Rotating anti-fungals

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I read within the past 1-2 months, i thought on this list, of a man

talking about how he used an anti-fungal to ease his candida symptoms

(i guess without the diet modifications) and found 12months later

that the anti-fungal no longer worked and he had a bad recurrence of

candida symptoms. This frightens me and gives me good reason to

follow the diet for 3mos solid (at least). I've used oil of oregano

to help with symptoms, help to sleep, etc, but i've eased off for

now.

I appreciate the viewpoint that it's possible it's a myth about anti-

fungals needing rotation, but I want to be extra careful about being

unconcerned, because imagine the horrid possibility that those 1 or

2 really effective anti-fungals like oil of oregano won't bring

relief down the road, then what? i guess prescription medication

would be an option at that point.

What concerns me is that my last bout of a uti, it took all 7days of

taking cipro)i'm allergic to sulfa drugs)for my symptoms to abate,

whereas in my first bout 5-6 years ago when i took that drug(i had

my first uti's when I was 6), symptoms disappeared after the first

couple of pills. I was warned by a nurse practitioner and a doctor

that infections can become anti-biotic resistant (i now take 1

supercran(berry) pill by long's drugs every day no matter what

because i get urinary tract irritation from even taking a bath! I

read that's a candida symptom.)

The bacteria mutates and becomes increasingly aggressive (i was told

by a nurse you can build superbugs with antibiotics and even by

taking golden seal regularly) the more it's exposed to an

antibiotic, and it seems to follow logically that it's possible

candida could also get resistant to anti-fungals. I cook and drink

with garlic constantly and it helps alot, the enemas have helped me

alot, also. I've felt amazingly good for a day or two following a

liver toxin flush,though if i go off the diet even a little,

recurrence of symptoms...gotta follow the instructions with the

coffee enema.

I'm itching all over and have gas tonite because i ate some brown

rice chips today. I know I HAVE to follow the diet. I tried grass

fed beef a couple of days in a row this past week and felt crappy. I

feel much better on light protein like chicken turkey eggs. My

favorite recipe now, is saute garlic in cold pressed organic olive

oil, add bok choy, cauliflower, celery, broccoli, green onion, kale

along with basil and herbs de provence and organic vegetable broth

and celtic sea salt.

While being on this list gives me such hope, it's so important to

share our experience continually as we are in uncharted territory.

It's hard to completely give up all those old comfort foods, but

then again, it's such a gift to have to give sugar and flour up

because all it does is cause disease. It's like being forced to

really live! Thanks Bee--

[Guest guest]

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> I read within the past 1-2 months, i thought on this list, of a man

> talking about how he used an anti-fungal to ease his candida

symptoms (i guess without the diet modifications) and found 12months

later that the anti-fungal no longer worked and he had a bad

recurrence of candida symptoms. This frightens me and gives me good

reason to follow the diet for 3mos solid (at least).

==>Hi there. What is your name? That's great you've been reading

and learning. You may find that 3 months is not long enough

depending upon how long you've been sick. According to Hering's Law

of Cures it takes one month of natural healing for every year you've

been sick - the timing starts once you are completely following the

diet. Also, the main principles of my diet will keep you healthy and

fit for life.

> I've used oil of oregano to help with symptoms, help to sleep, etc,

but i've eased off for now. I appreciate the viewpoint that it's

possible it's a myth about anti-fungals needing rotation, but I want

to be extra careful about being unconcerned, because imagine the

horrid possibility that those 1 or 2 really effective anti-fungals

like oil of oregano won't bring relief down the road, then what? i

guess prescription medication would be an option at that point.

==>Perscription medicine is never a good option. The reason the

natural food antifungals don't need rotating is because they are more

natural to the body so no resistances are build up. That's why

people in some areas of the world that only have certain foods

available to them can eat them every day and still be healthy.

>

> What concerns me is that my last bout of a uti, it took all 7days

of taking cipro)i'm allergic to sulfa drugs)for my symptoms to abate,

> whereas in my first bout 5-6 years ago when i took that drug(i had

> my first uti's when I was 6), symptoms disappeared after the first

> couple of pills. I was warned by a nurse practitioner and a doctor

> that infections can become anti-biotic resistant (i now take 1

> supercran(berry) pill by long's drugs every day no matter what

> because i get urinary tract irritation from even taking a bath! I

> read that's a candida symptom.)

==>Yes, UTI is a candida symptom.

>

> The bacteria mutates and becomes increasingly aggressive (i was

told by a nurse you can build superbugs with antibiotics and even by

> taking golden seal regularly) the more it's exposed to an

> antibiotic, and it seems to follow logically that it's possible

> candida could also get resistant to anti-fungals.

==>Again, as I said above resistance does not happen with natural

whole foods like it does with medical drugs. In fact I do not

believe in the theory about superbugs being created because any and

all viruses, bacteria, etc. are always mutating, which is a natural

process. Read the articles on the Germ Theory of Disease.

==>The difference between drugs and natural whole foods or herbs is

that drugs force the body into a certain condition, and they also

very toxic to the body, while natural whole foods and herbs are given

to the body to utilize as it sees fit or get rid of as the case may

be. The body can throw off natural substances that it doesn't need

very easily, while it cannot throw off drugs. However, I do

recommend you go off all supplements, antifungals or probiotics one

day every two weeks. You could change you main antifungal about

every 8 months if you are really concerned.

>I cook and drink with garlic constantly and it helps alot, the

enemas have helped me alot, also. I've felt amazingly good for a day

or two following a liver toxin flush,though if i go off the diet even

a little, recurrence of symptoms...gotta follow the instructions with

the coffee enema.

>

> I'm itching all over and have gas tonite because i ate some brown

> rice chips today. I know I HAVE to follow the diet. I tried grass

> fed beef a couple of days in a row this past week and felt crappy.

==>Do remember that when your body gets the nutrients it needs, i.e.

grass fed beef it will create the same symptoms of healing as it will

in reaction to bad foods and toxins.

> I feel much better on light protein like chicken turkey eggs. My

> favorite recipe now, is saute garlic in cold pressed organic olive

> oil, add bok choy, cauliflower, celery, broccoli, green onion, kale

> along with basil and herbs de provence and organic vegetable broth

> and celtic sea salt.

==>Sounds great. But do ensure you are getting enough " good "

saturated fats from butter, coconut oil, lard, etc. There is less

fat in chicken and turkey than in red meats. Red meats also contain

very important nutrients your body requires.

> While being on this list gives me such hope, it's so important to

> share our experience continually as we are in uncharted territory.

> It's hard to completely give up all those old comfort foods, but

> then again, it's such a gift to have to give sugar and flour up

> because all it does is cause disease. It's like being forced to

> really live! Thanks Bee--

==>You are so welcome my friend. It's onward and upward!!

Hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

Is there a consensus on rotating antifungals? I know some folks who

rotate every 4 days, some every 4 weeks, etc. I don't want my

highly-allergic son to become sensitive to the naturals we're using

right now, and of course I don't want to enable the yeast to become

resistant either. Any thoughts on how best to rotate would be much

appreciated.

Also do any docs suggest rotating Rx antifungals? We've been on

Diflucan for a few months now. Although my doc makes us stop every

two weeks and take a break for a few days, which seems a little weird.

She says it's to prevent overstressing the liver.