Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 In a message dated 2/3/06 7:53:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, shefy7@... writes: > I will > try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every meal and drink a > cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any other tips? > Some of the statins have severe reactions to grapefruit. If he is on one make sure it isn't one of those. colleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 He's not extrememly over on cholesterol???? Dr. says it should be 200 plus your age....or 256 in his case.... >From: " shefy7 " <shefy7@...> >Reply-Dr >Dr >Subject: High Cholesterol-Anything to help reduce it.... >Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:38:03 -0000 > >Hello all, > >My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the borderline of >diabetes, but he has that under control now... His HDL is a bit high >and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was normal. I'm trying to >get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies and water, and >exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are going to Sears >tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex treadclimber. He is >overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56). Anything to help >get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but seriously I will >try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every meal and drink a >cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any other tips? > >I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't see much for these >types of problems. I did look through the heart disease section...but >he doesn't have serious problems like those listed. I think prevention >is the key and I would like to help him lower is cholesterol even more. > >He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so I'm going to have >to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this has any tips please >let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try the kidney cleanse, >he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get sick during mine. > >Thanks! >Shefy > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 Red Yeast Rice will help. My mother used it and got off synthetic drugs High Cholesterol-Anything to help reduce it.... Hello all, My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the borderline of diabetes, but he has that under control now... His HDL is a bit high and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was normal. I'm trying to get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies and water, and exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are going to Sears tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex treadclimber. He is overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56). Anything to help get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but seriously I will try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every meal and drink a cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any other tips? I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't see much for these types of problems. I did look through the heart disease section...but he doesn't have serious problems like those listed. I think prevention is the key and I would like to help him lower is cholesterol even more. He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so I'm going to have to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this has any tips please let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try the kidney cleanse, he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get sick during mine. Thanks! Shefy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 Hi Shefy, Sorry to hear about yoru father. Improving the liver health is the first target in dealing with the processing of fat out of the body and regulating cholesterol. To further explore this beyond the excellent teaching of Dr. , I'd recommend Dr. Cabot, M.D.'s books: " The Healthy LIVER Bowel Book " and " The Liver Cleansing Diet " . Her website is: www.liverdoctor.com I don't know exactly why you had problems with the liver/gallstone flush, but the liver flush is the most effective and quickest way to drastically improve liver function. One flush is not enough either. Several flushes, no less than 2 weeks apart, are required to get all the stones, chaff, and stagnant bile out. Colon and parrasite cleansing are the best preparation for the liver cleanse, since it clears the way for a liver flush to be easier on you and more effective at getting more junk out of your liver and gallbladder during each flush. Your dad being skeptical and all would seem to indicate that you need to get a grip on your own health situation so well that he's encouraged by your success (instead of discouraged by your setbacks). The first step I'd recommend is you try again to have a successful liver flush yourself by preparing better to up the odds of success in your favor. Use Dr. 's flush with the Epsom Salts and Grapefruit juice mixed with the oil. When you have successful liver flushes and experience all the benefits you can have more enthusiasm and energy for helping him. That increase in energy and enthusiasm for natural cures is contagious in the best way Best regards, Vince >From: " shefy7 " <shefy7@...> >Reply-Dr >Dr >Subject: High Cholesterol-Anything to help reduce it.... >Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:38:03 -0000 > >Hello all, > >My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the borderline of >diabetes, but he has that under control now... His HDL is a bit high >and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was normal. I'm trying to >get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies and water, and >exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are going to Sears >tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex treadclimber. He is >overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56). Anything to help >get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but seriously I will >try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every meal and drink a >cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any other tips? > >I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't see much for these >types of problems. I did look through the heart disease section...but >he doesn't have serious problems like those listed. I think prevention >is the key and I would like to help him lower is cholesterol even more. > >He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so I'm going to have >to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this has any tips please >let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try the kidney cleanse, >he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get sick during mine. > >Thanks! >Shefy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 I hate to tell you this, but the liver cleanse is exactly what he must do to lower his cholesterol. First and foremost, cholesterol is not the enemy. In fact, our livers even produce it and, without it, we would not be alive as it is vital to living organisms. It is the liver's job to produce and regulate cholesterol levels in the blood. When the liver is congested and full of parasites, it becomes unable to handle all 400+ functions it is designed to handle, so it goes for the most important functions, like detoxification. When you flush the liver clean of stones and sludge, as well as kill the parasites harboring inside both the liver and the stones themselves, the liver is now able to fully regenerate and resume normal function again including regulating healthy cholesterol levels. It may take up to 30 flushes to achieve a total stone-free liver/gall bladder. It all depends on the condition of the liver in question. However, each and every flush will reveal more and more benefits including healthy skin, reduced to eliminated allergies and food/chemical intolerances, overall digestion and overall health, etc.... Now cholesterol becomes a problem when your arteries are scarred and/or hardened (atherosclerosis or arteriosclerosis). This is caused by numerous things such as parasites, chlorine, and trans fats. When you have scarred, pitted arteries, it becomes easy for the sticky cholesterol to become lodged thus allowing for more cholesterol to become attached to it until finally total blockage occurs causing infarction (heart attack/stroke/tissue death). Ken -- High Cholesterol-Anything to help reduce it.... Hello all, My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the borderline of diabetes, but he has that under control now... His HDL is a bit high and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was normal. I'm trying to get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies and water, and exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are going to Sears tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex treadclimber. He is overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56). Anything to help get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but seriously I will try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every meal and drink a cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any other tips? I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't see much for these types of problems. I did look through the heart disease section...but he doesn't have serious problems like those listed. I think prevention is the key and I would like to help him lower is cholesterol even more. He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so I'm going to have to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this has any tips please let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try the kidney cleanse, he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get sick during mine. Thanks! Shefy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 Shefy, High choesterol is fine; read he Cholesterol Myths and The Oiling Of America. In fact, lower cholesterol is worse than higher. " Research unveiled at last fall's meeting of the American Heart Association revealed that a commonly prescribed " statin " drug for lowering cholesterol might actually impair patients' brain function, writes s II, MD, " ...even so far as to affect their ability to perform everyday tasks, like drive a car. The study pinpointed measurable decreases in attention span and psychomotor reflex speed among the subject group when compared to the un-medicated control group. ...Those patients who experienced the greatest decreases in blood cholesterol also suffered the greatest levels of impairment. ....What's not clear is whether the impairment is caused by the drugs themselves - or the lack of cholesterol. Low cholesterol levels have been linked to numerous other health issues directly related to the brain - things like violent behavior, depression, mood swings, stroke risk and other problems. " Hopes that statins could reduce a person's risk of developing a number of cancers have been shattered by two studies that showed no association exists between the cholesterol-lowering drugs and cancer risk. The Journal of the American Medical Association January 2006 published the results of (http://tinyurl.com/chysy) Dr. White and colleagues from the University of Connecticut, who carried out a meta-analysis of 27 trials involving almost 90,000 participants to investigate the purported benefit of statins for cancer. " In no analysis could we find benefits (for statins) in cancer, " said Dr White. A second study, reported in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute (Jan 2006), found no association between the use of cholesterol-lowering drugs, the majority of which are statins, and colorectal cancer risk among over 130,000 people. " Our results do not support the hypothesis that statins, as a class of drugs, strongly reduce the risk of colorectal cancer, " write Dr s et al. (http://tinyurl.com/abxoe) This contradicts findings from a recent study of 4000 people, which showed that among individuals taking statins for five years or more, the risk of developing colorectal cancer was reduced by 47%. A study published in the American Journal of Epidemiology in Sept 2005 examined a suspected association between non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and the use of common medications. Researchers found a clear link between NHL risk and the use of antibiotics more than 10 times during adulthood. In addition, regular use of nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs, such as aspirin, ibuprofen and naproxen) was " marginally associated " with a higher risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. (http://tinyurl.com/cf7g9) " Regular aspirin-use preceding the onset of primary intracerebral hemorrhage is an independent predictor for death " (http://tinyurl.com/8f84o) reads the title of a study in Stroke (Jan 2006). It shows that patients had a 2.5 increased relative risk of dying in the first 3 months after a brain bleed compared with nonusers of aspirin or warfarin. " We observed poor short- term outcomes and increased mortality, probably attributable to rapid enlargement of hematomas (bruising), in the subjects with intracerebral hemorrhage (brain bleeding) who had been taking regularly moderate doses of aspirin (median 250 mg) " wrote the researchers. Stanley Tuhrim, MD of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York writes in a related editorial in the same issue, titled, " Aspirin-use before ICH: a potentially treatable iatrogenic coagulopathy? " (http://tinyurl.com/drjlb), " (This)...provides added evidence that aspirin-use before ICH (brain bleeding) is a risk factor for continued bleeding and poorer outcome. " > My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the borderline of > diabetes, but he has that under control now... His HDL is a bit high > and LDL a bit low. > I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't see much for these > types of problems. I did look through the heart disease section...but > he doesn't have serious problems like those listed. I think prevention > is the key and I would like to help him lower is cholesterol even > more. > > He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so I'm going to have > to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this has any tips please > let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try the kidney cleanse, > he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get sick during mine. > > Thanks! > Shefy > Stress fom any source raises cholesterol. The biggest cause is probably diet, second biggest probably toxin load, third, probably malnutrition, then emotions and then electromagnetic interference. Just my take on the relative aspects; most people have more than one. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 What many people do not know is high cholesterol is actually a byproduct of high carbohydrate intake. The more straches, sweets, fruits etc. that you eat in excess, the more prone you will be to high cholesterol. The body needs to make excess cholesterol to help harden cell membranes that have become too soft from excess sugars. Ken is correct in saying that cholesterol is made in the body and liver cleanses will clean out the junk. What he didn't mention is the cause of the scarring and lesions in the arteries and that is high sugar levels and high insulin levels from consuming sweets, starches, excess fruits etc. > > I hate to tell you this, but the liver cleanse is exactly what he must > do to lower his cholesterol. First and foremost, cholesterol is not the > enemy. In fact, our livers even produce it and, without it, we would not be > alive as it is vital to living organisms. It is the liver's job to produce > and regulate cholesterol levels in the blood. When the liver is congested > and full of parasites, it becomes unable to handle all 400+ functions it is > designed to handle, so it goes for the most important functions, like > detoxification. When you flush the liver clean of stones and sludge, as > well as kill the parasites harboring inside both the liver and the stones > themselves, the liver is now able to fully regenerate and resume normal > function again including regulating healthy cholesterol levels. It may take > up to 30 flushes to achieve a total stone-free liver/gall bladder. It all > depends on the condition of the liver in question. However, each and every > flush will reveal more and more benefits including healthy skin, reduced to > eliminated allergies and food/chemical intolerances, overall digestion and > overall health, etc.... > Now cholesterol becomes a problem when your arteries are scarred and/or > hardened (atherosclerosis or arteriosclerosis). This is caused by numerous > things such as parasites, chlorine, and trans fats. When you have scarred, > pitted arteries, it becomes easy for the sticky cholesterol to become lodged > thus allowing for more cholesterol to become attached to it until finally > total blockage occurs causing infarction (heart attack/stroke/tissue death). > Ken > > > -- High Cholesterol-Anything to help reduce it.... > > Hello all, > > My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the borderline of > diabetes, but he has that under control now... His HDL is a bit high > and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was normal. I'm trying to > get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies and water, and > exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are going to Sears > tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex treadclimber. He is > overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56). Anything to help > get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but seriously I will > try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every meal and drink a > cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any other tips? > > I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't see much for these > types of problems. I did look through the heart disease section...but > he doesn't have serious problems like those listed. I think prevention > is the key and I would like to help him lower is cholesterol even more. > > He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so I'm going to have > to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this has any tips please > let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try the kidney cleanse, > he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get sick during mine. > > Thanks! > Shefy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 Well, I hate to say it....but s is probably right ...you goota move and you have to put your portions.... As for the cholesterol....have you read into homocystiene research and it being a much better indicator for potential attack or stroke (can't remember which or both)? Try to get him to switch oils too....no corn oil, etc. --- shefy7 <shefy7@...> wrote: > Hello all, > > My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the > borderline of > diabetes, but he has that under control now... His > HDL is a bit high > and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was > normal. I'm trying to > get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies > and water, and > exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are > going to Sears > tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex > treadclimber. He is > overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56). > Anything to help > get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but > seriously I will > try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every > meal and drink a > cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any > other tips? > > I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't > see much for these > types of problems. I did look through the heart > disease section...but > he doesn't have serious problems like those listed. > I think prevention > is the key and I would like to help him lower is > cholesterol even more. > > He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so > I'm going to have > to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this > has any tips please > let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try > the kidney cleanse, > he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get > sick during mine. > > Thanks! > Shefy > > > > > > > XAN: " I knew. I saw I didn't know what I thought I knew. I gave up knowing for not knowing with great relief. Through not knowing now I know. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 I'd like to hear more about homocystine levels and heart disease if anyone has any info. thanks Idris Enoch <idrisenoch@...> wrote: Well, I hate to say it....but s is probably right ...you goota move and you have to put your portions.... As for the cholesterol....have you read into homocystiene research and it being a much better indicator for potential attack or stroke (can't remember which or both)? Try to get him to switch oils too....no corn oil, etc. --- shefy7 <shefy7@...> wrote: > Hello all, > > My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the > borderline of > diabetes, but he has that under control now... His > HDL is a bit high > and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was > normal. I'm trying to > get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies > and water, and > exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are > going to Sears > tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex > treadclimber. He is > overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56). > Anything to help > get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but > seriously I will > try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every > meal and drink a > cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any > other tips? > > I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't > see much for these > types of problems. I did look through the heart > disease section...but > he doesn't have serious problems like those listed. > I think prevention > is the key and I would like to help him lower is > cholesterol even more. > > He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so > I'm going to have > to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this > has any tips please > let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try > the kidney cleanse, > he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get > sick during mine. > > Thanks! > Shefy > > > > > > > XAN: " I knew. I saw I didn't know what I thought I knew. I gave up knowing for not knowing with great relief. Through not knowing now I know. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 On Homocysteine, Homocysteine is an aberrant amino-acid resulting from a malfunction in the handling of methionine Its presence has been implicated in a number of ever-increasing conditions. Originally, it was demonstrated the people with high concentrations of HC showed a higher tendency toward strokes.Altough the mechanism of action is unknown, the correlation is too strong to discard it. Several newer studies have also shown the connection to heart attacks. For every 5 millimole/ml increase in HC the risk of heart attacks goes up 42%. Further studies implicate it to cancer and Alzheimer's. Those with high HC DOUBLE the risk. There is also a stron connection to diabetes. It is easy to lower HC levels by taking enough vitamins B6, B12,B2 Folic, Zinc and Trimethyl Glycine a potent methylator. Regards Re: High Cholesterol-Anything to help reduce it.... I'd like to hear more about homocystine levels and heart disease if anyone has any info. thanks Idris Enoch <idrisenoch@...> wrote: Well, I hate to say it....but s is probably right ...you goota move and you have to put your portions.... As for the cholesterol....have you read into homocystiene research and it being a much better indicator for potential attack or stroke (can't remember which or both)? Try to get him to switch oils too....no corn oil, etc. --- shefy7 <shefy7@...> wrote: > Hello all, > > My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the > borderline of > diabetes, but he has that under control now... His > HDL is a bit high > and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was > normal. I'm trying to > get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies > and water, and > exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are > going to Sears > tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex > treadclimber. He is > overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56). > Anything to help > get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but > seriously I will > try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every > meal and drink a > cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any > other tips? > > I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't > see much for these > types of problems. I did look through the heart > disease section...but > he doesn't have serious problems like those listed. > I think prevention > is the key and I would like to help him lower is > cholesterol even more. > > He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so > I'm going to have > to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this > has any tips please > let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try > the kidney cleanse, > he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get > sick during mine. > > Thanks! > Shefy > > > > > > > XAN: " I knew. I saw I didn't know what I thought I knew. I gave up knowing for not knowing with great relief. Through not knowing now I know. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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