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In a message dated 2/3/06 7:53:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, shefy7@...

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> I will

> try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every meal and drink a

> cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any other tips?

>

Some of the statins have severe reactions to grapefruit. If he is on one make

sure it isn't one of those.

colleen

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He's not extrememly over on cholesterol???? Dr. says it should be 200

plus your age....or 256 in his case....

>From: " shefy7 " <shefy7@...>

>Reply-Dr

>Dr

>Subject: High Cholesterol-Anything to help reduce it....

>Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:38:03 -0000

>

>Hello all,

>

>My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the borderline of

>diabetes, but he has that under control now... His HDL is a bit high

>and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was normal. I'm trying to

>get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies and water, and

>exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are going to Sears

>tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex treadclimber. He is

>overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56). Anything to help

>get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but seriously I will

>try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every meal and drink a

>cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any other tips?

>

>I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't see much for these

>types of problems. I did look through the heart disease section...but

>he doesn't have serious problems like those listed. I think prevention

>is the key and I would like to help him lower is cholesterol even more.

>

>He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so I'm going to have

>to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this has any tips please

>let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try the kidney cleanse,

>he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get sick during mine.

>

>Thanks!

>Shefy

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Red Yeast Rice will help. My mother used it and got off synthetic drugs

High Cholesterol-Anything to help reduce it....

Hello all,

My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the borderline of

diabetes, but he has that under control now... His HDL is a bit high

and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was normal. I'm trying to

get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies and water, and

exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are going to Sears

tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex treadclimber. He is

overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56). Anything to help

get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but seriously I will

try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every meal and drink a

cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any other tips?

I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't see much for these

types of problems. I did look through the heart disease section...but

he doesn't have serious problems like those listed. I think prevention

is the key and I would like to help him lower is cholesterol even more.

He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so I'm going to have

to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this has any tips please

let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try the kidney cleanse,

he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get sick during mine.

Thanks!

Shefy

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Hi Shefy,

Sorry to hear about yoru father.

Improving the liver health is the first target in dealing with the

processing of fat out of the body and regulating cholesterol. To further

explore this beyond the excellent teaching of Dr. , I'd recommend Dr.

Cabot, M.D.'s books: " The Healthy LIVER Bowel Book " and " The Liver

Cleansing Diet " .

Her website is: www.liverdoctor.com

I don't know exactly why you had problems with the liver/gallstone flush,

but the liver flush is the most effective and quickest way to drastically

improve liver function. One flush is not enough either. Several flushes,

no less than 2 weeks apart, are required to get all the stones, chaff, and

stagnant bile out. Colon and parrasite cleansing are the best preparation

for the liver cleanse, since it clears the way for a liver flush to be

easier on you and more effective at getting more junk out of your liver and

gallbladder during each flush.

Your dad being skeptical and all would seem to indicate that you need to get

a grip on your own health situation so well that he's encouraged by your

success (instead of discouraged by your setbacks). The first step I'd

recommend is you try again to have a successful liver flush yourself by

preparing better to up the odds of success in your favor. Use Dr. 's

flush with the Epsom Salts and Grapefruit juice mixed with the oil. When

you have successful liver flushes and experience all the benefits you can

have more enthusiasm and energy for helping him. That increase in energy

and enthusiasm for natural cures is contagious in the best way :)

Best regards,

Vince

>From: " shefy7 " <shefy7@...>

>Reply-Dr

>Dr

>Subject: High Cholesterol-Anything to help reduce it....

>Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:38:03 -0000

>

>Hello all,

>

>My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the borderline of

>diabetes, but he has that under control now... His HDL is a bit high

>and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was normal. I'm trying to

>get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies and water, and

>exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are going to Sears

>tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex treadclimber. He is

>overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56). Anything to help

>get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but seriously I will

>try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every meal and drink a

>cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any other tips?

>

>I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't see much for these

>types of problems. I did look through the heart disease section...but

>he doesn't have serious problems like those listed. I think prevention

>is the key and I would like to help him lower is cholesterol even more.

>

>He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so I'm going to have

>to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this has any tips please

>let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try the kidney cleanse,

>he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get sick during mine.

>

>Thanks!

>Shefy

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I hate to tell you this, but the liver cleanse is exactly what he must

do to lower his cholesterol. First and foremost, cholesterol is not the

enemy. In fact, our livers even produce it and, without it, we would not be

alive as it is vital to living organisms. It is the liver's job to produce

and regulate cholesterol levels in the blood. When the liver is congested

and full of parasites, it becomes unable to handle all 400+ functions it is

designed to handle, so it goes for the most important functions, like

detoxification. When you flush the liver clean of stones and sludge, as

well as kill the parasites harboring inside both the liver and the stones

themselves, the liver is now able to fully regenerate and resume normal

function again including regulating healthy cholesterol levels. It may take

up to 30 flushes to achieve a total stone-free liver/gall bladder. It all

depends on the condition of the liver in question. However, each and every

flush will reveal more and more benefits including healthy skin, reduced to

eliminated allergies and food/chemical intolerances, overall digestion and

overall health, etc....

Now cholesterol becomes a problem when your arteries are scarred and/or

hardened (atherosclerosis or arteriosclerosis). This is caused by numerous

things such as parasites, chlorine, and trans fats. When you have scarred,

pitted arteries, it becomes easy for the sticky cholesterol to become lodged

thus allowing for more cholesterol to become attached to it until finally

total blockage occurs causing infarction (heart attack/stroke/tissue death).

Ken

-- High Cholesterol-Anything to help reduce it....

Hello all,

My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the borderline of

diabetes, but he has that under control now... His HDL is a bit high

and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was normal. I'm trying to

get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies and water, and

exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are going to Sears

tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex treadclimber. He is

overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56). Anything to help

get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but seriously I will

try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every meal and drink a

cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any other tips?

I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't see much for these

types of problems. I did look through the heart disease section...but

he doesn't have serious problems like those listed. I think prevention

is the key and I would like to help him lower is cholesterol even more.

He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so I'm going to have

to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this has any tips please

let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try the kidney cleanse,

he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get sick during mine.

Thanks!

Shefy

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Shefy, High choesterol is fine; read he Cholesterol Myths and The

Oiling Of America. In fact, lower cholesterol is worse than

higher.

" Research unveiled at last fall's meeting of the American Heart

Association revealed that a commonly prescribed " statin " drug for

lowering cholesterol might actually impair patients' brain

function, writes s II, MD, " ...even so

far as to affect their ability to perform everyday tasks, like

drive a car. The study pinpointed measurable decreases in

attention span and psychomotor reflex speed among the subject

group when compared to the un-medicated control group. ...Those

patients who experienced the greatest decreases in blood

cholesterol also suffered the greatest levels of impairment.

....What's not clear is whether the impairment is caused by the

drugs themselves - or the lack of cholesterol. Low cholesterol

levels have been linked to numerous other health issues directly

related to the brain - things like violent behavior, depression,

mood swings, stroke risk and other problems. " Hopes that statins

could reduce a person's risk of developing a number of cancers

have been shattered by two studies that showed no association

exists between the cholesterol-lowering drugs and cancer risk.

The Journal of the American Medical Association January 2006

published the results of (http://tinyurl.com/chysy) Dr.

White and colleagues from the University of Connecticut, who

carried out a meta-analysis of 27 trials involving almost 90,000

participants to investigate the purported benefit of statins for

cancer. " In no analysis could we find benefits (for statins) in

cancer, " said Dr White. A second study, reported in the Journal

of the National Cancer Institute (Jan 2006), found no association

between the use of cholesterol-lowering drugs, the majority of

which are statins, and colorectal cancer risk among over 130,000

people. " Our results do not support the hypothesis that statins,

as a class of drugs, strongly reduce the risk of colorectal

cancer, " write Dr s et al. (http://tinyurl.com/abxoe) This

contradicts findings from a recent study of 4000 people, which

showed that among individuals taking statins for five years or

more, the risk of developing colorectal cancer was reduced by

47%.

A study published in the American Journal of Epidemiology in Sept

2005 examined a suspected association between non-Hodgkin's

lymphoma and the use of common medications. Researchers found a

clear link between NHL risk and the use of antibiotics more than

10 times during adulthood. In addition, regular use of

nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs, such as aspirin,

ibuprofen and naproxen) was " marginally associated " with a higher

risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. (http://tinyurl.com/cf7g9)

" Regular aspirin-use preceding the onset of primary intracerebral

hemorrhage is an independent predictor for death "

(http://tinyurl.com/8f84o) reads the title of a study in Stroke

(Jan 2006). It shows that patients had a 2.5 increased relative

risk of dying in the first 3 months after a brain bleed compared

with nonusers of aspirin or warfarin. " We observed poor short-

term outcomes and increased mortality, probably attributable to

rapid enlargement of hematomas (bruising), in the subjects with

intracerebral hemorrhage (brain bleeding) who had been taking

regularly moderate doses of aspirin (median 250 mg) " wrote the

researchers. Stanley Tuhrim, MD of the Mount Sinai School of

Medicine in New York writes in a related editorial in the same

issue, titled, " Aspirin-use before ICH: a potentially treatable

iatrogenic coagulopathy? " (http://tinyurl.com/drjlb),

" (This)...provides added evidence that aspirin-use before ICH

(brain bleeding) is a risk factor for continued bleeding and

poorer outcome. "

> My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the borderline of

> diabetes, but he has that under control now... His HDL is a bit high

> and LDL a bit low.

> I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't see much for these

> types of problems. I did look through the heart disease section...but

> he doesn't have serious problems like those listed. I think prevention

> is the key and I would like to help him lower is cholesterol even

> more.

>

> He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so I'm going to have

> to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this has any tips please

> let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try the kidney cleanse,

> he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get sick during mine.

>

> Thanks!

> Shefy

>

Stress fom any source raises cholesterol. The biggest cause is

probably diet, second biggest probably toxin load, third,

probably malnutrition, then emotions and then electromagnetic

interference. Just my take on the relative aspects; most people

have more than one.

Duncan

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What many people do not know is high cholesterol is actually a

byproduct of high carbohydrate intake. The more straches, sweets,

fruits etc. that you eat in excess, the more prone you will be to

high cholesterol. The body needs to make excess cholesterol to help

harden cell membranes that have become too soft from excess sugars.

Ken is correct in saying that cholesterol is made in the body and

liver cleanses will clean out the junk. What he didn't mention is

the cause of the scarring and lesions in the arteries and that is

high sugar levels and high insulin levels from consuming sweets,

starches, excess fruits etc.

>

> I hate to tell you this, but the liver cleanse is exactly what

he must

> do to lower his cholesterol. First and foremost, cholesterol is

not the

> enemy. In fact, our livers even produce it and, without it, we

would not be

> alive as it is vital to living organisms. It is the liver's job

to produce

> and regulate cholesterol levels in the blood. When the liver is

congested

> and full of parasites, it becomes unable to handle all 400+

functions it is

> designed to handle, so it goes for the most important functions,

like

> detoxification. When you flush the liver clean of stones and

sludge, as

> well as kill the parasites harboring inside both the liver and the

stones

> themselves, the liver is now able to fully regenerate and resume

normal

> function again including regulating healthy cholesterol levels.

It may take

> up to 30 flushes to achieve a total stone-free liver/gall

bladder. It all

> depends on the condition of the liver in question. However, each

and every

> flush will reveal more and more benefits including healthy skin,

reduced to

> eliminated allergies and food/chemical intolerances, overall

digestion and

> overall health, etc....

> Now cholesterol becomes a problem when your arteries are

scarred and/or

> hardened (atherosclerosis or arteriosclerosis). This is caused by

numerous

> things such as parasites, chlorine, and trans fats. When you have

scarred,

> pitted arteries, it becomes easy for the sticky cholesterol to

become lodged

> thus allowing for more cholesterol to become attached to it until

finally

> total blockage occurs causing infarction (heart

attack/stroke/tissue death).

> Ken

>

>

> -- High Cholesterol-Anything to help reduce it....

>

> Hello all,

>

> My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the borderline of

> diabetes, but he has that under control now... His HDL is a bit

high

> and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was normal. I'm trying

to

> get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies and water, and

> exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are going to Sears

> tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex treadclimber. He

is

> overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56). Anything to

help

> get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but seriously I

will

> try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every meal and

drink a

> cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any other tips?

>

> I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't see much for

these

> types of problems. I did look through the heart disease

section...but

> he doesn't have serious problems like those listed. I think

prevention

> is the key and I would like to help him lower is cholesterol even

more.

>

> He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so I'm going to

have

> to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this has any tips

please

> let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try the kidney

cleanse,

> he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get sick during mine.

>

> Thanks!

> Shefy

>

>

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Well, I hate to say it....but s is

probably right ...you goota move and you have to put

your portions....

As for the cholesterol....have you read into

homocystiene research and it being a much better

indicator for potential attack or stroke (can't

remember which or both)? Try to get him to switch oils

too....no corn oil, etc.

--- shefy7 <shefy7@...> wrote:

> Hello all,

>

> My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the

> borderline of

> diabetes, but he has that under control now... His

> HDL is a bit high

> and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was

> normal. I'm trying to

> get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies

> and water, and

> exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are

> going to Sears

> tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex

> treadclimber. He is

> overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56).

> Anything to help

> get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but

> seriously I will

> try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every

> meal and drink a

> cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any

> other tips?

>

> I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't

> see much for these

> types of problems. I did look through the heart

> disease section...but

> he doesn't have serious problems like those listed.

> I think prevention

> is the key and I would like to help him lower is

> cholesterol even more.

>

> He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so

> I'm going to have

> to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this

> has any tips please

> let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try

> the kidney cleanse,

> he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get

> sick during mine.

>

> Thanks!

> Shefy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

XAN: " I knew. I saw I didn't know what I thought I knew. I gave up knowing for

not knowing with great relief. Through not knowing now I know. "

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I'd like to hear more about homocystine levels and heart disease if anyone has

any info. thanks

Idris Enoch <idrisenoch@...> wrote: Well, I hate to say it....but

s is

probably right ...you goota move and you have to put

your portions....

As for the cholesterol....have you read into

homocystiene research and it being a much better

indicator for potential attack or stroke (can't

remember which or both)? Try to get him to switch oils

too....no corn oil, etc.

--- shefy7 <shefy7@...> wrote:

> Hello all,

>

> My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the

> borderline of

> diabetes, but he has that under control now... His

> HDL is a bit high

> and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was

> normal. I'm trying to

> get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies

> and water, and

> exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are

> going to Sears

> tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex

> treadclimber. He is

> overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56).

> Anything to help

> get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but

> seriously I will

> try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every

> meal and drink a

> cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any

> other tips?

>

> I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't

> see much for these

> types of problems. I did look through the heart

> disease section...but

> he doesn't have serious problems like those listed.

> I think prevention

> is the key and I would like to help him lower is

> cholesterol even more.

>

> He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so

> I'm going to have

> to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this

> has any tips please

> let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try

> the kidney cleanse,

> he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get

> sick during mine.

>

> Thanks!

> Shefy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

XAN: " I knew. I saw I didn't know what I thought I knew. I gave up knowing for

not knowing with great relief. Through not knowing now I know. "

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On Homocysteine,

Homocysteine is an aberrant amino-acid resulting from a malfunction in the

handling of methionine

Its presence has been implicated in a number of ever-increasing conditions.

Originally, it was demonstrated the people with high concentrations of HC showed

a higher tendency toward strokes.Altough the mechanism of action is unknown, the

correlation is too strong to discard it.

Several newer studies have also shown the connection to heart attacks. For every

5 millimole/ml increase in HC the risk of heart attacks goes up 42%.

Further studies implicate it to cancer and Alzheimer's. Those with high HC

DOUBLE the risk.

There is also a stron connection to diabetes.

It is easy to lower HC levels by taking enough vitamins B6, B12,B2 Folic, Zinc

and Trimethyl Glycine a potent methylator.

Regards

Re: High Cholesterol-Anything to help reduce it....

I'd like to hear more about homocystine levels and heart disease if anyone has

any info. thanks

Idris Enoch <idrisenoch@...> wrote: Well, I hate to say it....but

s is

probably right ...you goota move and you have to put

your portions....

As for the cholesterol....have you read into

homocystiene research and it being a much better

indicator for potential attack or stroke (can't

remember which or both)? Try to get him to switch oils

too....no corn oil, etc.

--- shefy7 <shefy7@...> wrote:

> Hello all,

>

> My dad has high cholesterol (270). He was on the

> borderline of

> diabetes, but he has that under control now... His

> HDL is a bit high

> and LDL a bit low. Otherwise, his bloodwork was

> normal. I'm trying to

> get him to eat healthier, more fruits and veggies

> and water, and

> exercise more often, mainly cardio. In fact we are

> going to Sears

> tomorrow and I'm going to pick him up the bowflex

> treadclimber. He is

> overweight (he's 6ft and about 240lbs. and he's 56).

> Anything to help

> get rid of fat too? Ha..a magic pill maybe? No, but

> seriously I will

> try to get him to eat a little grapefruit with every

> meal and drink a

> cup of green tea with lemon in the morning. Any

> other tips?

>

> I was looking through Dr. 's list and I don't

> see much for these

> types of problems. I did look through the heart

> disease section...but

> he doesn't have serious problems like those listed.

> I think prevention

> is the key and I would like to help him lower is

> cholesterol even more.

>

> He's kind of skeptical on these " natural cures " so

> I'm going to have

> to convince him hard. If anyone who's reading this

> has any tips please

> let me know! I'm probably going to get him to try

> the kidney cleanse,

> he won't do the liver cleanse after he saw me get

> sick during mine.

>

> Thanks!

> Shefy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

XAN: " I knew. I saw I didn't know what I thought I knew. I gave up knowing for

not knowing with great relief. Through not knowing now I know. "

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