Potty Training

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ann,

You can have her sit on the toilet while the bath water is running...that is

one of the things that helped with my son and then he realized what we were

trying to get him to do. Also, if you can have someone " demonstrate " . We

let him watch us go potty so that he could see urine going into the toilet.

Hard for ultra modest parents I know, but I know it really helped get

the full picture

Good luck!

Kym...mom to 5 including (9ds)

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i was fed up with pull up and diapers and all that stuff so when my son turned 4

i told myself i was not going to purchase anymore baby items i also had two year

old girl and i potty trained them both, it took almost a year of a little

dribble here and ther but my sois doing fine and his arms finally got long

enough to wipe his own bum at the age of seven. hope this helps sherri mom to

tayler almost 8 (ds) and cierra 6

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From: littlelollie@...

Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 4:26 AM

Subject: potty training

Hello everyone!!!

I am nne, We have 2 daughters, 8 and 6. has

DS and I was writing to you you guys to see if you can help me with

some advice.. No matter what I do I cant seem to potty train and

I am at my witts end. has been in pull ups for almost 8 months

now and katie will go in the bathroom, sit on the potty pull her pull

up down, sit on the potty and say Pee Pee but nothing. Then she wipes

and washes and is sooooo proud of herself.. The problem is that shes

been doing this for about 7 months and I cant seem to get anything out

of her...Iv tried a consistant day and time but it seems impossible..

Can anyone give me any suggestions? Thanks..

nne...

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Hi nne,

My way of thinking here is she doesn't understand what she is really meant

to do on the potty. Seeing as it is summertime on your side of the world, I

would be going with the cotton knickers (obviously plan a few days at home),

and see if the horrible feeling of pee down her leg may give her the idea of

what it is all about.

This all depends on the type of kid she is, my eldest daughter (non DS)

took 24hours to toilet train at the age of 2, she didn't like that wet

feeling whereas my younger daughter (also non DS) just couldn't care less -

so training took that bit longer.

The main thing is that you and her are both ready for the successes and

failures.

Keep smiling

Jan, mother of Trent 22yo w/DS from the LandDownUnder

Hello everyone!!!

I am nne, We have 2 daughters, 8 and 6. has

DS and I was writing to you you guys to see if you can help me with

some advice.. No matter what I do I cant seem to potty train and

I am at my witts end. has been in pull ups for almost 8 months

now and katie will go in the bathroom, sit on the potty pull her pull

up down, sit on the potty and say Pee Pee but nothing. Then she wipes

and washes and is sooooo proud of herself.. The problem is that shes

been doing this for about 7 months and I cant seem to get anything out

of her...Iv tried a consistant day and time but it seems impossible..

Can anyone give me any suggestions? Thanks..

nne...

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Some good ideas here

http://www.einstein-syndrome.com/development/potty_training_description.htm

Also, you didn't say if realizes when she is wetting her pullup.

If this is part of the problem try putting a pair or two of cotton

underwear under the pullup. That way she will feel the wetness without

puddles on the floor.

Hope

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that's what we use (Cottenelle) . Those new Kaboo (or whatever they are in

the green and purple container) were much too small and thin.

Di

Re: potty training

> Why don't you try those flushable wipes....... like Cottenelle or

> generic. They are wet, so maybe they will do a better job with the

> first wipe? It may just be that she's got a bit more poop left on her

> bum, which give her more to spread around, but I don't know how you'd

> communicate that... " are you really finished.... has all the poop fallen

> out? " or something like that. It's a hard concept to describe for any

> child, much less a child with developmental delays :-)

>

> I think I'd keep helping her like you are doing..... she'll get better

> as she gets older, and lots of typical kids still need/like help with

> this at this age. I think I'd get her clean, then have her give a try

> to so that she practices the motions, without having so much chance of

> making a mess.

>

> Good luck!

> , mom to (10), (8 DS), and Sammy (6)

>

> Ann Masch wrote:

>

>> My daughter Amelia (6) was potty trained at the age of 48 months. This

>> included through the night with cotton underpants. I cannot claim that

>> victory. She was in a typical pre school setting with three year olds.

>> I kept her in pull ups and one day the two teachers told me to send

>> her with about six pairs of cotton panties. I was shocked. Over the

>> course of a year it worked! I slid back into pullups a couple of times

>> only to have the teachers jump my case and ask me " do you want her

>> potty trained or not? " I learned alot from that experience about

>> having the expectation and patience that help Amelia be more like her

>> typical peers then unlike them. Having said that I too am sending out

>> an SOS. Amelia has yet to get the hang of wiping her bum. It winds up

>> on her legs and the wall where the TP hangs around 30% of the time.

>> Any tips on how to get her to focus on the task at hand? I do it for

>> her most of the time and that is part of the problem. Still any tips

>> would

>> be appreciated. I am so proud of her potty training but there is this

>> last hurdle. I guess I can answer my own question by allowing her to

>> make a mess in the course of learning to do the task. But it's just a

>> nasy process.

>>

>> " littlelollie@... <mailto:littlelollie%40sbcglobal.net> "

>> <littlelollie@... <mailto:littlelollie%40sbcglobal.net>>

>> wrote: Hello everyone!!!

>>

>> I am nne, We have 2 daughters, 8 and 6. has

>> DS and I was writing to you you guys to see if you can help me with

>> some advice.. No matter what I do I cant seem to potty train and

>> I am at my witts end. has been in pull ups for almost 8 months

>> now and katie will go in the bathroom, sit on the potty pull her pull

>> up down, sit on the potty and say Pee Pee but nothing. Then she wipes

>> and washes and is sooooo proud of herself.. The problem is that shes

>> been doing this for about 7 months and I cant seem to get anything out

>> of her...Iv tried a consistant day and time but it seems impossible..

>> Can anyone give me any suggestions? Thanks..

>> nne...

>>

>>

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Re: potty training

We discussed potty training with the behavioral psychologist at the

local DS clinic before starting. He said to have them sit on the

potty chair while we read a book, sang songs, etc. Basicly,

entertain them in the bathroom for 1/2 hour intervals at the time of

day they normally would potty. (Of course, we recorded the times of

day they were going in their diapers for a few days before starting

the potty training.)

Half an hour seems like a long time to wait. But, we only had to do

this 2 or 3 times before they happened to go. Once they realize

what the potty chair is for, it usually gets easier!

As for underwear or pull-ups, I think all of my children were easier

to potty train in underwear. Just because the pull-ups keep them

too dry. But, I wouldn't use underwear on a child that wasn't ready

for them. What a mess

Mom to Ben-17, Brendt-15, Blake & - Both 5 w/ DS

>

> Hello everyone!!!

>

> I am nne, We have 2 daughters, 8 and 6.

has

> DS and I was writing to you you guys to see if you can help me

with

> some advice.. No matter what I do I cant seem to potty train

and

> I am at my witts end. has been in pull ups for almost 8

months

> now and katie will go in the bathroom, sit on the potty pull her

pull

> up down, sit on the potty and say Pee Pee but nothing. Then she

wipes

> and washes and is sooooo proud of herself.. The problem is that

shes

> been doing this for about 7 months and I cant seem to get anything

out

> of her...Iv tried a consistant day and time but it seems

impossible..

> Can anyone give me any suggestions? Thanks..

> nne...

>

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I found that underwear is cheap, and sometimes for my own well-being, I

would just toss horrible poopy accident panties right into the outside

trash can :-) I didn't have to do it often (maybe a pack of panties in

her life, total), but it let's face it, bigger kids make bigger

messes......... it helped me to know that I was ready to chuck them out,

rather than try and clean them to wearable again!

I also found that enlisting all the beach towels we owned to cover

chairs that I didn't want to have to clean and Fabreeze was

helpful....... we looked a bit trashy for awhile :-), but since

wasn't one who cared two cents about being wet, she could

really soak a chair or the couch fast :-)

We also used Goodnights for sleeping for awhile after she was daytime

trained........ I needed a break before I started the sheet-washing

routing, and since it was a nigthtime thing, I don't think it hampered

her daytime training in the least.

Good luck, and you guys will get there!

, mom to (10), (8DS), and Sammy (6)

littlelollie@... wrote:

> Hello Everyone,

>

> I wanted to say thank you for all the responses and the pep talks. I

> will be working sooo hard on accomplishing this goal. I went to Target

> and got a bunch of underwear and am ready to start tomarrow... is

> a at a very stubborn stage in her life so wish us luck... One of us is

> winning( I only hope its me).Thanks again.. I will let you guys know

> how we make out..

> nne....

>

>

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How old is your daughter? Unfortuneately, mine is 8 1/2, and she's

still having a problem learning to stay dry. Sometimes she can do it,

other times, she can't. We just haven't figured her out yet.

Anyway, try putting her in regular underwear, and have her go first

thing (when she wakes up), and every 30-60 minutes thereafter. That

worked for a friend of mine (who also has a daughter with DS).

Good luck--and let us all know if your efforts are successful!

Heath

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Good luck and keep trying!! My son, , will be 9 on Saturday (where did

the time go???) and does relatively well with staying dry but we have little

success in staying clean -- knows what he is doing just can't get him to go

there!!

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From: Jheath160 <jheath160@...>

Date: 2006/08/10 Thu AM 08:36:35 CDT

Down Syndrome Treatment

Subject: Re: Potty Training

How old is your daughter? Unfortuneately, mine is 8 1/2, and she's

still having a problem learning to stay dry. Sometimes she can do it,

other times, she can't. We just haven't figured her out yet.

Anyway, try putting her in regular underwear, and have her go first

thing (when she wakes up), and every 30-60 minutes thereafter. That

worked for a friend of mine (who also has a daughter with DS).

Good luck--and let us all know if your efforts are successful!

Heath

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HI,

I don't know where you live but if you are close to chicago there is a seminar in November! Let me know and I will get the info to you. I lot of body awareness, signs for pee, poopp,potty are a great idea. Practice running back and forth to the potty. If not mm's how about a favorite toy or stickers?

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Carol P.

I apologize that I did not congrat in the first place. Im so glad that Amber is on the way to be toliet trained... Congrats!!!

kk

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YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!! WTG (ha) Amber!!!KathyR-------------- Original message ----------------------From: "Carol P." <iammamapie >> Amber just turned 4. I have read many success storys about kids training > around 2 or 3 so I just thought maybe she should be getting this after a year of > trying.> I had Amber in regular underwear all last week. She could have cared less if > she was wet or not. I actually let her stay wet to see if she would come to me > or not.> She gets to busy playing. Well, Last night we were watching a movie. She > said Poo - poo. So I took her to the bathroom thinking ok. I am going to > change a stinky kid. Again. And she hadn't gone yet. Actually poo-pooed and > tee-teed in the potty.> We have had many partys in the bathroom ... Hoping this would encourage her.> She had her baby doll on the potty last night . And cheered after her baby was > done.> Too Cute !! So I am hoping this is finally sinking in. > Amber still wakes up wet from sleeping at night. I use night time pull-ups> Thanks for your help. Carol P.

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we are in the western suburbs. How about you? Marcy

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Marcy, are you close to chicago?

--- rdavis900@... wrote:

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>

> HI,

> I don't know where you live but if you are close to

> chicago there is a

> seminar in November! Let me know and I will get the

> info to you. I lot of body

> awareness, signs for pee, poopp,potty are a great

> idea. Practice running back

> and forth to the potty. If not mm's how about a

> favorite toy or stickers?

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Carol -

I will definitely give this a try!! I would love to make peanut butter granola... yeah, stickers would be better, blowing bubbles, too. he LOVES them.. okay...alright. food is not good around here, cuz i have six years old and two years old along to feed for... not good for treats... but something like peanut butter granola would do... smile...

kk

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YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!! WTG (ha) Amber!!!KathyR-------------- Original message ----------------------From: "Carol P." <iammamapie >> Amber just turned 4. I have read many success storys about kids training > around 2 or 3 so I just thought maybe she should be getting this after a year of > trying.> I had Amber in regular underwear all last week. She could have cared less if > she was wet or not. I actually let her stay wet to see if she would come to me > or not.> She gets to busy playing. Well, Last night we were watching a movie. She > said Poo - poo. So I took her to the bathroom thinking ok. I am going to > change a stinky kid. Again. And she hadn't gone yet. Actually poo-pooed and > tee-teed in the potty.> We have had many partys in the bathroom ... Hoping this would encourage her.> She had her baby doll on the potty last night . And cheered after her baby was > done.> Too Cute !! So I am hoping this is finally sinking in. > Amber still wakes up wet from sleeping at night. I use night time pull-ups> Thanks for your help. Carol P.

Carol in IL

Mom to seven including , 6 with TOF, AVcanal, GERD, LS, Asthma, subglottal stenosis, chronic constipation ( cured now ) and DS.

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Wait, and read the 'Potty Training in a Day' book...then plan on spending a week doing the Potty Training in a Day method...a week at home, naked, and no plans to go anywhere.

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potty training

I am about to start potty training my almost three year old. She doesn't seem interested yet. Should I wait until she's more interested, or is there a way I can get her more interested? Also, I was wondering if there may be books for potty training a special neeeds child. I have no idea where to start. Any suggestions would be very helpful. Thanks,, in Oklahoma, mother to Ali, DS, our angel sent from Heaven

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I started my daughter around that age but it was after age 3 . some do good others do not. We were in the not. She is just now starting to get it at age 5. So we have been at it for a good while. She was not interested at first. Still has her moments. I babysit so she is around alot of other kids that have been potty trained and she has seen them all go potty and she has gone potty with them. All that fun stuff :-) Carol P.bwalke00 <bwalke00@...> wrote: I am about to start potty training my almost three year old. She doesn't seem interested yet. Should I wait until she's more interested, or is there a way I can get her more interested? Also, I was wondering if there may be books for potty training a special neeeds child. I have no idea where to start. Any suggestions would be very helpful. Thanks,, in Oklahoma, mother to Ali, DS, our angel sent from Heaven Carol P. AIM iammamapie Giga iammamapie

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Emma (now 5 1/2) was potty trained at 3 1/2. Emma will never tell me

when she has to urinate... mainly its because she doesn't want to

stop what she's doing. So I have to take her into the bathroom most

of the time to get her to go. If she gets mad at me for taking her

in, she can sit on the toliet for a long time holding her in her

urine. I often wondered about this. Is the sensation different for

her? I know if I gotta go, I gotta go. She will tell me when she has

to do a bm though. Hmmmmmmm.

Just thought I'd share my toliet experience with Emma in.

> The " Potty Traning in a Day " book is similar to the ABR

training. We read the book, listened to an ABR speaker, and then

waited until grandma was in town to do it. Grandma is in her 80's

and was the perfect person to PAY ATTENTION, have a comfy seat by the

bathroom to read and play games with my daughter, and remind her with

a gentle nudge to run to the potty any time an urge came. Within

about 3 days she was potty trained. She was 40 months. She doesn't

even wear pull-ups to sleep anymore! Before she got potty trained

she was telling me either before, during, or immediately after she

went in her diaper, so she was ready.

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Well, I can finally say that K-T (age 7) is potty-trained!! I

have taken it slowly, mostly because she did not seem at all interested

in it before. (she is the youngest of 9 kids) When she was younger

(Utah, pre-school), in her IEP I included dressing-up play, to help her

with the clothes issues. I wanted to make sure she could dress herself.

At home I would let her get dressed with my help, but I would back off

as needed. (mostly t-shirts and pull up pants)

Last year we moved twice (4 different schools, now in southern

california) , so I didn't feel with all the upheaval, that she needed to

work on the potty-training. She had been waking up most mornings

dry. For the last few years, I would have her sit on the potty as part

of getting dressed in the morning and evening before bed. Then last Dec.

she started a new school, and they worked on it, so we began to see the

difference at home. The school had set times that they would take the

kids. She was staying dry most of the day by March. We were still having

a problem with bm's, but she finally caught on with that. In May we

switched to regular undies, and sent a change of clothes with her to

school, but she never had to use them.

At the end of June we went to Sea World, Legoland and the Wild

Animal Park when my sister and her family came to visit. She had a few

accidents, it was hard timing potty runs with lines. So we just had to

head to the rest room once every hour to hour-and-a-half. Now I rarely

have to remind her, and I may stop the pull-ups at night soon. I am

still nervous when we will be in the car for awhile, and we have to sit

next to the end of the row at the movies, but she is doing very well!!

I wish that you all could have watched her last week after we

went clothes shopping for school. She had to do a " fashion show " for her

dad. Each top and pair of pants were modeled. ( I will be sewing her

some tops with buttons and jeans.) She is so ready for school, every day

she gets her backpack on. It doesn't help that her older sister has

already started at the high school. She has 12 more days!!!

in econdido,ca (mom to K-T!!)

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Now that my children are both finally (!!!!) potty-trained, I wish I could offer everyone some wonderful words of advice, some sure-fire suggestions, or something similar. As I look back on it, I don't see anything that I could have done differently to make it happen faster/sooner/easier.

Theresa (with DS) was getting close to 6 and I had tried all the standard methods. Finally, her school got sick of it (self-contained Kindy with 8 students, 1 teacher, and 1 aide to change lots of diapers). They hired a temporary one-on-one aide who was basically dedicated to getting Theresa potty-trained. After 6 weeks, Theresa was practically done. Now I only remind her if we're going out or if we're going on a long car ride. Her developmental specialist thought that she was older than usual because of a combination of sensory issues (can't tell when she needs to go) and control (I can't make Theresa go and she'll prove it).

("typical") was almost 4 before he was trained. It was only the threat of "you can't go to school if you're wearing pull-ups" that did it for him. He still has occasional accidents.

Recently, I found a great article about a boy with DS finally learning to use the bathroom: http://www.ndsccenter.org/resources/documents/toiletTraining.php

Even if it doesn't help, it's still a good read.

If anyone wants to know the gory details of our potty-training (mis)adventures, feel free to email me...

Good luck!!

Debbie I. (NJ)

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My question is when to really introduce it? We talk about going to

potty, sign it, she watches us...but she gives no indication for when

she's soiled her diaper. She was 3 in May.

?????

Angie

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Dana

Years ago, a creative child care provider had one of my sister's boys

sitting on the potty backward. I used this for both of our NT boys;

threw in a few cheerios or fruit loops for 'target practice'. They

had a good time and were potty trained in no time flat. It completely

avoided the fear of falling in. Both boys pottied this way until

school age.

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> Years ago, a creative child care provider had one of my sister's boys

> sitting on the potty backward. I used this for both of our NT boys;

> threw in a few cheerios or fruit loops for 'target practice'. They

> had a good time and were potty trained in no time flat.

I taught all three of my boys to pee standing up.

Dana

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Keep her on the potty, keep giving her her favorite thing to drink, eventually she will pee...when she is finished peeing, give her a reward...whatever her favorite thing is (my son ended up with about 15 Beanie Babies in 2 days) The keep her on the potty, give her salty snacks, more to drink so she has many successes in one day.

This takes a lot of time and effort, ZERO Clothing on the child and no leaving the bathroom. There is a book 'Potty Training in a Day' use it, but know it will take a week for our kids, stay home from work, stay naked for a week. And don't put her back in diapers...when she pees, she cleans herself up, even if it means a bath and she has to put her clothes in the washer (with help of course) and she has to wipe up the floor, etc. It's not fun to stop playing to go to the bathroom, but it's REALLY no fun to have to do all it takes to clean up!

By the way, she's a child 'with' Down syndrome, Haley's extra chromosome isn't the most important thing to describe her with. <smile>

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potty training

Hi group - My name is Terri and I have a 6 yr old granddaughter named Haley who is a Down child. We are trying to potty train and have run into a small problem.. Haley absolutely will not pee in anything but her diaper. She wakes up dry from overnight, will sit on the toilet for 20 minutes and not urinate. She insists on the diaper, then pees right away. We have tried a star chart, big girl panties, no underwear/diaper and it hasn't worked! Any ideas?

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I totally agree with . You need to draw a line in the sand and make up your mind that this is IT. It's pretty obvious she has control and can do this, so hold her to it. What would you do with a typical 6 year old who wanted to pee in their pants? No way would you tolerate that. Why are you tolerating it with Hayley? Kid with DS learn very early on to use other people's attitudes to their advantage. I *love* watching out smart the adults around her who believe her 'poor me I have DS act' . I also love watching the adults when I make do what I know she can. ;-)For those with younger children- I advocate that potty training should begin as soon as the child can sit up independently! It's so much easier to train them in the right way from the start

than to keep them in diapers for a long then try to convince them to do things a different way. Carol in IL AIM doihavtasay1 GigaTribe doihavtasayMom to seven including , 7 with TOF, AVcanal, GERD, LS, Asthma, subglottal stenosis, and DS.My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me. Join our Down Syndrome information group - Down Syndrome Treatment/ Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic----- Original Message ----From: McElwee <sandra.mcelwee@...>Down Syndrome Treatment Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:31:13 AMSubject: Re: potty training

Keep her on the potty, keep giving her her favorite thing to drink, eventually she will pee...when she is finished peeing, give her a reward...whatever her favorite thing is (my son ended up with about 15 Beanie Babies in 2 days) The keep her on the potty, give her salty snacks, more to drink so she has many successes in one day.

This takes a lot of time and effort, ZERO Clothing on the child and no leaving the bathroom. There is a book 'Potty Training in a Day' use it, but know it will take a week for our kids, stay home from work, stay naked for a week. And don't put her back in diapers...when she pees, she cleans herself up, even if it means a bath and she has to put her clothes in the washer (with help of course) and she has to wipe up the floor, etc. It's not fun to stop playing to go to the bathroom, but it's REALLY no fun to have to do all it takes to clean up!

By the way, she's a child 'with' Down syndrome, Haley's extra chromosome isn't the most important thing to describe her with. <smile>

, Mom to 13, DS, Southern CaliforniaTo succeed in life,you need three things:a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.~ Reba McIntyre

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Hi group - My name is Terri and I have a 6 yr old granddaughter named Haley who is a Down child. We are trying to potty train and have run into a small problem.. Haley absolutely will not pee in anything but her diaper. She wakes up dry from overnight, will sit on the toilet for 20 minutes and not urinate. She insists on the diaper, then pees right away. We have tried a star chart, big girl panties, no underwear/diaper and it hasn't worked! Any ideas?

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Terri, if she insists to pee in the diaper, it shows she can hold it, so, do as every one suggested - NO diaper, just knickers - and if she wets them, put her on the toilet anyway, and after that make her do the cleaning bit - floor, clothes, wash, plus what s OT suggested. Giver her juice, water, whatever every morning and time every time she pees. It will give you an idea of when she has to go. Than keep her sitting in the potty from that time on. Of course it is much harder to keep a 6 year old sitting, than a younger child, than, I couldnt agree more with Carol. The sooner, the better ! My daughter is 3.4 and we ve been trying seriously to take her diapers off from the begginning of the year. Another tip is consintence. One you take the diapers off, you take them off and say good bye to it. Of course, it is easier to say than to do... and it takes a lot of cleaning up to do. Good luck,Pat mum to , BrazilCarol

in IL <ps1272000@...> escreveu: I totally agree with . You need to draw a line in the sand and make up your mind that this is IT. It's pretty obvious she has control and can do this, so hold her to it. What would you do with a typical 6 year old who wanted to pee in their pants? No way would you tolerate that. Why are you tolerating it with Hayley? Kid with DS learn very early on to use other people's attitudes to their advantage. I *love* watching out

smart the adults around her who believe her 'poor me I have DS act' . I also love watching the adults when I make do what I know she can. ;-)For those with younger children- I advocate that potty training should begin as soon as the child can sit up independently! It's so much easier to train them in the right way from the start than to keep them in diapers for a long then try to convince them to do things a different way. Carol in IL AIM doihavtasay1 GigaTribe doihavtasayMom to seven including , 7 with TOF, AVcanal, GERD, LS, Asthma, subglottal stenosis, and DS.My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me. Join our Down Syndrome information group - Down Syndrome Treatment/ Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic----- Original Message ----From: McElwee <sandra.mcelwee>Down Syndrome Treatment Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:31:13 AMSubject: Re: potty training Keep her on the potty, keep giving her her favorite thing to drink, eventually she will pee...when she is finished peeing, give her a reward...whatever her favorite thing is (my son ended up with

about 15 Beanie Babies in 2 days) The keep her on the potty, give her salty snacks, more to drink so she has many successes in one day. This takes a lot of time and effort, ZERO Clothing on the child and no leaving the bathroom. There is a book 'Potty Training in a Day' use it, but know it will take a week for our kids, stay home from work, stay naked for a week. And don't put her back in diapers...when she pees, she cleans herself up, even if it means a bath and she has to put her clothes in the washer (with help of course) and she has to wipe up the floor, etc. It's not fun to stop playing to go to the bathroom, but it's REALLY no fun to have to do all it takes to clean up! By the way, she's a child 'with' Down syndrome, Haley's extra

chromosome isn't the most important thing to describe her with. <smile> , Mom to 13, DS, Southern CaliforniaTo succeed in life,you need three things:a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.~ Reba McIntyre Diagnosis Down Syndrome: A Site of Hope for New Parents or Parents with a Prenatal Diagnosishttp://www.leeworks .net/DDS/What to Say to Parents of a Child with a Diagnosishttp://www.leeworks .net/DDS/ speech.html [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] potty training Hi group - My name is Terri and I have a 6 yr old granddaughter named Haley who is a Down child. We are trying to potty train and have run into a small problem.. Haley absolutely will not pee in anything but her diaper. She wakes up dry from overnight, will sit on the toilet for 20 minutes and not urinate. She insists on the diaper, then pees right away. We have tried a star chart, big girl panties, no underwear/diaper and it hasn't worked! Any ideas? Looking for last minute

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