anybody ever tried putting the Epsom salts in capsules and swollowing

> them?

> I don't have a problem with the epsom salts, but for some people it is an

> insurmountable task. I know some that add a powdered flavour and vitamin

> C. Although the powdered flavour must be full of Azo dyes and other toxins

> the cleanse goes very well and many stones are removed.

> Getting the stones out is the priority, at first.

> Dean

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much for your advise. I will check the information you sent me.

I really need to do something quick to clean my colon and the liver... they are

my two main issues at this time. I will then use the epsom salt instead...

could you tell me the procedure for dividing the cleanse by 4? Is it to take it

every 4 hours in a 16 hour period? God bless you for your offer to help.

Luigi Farina <luigif@...> wrote: The capsules come off an internet

site (Wonder Laboratories-do a google on

them).

Because I also make ascorbic acid capsules for my family, I got from them a

little plastic contraption that helps me make 24 pills in one shot-very

convenient.

And their prices are FAR less than GNC.

The idea is to take the total amount of Epsom salt needed for a cleanse,

fill with it the necessary number of capsules and divide them by the four

servings.

I have not heard of sea salt for cleansing.

Luigi

Re: zapper and gall bladder flush

>

> " have no recommendations for improving the taste, I haven't found any but

> after the first cleanse, it's not that bad. You just have to get used to

> it. Good Luck. "

>

> Has anybody ever tried putting the Epsom salts in capsules and swollowing

> them?

> I don't have a problem with the epsom salts, but for some people it is an

> insurmountable task. I know some that add a powdered flavour and vitamin

> C. Although the powdered flavour must be full of Azo dyes and other toxins

> the cleanse goes very well and many stones are removed.

> Getting the stones out is the priority, at first.

> Dean

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can find the exact instructions for the liver cleanse here:

http://www.drhuldaclark.org/therapy_liver.asp.

My advise is not to deviate with the exception of putting the epsom

salt into empty capsules instead of dissolving it into water.

Information on the bowel cleanse:

http://www.drhuldaclark.org/therapy_bowel.asp

Good luck~

Lorna

>

> Thank you very much for your advise. I will check the information

you sent me. I really need to do something quick to clean my colon

and the liver... they are my two main issues at this time. I will

then use the epsom salt instead... could you tell me the procedure

for dividing the cleanse by 4? Is it to take it every 4 hours in a

16 hour period? God bless you for your offer to help.