Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 I think its Christmas excitment...CB also is having a rough time, the change in schedule, the tree. Made the dumb mistake of marking the days off for CB , so he's climbing the walls. This year I let him do the tree ( bought unbreakables ) all by himself. He did a great job and was extemely careful, however about 30 minutes later he put me in the hallway, slammed the door and when I tried to come out he went after me. I started singing Santa Claus is comming to Town with emphasis on the good or Bad part LOL. He started mellowing.. CB's Granny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 Sounds like a perseveration gone bad. I'm sorry Karac had to go through it, and hope he's okay. Missy -----Original Message-----From: pkuenstler@... [mailto:pkuenstler@...] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:44 AMautism Subject: MeltdownsYesterday when Karac was outside dribbling a basketball with a therapist, he just out of the blue attacked his therapist and bit her finger. He also bit himself. He came in the house crying and acting like he was in pain. He went outside and sat on the swing crying as in pain while I cooked him some pizza. I asked him if he wanted aspirin and he said yes. He took the aspirin and in about 15 minutes was fine. He is on Geodon and Straterra. He has had a couple of little crying spells without the aggression before; I can't figure out what caused this or what to do about it. Anybody have any ideas? Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 Sounds like a perseveration gone bad. I'm sorry Karac had to go through it, and hope he's okay. Missy -----Original Message-----From: pkuenstler@... [mailto:pkuenstler@...] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:44 AMautism Subject: MeltdownsYesterday when Karac was outside dribbling a basketball with a therapist, he just out of the blue attacked his therapist and bit her finger. He also bit himself. He came in the house crying and acting like he was in pain. He went outside and sat on the swing crying as in pain while I cooked him some pizza. I asked him if he wanted aspirin and he said yes. He took the aspirin and in about 15 minutes was fine. He is on Geodon and Straterra. He has had a couple of little crying spells without the aggression before; I can't figure out what caused this or what to do about it. Anybody have any ideas? Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Missy, that's an interesting thought. Thanks. Karac had a great day yesterday which was a relief. Some days are "diamond, some days are stone." Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 CB's Granny you gave me a big laugh; I can just hear you singing Santa Claus is coming to town behind that closed door. Only a grandmother would be so clever!! Thanks for putting things in perspective. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Ours was just the opposite as Beth was growing up...all meltdowns happened at home, her " safe haven. " Social Anxiety, remember? I actually was grateful for that... Maralee >^..^< actually we have no meltdowns at home, they all occur at school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Be patient, and firm. Give no reaction, and no attention to these tanrums. It will take time but I have done it before, and it works. Screaming and kicking is boring, when nobody reacts.lbd410 <lbd410@...> wrote: My son is 3 and on the spectrum. He is beginning to react wildly to being told no or anything he doesn't agree with. These tantrums will last between 1 minute or up to 1 hour. What can I do. Redirecting doesn't work. Is this just the the age or because he is non verbaland that is the only way he can express himself. Could there be something else going on? I have never seen a child that can scream for thatlong or that high.Thanks,Lin__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I would love to help you. You can email me privately. It is absolutely a communication problem. -----Original Message-----From: autism [mailto:autism ]On Behalf Of lbd410Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:20 PMautism Subject: meltdownsMy son is 3 and on the spectrum. He is beginning to react wildly to being told no or anything he doesn't agree with. These tantrums will last between 1 minute or up to 1 hour. What can I do. Redirecting doesn't work. Is this just the the age or because he is non verbaland that is the only way he can express himself. Could there be something else going on? I have never seen a child that can scream for thatlong or that high.Thanks,Lin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I would strongly encourage you to work on a form of communication. You can use pictures, signs, word approximations, etc. This is the reason for the tantrums most likely. Have you tried any verbal behavior training? -----Original Message-----From: autism [mailto:autism ]On Behalf Of lbd410Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:20 PMautism Subject: meltdownsMy son is 3 and on the spectrum. He is beginning to react wildly to being told no or anything he doesn't agree with. These tantrums will last between 1 minute or up to 1 hour. What can I do. Redirecting doesn't work. Is this just the the age or because he is non verbaland that is the only way he can express himself. Could there be something else going on? I have never seen a child that can scream for thatlong or that high.Thanks,Lin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Then you havent met my son Colin..I thought he was the only child who could scream that loud and for that long. Colin is 5. Redirecting him sometimes does not work..but what I have found works sometimes is to roll him up in a sheet,blanket,what ever you can get to at the moment and hold him really close and tight..and please lay in him the floor or bed dont try to hold him in your lap...I dont know why but is seems to calm him. Colin also gets like this when he has to poop and cant or if he is getting sick..or is sick. I also found that just ignoring and not making any eye contact or saying anything to him works pretty well. I dont think there is a magic cure I wish there were. Good Luck Deborah mom to Colin in Rockmart Ga > > From: " lbd410 " <lbd410@...> > Date: 2005/04/28 Thu PM 07:20:29 GMT > autism > Subject: meltdowns > > My son is 3 and on the spectrum. He is beginning to react wildly to being told no or anything he doesn't agree with. These tantrums will last between 1 minute or up to 1 hour. What can I do. Redirecting doesn't work. Is this just the the age or because he is non verbal and that is the only way he can express himself. Could there be something else going on? I have never seen a child that can scream for that long or that high. Thanks, Lin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Thought I would add this too. I found this lady on Ebay who makes daily schedules for autism kids. There are like 100 -150 different pictures for you to add to you daily schedule, Every thing is on plastic with velcro she even has Mcs added. This may help..as far as his communication .If you like I will see if I still have her email addy and I can pass it along to you, it was really very inexpensive. > > From: " lbd410 " <lbd410@...> > Date: 2005/04/28 Thu PM 07:20:29 GMT > autism > Subject: meltdowns > > My son is 3 and on the spectrum. He is beginning to react wildly to being told no or anything he doesn't agree with. These tantrums will last between 1 minute or up to 1 hour. What can I do. Redirecting doesn't work. Is this just the the age or because he is non verbal and that is the only way he can express himself. Could there be something else going on? I have never seen a child that can scream for that long or that high. Thanks, Lin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 ----- Original Message ----- From: Priscilla Tan ===>Try adrenal cortex. And some natural consequences, meaning never give in to what he melts down about, along with ignoring it when you can. If he does it only when you're out, only go out when you have someone to come and pick him up and take him home. Some of this is physical, some behavioral and it requires careful consideration to figure out what is what. You don't want to hold him responsible for what he cannot help, but you don't want him not to control his behavior, if he can. Hi, Any tips on how to handle meltdowns? ds is already 4+, growing stronger by the month, am afraid won't have the strength to lift and go when he grows too strong for me. Will chelation reduce this kind of behaviour? tks -- Priscilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 > > Hi, > Any tips on how to handle meltdowns? ds is already 4+, growing stronger by > the month, am afraid won't have the strength to lift and go when he grows > too strong for me. What worked with my youngest at about that age: I would sit down on the floor next to him when he had a tantrum and patiently wait. At some point, I would ask " Are you done? Can we go now? " Most of the time I was able to ask at the right time and get a " Yes " . I later learned that most of his tantrums were due to the fact that he is flat-footed and his feet would start hurting after doing too much walking. After that, I arranged our lives where he didn't get put in that situation so often. Once the root problem was resolved, the tantrums disappeared because I had never made it a power struggle -- I hadn't punished him, I hadn't rewarded him, etc. Good luck with this. Michele http://www.healthgazelle.com http://www.kidslikemine.com http://www.solanorail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Broken record moment ...epsom salt baths help immensely (magnesium needs), coconut oil rubdowns...and yes, chelation has helped here. elizabeth > > Hi, > Any tips on how to handle meltdowns? ds is already 4+, growing stronger by > the month, am afraid won't have the strength to lift and go when he grows > too strong for me. > Will chelation reduce this kind of behaviour? > > tks > > -- > Priscilla > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Is giving epsom salt bath providing a good source of magnesium to a child? I don't give him any Mg supplement since he is prone to loose stool. On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:57 PM, eli8591 <eli8591@...> wrote: > > > Broken record moment ...epsom salt baths help immensely (magnesium > needs), coconut oil rubdowns...and yes, chelation has helped here. > > elizabeth > > > > > > > Hi, > > Any tips on how to handle meltdowns? ds is already 4+, growing stronger > by > > the month, am afraid won't have the strength to lift and go when he grows > > too strong for me. > > Will chelation reduce this kind of behaviour? > > > > tks > > > > -- > > Priscilla > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Magnesium Oxide is supposed to have firming effect on BMs. Kirkman's has a hypoallergenic formula you could try: http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/ViewProductDetails@Product_ID123 (DOT) aspx > > > > > > Hi, > > > Any tips on how to handle meltdowns? ds is already 4+, growing stronger > > by > > > the month, am afraid won't have the strength to lift and go when he grows > > > too strong for me. > > > Will chelation reduce this kind of behaviour? > > > > > > tks > > > > > > -- > > > Priscilla > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 > > What is adrenal cortex? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Priscilla Tan > > ===>Try adrenal cortex. And some natural consequences, meaning never give in to what he melts down about, along with ignoring it when you can. > > If he does it only when you're out, only go out when you have someone to come and pick him up and take him home. > > Some of this is physical, some behavioral and it requires careful consideration to figure out what is what. You don't want to hold him responsible for what he cannot help, but you don't want him not to control his behavior, if he can. > > > > > > > > Hi, > Any tips on how to handle meltdowns? ds is already 4+, growing stronger by > the month, am afraid won't have the strength to lift and go when he grows > too strong for me. > Will chelation reduce this kind of behaviour? > > tks > > -- > Priscilla > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 What is adrenal cortex? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Priscilla Tan > > ===>Try adrenal cortex. And some natural consequences, meaning never give in to what he melts down about, along with ignoring it when you can. > > If he does it only when you're out, only go out when you have someone to come and pick him up and take him home. > > Some of this is physical, some behavioral and it requires careful consideration to figure out what is what. You don't want to hold him responsible for what he cannot help, but you don't want him not to control his behavior, if he can. > > > > > > > > Hi, > Any tips on how to handle meltdowns? ds is already 4+, growing stronger by > the month, am afraid won't have the strength to lift and go when he grows > too strong for me. > Will chelation reduce this kind of behaviour? > > tks > > -- > Priscilla > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 ----- Original Message ----- From: kellynocchi ===>Nutricology Adrenal Cortex Extract, is a glandular product that helps kids/people with stressed adrenals, often the cause of meltdowns. > > What is adrenal cortex? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Priscilla Tan > > ===>Try adrenal cortex. And some natural consequences, meaning never give in to what he melts down about, along with ignoring it when you can. > > If he does it only when you're out, only go out when you have someone to come and pick him up and take him home. > > Some of this is physical, some behavioral and it requires careful consideration to figure out what is what. You don't want to hold him responsible for what he cannot help, but you don't want him not to control his behavior, if he can. > > > > > > > > Hi, > Any tips on how to handle meltdowns? ds is already 4+, growing stronger by > the month, am afraid won't have the strength to lift and go when he grows > too strong for me. > Will chelation reduce this kind of behaviour? > > tks > > -- > Priscilla > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 > > > > What is adrenal cortex? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Priscilla Tan > > > > ===>Try adrenal cortex. And some natural consequences, meaning never give in to what he melts down about, along with ignoring it when you can. > > > > If he does it only when you're out, only go out when you have someone to come and pick him up and take him home. > > > > Some of this is physical, some behavioral and it requires careful consideration to figure out what is what. You don't want to hold him responsible for what he cannot help, but you don't want him not to control his behavior, if he can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > Any tips on how to handle meltdowns? ds is already 4+, growing stronger by > > the month, am afraid won't have the strength to lift and go when he grows > > too strong for me. > > Will chelation reduce this kind of behaviour? > > > > tks > > > > -- > > Priscilla > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 With my son, I usually know how to calm his rages because I know his triggers. He never has the meltdowns he has at school at home, he's very oppositional, but he wouldn't ever hit me or throw things at home. I tell the teachers the triggers, but they don't have the resources to give him the attention he needs all day. My son's biggest thing is 'everyone hates me' or 'everyone wants to kill me' when he says that the teachers don't understand, they don't catch the small things other students do to pick at my son, they just assume he's being dramatic. Its like pulling teeth to get them to listen to me. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Roxanna Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:02:10 -0400< >Subject: Re: ( ) Re: meltdowns Request a " FBA " (Functional Behavior Assessment). This will figure out why he is raging and hitting and figure out a Behavior plan to deal with each reason.  Roxanna " The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. " E. Burke ( ) Re: meltdowns Hi! I have a 6 year old boy who we found out last year has AS. We have been doing ok but we have had major problems recently with his rages in school. He has been back to school for 1 month now but last week he got into his rages 3 times and hit 2 different kids. Does anyone have any suggests to help with his meltdowns at school? 0D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Hi, I'm new to this site, my stepson is 17, and is having some bad meltdowns these days...Right now he just started Strattera and Prozac, but does anyone know what might work acutely to calm him down? Like Ativan? He's too big to wrestle with... Thanks for your suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 okay Lois - I missed something what's going on with Jake's neck? I would do a social story for JJ about hospitals and that it will make Daddy better and he will be home soon. Sharon - please don't let JJ hurt youAutism is not a burden it's a God given blessing. From: lois noland <jlois@...>Subject: Re: Re: Meltdownsautism Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 8:50 PM  Pat, Jake is going in for his neck surgery tomorow. He has to spend the night......I hope J will make it ok until he gets home. Lois Re: Meltdowns I noticed my son is sleeping later in the morning also - and is definitely showing signs of puberty (hair under the arms already!). How do you know the difference between the puberty meltdown and the autism meltdown? > >> > Hello Everyone,> > I have an non-verbal autistic son who just turned 13 in May. For the most part, my son is usually happy and cooperative (at home and at school); however for the last two months he has had more "meltdowns" than I can ever remember. He gets upset more easily and he sometimes has two a day - which just wears me out! Especially since he's getting stronger and heavier. It seems that most of his meltdowns occur in "familiar" places such as home, school or at the store but as we all know, once they get upset - it's like a torando in that you can only ride it out. I've been keeping a log on the behaviors and will make a note when I know what I think triggers them, but they usually occur when he can't wait for a desired item or something that he thinks or wants to happen does not occur. When he has them at home, he completely undresses himself, pulls his hair, yells and kicks his chins with the bottom of his heels - sometimes I wonder what the neighbors think> (but luckily most of them know we have a son with a disability). Anyways, with the sudden change in his behavior, does anyone think it could be caused by "hormones"/Puberty" ?? He does have seizures (mostly at night) and he sees a neurologist regularly for them, so I'm just not sure what is going on.....He also has a behaviorist at school that I will be bringing this up with at his IEP meeting. It makes me not want to take him anywhere for fear of it happening in public! Thanks for reading my post....> > > > Debbie> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010  Sharon, Jake's disk wore down and he had to get if fixed. He was in a lot of pain. They went thru his neck and took a piece of his bone from his hip. JJ did ok and I took him to see Jake. He came home today and is doing pretty good............Trying to do to much tho! haha! "Hard headed man"! Lois Re: Meltdowns I noticed my son is sleeping later in the morning also - and is definitely showing signs of puberty (hair under the arms already!). How do you know the difference between the puberty meltdown and the autism meltdown? > >> > Hello Everyone,> > I have an non-verbal autistic son who just turned 13 in May. For the most part, my son is usually happy and cooperative (at home and at school); however for the last two months he has had more "meltdowns" than I can ever remember. He gets upset more easily and he sometimes has two a day - which just wears me out! Especially since he's getting stronger and heavier. It seems that most of his meltdowns occur in "familiar" places such as home, school or at the store but as we all know, once they get upset - it's like a torando in that you can only ride it out. I've been keeping a log on the behaviors and will make a note when I know what I think triggers them, but they usually occur when he can't wait for a desired item or something that he thinks or wants to happen does not occur. When he has them at home, he completely undresses himself, pulls his hair, yells and kicks his chins with the bottom of his heels - sometimes I wonder what the neighbors think> (but luckily most of them know we have a son with a disability). Anyways, with the sudden change in his behavior, does anyone think it could be caused by "hormones"/Puberty" ?? He does have seizures (mostly at night) and he sees a neurologist regularly for them, so I'm just not sure what is going on.....He also has a behaviorist at school that I will be bringing this up with at his IEP meeting. It makes me not want to take him anywhere for fear of it happening in public! Thanks for reading my post....> > > > Debbie> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 That was interesting; thanks for sharing. Karac has safe spots at my house and at home; I don't know about at school. I'll suggest it to my DIL. Pat K Meltdowns I came across this short video that talks about an idea to address meltdowns. My son's school is doing something like this but it's not working too well. Now that I've watched the video I think I may know why. Hopefully this may help them. Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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