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we had this on another site. may i make a suggestion that no one replies. just

press DELETE. the truth never has to be defended.

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Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 12:18 PM

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I was wondering, is this a group which censors dissenting opinion

about ?

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Psychoneuroimmunology (PNI) is a fascinating consideration. I've always noticed that at times when I get a sense of smell, I also feel really good. A happy type of good that's different than the feeling from prednisone. Now I've noted that my long term insomnia/light sleep habits might be caused by low Serotonin levels. HA!! There's even a Serotonin Diet.

Hope marches on.

In a message dated 2/25/2010 3:46:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, louis7680@... writes:

Anyone with Samter's long enough has to deal with depression to begin with,to add negativity here is just an insult to us all and especially to the member who gave such interesting information.People who study science often just put the information in point form as it is much quicker. Once they publish sentence structure becomes more important. There is a good read that changed my perspective. Emotions.Morbidity, and Mortality: New perspectives from psychoneuroimmunology,Annual Review of Psychology,@002,53:83-107 ------------------------------------

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I can definitely relate to that. When my sense of smell returns

I get what I call an absolute ‘high’ just from an overdose of all the delicious

smells around that I haven’t previously been aware of.

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Sent: Friday, 26 February 2010 10:06 AM

samters

Subject: Re: negative comments

Psychoneuroimmunology

(PNI) is a fascinating consideration. I've always noticed that at times

when I get a sense of smell, I also feel really good. A happy type of good

that's different

than the feeling from prednisone. Now I've noted that my long term

insomnia/light sleep habits might be caused by low Serotonin levels.

HA!! There's even a Serotonin Diet.

Hope

marches on.

In a message dated 2/25/2010 3:46:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard

Time, louis7680@... writes:

Anyone with Samter's long

enough has to deal with depression to begin with,to add negativity here is just

an insult to us all and especially to the member who gave such interesting

information.People who study science often just put the information in point

form as it is much quicker. Once they publish sentence structure becomes more

important. There is a good read that changed my perspective.

Emotions.Morbidity, and Mortality: New perspectives from psychoneuroimmunology,Annual

Review of Psychology,@002,53:83-107

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Well put! Now that I can smell, and smell WELL, I sniff everything! Bananas,

herbal tea, vanilla (when I'm baking), garlic, oranges, the list goes on. And I

notice I smile every time I smell something--I must look like a huge dork, but I

don't care. Only you folks can understand....

And thanks Wayne, as a science teacher, I tend to put content before grammar.

Let's keep focusing on the wealth of knowledge provided by this forum, and not

worry too much about the manner in which this content is delivered!

For those who are worried about the manner of delivery of content:

http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?webtag=ab-grammar

Have fun over on THAT forum!

:-0

Becca

>

> Psychoneuroimmunology (PNI) is a fascinating consideration. I've always

> noticed that at times when I get a sense of smell, I also feel really good.

> A happy type of good that's different than the feeling from prednisone.

> Now I've noted that my long term insomnia/light sleep habits might be caused

> by low Serotonin levels. HA!! There's even a Serotonin Diet.

> Hope marches on.

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 2/25/2010 3:46:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,

> louis7680@... writes:

>

> Anyone with Samter's long enough has to deal with depression to begin

> with,to add negativity here is just an insult to us all and especially to the

> member who gave such interesting information.People who study science often

> just put the information in point form as it is much quicker. Once they

> publish sentence structure becomes more important. There is a good read that

> changed my perspective. Emotions.Morbidity, and Mortality: New

> perspectives from psychoneuroimmunology,Annual Review of

Psychology,@002,53:83-107

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> Links

>

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(corresponding abstract)

Annu Rev Psychol. 2002;53:83-107.

Emotions, morbidity, and mortality: new perspectives from psychoneuroimmunology.

Kiecolt-Glaser JK, McGuire L, Robles TF, Glaser R.

Department of Psychiatry The Ohio State University College of Medicine, 1670

Upham Drive, Columbus, Ohio 43210, USA. Kiecolt-Glaser.1@...

Negative emotions can intensify a variety of health threats. We provide a broad

framework relating negative emotions to a range of diseases whose onset and

course may be influenced by the immune system; inflammation has been linked to a

spectrum of conditions associated with aging, including cardiovascular disease,

osteoporosis, arthritis, type 2 diabetes, certain cancers, Alzheimer's disease,

frailty and functional decline, and periodontal disease. Production of

proinflammatory cytokines that influence these and other conditions can be

directly stimulated by negative emotions and stressful experiences.

Additionally, negative emotions also contribute to prolonged infection and

delayed wound healing, processes that fuel sustained proinflammatory cytokine

production.

Accordingly, we argue that distress-related immune dysregulation may be one core

mechanism behind a large and diverse set of health risks associated with

negative emotions.

Resources such as close personal relationships that diminish negative emotions

enhance health in part through their positive impact on immune and endocrine

regulation.

>

> Anyone with Samter's long enough has to deal with depression to begin

with,to add negativity here is just an insult to us all and especially to the

member who gave such interesting information.People who study science often just

put the information in point form as it is much quicker. Once they publish

sentence structure becomes more important. There is a good read that changed my

perspective. Emotions.Morbidity, and Mortality: New perspectives from

psychoneuroimmunology,Annual Review of Psychology,@002,53:83-107

>

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Becca,

I've been able to smell for almost a year now and I still have the " smell bliss "

moments...yesterdays was for a lemony girl scout cookie. Unfortunately, one of

my co-workers walked in and caught me sniffing the cookie....I must just keep

getting 'curiouser and curiouser' to them! Maybe we should take a walk this

spring and sniff the air together!

Jennie

> >

> > Psychoneuroimmunology (PNI) is a fascinating consideration. I've always

> > noticed that at times when I get a sense of smell, I also feel really good.

> > A happy type of good that's different than the feeling from prednisone.

> > Now I've noted that my long term insomnia/light sleep habits might be

caused

> > by low Serotonin levels. HA!! There's even a Serotonin Diet.

> > Hope marches on.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 2/25/2010 3:46:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,

> > louis7680@ writes:

> >

> > Anyone with Samter's long enough has to deal with depression to begin

> > with,to add negativity here is just an insult to us all and especially to

the

> > member who gave such interesting information.People who study science often

> > just put the information in point form as it is much quicker. Once they

> > publish sentence structure becomes more important. There is a good read

that

> > changed my perspective. Emotions.Morbidity, and Mortality: New

> > perspectives from psychoneuroimmunology,Annual Review of

Psychology,@002,53:83-107

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Links

> >

>

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Actually, right now I'm tinkering with hypothesis #2,548,700. Don't take steroids except on vacation once a year. Sleep is great for the first 3-4 hours, then wake up. Breathing hasn't been good/deep for awhile and mind starts going in a million directions. Either stay awake or nod off for brief naps until morning. Over the years I've become "dependent" on sleep inducing anti-histamines (TylenolPM, Wal-Som etc.) with occasional, infrequent, use of prescription sleep meds which are typically only good for 4 hours. One concern I've had is the mucus drying effect of anti-histamines combined with nighttime breathing of cool, dry air through my mouth instead of my nose as the night progresses. Believe this may be causing excessive drying in my lungs, possible mucus plugs, inflammation and restrictive breathing, but haven't been able to go to sleep at all without anti-histamines... and OTC Melatonin alone hasn't worked for me.

Right now I've finished night #4 with a natural non-prescription alternative called Alteril (Walgreens, WalMart, CVS, Amazon etc.). Some controversy surrounding this product, but excellent sleep the past 2 out of 4 nights. The jury, of course, is still out and I understand it may take a month or so for it to really work. A key ingredient is L-Tryptophan, which begets 5-HTP, which begets blood Serotonin, which begets Melatonin.

If my immune system changes, my "always changing" allergies clear up, I get a SOS and start laughing at internet jokes again, I'll know I've arrived. If not, just another hypothesis... but Psychoneuroimmunology is still interesting.

Hope marches on.

Re: negative comments

,

Have you tried going to sleep early, sleeping in total darkness (even slight light influences hormonal production), and lowering the amount of steroids at night / taking steroids only in the morning ?

>

> Psychoneuroimmunology (PNI) is a fascinating consideration. I've always > noticed that at times when I get a sense of smell, I also feel really good. > A happy type of good that's different than the feeling from prednisone. > Now I've noted that my long term insomnia/light sleep habits might be caused > by low Serotonin levels. HA!! There's even a Serotonin Diet.

> Hope marches on.

> >

> > > In a message dated 2/25/2010 3:46:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > louis7680@... writes:

> > Anyone with Samter's long enough has to deal with depression to begin > with,to add negativity here is just an insult to us all and especially to the > member who gave such interesting information.People who study science often > just put the information in point form as it is much quicker. Once they > publish sentence structure becomes more important. There is a good read that > changed my perspective. Emotions.Morbidity, and Mortality: New > perspectives from psychoneuroimmunology,Annual Review of Psychology,@002,53:83-107 > > > > ------------------------------------

> >

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Your description of antihistamine dependance and the effects on mucus sounds

logical.

I can perfectly relate to your insomnia description ; I used to sleep as poorly

as that for the last 2 years - though I was not on antihistamines- before I

totally, absolutely eliminated even the slightest light during the night and

started sodium cromoglycate to lower the inflammation. Good sleep came back

within 3 months, but not on the counf of the cromoglycate, I believe the

darkness was the key to normalize nighttime hormone production.

Alteril actually is a mix of substances :

" Alteril contains natural substances that are shown to induce sleep and

relaxation. These substances include L-Tryptophan, Melatonin, Valerian,

Chamomile, I-Theanine, Lemon Balm, Hops, Passion Flower. "

It depends on the dosage, but if they are low-dose AND work, it's great.

Good luck.

>

> Actually, right now I'm tinkering with hypothesis #2,548,700. Don't take

steroids except on vacation once a year. Sleep is great for the first 3-4

hours, then wake up. Breathing hasn't been good/deep for awhile and mind starts

going in a million directions. Either stay awake or nod off for brief naps

until morning. Over the years I've become " dependent " on sleep inducing

anti-histamines (TylenolPM, Wal-Som etc.) with occasional, infrequent, use of

prescription sleep meds which are typically only good for 4 hours. One concern

I've had is the mucus drying effect of anti-histamines combined with nighttime

breathing of cool, dry air through my mouth instead of my nose as the night

progresses. Believe this may be causing excessive drying in my lungs, possible

mucus plugs, inflammation and restrictive breathing, but haven't been able to go

to sleep at all without anti-histamines... and OTC Melatonin alone hasn't worked

for me.

>

>

> Right now I've finished night #4 with a natural non-prescription alternative

called Alteril (Walgreens, WalMart, CVS, Amazon etc.). Some controversy

surrounding this product, but excellent sleep the past 2 out of 4 nights. The

jury, of course, is still out and I understand it may take a month or so for it

to really work. A key ingredient is L-Tryptophan, which begets 5-HTP, which

begets blood Serotonin, which begets Melatonin.

>

>

> If my immune system changes, my " always changing " allergies clear up, I get a

SOS and start laughing at internet jokes again, I'll know I've arrived. If not,

just another hypothesis... but Psychoneuroimmunology is still interesting.

>

>

> Hope marches on.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Re: negative comments

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Sounds great, as long as I'm polyp-free until then! I confess I'm a little

jealous, I still can't do red wine, and haven't really tried wheat. I'm waiting

until the verdict is in on the desense!

Cheers, and keep sniffin'!

Becca

> > >

> > > Psychoneuroimmunology (PNI) is a fascinating consideration. I've always

> > > noticed that at times when I get a sense of smell, I also feel really

good.

> > > A happy type of good that's different than the feeling from prednisone.

> > > Now I've noted that my long term insomnia/light sleep habits might be

caused

> > > by low Serotonin levels. HA!! There's even a Serotonin Diet.

> > > Hope marches on.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 2/25/2010 3:46:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,

> > > louis7680@ writes:

> > >

> > > Anyone with Samter's long enough has to deal with depression to begin

> > > with,to add negativity here is just an insult to us all and especially to

the

> > > member who gave such interesting information.People who study science

often

> > > just put the information in point form as it is much quicker. Once they

> > > publish sentence structure becomes more important. There is a good read

that

> > > changed my perspective. Emotions.Morbidity, and Mortality: New

> > > perspectives from psychoneuroimmunology,Annual Review of

Psychology,@002,53:83-107

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > > Links

> > >

> >

>

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Following aspirin desense I was nervous to try red wine, ibuprofen or any of the

things that had bothered me before, but I'm happy to report I didn't have

problems with any of them once I got up the courage to try.

You might want to wait until you are done with the antibiotics though....

Jennie

> > > >

> > > > Psychoneuroimmunology (PNI) is a fascinating consideration. I've

always

> > > > noticed that at times when I get a sense of smell, I also feel really

good.

> > > > A happy type of good that's different than the feeling from prednisone.

> > > > Now I've noted that my long term insomnia/light sleep habits might be

caused

> > > > by low Serotonin levels. HA!! There's even a Serotonin Diet.

> > > > Hope marches on.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 2/25/2010 3:46:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,

> > > > louis7680@ writes:

> > > >

> > > > Anyone with Samter's long enough has to deal with depression to begin

> > > > with,to add negativity here is just an insult to us all and especially

to the

> > > > member who gave such interesting information.People who study science

often

> > > > just put the information in point form as it is much quicker. Once they

> > > > publish sentence structure becomes more important. There is a good read

that

> > > > changed my perspective. Emotions.Morbidity, and Mortality: New

> > > > perspectives from psychoneuroimmunology,Annual Review of

Psychology,@002,53:83-107

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > > Links

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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